Churchgoers’ ignorance (From Warrington Guardian)
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Churchgoers’ ignorance
11:31am Thursday 6th December 2012 in Letters
WE who live on The Crescent in Lymm are blessed every week by the presence of kindly churchgoers who frequent the Baptist church on Higher Lane.
Residents are treated to a spectacular display of fine automobiles and designer clothes as the Godfearing of our society glide past our humble homes on their way to church.
We do not mind that their cars block our driveways and pavements because they are our betters and we are grateful that their goodness brings a little light into our lives.
We especially appreciate the manner in which our social superiors park on both sides of the narrow road and benevolently leave a two foot gap so that God’s gentle rain can run unhindered along the gutter.
This of course would cause the residents some problems in getting in and out of The Crescent but the Baptists have thought of this and considerately block in our cars so we cannot move them anyway.
A local peasant did have the tenacity to ask one of the nobles if he might move his car and was told that he was late for the service and as an upstanding member of the community he could park his car anywhere he likes.
We who live on The Crescent look forward to this weekly display of opulence and think ourselves lucky that the God fearing members of the Baptist church have specifically chosen us for their well meaning abuse.
PAUL THOMASON
Lymm
Comments(55)
steven46
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12:12pm Thu 6 Dec 12
Pauline McEwan
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12:17pm Thu 6 Dec 12
steven46 wrote:Unfortunately if the drive is empty you can park in front of it. I agree with your comment about parking their cars on the road the night before but if it was nicked and the insurance was that it was parked in a drive then it wouldn't be covered. Insurance companies will do everything to avoid paying out.
But what if the drive was empty because the home owners were out Pauline? If I were you Paul i would get all the residents of The Crescent to park their cars on the road on a Sunday morning, therefore leaving the members of the church going community nowhere to park
If they were up early enough (not sure what time these people are going to church as there are different services) then they could then move the cars on to the street.
MikeJT
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12:35pm Thu 6 Dec 12
Pauline McEwan wrote:Pauline....the question about the location of a vehicle at night is where is it USUALLY parked so the insurance company would not be able to use that get-out (although I recognise parking in the morning would be a better option).
steven46 wrote:Unfortunately if the drive is empty you can park in front of it. I agree with your comment about parking their cars on the road the night before but if it was nicked and the insurance was that it was parked in a drive then it wouldn't be covered. Insurance companies will do everything to avoid paying out.
But what if the drive was empty because the home owners were out Pauline? If I were you Paul i would get all the residents of The Crescent to park their cars on the road on a Sunday morning, therefore leaving the members of the church going community nowhere to park
If they were up early enough (not sure what time these people are going to church as there are different services) then they could then move the cars on to the street.
The law regarding access to driveways is a very grey area. Ask a dozen police officers and you will probably get at least 5 different interpretations. The only thing they would agree on is that if the highway is blocked in such a way as to make it dangerous then a traffic offense IS being committed.
The other option that COULD be used is that if a person consistently parks in such a way which is legal BUT which can be seen as unreasonable/antagon
istic then police may be able to do something as its an action whist is liable to cause a breach of the peach.
First things would be to speak to your local community police officer.
HappyMisery
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3:01pm Thu 6 Dec 12
MikeJT wrote:Why not send the local kids out when they start parking to ask "Watch your car mister?"
Pauline McEwan wrote:Pauline....the question about the location of a vehicle at night is where is it USUALLY parked so the insurance company would not be able to use that get-out (although I recognise parking in the morning would be a better option).
steven46 wrote:Unfortunately if the drive is empty you can park in front of it. I agree with your comment about parking their cars on the road the night before but if it was nicked and the insurance was that it was parked in a drive then it wouldn't be covered. Insurance companies will do everything to avoid paying out.
But what if the drive was empty because the home owners were out Pauline? If I were you Paul i would get all the residents of The Crescent to park their cars on the road on a Sunday morning, therefore leaving the members of the church going community nowhere to park
If they were up early enough (not sure what time these people are going to church as there are different services) then they could then move the cars on to the street.
The law regarding access to driveways is a very grey area. Ask a dozen police officers and you will probably get at least 5 different interpretations. The only thing they would agree on is that if the highway is blocked in such a way as to make it dangerous then a traffic offense IS being committed.
The other option that COULD be used is that if a person consistently parks in such a way which is legal BUT which can be seen as unreasonable/antagon
istic then police may be able to do something as its an action whist is liable to cause a breach of the peach.
First things would be to speak to your local community police officer.
You'll be amazed how many of these people will suddenly find elsewhere to park.
HappyMisery
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3:05pm Thu 6 Dec 12
Or call the fire brigade and explain the situation when it happens again. If an engine can't navigate through the gap, anyone causing an obstruction are breaking the law and all can be prosecuted.
The Maestro
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12:16am Fri 7 Dec 12
Boomhower
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10:03am Fri 7 Dec 12
Just make your point about not being happy with the parking instead of making a big thing of other peoples beliefs......unless you really do think they are superior and better than you in which case I apologise.
Nick Tessla
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11:00am Fri 7 Dec 12
old-codger
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12:23pm Fri 7 Dec 12
Melonfish
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1:59pm Fri 7 Dec 12
if this meets with no change THEN feel free to go mental ;)
Cheap Mower
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3:38pm Fri 7 Dec 12
comedymeister
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3:59pm Fri 7 Dec 12
http://www.allpark.c
o.uk/traffic-cones.h
tml
My son plays football and when we go to Appleton the neighbours put these out. Problem SOLVED. Hope you get it sorted.
the dr who
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9:52am Sat 8 Dec 12
comedymeister wrote:i think you will find that it makes no differance in price of your insurance if its parked in a garage or on a drive or out of it,
Paul, you need to get your neighbours together and club in for these...
http://www.allpark.c
o.uk/traffic-cones.h
tml
My son plays football and when we go to Appleton the neighbours put these out. Problem SOLVED. Hope you get it sorted.
i called my insurance and told them i am now putting my car in a garage and they said it wont lower your premium, so i told them to leave it as it was then as i will then decide if i put it away or not.
thats what they told me besides that i doubt they could prove you had just taken it out to go out at any time of the day or night.
the dr who
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9:56am Sat 8 Dec 12
comedymeister wrote:another great comment from people who think they own the world because they have a bit of money,
Paul, you need to get your neighbours together and club in for these...
http://www.allpark.c
o.uk/traffic-cones.h
tml
My son plays football and when we go to Appleton the neighbours put these out. Problem SOLVED. Hope you get it sorted.
if you put anything in the highway you become responsible for any damage or injury you cause, you need to have a permit from Warrington BC highways to install traffic cones. you also then need to put road signs out to warn of the obstruction IE the cones.
i would drive over them if i wanted to park there they mean nothing to anyone only you
comedymeister
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11:39am Sat 8 Dec 12
the dr who wrote:Are you actually wearing one, wait, no, it's a dunce cap!
comedymeister wrote:another great comment from people who think they own the world because they have a bit of money,
Paul, you need to get your neighbours together and club in for these...
http://www.allpark.c
o.uk/traffic-cones.h
tml
My son plays football and when we go to Appleton the neighbours put these out. Problem SOLVED. Hope you get it sorted.
if you put anything in the highway you become responsible for any damage or injury you cause, you need to have a permit from Warrington BC highways to install traffic cones. you also then need to put road signs out to warn of the obstruction IE the cones.
i would drive over them if i wanted to park there they mean nothing to anyone only you
SickAndTired2
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6:09pm Sat 8 Dec 12
the dr who wrote:And that just typifies the selfish, arrogant attitude of self important people like you that have spread like a disease in this town.
comedymeister wrote:another great comment from people who think they own the world because they have a bit of money,
Paul, you need to get your neighbours together and club in for these...
http://www.allpark.c
o.uk/traffic-cones.h
tml
My son plays football and when we go to Appleton the neighbours put these out. Problem SOLVED. Hope you get it sorted.
if you put anything in the highway you become responsible for any damage or injury you cause, you need to have a permit from Warrington BC highways to install traffic cones. you also then need to put road signs out to warn of the obstruction IE the cones.
i would drive over them if i wanted to park there they mean nothing to anyone only you
Sameoldsameold
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6:24pm Sat 8 Dec 12
the dr who
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6:50pm Sat 8 Dec 12
SickAndTired2 wrote:your right i agree its selfish to try and stop people parking on the highway i am glad you told them saves me doing it
the dr who wrote:And that just typifies the selfish, arrogant attitude of self important people like you that have spread like a disease in this town.
comedymeister wrote:another great comment from people who think they own the world because they have a bit of money,
Paul, you need to get your neighbours together and club in for these...
http://www.allpark.c
o.uk/traffic-cones.h
tml
My son plays football and when we go to Appleton the neighbours put these out. Problem SOLVED. Hope you get it sorted.
if you put anything in the highway you become responsible for any damage or injury you cause, you need to have a permit from Warrington BC highways to install traffic cones. you also then need to put road signs out to warn of the obstruction IE the cones.
i would drive over them if i wanted to park there they mean nothing to anyone only you
comedymeister
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6:55pm Sat 8 Dec 12
There are 3 options here people..
1. Put up
2. Shut up
3. Get it sorted!
the dr who
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6:59pm Sat 8 Dec 12
comedymeister
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7:01pm Sat 8 Dec 12
the dr who
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7:23pm Sat 8 Dec 12
JoeyLad
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6:11am Sun 9 Dec 12
comedymeister
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10:57am Sun 9 Dec 12
the dr who wrote:Go do some self treatment Dr!
BUT WHERE WILL SHE PARK WHEN SHE GETS BACK.
the dr who
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11:32am Sun 9 Dec 12
comedymeister
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11:34am Sun 9 Dec 12
the dr who
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11:39am Sun 9 Dec 12
as a church goer i always turn the other cheek
comedymeister
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11:44am Sun 9 Dec 12
The Maestro
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9:20pm Sun 9 Dec 12
the dr who
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10:12pm Sun 9 Dec 12
choperado wrote:Ah criminal damage, thats a good idea damage a car and then call the police thats great thinking, i dont know what car you drive but dog **** on the outside of a car wont smell inside.
All put your bins out or chuck dog poo on the windscreens and the stench on the way home will remind them of their selfish misdeeds.
Maybe check the Tyre depth and call the cops as necessary, it's your public duty. It may save a life!
old-codger
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10:14pm Sun 9 Dec 12
the dr who
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10:16pm Sun 9 Dec 12
old-codger
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10:20pm Sun 9 Dec 12
old-codger
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10:35pm Sun 9 Dec 12
comedymeister
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10:59pm Sun 9 Dec 12
Old Lob
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12:28pm Mon 10 Dec 12
I have no such misgivings and I am happy to shout SHAME ON THE BAPTISTS for being so thoughtless.
I would love to hear Paul’s comments on other local matters as I would bet that they are just as insightful and far better than the bland commentary that we get from the local press these days.
the dr who
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5:48pm Mon 10 Dec 12
old-codger wrote:and your one who is also making comments that are not really related to the problem, like you like the dog poo idea.
We are disgusing car,s I think, Inconsiderate parking is the subject, Some of us are making light of the subject and its not to be taken seriously, The Lord will provide for these Churchgoers so not to worry..
old-codger says...
10:14pm Sun 9 Dec 12
I like the dog poo idea, It doesnt damage any vehicles and it reeks of revenge...”
had you forgot your comments
runway
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6:30pm Mon 10 Dec 12
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/34271
not started by me but worth supporting i think
runway
says...
6:31pm Mon 10 Dec 12
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/34271
not started by me but worth supporting i think
old-codger
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9:11pm Mon 10 Dec 12
I like the dog poo idea, It doesnt damage any vehicles and it reeks of revenge...
I also said and I quote
Some of us are making light of the subject and its not to be taken seriously, The Lord will provide for these Churchgoers so not to worry..”
You need to lighten up before you have a stroke,,
Doctors orders..
old-codger
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9:39pm Mon 10 Dec 12
dog poo -- reeks,
I'm not saying it's cold outside, but I've just tripped over some dog s**t.”,
as a church goer i always turn the other cheek,
People making light of it..
Inc you,
Old Lob
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8:15am Tue 11 Dec 12
I was stuck there for 10 minutes yesterday when a wagon couldn’t get through and I only wish that I had Paul’s gift with words so that I could write some cutting comments about our so called caring civic leaders who are more interested in making money from the existing car parks rather than sort out the parking problem.
the dr who
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8:31am Tue 11 Dec 12
Old Lob wrote:runway, you have at least cleared up that it is not against the law and that although a real pain in the backside, calling the police would make no differance. no laws have been broken so polititions cant do anything
A few people are loosing sight of Paul’s original comments and turning this thread into a tit for tat argument. To bring this discussion back to topic I wonder how many other people suffer from ignorant car parking, for example I know that Lymm suffers from daily parking problems on Brookfield Road and that the local council or politicians don’t seem to be bothered about the chaos this causes.
I was stuck there for 10 minutes yesterday when a wagon couldn’t get through and I only wish that I had Paul’s gift with words so that I could write some cutting comments about our so called caring civic leaders who are more interested in making money from the existing car parks rather than sort out the parking problem.
but the petition only has 24 signers so it doesnt have much of a chance.
CHADWICK
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11:17am Tue 11 Dec 12
choperado
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1:31pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Wellshot
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1:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Wellshot
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1:50pm Wed 12 Dec 12
old-codger
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4:06pm Wed 12 Dec 12
the dr who
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6:24pm Wed 12 Dec 12
choperado wrote:I don't know what kind of dump you drive but when I put my re circulation on nothing gets that's the idea of it,
Dog poo all the way! The stench would waft through the vents at the bottom of the windscreen Mr know all. Unless someone sees you, very difficult to prove even if they DNA tested all.. the dogs in the area. Bins in the road would not draw the police out, think about the response times whenever you have needed them.
And I work with cars so I do know enough it appears you don't. perhaps yours is full of rust so it gets in.
But are people willing to take the chance someone wont see them most people wont take that chance.
choperado
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10:50pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Don't take it so seriously and be such a snob, my car's Hunky Dory the only rust round here is on my Sheriffs Badge!
Old Lob
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7:34am Thu 13 Dec 12
Shame on those who think throwing dogpoo is a suitable retort to ignorant parking.
choperado
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10:47am Thu 13 Dec 12
I hope it is as much fun as the genius idea about dog poo!
Old Lob
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11:44am Sat 15 Dec 12
I am sure that the residents wont mind the extra cars if the parking is done thoughtfully and with a little respect for the problems that might be created for locals.
How easy would that be?
But I will wager that it won't happen as people these days just dont care about their fellow man.
SAC_in_Warrington
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2:01pm Thu 27 Dec 12
Pauline McEwan says...
12:06pm Thu 6 Dec 12
This is obviously a case of ignorance as if someone had an emergency and had to get out they wouldn't be able to if their drive is blocked.