Woolston drink driver banned for 18 months

Warrington Guardian: Woolston drink driver banned for 18 months Woolston drink driver banned for 18 months

A WOOLSTON driver caught when more than twice over the legal limit has been banned for 18 months.


Thomas James Powell, aged 20, of Hillock Lane, pleaded guilty to drink driving at Halton Magistrates Court on Thursday.


He was stopped by police on Knutsford Road at 6.30am on January 5 after officers noticed he was using fog lights when they were not needed.


A breath test shwoed 73 microgrammes of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The limit is 35.


The court heard he was leaving a friends where he had stayed overnight following a work’s Christmas dinner.


Powell was also fined £320 and told to pay costs of £85, and a victim surcharge of £32.

 

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12:23pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Withdraw his licence and insist he takes steps to curb his alcoholic obsession. This is yet another person attempting to harm himself and the local community; additionally someone else causing a possible public assault with a dangerous weapon, i.e. the vehicle he was driving while intoxicated and out of his mind through the debilitating effects of alcoholic beverages.

Withdraw his licence and insist he takes steps to curb his alcoholic obsession. This is yet another person attempting to harm himself and the local community; additionally someone else causing a possible public assault with a dangerous weapon, i.e. the vehicle he was driving while intoxicated and out of his mind through the debilitating effects of alcoholic beverages. [Now watch the alcoholics try to defend him in some way or have a go at me for having an opinion like them] SAC_in_Warrington

3:37pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Withdraw his licence and insist he takes steps to curb his alcoholic obsession. This is yet another person attempting to harm himself and the local community; additionally someone else causing a possible public assault with a dangerous weapon, i.e. the vehicle he was driving while intoxicated and out of his mind through the debilitating effects of alcoholic beverages.

What alcohol obsession? There is no evidence he is an alcoholic (if that's what you mean) or even that he regularly drinks. For all we know he may be virtually teetotal.

You're the one who appears to have an alcohol obsession, judging by this and other postings.

I am not defending what this individual did most of us who do imbibe are not alcoholics and can cope very well without anti-drink puritans attempting to tar us all with the same brush.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: Withdraw his licence and insist he takes steps to curb his alcoholic obsession. This is yet another person attempting to harm himself and the local community; additionally someone else causing a possible public assault with a dangerous weapon, i.e. the vehicle he was driving while intoxicated and out of his mind through the debilitating effects of alcoholic beverages. [Now watch the alcoholics try to defend him in some way or have a go at me for having an opinion like them][/p][/quote]What alcohol obsession? There is no evidence he is an alcoholic (if that's what you mean) or even that he regularly drinks. For all we know he may be virtually teetotal. You're the one who appears to have an alcohol obsession, judging by this and other postings. I am not defending what this individual did most of us who do imbibe are not alcoholics and can cope very well without anti-drink puritans attempting to tar us all with the same brush. Nick Tessla

3:50pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

I protest about alcohol over indulgences because it causes severe problems for families, local communities, the local authority and vital emergency services. Even in relatively small amounts it is toxic, addictive and its dire effects are dismissed by those who partake of it in my opinion and experience.
I protest about alcohol over indulgences because it causes severe problems for families, local communities, the local authority and vital emergency services. Even in relatively small amounts it is toxic, addictive and its dire effects are dismissed by those who partake of it in my opinion and experience. SAC_in_Warrington

4:08pm Wed 12 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT

4:45pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal.

Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc.

Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal. Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc. Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig. Nick Tessla

5:45pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Ed0694 says...

Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day!
Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day! Ed0694

5:56pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Ed0694 wrote:
Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day!
He has been reported and prosecuted for severe and possible life threatening alcoholic misbehaviour in a court of law, i.e he's an alcoholic in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Ed0694[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day![/p][/quote]He has been reported and prosecuted for severe and possible life threatening alcoholic misbehaviour in a court of law, i.e he's an alcoholic in my opinion. SAC_in_Warrington

6:08pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal.

Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc.

Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.
By this comment I would attest that your view is observed to be that some people can be persecuted or ridiculed for holding an obverse view.

"Moderate alcohol consumption will not generally cause any psychological or physical harm. However, for some individuals, social drinking eventually leads to heavier and heavier alcohol consumption, which does cause serious health and psychological problems.

Alcoholism in the UK - one in every 13 people in the United Kingdom is an alcoholic, according to the NHS (National Health Service) statistics. Even among people who are not dependent on alcohol, a sizeable proportion drink too much."
REF: http://www.medicalne
wstoday.com/articles
/157163.php
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal. Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc. Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.[/p][/quote]By this comment I would attest that your view is observed to be that some people can be persecuted or ridiculed for holding an obverse view. "Moderate alcohol consumption will not generally cause any psychological or physical harm. However, for some individuals, social drinking eventually leads to heavier and heavier alcohol consumption, which does cause serious health and psychological problems. Alcoholism in the UK - one in every 13 people in the United Kingdom is an alcoholic, according to the NHS (National Health Service) statistics. Even among people who are not dependent on alcohol, a sizeable proportion drink too much." REF: http://www.medicalne wstoday.com/articles /157163.php SAC_in_Warrington

6:08pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal.

Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc.

Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.
By this comment I would attest that your view is observed to be that some people can be persecuted or ridiculed for holding an obverse view.

"Moderate alcohol consumption will not generally cause any psychological or physical harm. However, for some individuals, social drinking eventually leads to heavier and heavier alcohol consumption, which does cause serious health and psychological problems.

Alcoholism in the UK - one in every 13 people in the United Kingdom is an alcoholic, according to the NHS (National Health Service) statistics. Even among people who are not dependent on alcohol, a sizeable proportion drink too much."
REF: http://www.medicalne
wstoday.com/articles
/157163.php
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal. Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc. Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.[/p][/quote]By this comment I would attest that your view is observed to be that some people can be persecuted or ridiculed for holding an obverse view. "Moderate alcohol consumption will not generally cause any psychological or physical harm. However, for some individuals, social drinking eventually leads to heavier and heavier alcohol consumption, which does cause serious health and psychological problems. Alcoholism in the UK - one in every 13 people in the United Kingdom is an alcoholic, according to the NHS (National Health Service) statistics. Even among people who are not dependent on alcohol, a sizeable proportion drink too much." REF: http://www.medicalne wstoday.com/articles /157163.php SAC_in_Warrington

6:14pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal.

Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc.

Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.
Sorry - that was aimed at SAC
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal. Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc. Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.[/p][/quote]Sorry - that was aimed at SAC Nick Tessla

6:15pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Ed0694 wrote:
Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day!
He has been reported and prosecuted for severe and possible life threatening alcoholic misbehaviour in a court of law, i.e he's an alcoholic in my opinion.
Not an alcoholic - I'd stick to theology if I were you.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ed0694[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day![/p][/quote]He has been reported and prosecuted for severe and possible life threatening alcoholic misbehaviour in a court of law, i.e he's an alcoholic in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Not an alcoholic - I'd stick to theology if I were you. Nick Tessla

6:16pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal.

Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc.

Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.
Sorry - that was aimed at SAC
I appreciate your apologetics.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal. Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc. Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.[/p][/quote]Sorry - that was aimed at SAC[/p][/quote]I appreciate your apologetics. SAC_in_Warrington

6:17pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone!
Still Grumpy
I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal.

Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc.

Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.
By this comment I would attest that your view is observed to be that some people can be persecuted or ridiculed for holding an obverse view.

"Moderate alcohol consumption will not generally cause any psychological or physical harm. However, for some individuals, social drinking eventually leads to heavier and heavier alcohol consumption, which does cause serious health and psychological problems.

Alcoholism in the UK - one in every 13 people in the United Kingdom is an alcoholic, according to the NHS (National Health Service) statistics. Even among people who are not dependent on alcohol, a sizeable proportion drink too much."
REF: http://www.medicalne

wstoday.com/articles

/157163.php
I'd ratyer see a link to the original report, assume g it exists, rather than a dodgy site.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: You rather drink or you drive you can not do both. If you drink regular then you should attempt not to drive. Alcohol will take 24hrs to leave your system even if you only have a few drinks at night it will still be in your system in the morning. Alcohol is probably one of the most addictive substances on the planet taken regular. Many people do no realise that they have an alcohol problem and choose to ignore the fact that they actually do. If you drink and drive you risk a manslaughter charge (if you cause a serious accident under the influence). It only takes a breathalyser and your life could literally be over and your families. be careful people who drink it can happen to anyone! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]I am well aware that you want everyone to be teetotal. Most people who do drink do son without being an alcoholic, or even damaging their health - moderate drinking can have health benefits. They also do so without drink-driving, being violent etc. Just as not everyone with faith would have drank the poison at Jonestown, or is a deluded fool with a messiah complex or an insufferable, self-righteous prig.[/p][/quote]By this comment I would attest that your view is observed to be that some people can be persecuted or ridiculed for holding an obverse view. "Moderate alcohol consumption will not generally cause any psychological or physical harm. However, for some individuals, social drinking eventually leads to heavier and heavier alcohol consumption, which does cause serious health and psychological problems. Alcoholism in the UK - one in every 13 people in the United Kingdom is an alcoholic, according to the NHS (National Health Service) statistics. Even among people who are not dependent on alcohol, a sizeable proportion drink too much." REF: http://www.medicalne wstoday.com/articles /157163.php[/p][/quote]I'd ratyer see a link to the original report, assume g it exists, rather than a dodgy site. Nick Tessla

6:17pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Ed0694 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Ed0694 wrote:
Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day!
He has been reported and prosecuted for severe and possible life threatening alcoholic misbehaviour in a court of law, i.e he's an alcoholic in my opinion.
Hahahahahhaha you are hilarious
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ed0694[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh how people are assuming this man is an alcoholic. So many people drink a lot every now and then and especially if it was his works party! He was Just silly to drive the next day! Deserves punishment and people should learn that it can happen to you even if you wake up feeling "ok" the next day![/p][/quote]He has been reported and prosecuted for severe and possible life threatening alcoholic misbehaviour in a court of law, i.e he's an alcoholic in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Hahahahahhaha you are hilarious Ed0694

6:22pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick, Consider this published definition:

"An alcoholic is a man or a woman who suffers from alcoholism - they have a distinct physical desire to consume alcohol beyond their capacity to control it, regardless of all rules of common sense."







REF:http://www.medic
alnewstoday.com/arti
cles/157163.php
Nick, Consider this published definition: "An alcoholic is a man or a woman who suffers from alcoholism - they have a distinct physical desire to consume alcohol beyond their capacity to control it, regardless of all rules of common sense." REF:http://www.medic alnewstoday.com/arti cles/157163.php SAC_in_Warrington

6:25pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Nick, Consider this published definition:

"An alcoholic is a man or a woman who suffers from alcoholism - they have a distinct physical desire to consume alcohol beyond their capacity to control it, regardless of all rules of common sense."







REF:http://www.medic

alnewstoday.com/arti

cles/157163.php
Same dodgy website - with no medical or other scientific authority.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: Nick, Consider this published definition: "An alcoholic is a man or a woman who suffers from alcoholism - they have a distinct physical desire to consume alcohol beyond their capacity to control it, regardless of all rules of common sense." REF:http://www.medic alnewstoday.com/arti cles/157163.php[/p][/quote]Same dodgy website - with no medical or other scientific authority. Nick Tessla

6:28pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

..and again no reason to believe the individual fits even your unauthoritative definition.
..and again no reason to believe the individual fits even your unauthoritative definition. Nick Tessla

6:46pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
..and again no reason to believe the individual fits even your unauthoritative definition.
In your opinion!
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: ..and again no reason to believe the individual fits even your unauthoritative definition.[/p][/quote]In your opinion! SAC_in_Warrington

7:14pm Wed 12 Feb 14

PageA says...

SAC does the 'S' in your nom de plume stand for Salvation?
SAC does the 'S' in your nom de plume stand for Salvation? PageA

8:55pm Wed 12 Feb 14

grey_man says...

Nah, it stands for sativa. SAC's idea is that if you go over the top every time some idiot does something stupid while drinking, it makes his case for the legalisation of cannabis stronger.

Personally I believe cannabis should be decriminalised and regulated. But SAC's strategy of throwing an unrelated issue into the argument just doesn't work.

If you want some real entertainment (zzzzzzz) wait until he invites some of his associated trolls to cut and paste 2,000 word comments from their personal stash of arguments for the legalisation of dope.
Nah, it stands for sativa. SAC's idea is that if you go over the top every time some idiot does something stupid while drinking, it makes his case for the legalisation of cannabis stronger. Personally I believe cannabis should be decriminalised and regulated. But SAC's strategy of throwing an unrelated issue into the argument just doesn't work. If you want some real entertainment (zzzzzzz) wait until he invites some of his associated trolls to cut and paste 2,000 word comments from their personal stash of arguments for the legalisation of dope. grey_man

9:13pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey_man wrote:
Nah, it stands for sativa. SAC's idea is that if you go over the top every time some idiot does something stupid while drinking, it makes his case for the legalisation of cannabis stronger.

Personally I believe cannabis should be decriminalised and regulated. But SAC's strategy of throwing an unrelated issue into the argument just doesn't work.

If you want some real entertainment (zzzzzzz) wait until he invites some of his associated trolls to cut and paste 2,000 word comments from their personal stash of arguments for the legalisation of dope.
These are you thoughts, actions and opinions not mine.
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: Nah, it stands for sativa. SAC's idea is that if you go over the top every time some idiot does something stupid while drinking, it makes his case for the legalisation of cannabis stronger. Personally I believe cannabis should be decriminalised and regulated. But SAC's strategy of throwing an unrelated issue into the argument just doesn't work. If you want some real entertainment (zzzzzzz) wait until he invites some of his associated trolls to cut and paste 2,000 word comments from their personal stash of arguments for the legalisation of dope.[/p][/quote]These are you thoughts, actions and opinions not mine. SAC_in_Warrington

9:15pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

PageA wrote:
SAC does the 'S' in your nom de plume stand for Salvation?
No it sure does not.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: SAC does the 'S' in your nom de plume stand for Salvation?[/p][/quote]No it sure does not. SAC_in_Warrington

9:18pm Wed 12 Feb 14

PageA says...

grey_man wrote:
Nah, it stands for sativa. SAC's idea is that if you go over the top every time some idiot does something stupid while drinking, it makes his case for the legalisation of cannabis stronger.

Personally I believe cannabis should be decriminalised and regulated. But SAC's strategy of throwing an unrelated issue into the argument just doesn't work.

If you want some real entertainment (zzzzzzz) wait until he invites some of his associated trolls to cut and paste 2,000 word comments from their personal stash of arguments for the legalisation of dope.
I wondered if it was Salvation Army Captain. If it is then I've no doubt he's seen the perils of drink. Personally I believe that legalising cannabis would be a disaster and I'm happy where it is. Horrible, sh***y, snivelling little substance that robs young men of motivation and turned me into a fat bas**** with an inability to dream or remember emotions...sorry I digress. Dont do it kids, it's not what they say. Misery loves company, stay sharp, fit and healthy
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: Nah, it stands for sativa. SAC's idea is that if you go over the top every time some idiot does something stupid while drinking, it makes his case for the legalisation of cannabis stronger. Personally I believe cannabis should be decriminalised and regulated. But SAC's strategy of throwing an unrelated issue into the argument just doesn't work. If you want some real entertainment (zzzzzzz) wait until he invites some of his associated trolls to cut and paste 2,000 word comments from their personal stash of arguments for the legalisation of dope.[/p][/quote]I wondered if it was Salvation Army Captain. If it is then I've no doubt he's seen the perils of drink. Personally I believe that legalising cannabis would be a disaster and I'm happy where it is. Horrible, sh***y, snivelling little substance that robs young men of motivation and turned me into a fat bas**** with an inability to dream or remember emotions...sorry I digress. Dont do it kids, it's not what they say. Misery loves company, stay sharp, fit and healthy PageA

10:02pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly. SAC_in_Warrington

10:14pm Wed 12 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

wot "SAD" lives some lead !!!!! "COMMENTING" RUBBISH !
wot "SAD" lives some lead !!!!! "COMMENTING" RUBBISH ! MAD 4 IT

10:21pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

MAD 4 IT wrote:
wot "SAD" lives some lead !!!!! "COMMENTING" RUBBISH !
Don't worry about it my dear, we will still tolerate your obtuse comments until you can comment no more, and are able to Rest In Peace, so to speak.
[quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: wot "SAD" lives some lead !!!!! "COMMENTING" RUBBISH ![/p][/quote]Don't worry about it my dear, we will still tolerate your obtuse comments until you can comment no more, and are able to Rest In Peace, so to speak. SAC_in_Warrington

10:37pm Wed 12 Feb 14

PageA says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army? PageA

10:51pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.

To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know. SAC_in_Warrington

11:45pm Wed 12 Feb 14

PageA says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.

To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.
No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.[/p][/quote]No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army? PageA

11:54pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.

To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.
No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?
In my Opinion you are still perfectly describe an alcoholic male, misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.[/p][/quote]No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]In my Opinion you are still perfectly describe an alcoholic male, misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. SAC_in_Warrington

8:14am Thu 13 Feb 14

PageA says...

I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese. PageA

9:01am Thu 13 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

Headline from the Morning

"Police raid Grappenhall home looking for cannabis"




They must have had a severe hankering for a toke.


:-)
Headline from the Morning "Police raid Grappenhall home looking for cannabis" They must have had a severe hankering for a toke. :-) Nick Tessla

9:02am Thu 13 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

Headline from this morning

"Police raid Grappenhall home looking for cannabis"




They must have had a severe hankering for a toke.


:-)
Headline from this morning "Police raid Grappenhall home looking for cannabis" They must have had a severe hankering for a toke. :-) Nick Tessla

10:08am Thu 13 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

MAD 4 IT wrote:
wot "SAD" lives some lead !!!!! "COMMENTING" RUBBISH !
NO COMMENT!
[quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: wot "SAD" lives some lead !!!!! "COMMENTING" RUBBISH ![/p][/quote]NO COMMENT! GRUMPY PARENT

12:25pm Thu 13 Feb 14

tojahejome says...

I am not dfernding the action of this young man, but I would stress the importance of not driving after you have had a lot of alcohol the previous night.
I am not dfernding the action of this young man, but I would stress the importance of not driving after you have had a lot of alcohol the previous night. tojahejome

3:37pm Thu 13 Feb 14

moleogod says...

*he said... typo was angry when typing that comment.
*he said... typo was angry when typing that comment. moleogod

7:28pm Thu 13 Feb 14

moleogod says...

oh voting my comments down yep this drunk driver looser is on this page commenting hi TOM
oh voting my comments down yep this drunk driver looser is on this page commenting hi TOM moleogod

7:45pm Thu 13 Feb 14

moleogod says...

just waiting for Warrington Guardian to remove all these comments now. as they do not allow a healthy debate
just waiting for Warrington Guardian to remove all these comments now. as they do not allow a healthy debate moleogod

10:11pm Thu 13 Feb 14

old-codger says...

He was stopped by police on Knutsford Road at 6.30am on January 5 after officers noticed he was using fog lights when they were not needed.


You can see drivers with fog lights on 200 times a day on winwick road, Its a fixed penalty £20 fine but the police are too bone idle to enforce it.
He was stopped by police on Knutsford Road at 6.30am on January 5 after officers noticed he was using fog lights when they were not needed. You can see drivers with fog lights on 200 times a day on winwick road, Its a fixed penalty £20 fine but the police are too bone idle to enforce it. old-codger

9:14am Fri 14 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly... Freeborn John

6:37pm Fri 14 Feb 14

fedster says...

PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.

To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.
No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?
If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous.




bit like you when some one says something negative about migration ???
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.[/p][/quote]No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. bit like you when some one says something negative about migration ??? fedster

9:41pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Eldune says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.

To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.
No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?
In my Opinion you are still perfectly describe an alcoholic male, misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.
That may well be so, but your opinion is largely irrelevant. There is nothing in the article to suggest that the person is alcoholic, or alcohol dependent to be a bit more precise. Which, as the name implies is a dependence on alcohol - an addiction, with cravings and withdrawal symptoms if the cravings are not satisfied.The chap may have subjected himself to alcohol abuse, but that is very different to alcohol dependence.
The fact that you have experience of dealing with individuals who have problems with alcohol do not automatically make you an authority on the subject. It is entirely possible that it gives you a skewed outlook, in that you only come into contact with those for whom alcohol is a problem, but keeps you away from the VAST majority for whom the consumption of alcohol is just a responsible, pleasurable experience, without any problems, either physically, medically, or mentally.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.[/p][/quote]No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]In my Opinion you are still perfectly describe an alcoholic male, misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.[/p][/quote]That may well be so, but your opinion is largely irrelevant. There is nothing in the article to suggest that the person is alcoholic, or alcohol dependent to be a bit more precise. Which, as the name implies is a dependence on alcohol - an addiction, with cravings and withdrawal symptoms if the cravings are not satisfied.The chap may have subjected himself to alcohol abuse, but that is very different to alcohol dependence. The fact that you have experience of dealing with individuals who have problems with alcohol do not automatically make you an authority on the subject. It is entirely possible that it gives you a skewed outlook, in that you only come into contact with those for whom alcohol is a problem, but keeps you away from the VAST majority for whom the consumption of alcohol is just a responsible, pleasurable experience, without any problems, either physically, medically, or mentally. Eldune

10:21pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

There aren't many 20 year old alcoholics, but there are plenty of 20 year old throbbers who decide to risk it at half six on a Sunday morning.
Though few of them are stoopid enough to drive around town with their fog lights on, what a guy...
There aren't many 20 year old alcoholics, but there are plenty of 20 year old throbbers who decide to risk it at half six on a Sunday morning. Though few of them are stoopid enough to drive around town with their fog lights on, what a guy... Freeborn John

8:58am Sun 16 Feb 14

PageA says...

fedster wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
PageA wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.
Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?
You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated.

To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.
No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?
If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous.




bit like you when some one says something negative about migration ???
Not at all..more like you when you when you pass comment on a whole nation or ethnic group based upon the criminal activity of an individual who happens to be from that nation or ethnic group. That makes you more than ridiculous it makes You a racist.
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: My nome de plume is relevant to my comments and you are all wrong with your guesses and assumptions. I think that you maybe have exhausted your views on the drunken driver who was caught attempting to drive a car irresponsibly.[/p][/quote]Young man makes big mistake..Ignorance regarding residual alcohol in bloodstream morning after the night before. A lesson for him and everyone and luckily no one was injured or killed. So you're not current or ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]You perfectly describe an alcoholic misbehaving responsibly while excessively over inebriated. To satisfy your curiosity about my personal beliefs I am willing to say that I have worked as a volunteer for the National Temperance League (NTL) and Hope UK if you really must know.[/p][/quote]No. I'm describing a 20 year old man who made a big mistake that he hopefully won't repeat. If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. I've no doubt you could argue the technicalities all night long but it doesn't make it any more rational. So you're not willing to say that you either work for or are ex Salvation Army?[/p][/quote]If you class everyone who partakes as being an alcoholic it diminishes the term and makes you look a little ridiculous. bit like you when some one says something negative about migration ???[/p][/quote]Not at all..more like you when you when you pass comment on a whole nation or ethnic group based upon the criminal activity of an individual who happens to be from that nation or ethnic group. That makes you more than ridiculous it makes You a racist. PageA

9:09am Sun 16 Feb 14

PageA says...

Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...
Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...[/p][/quote]Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion PageA

1:48pm Sun 16 Feb 14

fedster says...

lmfao you love the word racist dont you pagey


the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life


in fact the word racist is being over used these days the Norwegian government has taken this new policy up and i think we should


In Norway, the word "race" has been removed from national laws concerning discrimination as the use of the phrase is considered problematic and unethical. The Norwegian Anti-Discrimination Act bans discrimation based on ethnicity, national origin, descent and skin colour



as iam sick and tired of hearing the word racist when someone wants to get their own way.

its over used in the social, job center, police station, courts.
lmfao you love the word racist dont you pagey the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life in fact the word racist is being over used these days the Norwegian government has taken this new policy up and i think we should In Norway, the word "race" has been removed from national laws concerning discrimination as the use of the phrase is considered problematic and unethical.[27][28] The Norwegian Anti-Discrimination Act bans discrimation based on ethnicity, national origin, descent and skin colour as iam sick and tired of hearing the word racist when someone wants to get their own way. its over used in the social, job center, police station, courts. fedster

2:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...
Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion
My friend, you don't realise what you're messing with.
Somebody offered me a bit of mild cheddar at a party and before I knew it I was doing 100 grammes of garlic Lancashire a night...
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...[/p][/quote]Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion[/p][/quote]My friend, you don't realise what you're messing with. Somebody offered me a bit of mild cheddar at a party and before I knew it I was doing 100 grammes of garlic Lancashire a night... Freeborn John

2:12pm Sun 16 Feb 14

PageA says...

fedster wrote:
lmfao you love the word racist dont you pagey


the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life


in fact the word racist is being over used these days the Norwegian government has taken this new policy up and i think we should


In Norway, the word "race" has been removed from national laws concerning discrimination as the use of the phrase is considered problematic and unethical. The Norwegian Anti-Discrimination Act bans discrimation based on ethnicity, national origin, descent and skin colour



as iam sick and tired of hearing the word racist when someone wants to get their own way.

its over used in the social, job center, police station, courts.
Haha! By all means if it offends you..take it out of the dictionary too. May I suggest that you remove all the mirrors in your house, that way you'll resemble Johnny Depp
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: lmfao you love the word racist dont you pagey the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life in fact the word racist is being over used these days the Norwegian government has taken this new policy up and i think we should In Norway, the word "race" has been removed from national laws concerning discrimination as the use of the phrase is considered problematic and unethical.[27][28] The Norwegian Anti-Discrimination Act bans discrimation based on ethnicity, national origin, descent and skin colour as iam sick and tired of hearing the word racist when someone wants to get their own way. its over used in the social, job center, police station, courts.[/p][/quote]Haha! By all means if it offends you..take it out of the dictionary too. May I suggest that you remove all the mirrors in your house, that way you'll resemble Johnny Depp PageA

8:09pm Sun 16 Feb 14

PageA says...

Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...
Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion
My friend, you don't realise what you're messing with.
Somebody offered me a bit of mild cheddar at a party and before I knew it I was doing 100 grammes of garlic Lancashire a night...
What next..A council pamphlet warning that cheddar is just as strong as gruyere. I'll be protesting on the Town Hall lawn with a full box of Ritz biscuits
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...[/p][/quote]Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion[/p][/quote]My friend, you don't realise what you're messing with. Somebody offered me a bit of mild cheddar at a party and before I knew it I was doing 100 grammes of garlic Lancashire a night...[/p][/quote]What next..A council pamphlet warning that cheddar is just as strong as gruyere. I'll be protesting on the Town Hall lawn with a full box of Ritz biscuits PageA

9:14pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...
Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion
My friend, you don't realise what you're messing with.
Somebody offered me a bit of mild cheddar at a party and before I knew it I was doing 100 grammes of garlic Lancashire a night...
What next..A council pamphlet warning that cheddar is just as strong as gruyere. I'll be protesting on the Town Hall lawn with a full box of Ritz biscuits
I see what you did there...
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]Pagey, you should have stuck to dope, the cheese just makes you silly...[/p][/quote]Oh no, those days have long gone. Cheese is the future..unless it's not cheese in which case, keep well away from your mouth..in my opinion[/p][/quote]My friend, you don't realise what you're messing with. Somebody offered me a bit of mild cheddar at a party and before I knew it I was doing 100 grammes of garlic Lancashire a night...[/p][/quote]What next..A council pamphlet warning that cheddar is just as strong as gruyere. I'll be protesting on the Town Hall lawn with a full box of Ritz biscuits[/p][/quote]I see what you did there... Freeborn John

10:30pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
What the h*ll have I been eating? Tastes a bit like cheese though.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]What the h*ll have I been eating? Tastes a bit like cheese though. grey-area

8:04am Mon 17 Feb 14

dannyb210 says...

the lad has made a mistake and he is being made to pay for it by the courts.

he is only young so probably didnt realise that the alcohol will still be in his system the next day.

There is no need for this witch hunt in these comments, having a few drinks at a party doesnt make you an alcoholic. Maybe SAC should google the word "alcoholic" before making silly accusations......... the young lad could get you for slander you know.
the lad has made a mistake and he is being made to pay for it by the courts. he is only young so probably didnt realise that the alcohol will still be in his system the next day. There is no need for this witch hunt in these comments, having a few drinks at a party doesnt make you an alcoholic. Maybe SAC should google the word "alcoholic" before making silly accusations......... the young lad could get you for slander you know. dannyb210

9:14am Mon 17 Feb 14

PageA says...

dannyb210 wrote:
the lad has made a mistake and he is being made to pay for it by the courts.

he is only young so probably didnt realise that the alcohol will still be in his system the next day.

There is no need for this witch hunt in these comments, having a few drinks at a party doesnt make you an alcoholic. Maybe SAC should google the word "alcoholic" before making silly accusations......... the young lad could get you for slander you know.
I agree Danny, everyone makes mistakes.
Slander is spoken word..Libel is written
[quote][p][bold]dannyb210[/bold] wrote: the lad has made a mistake and he is being made to pay for it by the courts. he is only young so probably didnt realise that the alcohol will still be in his system the next day. There is no need for this witch hunt in these comments, having a few drinks at a party doesnt make you an alcoholic. Maybe SAC should google the word "alcoholic" before making silly accusations......... the young lad could get you for slander you know.[/p][/quote]I agree Danny, everyone makes mistakes. Slander is spoken word..Libel is written PageA

4:35pm Mon 17 Feb 14

tarasmum says...

PageA wrote:
I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.
What is it then ??????
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: I learnt from an early age..just because something looks like cheese...and smells like cheese...it doesn't mean it is cheese.[/p][/quote]What is it then ?????? tarasmum

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