Time running out to save Smith's building - owners promise new development on site

Time running out to save Smith's building - owners promise new development on site

Rick Astley played there in the late 1980s

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TIME is running out for Mr Smith's, after it was confirmed listing the doomed building would not save it from demolition.

A Save Mr Smith's Facebook group has been started, with more than 1000 ‘likes’ so far, calling for demolition to be stopped, and appealing for the building to be listed.

Mr Smith's is not listed, which means it has no legal protection from demolition.

English Heritage, the national body which can apply for buildings to become listed, said Mr Smith's could be considered.

However, it would have to fit certain criteria, such as age, and rarity, and depend on how much of the original building remains intact.

As the listing process is lengthy, requiring a referral, extensive investigation and Government approval, it would not happen in time to save Mr Smith's.

The building can be knocked down from the week commencing August 11, although work is eligible to take place at any time in the following 12 months. 

English Heritage confirmed there is no legal protection afforded to a site under consideration to be listed.

Buildings can also be listed locally with Warrington Borough Council.

Mr Smith's is not on a local list and Town Hall bosses said even if it was, it would not protect it from being knocked down.

A council spokesman said: “A local list indicates that a property may have some heritage value but not from a statutory point of view.

“A local listing would not stop the building from being demolished.”

The building is owned by the Pervaiz Naviede Family Trust. Salford-based property development company LPC Living is acting for the trust.

It said demolition had been decided after four unsuccessful years of trying to sell it.

A spokesman said: “The property has been vacant for the past four years and despite extensive marketing there has been limited interest.

“Whilst our agents have shown a number of nightclub and leisure operators around the building the feedback received was that they felt the it was too large to run on a commercial basis.

“In addition, when it was converted into a nightclub in the 1980s the majority of the original features were ripped out and this conversion may well have restricted alternative uses for the building.

“We intend to work with the council and the community to help create a sustainable development for those living and working in Warrington.”

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8:44am Thu 24 Jul 14

Penketh Pony says...

Entirely logical.
Entirely logical. Penketh Pony
  • Score: 3

9:32am Thu 24 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

Looks like all the bungs have been made!
Looks like all the bungs have been made! richiepooh
  • Score: 3

10:23am Thu 24 Jul 14

Traveller29 says...

Oh well, we tried :(

Once gone maybe they will build some offices that will stay empty for years?!!

btw, there is an irony here - I understand that the phone box is listed?!!
Oh well, we tried :( Once gone maybe they will build some offices that will stay empty for years?!! btw, there is an irony here - I understand that the phone box is listed?!! Traveller29
  • Score: 9

11:11am Thu 24 Jul 14

RichardHead says...

It should be made in to Warringtons own arena preserving the outside of the building and re doing the inside..you all saw how fast the John Bishop tickets sold out at the tiny parr hall.people need a reason to go in the town centre of an evening. Warrington is slowly becoming a ghost town as people are choosing to go to Liverpool or Manchester for the big shows and concerts
It should be made in to Warringtons own arena preserving the outside of the building and re doing the inside..you all saw how fast the John Bishop tickets sold out at the tiny parr hall.people need a reason to go in the town centre of an evening. Warrington is slowly becoming a ghost town as people are choosing to go to Liverpool or Manchester for the big shows and concerts RichardHead
  • Score: 8

12:53pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Justin Gregory says...

I Think its Time for a New Cinema in Our Town
I Think its Time for a New Cinema in Our Town Justin Gregory
  • Score: 4

12:59pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Reader says...

Isn't the 3rd internal floor still in it's original state and someone said the the outsides hardly changed since it was built in 1937.

I guess the "sustainable development for those living and working in Warrington" means flats then ???
Isn't the 3rd internal floor still in it's original state and someone said the the outsides hardly changed since it was built in 1937. I guess the "sustainable development for those living and working in Warrington" means flats then ??? Reader
  • Score: 5

1:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

grey-area says...

I understand that people said it was an eyesore building back in the fifties. How times change.
I understand that people said it was an eyesore building back in the fifties. How times change. grey-area
  • Score: 2

2:58pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Traveller29 says...

Justin Gregory wrote:
I Think its Time for a New Cinema in Our Town
Isn't there one planned in the new development near to the market?
[quote][p][bold]Justin Gregory[/bold] wrote: I Think its Time for a New Cinema in Our Town[/p][/quote]Isn't there one planned in the new development near to the market? Traveller29
  • Score: 0

3:12pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Penketh Pony says...

Traveller29 wrote:
Justin Gregory wrote:
I Think its Time for a New Cinema in Our Town
Isn't there one planned in the new development near to the market?
Yes there is. From WBC website:

'Other key components of the scheme will comprise a state-of-the-art multiplex cinema and a new civic centre.'
[quote][p][bold]Traveller29[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin Gregory[/bold] wrote: I Think its Time for a New Cinema in Our Town[/p][/quote]Isn't there one planned in the new development near to the market?[/p][/quote]Yes there is. From WBC website: 'Other key components of the scheme [market redevelopment] will comprise a state-of-the-art multiplex cinema and a new civic centre.' Penketh Pony
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Thu 24 Jul 14

jonesy1980 says...

Had some good times there myself, but let it go. Nobody cared until it was announced that it was being demolished.

Everyone keeps asking for a town centre cinema, hasn't it already been established that there's going to be one on Time Square?
Had some good times there myself, but let it go. Nobody cared until it was announced that it was being demolished. Everyone keeps asking for a town centre cinema, hasn't it already been established that there's going to be one on Time Square? jonesy1980
  • Score: 3

4:01pm Thu 24 Jul 14

gordon holt says...

knock it down and get the owners to widen the road on the corner to help stop the congestion
knock it down and get the owners to widen the road on the corner to help stop the congestion gordon holt
  • Score: 3

10:26pm Thu 24 Jul 14

grey-area says...

If a new cinema is built, I hope WBC an sort out parking arrangements, because if they don't, it won't get the audiences, just like all the other town centre cinemas that have unfortunately closed.

I lke the suggestion that any new development should incorporate an alteration to widen the road there.
If a new cinema is built, I hope WBC an sort out parking arrangements, because if they don't, it won't get the audiences, just like all the other town centre cinemas that have unfortunately closed. I lke the suggestion that any new development should incorporate an alteration to widen the road there. grey-area
  • Score: 4

5:15pm Mon 28 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

There was supposed to be a cinema built on winwick street where they "accidentally" knocked down the bay horse in 2005...well nine years later that listed building is .... a brick field...well done WBC...you really know how to look after our heritage.

To be honest the town hall could do with demolishing and making into a tesco express
There was supposed to be a cinema built on winwick street where they "accidentally" knocked down the bay horse in 2005...well nine years later that listed building is .... a brick field...well done WBC...you really know how to look after our heritage. To be honest the town hall could do with demolishing and making into a tesco express richiepooh
  • Score: 2

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