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8:43am Thu 10 Jul 14

I_don't_believe_it says...

Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!! I_don't_believe_it
  • Score: 5

8:52am Thu 10 Jul 14

Warrington Wife says...

Maybe if more non public service workers went on strike there would be more support. Construction workers have had it the most raw of late as well as warehouse staff, no pay rises for years, terrible pensions and more and more temporary positions coming into play.

The problem is the terms of employment aren't fair in the majority of jobs as companies cut costs and corners.

Maybe if we make more of a united stand as a country things will change, otherwise we will see more low wages, no pensions, no NHS, even more foreign workers and more zero hour contracts. Come on Britain lets speak up, France never back down why should we!!!
Maybe if more non public service workers went on strike there would be more support. Construction workers have had it the most raw of late as well as warehouse staff, no pay rises for years, terrible pensions and more and more temporary positions coming into play. The problem is the terms of employment aren't fair in the majority of jobs as companies cut costs and corners. Maybe if we make more of a united stand as a country things will change, otherwise we will see more low wages, no pensions, no NHS, even more foreign workers and more zero hour contracts. Come on Britain lets speak up, France never back down why should we!!! Warrington Wife
  • Score: 13

9:20am Thu 10 Jul 14

HappyMisery says...

A systematic annual increase on tax and a reduction in services across the land. Where do the public sector workers expect this money to come from? Residents in Warrington already get reduced services and nothing that offers value for money, yet the employees want more? I'm surprised they get any support tbh.
A systematic annual increase on tax and a reduction in services across the land. Where do the public sector workers expect this money to come from? Residents in Warrington already get reduced services and nothing that offers value for money, yet the employees want more? I'm surprised they get any support tbh. HappyMisery
  • Score: 6

10:55am Thu 10 Jul 14

WTONSkeptic says...

Looking around the offices and nearly everyone is in work....where are the thousands that are on strike, is there even thousands in the unions?

Commentators, don't assume everyone supports this action, the majority done
Looking around the offices and nearly everyone is in work....where are the thousands that are on strike, is there even thousands in the unions? Commentators, don't assume everyone supports this action, the majority done WTONSkeptic
  • Score: -2

11:18am Thu 10 Jul 14

WorkingMum66 says...

I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Here Here!

I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.
[quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]Here Here! I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings. WorkingMum66
  • Score: 1

1:04pm Thu 10 Jul 14

WTONSkeptic says...

WorkingMum66 wrote:
I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Here Here!

I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.
Its not all civil servants, its actually a minority of them.... no matter what is being reported, most WBC staff are in work today
[quote][p][bold]WorkingMum66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]Here Here! I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.[/p][/quote]Its not all civil servants, its actually a minority of them.... no matter what is being reported, most WBC staff are in work today WTONSkeptic
  • Score: -1

2:38pm Thu 10 Jul 14

WInwick Pig says...

An open apology to everyone who is on strike today and manning picket lines.

Due to the amazing lack of traffic on the road, ease of getting in to work and minimal jams at major junctions today as well as not having to navigate around cumbersome rubbish trucks, I was probably driving too fast to see all of you wasting such a lovely day in the sunshine standing with your flimsy placards.

I just did not have time to 'honk' sorry ;-)

Your attempt to completely inconvenience me with prehistoric actions has done quite the opposite and I am looking forward to getting home early so I can take my son to the park for a kick about!

I'm sorry, but thank you

Oink:@)
An open apology to everyone who is on strike today and manning picket lines. Due to the amazing lack of traffic on the road, ease of getting in to work and minimal jams at major junctions today as well as not having to navigate around cumbersome rubbish trucks, I was probably driving too fast to see all of you wasting such a lovely day in the sunshine standing with your flimsy placards. I just did not have time to 'honk' sorry ;-) Your attempt to completely inconvenience me with prehistoric actions has done quite the opposite and I am looking forward to getting home early so I can take my son to the park for a kick about! I'm sorry, but thank you Oink:@) WInwick Pig
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Thu 10 Jul 14

ChristoB says...

i wonder just how many of those on strike actually want to be and how many are out because the left wing union bully boys have instructed them they will strike - or else. Bullying an coercion does happen in unions. These people just want Labour back in power so they can have a free for all and re-wreck the economy.
i wonder just how many of those on strike actually want to be and how many are out because the left wing union bully boys have instructed them they will strike - or else. Bullying an coercion does happen in unions. These people just want Labour back in power so they can have a free for all and re-wreck the economy. ChristoB
  • Score: -1

6:18pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Kelli_Marie says...

I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!!
[quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!! Kelli_Marie
  • Score: 9

9:04pm Thu 10 Jul 14

roadrunner says...

...They do say ignorance is bliss, and looking at the comments on here, I would also class them as embarrassing.
I work as a firefighter and just for the record I, and my colleagues are taking strike action to gain nothing.....thats right.....to gain absolutely nothing. As it has been so fantastically written above, we knew what we were signing up to......and that is why we are striking.....just to keep what we signed up for......absolutely nothing else.....to keep the pension that we signed up for....we are asking for an increase of nothing, zero, zilch.
As for undertaking a hard days work, I challenge any of you key board warriors to come and complete a tour of duty with me and my colleagues.....you will find out very very quickly that we work hard to proudly serve you the very people who bad mouth us for fighting just to keep what  we signed up for.
We deal with things that would have people like you crying for your mothers......we strive to educate and protect our communities, to prevent emergencies, and when that is not enough,  respond to save lives, property and pick up the pieces.
So before you saddle up you high horse, get your facts right, and take a second to think about the people in the public sector who are here to proudly serve you the public. We dont ask for much,  but a little respect,  fair pay and pensions,  and a stop to the cuts that will mean the people we proudly serve receiving a lesser service,  is not much to ask.....is it...?
...They do say ignorance is bliss, and looking at the comments on here, I would also class them as embarrassing. I work as a firefighter and just for the record I, and my colleagues are taking strike action to gain nothing.....thats right.....to gain absolutely nothing. As it has been so fantastically written above, we knew what we were signing up to......and that is why we are striking.....just to keep what we signed up for......absolutely nothing else.....to keep the pension that we signed up for....we are asking for an increase of nothing, zero, zilch. As for undertaking a hard days work, I challenge any of you key board warriors to come and complete a tour of duty with me and my colleagues.....you will find out very very quickly that we work hard to proudly serve you the very people who bad mouth us for fighting just to keep what  we signed up for. We deal with things that would have people like you crying for your mothers......we strive to educate and protect our communities, to prevent emergencies, and when that is not enough,  respond to save lives, property and pick up the pieces. So before you saddle up you high horse, get your facts right, and take a second to think about the people in the public sector who are here to proudly serve you the public. We dont ask for much,  but a little respect,  fair pay and pensions,  and a stop to the cuts that will mean the people we proudly serve receiving a lesser service,  is not much to ask.....is it...? roadrunner
  • Score: 14

12:47am Fri 11 Jul 14

chrishahar says...

I think a quote from Fight Club suits this comment thread perfectly well. "Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. Don't f*** with us.

Some may not necessarily suit the cause, but you get the essence.

That is all.
I think a quote from Fight Club suits this comment thread perfectly well. "Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. Don't f*** with us. Some may not necessarily suit the cause, but you get the essence. That is all. chrishahar
  • Score: 6

8:16am Fri 11 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

Kelli_Marie wrote:
I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!!
I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community.
Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG
[quote][p][bold]Kelli_Marie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!![/p][/quote]I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community. Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG richiepooh
  • Score: -8

10:02am Fri 11 Jul 14

Kelli_Marie says...

richiepooh wrote:
Kelli_Marie wrote:
I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!!
I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community.
Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG
As this comment clearly demonstrates a lot of the the negative comments left on this post are by small minded people that are unaware of the facts! Like I said in my previous post I have worked for the council for 6 years and I started on 12k a year I am now on 17k that did not happen in a pay raise but through working very hard to move up in my service, that's far from the £22k you state we get as a minimum! I am contacted to work 37 hours a week in fact I work on average 44 hours a week going above any beyond to keep people in this community safe and help improve there life quality!
Children will learn if they choose to no matter how hard teaching staff work not all young people will achieve there best due to own choosing, that stems from parenting not schools!
As for unskilled and cushy jobs, again shows the lack of knowledge you have in regards to your local service people, are jobs are far from cushy most of us work year to year on temporary contacts, and I would challenging any of you to come and spend a day in our jobs, working with vulnerable people out in the community and there homes, getting abuse daily in schools from young people, and saving life's putting out fires in your homes and then tell me again that we are unskilled!!!
[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kelli_Marie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!![/p][/quote]I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community. Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG[/p][/quote]As this comment clearly demonstrates a lot of the the negative comments left on this post are by small minded people that are unaware of the facts! Like I said in my previous post I have worked for the council for 6 years and I started on 12k a year I am now on 17k that did not happen in a pay raise but through working very hard to move up in my service, that's far from the £22k you state we get as a minimum! I am contacted to work 37 hours a week in fact I work on average 44 hours a week going above any beyond to keep people in this community safe and help improve there life quality! Children will learn if they choose to no matter how hard teaching staff work not all young people will achieve there best due to own choosing, that stems from parenting not schools! As for unskilled and cushy jobs, again shows the lack of knowledge you have in regards to your local service people, are jobs are far from cushy most of us work year to year on temporary contacts, and I would challenging any of you to come and spend a day in our jobs, working with vulnerable people out in the community and there homes, getting abuse daily in schools from young people, and saving life's putting out fires in your homes and then tell me again that we are unskilled!!! Kelli_Marie
  • Score: 13

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