Culcheth driver banned after getting behind wheel after pub visit

Culcheth driver banned after getting behind wheel after pub visit

Culcheth driver banned after getting behind wheel after pub visit

First published in News

A PENSIONER has been banned from driving after getting behind the wheel after leaving the pub.


John Pidgeon, aged 76, of Loushers Lane, was stopped by police on January 4.


Officers received reports of Pidgeon leaving a pub on Common Lane, Culceth.
 

A breath test showed 55 microgrammes of alcohol in 100ml of breath.


The legal limit is 35.


The defendant pleaded guilty to drink driving at Halton Magistrates on Thursday.


He said: “There is no excuse. I apologise.”

 

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10:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

ALCOHOLIC?
ALCOHOLIC? MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -4

6:08am Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.
Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

11:56am Sun 16 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.
Come on now SAC - does your ludicrous definition of an alcoholic (which is basically anyone who has even one drink on more than one occasion) not apply after a certain age?
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.[/p][/quote]Come on now SAC - does your ludicrous definition of an alcoholic (which is basically anyone who has even one drink on more than one occasion) not apply after a certain age? Nick Tessla
  • Score: 3

2:13pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.
Come on now SAC - does your ludicrous definition of an alcoholic (which is basically anyone who has even one drink on more than one occasion) not apply after a certain age?
Really Nick, I see you totally approve in such irresponsible behaviour as displayed by ;

"A PENSIONER has been banned from driving after getting behind the wheel after leaving the pub" .

What is your solution for drunken drivers, brawlers, murderers and such like where alcohol is greatly overindulged and is clearly a constituent part of this grave issue?
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.[/p][/quote]Come on now SAC - does your ludicrous definition of an alcoholic (which is basically anyone who has even one drink on more than one occasion) not apply after a certain age?[/p][/quote]Really Nick, I see you totally approve in such irresponsible behaviour as displayed by ; "A PENSIONER has been banned from driving after getting behind the wheel after leaving the pub" . What is your solution for drunken drivers, brawlers, murderers and such like where alcohol is greatly overindulged and is clearly a constituent part of this grave issue? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

5:31pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.
Come on now SAC - does your ludicrous definition of an alcoholic (which is basically anyone who has even one drink on more than one occasion) not apply after a certain age?
Really Nick, I see you totally approve in such irresponsible behaviour as displayed by ;

"A PENSIONER has been banned from driving after getting behind the wheel after leaving the pub" .

What is your solution for drunken drivers, brawlers, murderers and such like where alcohol is greatly overindulged and is clearly a constituent part of this grave issue?
What was there in what I said that leads you to believe that I approve of drink-driving.?

The solution is NOT to stereotype everyone who does not meet your priggish demand for total abstinence. The solution is not to inaccurately label everyone who harmlessly enjoys an occasional drink as an alcoholic.

Your ludicrous extremism on the subject detracts from any sensible thoughts you may have on the subject
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: Possibly an inebriate, certainly intoxicated.[/p][/quote]Come on now SAC - does your ludicrous definition of an alcoholic (which is basically anyone who has even one drink on more than one occasion) not apply after a certain age?[/p][/quote]Really Nick, I see you totally approve in such irresponsible behaviour as displayed by ; "A PENSIONER has been banned from driving after getting behind the wheel after leaving the pub" . What is your solution for drunken drivers, brawlers, murderers and such like where alcohol is greatly overindulged and is clearly a constituent part of this grave issue?[/p][/quote]What was there in what I said that leads you to believe that I approve of drink-driving.? The solution is NOT to stereotype everyone who does not meet your priggish demand for total abstinence. The solution is not to inaccurately label everyone who harmlessly enjoys an occasional drink as an alcoholic. Your ludicrous extremism on the subject detracts from any sensible thoughts you may have on the subject Nick Tessla
  • Score: 2

6:20pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

So then, is he an alcoholic or not?
So then, is he an alcoholic or not? grey-area
  • Score: 2

6:54pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey-area wrote:
So then, is he an alcoholic or not?
Those who do not get inebriated may think yes and those who do not get inebriated may think not. It is purely a matter of accepted opinion and ones personal experiences.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: So then, is he an alcoholic or not?[/p][/quote]Those who do not get inebriated may think yes and those who do not get inebriated may think not. It is purely a matter of accepted opinion and ones personal experiences. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

8:51pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
grey-area wrote:
So then, is he an alcoholic or not?
Those who do not get inebriated may think yes and those who do not get inebriated may think not. It is purely a matter of accepted opinion and ones personal experiences.
Sorry SAC, I don't get this.
You said the 20 year old idiot was an alcoholic. But don't say this 76 year old idiot is an alcoholic.

They either both are, or both not.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: So then, is he an alcoholic or not?[/p][/quote]Those who do not get inebriated may think yes and those who do not get inebriated may think not. It is purely a matter of accepted opinion and ones personal experiences.[/p][/quote]Sorry SAC, I don't get this. You said the 20 year old idiot was an alcoholic. But don't say this 76 year old idiot is an alcoholic. They either both are, or both not. grey-area
  • Score: 2

9:08pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey-area wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
grey-area wrote:
So then, is he an alcoholic or not?
Those who do not get inebriated may think yes and those who do not get inebriated may think not. It is purely a matter of accepted opinion and ones personal experiences.
Sorry SAC, I don't get this.
You said the 20 year old idiot was an alcoholic. But don't say this 76 year old idiot is an alcoholic.

They either both are, or both not.
You perfectly know what my answer is from my previous comments. What is your view on the treatment of alcoholics who overindulge then are reported or prosecuted for causing a nuisance to others?
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: So then, is he an alcoholic or not?[/p][/quote]Those who do not get inebriated may think yes and those who do not get inebriated may think not. It is purely a matter of accepted opinion and ones personal experiences.[/p][/quote]Sorry SAC, I don't get this. You said the 20 year old idiot was an alcoholic. But don't say this 76 year old idiot is an alcoholic. They either both are, or both not.[/p][/quote]You perfectly know what my answer is from my previous comments. What is your view on the treatment of alcoholics who overindulge then are reported or prosecuted for causing a nuisance to others? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

10:25pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Alcoholics, who by definition and their nature, overindulge need treatment for alcohol addiction. If they are prosecuted they should serve a sentence and also get treatment.

Non alcoholics who get prosecuted for excess alcohol, whether above legal levels or not, should serve a sentence.

But there isn't enough evidence from these stories to suggest they are alcoholics.
Alcoholics, who by definition and their nature, overindulge need treatment for alcohol addiction. If they are prosecuted they should serve a sentence and also get treatment. Non alcoholics who get prosecuted for excess alcohol, whether above legal levels or not, should serve a sentence. But there isn't enough evidence from these stories to suggest they are alcoholics. grey-area
  • Score: 3

10:33pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey-area wrote:
Alcoholics, who by definition and their nature, overindulge need treatment for alcohol addiction. If they are prosecuted they should serve a sentence and also get treatment.

Non alcoholics who get prosecuted for excess alcohol, whether above legal levels or not, should serve a sentence.

But there isn't enough evidence from these stories to suggest they are alcoholics.
alcoholic
alkəˈhɒlɪk/Submi
t
adjective
1.
containing or relating to alcohol.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: Alcoholics, who by definition and their nature, overindulge need treatment for alcohol addiction. If they are prosecuted they should serve a sentence and also get treatment. Non alcoholics who get prosecuted for excess alcohol, whether above legal levels or not, should serve a sentence. But there isn't enough evidence from these stories to suggest they are alcoholics.[/p][/quote]alcoholic alkəˈhɒlɪk/Submi t adjective 1. containing or relating to alcohol. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

10:41pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Quite correct definition SAC, but out of context.
Adjective is a describing word. ie alcoholic drink; alcoholic person; alcoholic chocolates

Noun - the definitive word - a person with an alcohol problem/addiction.
Quite correct definition SAC, but out of context. Adjective is a describing word. ie alcoholic drink; alcoholic person; alcoholic chocolates Noun - the definitive word - a person with an alcohol problem/addiction. grey-area
  • Score: 2

10:51pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey-area wrote:
Quite correct definition SAC, but out of context.
Adjective is a describing word. ie alcoholic drink; alcoholic person; alcoholic chocolates

Noun - the definitive word - a person with an alcohol problem/addiction.
So we now agree that an alcoholic is a person with an alcohol problem or a person with an alcohol addiction.

The said drunken people afore mentioned certainly were observed to have an alcohol problem.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: Quite correct definition SAC, but out of context. Adjective is a describing word. ie alcoholic drink; alcoholic person; alcoholic chocolates Noun - the definitive word - a person with an alcohol problem/addiction.[/p][/quote]So we now agree that an alcoholic is a person with an alcohol problem or a person with an alcohol addiction. The said drunken people afore mentioned certainly were observed to have an alcohol problem. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

11:04pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

No they weren't observed to have an alcohol problem. They had a problem because they were caught doing something you shouldn't do after drinking alcohol.

No where does it say they are addicted or have a problem with alcohol itself. They just had too much in their system "legally" to drive. Doesn't even mean they were drunk.

Having said that I totally disagree with drink driving, drinking to excess
or causing a nuisance to anyone whether drinking or not.
No they weren't observed to have an alcohol problem. They had a problem because they were caught doing something you shouldn't do after drinking alcohol. No where does it say they are addicted or have a problem with alcohol itself. They just had too much in their system "legally" to drive. Doesn't even mean they were drunk. Having said that I totally disagree with drink driving, drinking to excess or causing a nuisance to anyone whether drinking or not. grey-area
  • Score: 2

7:43am Tue 18 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

I had a slice of cake at the weekend could SAC recommend a therapist as I clearly have an eating disorder!!!
I had a slice of cake at the weekend could SAC recommend a therapist as I clearly have an eating disorder!!! Nick Tessla
  • Score: 3

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