Swing bridge problems cause 'mayhem' in Warrington

Warrington Guardian: Swing bridge problems cause 'mayhem' in Warrington Swing bridge problems cause 'mayhem' in Warrington

THE battle to stop boats travelling along the Manchester Ship Canal during rush hour shows no signs of coming to a resolution anytime soon.

Frustrated residents have continued to voice their growing concerns after the Warrington Guardian revealed that the swing bridges in Warrington are expected to open more than 100 times during rush hour.

The bridges in Latchford, Stockton Heath and Walton often trigger traffic gridlock when opened during peak times causing motorists to miss appointments, arrive at work late and be delayed from dropping off and picking up children from school.

Great Sankey resident Dave Attew knows only too well the problems caused when the bridges are opened.

The 68-year-old, who is now retired, would face traffic ‘mayhem’ on a regular basis which would cause problems for his job, as a prescription delivery man for the Co-op.

He said: “The traffic in Warrington is bad at the best of times - never mind when the bridges are opened and the traffic would come to a standstill.

“This meant a lot of people would not get their medicine on the day they wanted it as I was held up in traffic. If it was an emergency, the pharmacist would have to drop them off on the way home.

“I am retired now, but I feel for the people of Warrington who get stuck in this all the time.”

Rachel Chorley, from Lower Walton, crosses the bridges on a daily basis but despite always arriving to work on time, she has witnessed emergency services stranded while the bridges have opened - sometimes to allow low level boats to travel along the canal.

She said: “Only last week an ambulance was stuck at the bridge. The emergency lights and sirens were on and the ambulance had no choice but to wait over 10 minutes. It could have been a matter of life or death.”

“I would say that the Chester Road bridge barriers are activated far too early and often traffic is stationary for over 10 minutes before the boat is even in sight.

“Peel should do more testing and rethink how early they realistically need to put the barriers down.”

Officers at Warrington Borough Council and executives at Peel Ports are scheduled to meet on Tuesday to discuss the ongoing issue surrounding the swing bridges.

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12:24pm Thu 27 Feb 14

fedster says...

its ironic that the barges helping with the new bridge are causing the delays
its ironic that the barges helping with the new bridge are causing the delays fedster
  • Score: 7

6:39pm Thu 27 Feb 14

old-codger says...

Allow a extra ten minutes for your journey, Most people do, When the extra shipping starts to use the canal we shall see how it goe,s , Until then its al panic, I cross his bridge quite often at rush hour, ten minute delay at the most, Ambulances have to come from Runcorn most of the time, They should bring back the 24/7 ambulance depot to Warrington.
Allow a extra ten minutes for your journey, Most people do, When the extra shipping starts to use the canal we shall see how it goe,s , Until then its al panic, I cross his bridge quite often at rush hour, ten minute delay at the most, Ambulances have to come from Runcorn most of the time, They should bring back the 24/7 ambulance depot to Warrington. old-codger
  • Score: 4

9:07am Fri 28 Feb 14

ctuk_WA3 says...

Ambulances should be left out of this debate, they don't have a rush hour.
Ambulances should be left out of this debate, they don't have a rush hour. ctuk_WA3
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Fri 28 Feb 14

fedster says...

old-codger wrote:
Allow a extra ten minutes for your journey, Most people do, When the extra shipping starts to use the canal we shall see how it goe,s , Until then its al panic, I cross his bridge quite often at rush hour, ten minute delay at the most, Ambulances have to come from Runcorn most of the time, They should bring back the 24/7 ambulance depot to Warrington.
isnt their a station on farrel street ?

thing is as stated on other post over this canal thing, some of the boats up and down do not have the AIS built in so the web site and apps cant track them.

so you can not plan ahead.
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: Allow a extra ten minutes for your journey, Most people do, When the extra shipping starts to use the canal we shall see how it goe,s , Until then its al panic, I cross his bridge quite often at rush hour, ten minute delay at the most, Ambulances have to come from Runcorn most of the time, They should bring back the 24/7 ambulance depot to Warrington.[/p][/quote]isnt their a station on farrel street ? thing is as stated on other post over this canal thing, some of the boats up and down do not have the AIS built in so the web site and apps cant track them. so you can not plan ahead. fedster
  • Score: -4

1:58pm Fri 28 Feb 14

PageA says...

This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.
This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one. PageA
  • Score: 8

4:25pm Fri 28 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.
Love it when you kick off. I am voting for you this election.
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.[/p][/quote]Love it when you kick off. I am voting for you this election. Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -5

7:58pm Fri 28 Feb 14

PageA says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.
Love it when you kick off. I am voting for you this election.
Still Grumpy
Thank you for your support Grumpy. Probably still going to lose my deposit to be honest
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.[/p][/quote]Love it when you kick off. I am voting for you this election. Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Thank you for your support Grumpy. Probably still going to lose my deposit to be honest PageA
  • Score: -1

8:28pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

PageA wrote:
This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.
Exactly. The chattering ones in the local media and politics who normally give us, whether we ask for it it or not, their opinion on the fall of every sparrow, have kept their gobs firmly shut as the town sleepwalked into this situation.
As Sherlock Holmes remarked about the guard dog that never barked...'Curious.'
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.[/p][/quote]Exactly. The chattering ones in the local media and politics who normally give us, whether we ask for it it or not, their opinion on the fall of every sparrow, have kept their gobs firmly shut as the town sleepwalked into this situation. As Sherlock Holmes remarked about the guard dog that never barked...'Curious.' Freeborn John
  • Score: 4

5:12pm Sat 1 Mar 14

fedster says...

PageA wrote:
This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.
thing is theirs no space to put high bridges in now so all they could build is maybe another swing bridge then its back to square one.

someone mentioned converting the old railway bridge near latchford lochs.

i have to admit the only peel holdings boat is the coastal that has been through at rush hour maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 6 weeks.
and 2 of them where a saturday.

i have noticed a lot of issues with the bridges themselves, the one in moor is a good example (took a timelapse of the bridge part of hobby)

the bridge opened and the boat was through all inside of 4 minutes its then took the controller nearly 22 minutes to get the bridge realigned and locked into place. now ive seen this a few times at the one on chester road. So are some of the long delays part of the technology or just pi** poor planning.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.[/p][/quote]thing is theirs no space to put high bridges in now so all they could build is maybe another swing bridge then its back to square one. someone mentioned converting the old railway bridge near latchford lochs. i have to admit the only peel holdings boat is the coastal that has been through at rush hour maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 6 weeks. and 2 of them where a saturday. i have noticed a lot of issues with the bridges themselves, the one in moor is a good example (took a timelapse of the bridge part of hobby) the bridge opened and the boat was through all inside of 4 minutes its then took the controller nearly 22 minutes to get the bridge realigned and locked into place. now ive seen this a few times at the one on chester road. So are some of the long delays part of the technology or just pi** poor planning. fedster
  • Score: 7

10:29am Sun 2 Mar 14

old-codger says...

fedster wrote:
old-codger wrote:
Allow a extra ten minutes for your journey, Most people do, When the extra shipping starts to use the canal we shall see how it goe,s , Until then its al panic, I cross his bridge quite often at rush hour, ten minute delay at the most, Ambulances have to come from Runcorn most of the time, They should bring back the 24/7 ambulance depot to Warrington.
isnt their a station on farrel street ?

thing is as stated on other post over this canal thing, some of the boats up and down do not have the AIS built in so the web site and apps cant track them.

so you can not plan ahead.
Farrel street are no longer 24/7. Evenings and weekends are covered from Runcorn, Although you will find the odd one parked up on a motorway bridge in case of emergency.
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: Allow a extra ten minutes for your journey, Most people do, When the extra shipping starts to use the canal we shall see how it goe,s , Until then its al panic, I cross his bridge quite often at rush hour, ten minute delay at the most, Ambulances have to come from Runcorn most of the time, They should bring back the 24/7 ambulance depot to Warrington.[/p][/quote]isnt their a station on farrel street ? thing is as stated on other post over this canal thing, some of the boats up and down do not have the AIS built in so the web site and apps cant track them. so you can not plan ahead.[/p][/quote]Farrel street are no longer 24/7. Evenings and weekends are covered from Runcorn, Although you will find the odd one parked up on a motorway bridge in case of emergency. old-codger
  • Score: 0

10:32am Sun 2 Mar 14

old-codger says...

Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.
Exactly. The chattering ones in the local media and politics who normally give us, whether we ask for it it or not, their opinion on the fall of every sparrow, have kept their gobs firmly shut as the town sleepwalked into this situation.
As Sherlock Holmes remarked about the guard dog that never barked...'Curious.'
Elementary my dear Watson :):):)
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: This whole campaign is just a blame shifting exercise. Newspaper working with the council to make it look like they're all working for the public's best interest. The public's best interest would have been for this to have been addressed years ago. Please do not spend any of my tax contribution on this futile face-saving exercise. Peel will **** on you in any court of law. Don't come back with 'look we tried, but they're the baddies'. This knee jerk reaction is no good. You should have had this on the agenda at week one.[/p][/quote]Exactly. The chattering ones in the local media and politics who normally give us, whether we ask for it it or not, their opinion on the fall of every sparrow, have kept their gobs firmly shut as the town sleepwalked into this situation. As Sherlock Holmes remarked about the guard dog that never barked...'Curious.'[/p][/quote]Elementary my dear Watson :):):) old-codger
  • Score: 0

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