More than 1,000 TV licence dodgers in Warrington

MORE than 1,000 people were caught watching TV without a licence in Warrington during 2012 according to TV Licensing.

This compares to more than 7,600 in Manchester, more than 1,200 in St Helens and more than 1,200 in Wigan.

The average evasion rate remains at a low of just over five per cent, meaning almost 95 per cent of homes are correctly licensed.

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7:09pm Thu 21 Feb 13

old-codger says...

There will be thousands more after aprils squeeze by the government..
Working people will be struggling as well the disabled and unemployed..
There will be thousands more after aprils squeeze by the government.. Working people will be struggling as well the disabled and unemployed.. old-codger
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10:16pm Thu 21 Feb 13

annie1275 says...

Won't be the only thing that won't get paid..Wait until they start paying the housing benefit to the claimant instead of the landlord..There will either be a lot of councils/landlords whistling for their money,or the eviction rate will go through the roof....Useless, brainless government.
Won't be the only thing that won't get paid..Wait until they start paying the housing benefit to the claimant instead of the landlord..There will either be a lot of councils/landlords whistling for their money,or the eviction rate will go through the roof....Useless, brainless government. annie1275
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10:16pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Freeborn John says...

Let's have it right, it's not a TV licence, it's a BBC licence.
The BBC has held us all to ransom long enough, pull the plug on it.
Let's have it right, it's not a TV licence, it's a BBC licence. The BBC has held us all to ransom long enough, pull the plug on it. Freeborn John
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10:43pm Thu 21 Feb 13

aussie eddie says...

wow you still got tv licence in the uk can some one please post one on here i have forgoten what they look like i recon it cost more to track people down than they get back
wow you still got tv licence in the uk can some one please post one on here i have forgoten what they look like i recon it cost more to track people down than they get back aussie eddie
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11:31pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Casual Postman of Orford says...

This country is knackered and will only get worse until 2015...
This country is knackered and will only get worse until 2015... Casual Postman of Orford
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8:21am Fri 22 Feb 13

Melonfish says...

rename your wifi connection to "Tv Detector Van" and you'll soon see people darting out to get a license.
rename your wifi connection to "Tv Detector Van" and you'll soon see people darting out to get a license. Melonfish
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9:43am Fri 22 Feb 13

old-codger says...

Casual Postman of Orford says...
11:31pm Thu 21 Feb 13
This country is knackered and will only get worse until 2015...”

Well said postie, Then we will have our revenge on this bunch of part time t.... and get back to reallity.
Casual Postman of Orford says... 11:31pm Thu 21 Feb 13 This country is knackered and will only get worse until 2015...” Well said postie, Then we will have our revenge on this bunch of part time t.... and get back to reallity. old-codger
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9:47am Fri 22 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Whatever its imperfections , the BBC is something we should be proud of.


Compare the quality of documentary making with the likes of the Discovery Channel or when it comes to news have a gander at Fox News (Goebbels would have blushed to be so biased)


Held to ransom by the BBC - no just paying for an alternative to the likes of Rupert Murdoch. You may as well say that paying for the NHS holds you to ransom as you'd rather everyone had to pay for private medicine.
Whatever its imperfections , the BBC is something we should be proud of. Compare the quality of documentary making with the likes of the Discovery Channel or when it comes to news have a gander at Fox News (Goebbels would have blushed to be so biased) Held to ransom by the BBC - no just paying for an alternative to the likes of Rupert Murdoch. You may as well say that paying for the NHS holds you to ransom as you'd rather everyone had to pay for private medicine. Nick Tessla
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10:44am Fri 22 Feb 13

Freeborn John says...

When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none.
As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.
When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none. As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom. Freeborn John
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10:53am Fri 22 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Freeborn John wrote:
When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none.
As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.
Do I hear the sound of cups clinking - are you having a tea party Johnny?


:-)
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none. As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.[/p][/quote]Do I hear the sound of cups clinking - are you having a tea party Johnny? :-) Nick Tessla
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11:34am Fri 22 Feb 13

Budda88 says...

Melonfish wrote:
rename your wifi connection to "Tv Detector Van" and you'll soon see people darting out to get a license.
HAHAHA that has tickled me, out of curiosity i think i will do that whilst sat on the street seeing how many of my neighbours start curtain twitching!
[quote][p][bold]Melonfish[/bold] wrote: rename your wifi connection to "Tv Detector Van" and you'll soon see people darting out to get a license.[/p][/quote]HAHAHA that has tickled me, out of curiosity i think i will do that whilst sat on the street seeing how many of my neighbours start curtain twitching! Budda88
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2:54pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Mr Andrew Mackie says...

Mr Budda88, It's too bloody cold to be sat on the street, I can't wait till it's summer ! I haven't got neighbours, i live in a tent !
Mr Budda88, It's too bloody cold to be sat on the street, I can't wait till it's summer ! I haven't got neighbours, i live in a tent ! Mr Andrew Mackie
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6:11pm Fri 22 Feb 13

richiepooh says...

TV license is a scam, a monopoly and a tax, Bugger to the BBC, most people recieve through digital subscription now days so they pay twice once to the bbc once to sky or virgin, for what? channels they may only watch once a week for a couple of hours, Im happy to pay for BBC if I have the option to unsubscribe...but I dont! Scam Scam Scam...it's outdated, immoral and wrong.
and if it only pays for the BBC then why is there a tax funded TV licensing department set up to manage it? because its a TAX nothing more nothing less.
TV license is a scam, a monopoly and a tax, Bugger to the BBC, most people recieve through digital subscription now days so they pay twice once to the bbc once to sky or virgin, for what? channels they may only watch once a week for a couple of hours, Im happy to pay for BBC if I have the option to unsubscribe...but I dont! Scam Scam Scam...it's outdated, immoral and wrong. and if it only pays for the BBC then why is there a tax funded TV licensing department set up to manage it? because its a TAX nothing more nothing less. richiepooh
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10:34pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Knowmenot says...

And I suppose all of you who have Sky TV don't bother to worry about the cost. Yet I bet it is you (Sky viewers) who are complaining. Us poor people who can only get Freeview and Freesat are quids in only having to pay for a TV licence. You get what you pay for Sky mugs.
And I suppose all of you who have Sky TV don't bother to worry about the cost. Yet I bet it is you (Sky viewers) who are complaining. Us poor people who can only get Freeview and Freesat are quids in only having to pay for a TV licence. You get what you pay for Sky mugs. Knowmenot
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5:59am Sat 23 Feb 13

MikeJT says...

I wonder how many of these "evaders" were actually people who were caught out due to "ignorance"/"confusi
on" over the actual licencing system.

Only ever watch "catchup TV" but have an aerial capable of receiving BBC...you fail. Have an aerial and ALL your TV(s) are set to commercial TV channels......you fail

The licence should be scrapped and the BBC should operate as a normal "business". Yes, its documentaries are sometimes good ...and these are sold around the world to other networks BUT one of the BBCs own arguments for the licence was they it allowed it to make "diverse" TV ....................
...they it goes and cancels a whole load of program developments aimed at exactly this market because it has no money.

Make it stand on its own two feet and stop all the wastage.........but whilst it has a guaranteed stream of income it never will.
I wonder how many of these "evaders" were actually people who were caught out due to "ignorance"/"confusi on" over the actual licencing system. Only ever watch "catchup TV" but have an aerial capable of receiving BBC...you fail. Have an aerial and ALL your TV(s) are set to commercial TV channels......you fail The licence should be scrapped and the BBC should operate as a normal "business". Yes, its documentaries are sometimes good ...and these are sold around the world to other networks BUT one of the BBCs own arguments for the licence was they it allowed it to make "diverse" TV .................... ...they it goes and cancels a whole load of program developments aimed at exactly this market because it has no money. Make it stand on its own two feet and stop all the wastage.........but whilst it has a guaranteed stream of income it never will. MikeJT
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8:30am Sat 23 Feb 13

Freeborn John says...

Knowmenot wrote:
And I suppose all of you who have Sky TV don't bother to worry about the cost. Yet I bet it is you (Sky viewers) who are complaining. Us poor people who can only get Freeview and Freesat are quids in only having to pay for a TV licence. You get what you pay for Sky mugs.
Well if you weren't having to stump up £145.50 to luvvie TV before you even turn your set on you might be able to afford an alternative service and throw the freeview box out.
[quote][p][bold]Knowmenot[/bold] wrote: And I suppose all of you who have Sky TV don't bother to worry about the cost. Yet I bet it is you (Sky viewers) who are complaining. Us poor people who can only get Freeview and Freesat are quids in only having to pay for a TV licence. You get what you pay for Sky mugs.[/p][/quote]Well if you weren't having to stump up £145.50 to luvvie TV before you even turn your set on you might be able to afford an alternative service and throw the freeview box out. Freeborn John
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7:54pm Sat 23 Feb 13

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Go for a black and white TV, that licence is much cheaper, and they also have boxes available for freeview on old TV sets. At least you don't now need a licence or your Radio or a dog as in times gone by. Therefore TV licences may follow this rout sometime in the future.
Go for a black and white TV, that licence is much cheaper, and they also have boxes available for freeview on old TV sets. At least you don't now need a licence or your Radio or a dog as in times gone by. Therefore TV licences may follow this rout sometime in the future. SAC_in_Warrington
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9:57pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Knowmenot says...

Freeborn John wrote:
When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none.
As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.
Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none. As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.[/p][/quote]Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free. Knowmenot
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2:08am Sun 24 Feb 13

Billy Porter says...

"MORE than 1,000 people were caught watching TV without a licence in Warrington during 2012 according to TV Licensing."

According to me, this is ****.
"MORE than 1,000 people were caught watching TV without a licence in Warrington during 2012 according to TV Licensing." According to me, this is ****. Billy Porter
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6:48am Sun 24 Feb 13

MikeJT says...

Billy Porter wrote:
"MORE than 1,000 people were caught watching TV without a licence in Warrington during 2012 according to TV Licensing."

According to me, this is ****.
What i think is **** are either the stats or the way the article is written. 1000 PEOPLE should probably by 1000 HOMES and if this makes up 5% then Warrington has 20,000 homes...............
.............. for 202,000 residents ? Are we going back to the days of overcrowded poor housing. Maybe that workhouse theory has actually come to pass.
[quote][p][bold]Billy Porter[/bold] wrote: "MORE than 1,000 people were caught watching TV without a licence in Warrington during 2012 according to TV Licensing." According to me, this is ****.[/p][/quote]What i think is **** are either the stats or the way the article is written. 1000 PEOPLE should probably by 1000 HOMES and if this makes up 5% then Warrington has 20,000 homes............... .............. for 202,000 residents ? Are we going back to the days of overcrowded poor housing. Maybe that workhouse theory has actually come to pass. MikeJT
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3:39pm Sun 24 Feb 13

kazz32 says...

it does not say how many were caught without b/w licence.ha ha.
it does not say how many were caught without b/w licence.ha ha. kazz32
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12:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Freeborn John says...

Knowmenot wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none.
As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.
Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.
Can I recommend 'Correct English' by Metcalfe and Astle, 99p out of the bargain bin in that bookshop by the entrance to the Golden Square.
At that money even being a pov is no excuse for not being able to scan basic English.
And if you can't grasp if the BBC leans to the left or to the right with it's political agenda then ask them if they've got a political primer suitable for 8 to 10 year olds while you're there.
[quote][p][bold]Knowmenot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none. As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.[/p][/quote]Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.[/p][/quote]Can I recommend 'Correct English' by Metcalfe and Astle, 99p out of the bargain bin in that bookshop by the entrance to the Golden Square. At that money even being a pov is no excuse for not being able to scan basic English. And if you can't grasp if the BBC leans to the left or to the right with it's political agenda then ask them if they've got a political primer suitable for 8 to 10 year olds while you're there. Freeborn John
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12:59pm Mon 25 Feb 13

SAC_in_Warrington says...

I personally don't think that a TV is essential in a home, and is an unnecessary and an uneconomic burden to quite a few people, however it can become habit forming and hard to quit like alcohol and tobacco or herbal cannabis smoking.
I personally don't think that a TV is essential in a home, and is an unnecessary and an uneconomic burden to quite a few people, however it can become habit forming and hard to quit like alcohol and tobacco or herbal cannabis smoking. SAC_in_Warrington
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1:39pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Freeborn John wrote:
Knowmenot wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none.
As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.
Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.
Can I recommend 'Correct English' by Metcalfe and Astle, 99p out of the bargain bin in that bookshop by the entrance to the Golden Square.
At that money even being a pov is no excuse for not being able to scan basic English.
And if you can't grasp if the BBC leans to the left or to the right with it's political agenda then ask them if they've got a political primer suitable for 8 to 10 year olds while you're there.
Your first paragraph should end with a question mark and you should not begin a sentence with "and".
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knowmenot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none. As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.[/p][/quote]Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.[/p][/quote]Can I recommend 'Correct English' by Metcalfe and Astle, 99p out of the bargain bin in that bookshop by the entrance to the Golden Square. At that money even being a pov is no excuse for not being able to scan basic English. And if you can't grasp if the BBC leans to the left or to the right with it's political agenda then ask them if they've got a political primer suitable for 8 to 10 year olds while you're there.[/p][/quote]Your first paragraph should end with a question mark and you should not begin a sentence with "and". Nick Tessla
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3:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Freeborn John says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
Knowmenot wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none.
As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.
Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.
Can I recommend 'Correct English' by Metcalfe and Astle, 99p out of the bargain bin in that bookshop by the entrance to the Golden Square.
At that money even being a pov is no excuse for not being able to scan basic English.
And if you can't grasp if the BBC leans to the left or to the right with it's political agenda then ask them if they've got a political primer suitable for 8 to 10 year olds while you're there.
Your first paragraph should end with a question mark and you should not begin a sentence with "and".
I did indeed omit a question mark, on the mistaken grounds that since the sentence was a request which was delivered in the form of a question, it was unnecessary.
Well, you don't get much for 99p...
However, it is perfectly in order to start a simple sentence with the conjunction 'and'.
Why not pop down to that bookshop yourself?
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knowmenot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: When it comes to propaganda the organisations leftist agenda stands second to none. As far as every TV owning household in the country being charged for a service which they may neither use, ask for nor want, under threat of criminal prosecution, I probably would call that being held to ransom.[/p][/quote]Which they may "neither use" what sort of english is that? Leftis or rightish agenda? Is this political because no party will abolish the TV licence fee. Go on John "freeborn" listen to the radio which is licence free, close your eyes and wonder.... OR GET SKY for a HUGE fee...You may get a free film each month. Here's hoping Johnny Free.[/p][/quote]Can I recommend 'Correct English' by Metcalfe and Astle, 99p out of the bargain bin in that bookshop by the entrance to the Golden Square. At that money even being a pov is no excuse for not being able to scan basic English. And if you can't grasp if the BBC leans to the left or to the right with it's political agenda then ask them if they've got a political primer suitable for 8 to 10 year olds while you're there.[/p][/quote]Your first paragraph should end with a question mark and you should not begin a sentence with "and".[/p][/quote]I did indeed omit a question mark, on the mistaken grounds that since the sentence was a request which was delivered in the form of a question, it was unnecessary. Well, you don't get much for 99p... However, it is perfectly in order to start a simple sentence with the conjunction 'and'. Why not pop down to that bookshop yourself? Freeborn John
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3:55pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Well when I was taught grammar, it was not in order to use a conjunction to start a sentence.


If you are going to start laying fast and loose then , I humbly suggest, you stop lecturing other people.


A redneck goes to Harvard and asks a passing Don, "Where is the library at ?"


"My dear fellow, at Harvard we do not end a sentence with a preposition"


"Fine. Where is the library at *** hole?"
Well when I was taught grammar, it was not in order to use a conjunction to start a sentence. If you are going to start laying fast and loose then , I humbly suggest, you stop lecturing other people. A redneck goes to Harvard and asks a passing Don, "Where is the library at ?" "My dear fellow, at Harvard we do not end a sentence with a preposition" "Fine. Where is the library at *** hole?" Nick Tessla
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5:04pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Freeborn John says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Well when I was taught grammar, it was not in order to use a conjunction to start a sentence.


If you are going to start laying fast and loose then , I humbly suggest, you stop lecturing other people.


A redneck goes to Harvard and asks a passing Don, "Where is the library at ?"


"My dear fellow, at Harvard we do not end a sentence with a preposition"


"Fine. Where is the library at *** hole?"
That's tickled me.
In fairness, there are only two conjunctions with which one can start a simple sentence, they are 'And' and 'But'.
I thought you might have known that, what with that fancy edumication 'n all.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: Well when I was taught grammar, it was not in order to use a conjunction to start a sentence. If you are going to start laying fast and loose then , I humbly suggest, you stop lecturing other people. A redneck goes to Harvard and asks a passing Don, "Where is the library at ?" "My dear fellow, at Harvard we do not end a sentence with a preposition" "Fine. Where is the library at *** hole?"[/p][/quote]That's tickled me. In fairness, there are only two conjunctions with which one can start a simple sentence, they are 'And' and 'But'. I thought you might have known that, what with that fancy edumication 'n all. Freeborn John
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5:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13

grey_man says...

John

You're on the wrong website mate.

http://ifyoulikeitso
muchwhydontyougolive
there.com/
John You're on the wrong website mate. http://ifyoulikeitso muchwhydontyougolive there.com/ grey_man
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9:27am Tue 26 Feb 13

stupot0041 says...

When I was a kid we had black and white dog because the license was much cheaper than for a labrador.
When I was a kid we had black and white dog because the license was much cheaper than for a labrador. stupot0041
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10:05am Tue 26 Feb 13

Sankey says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Whatever its imperfections , the BBC is something we should be proud of.


Compare the quality of documentary making with the likes of the Discovery Channel or when it comes to news have a gander at Fox News (Goebbels would have blushed to be so biased)


Held to ransom by the BBC - no just paying for an alternative to the likes of Rupert Murdoch. You may as well say that paying for the NHS holds you to ransom as you'd rather everyone had to pay for private medicine.
What nonsense the documentaries are made by freelancers not bbc employees. The bbc just commissions them on short term projects and the individuals are the same people who work on discovery where their next contract coud be. And actually I think national geographic and discovery are very good. As for comparing it to the NHS that is ridiculous. The BBC is one other TV channel it was a good idea in the 1940's but it is ridiculous it survives today and you need to buy a licence to own an electrical appliance. Most people these days have cable satellite or freeview. The other thing about the bbc is it continually breaks it charter on political impartiality. The bbc has to go or compete with other channels on. Commercial basis and the mandatory TV licence should be scrapped. If you love the bbc so much then fine you pay for it but don't force the rest of us too.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: Whatever its imperfections , the BBC is something we should be proud of. Compare the quality of documentary making with the likes of the Discovery Channel or when it comes to news have a gander at Fox News (Goebbels would have blushed to be so biased) Held to ransom by the BBC - no just paying for an alternative to the likes of Rupert Murdoch. You may as well say that paying for the NHS holds you to ransom as you'd rather everyone had to pay for private medicine.[/p][/quote]What nonsense the documentaries are made by freelancers not bbc employees. The bbc just commissions them on short term projects and the individuals are the same people who work on discovery where their next contract coud be. And actually I think national geographic and discovery are very good. As for comparing it to the NHS that is ridiculous. The BBC is one other TV channel it was a good idea in the 1940's but it is ridiculous it survives today and you need to buy a licence to own an electrical appliance. Most people these days have cable satellite or freeview. The other thing about the bbc is it continually breaks it charter on political impartiality. The bbc has to go or compete with other channels on. Commercial basis and the mandatory TV licence should be scrapped. If you love the bbc so much then fine you pay for it but don't force the rest of us too. Sankey
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10:08am Tue 26 Feb 13

Sankey says...

And even if those documentaries were better which in my view they most certainly are not then how does that justify forcing us to pay for them?

What if you don't like nature documentaries ?
And even if those documentaries were better which in my view they most certainly are not then how does that justify forcing us to pay for them? What if you don't like nature documentaries ? Sankey
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10:23am Tue 26 Feb 13

SAC_in_Warrington says...

It is a contemporary taxation and provides an income for the current and each successive government. In rescinding the obligation to purchase a Television (reception) Licence, I am fairly sure that one or more alternative income source would undoubtedly be generated and may also be equally considered by some people to be absurd. The BBC is still part of the British and its Commonwealth culture, and I expect that it will take quite a long time to be disestablished.
It is a contemporary taxation and provides an income for the current and each successive government. In rescinding the obligation to purchase a Television (reception) Licence, I am fairly sure that one or more alternative income source would undoubtedly be generated and may also be equally considered by some people to be absurd. The BBC is still part of the British and its Commonwealth culture, and I expect that it will take quite a long time to be disestablished. SAC_in_Warrington
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11:01am Tue 26 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Sankey wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Whatever its imperfections , the BBC is something we should be proud of.


Compare the quality of documentary making with the likes of the Discovery Channel or when it comes to news have a gander at Fox News (Goebbels would have blushed to be so biased)


Held to ransom by the BBC - no just paying for an alternative to the likes of Rupert Murdoch. You may as well say that paying for the NHS holds you to ransom as you'd rather everyone had to pay for private medicine.
What nonsense the documentaries are made by freelancers not bbc employees. The bbc just commissions them on short term projects and the individuals are the same people who work on discovery where their next contract coud be. And actually I think national geographic and discovery are very good. As for comparing it to the NHS that is ridiculous. The BBC is one other TV channel it was a good idea in the 1940's but it is ridiculous it survives today and you need to buy a licence to own an electrical appliance. Most people these days have cable satellite or freeview. The other thing about the bbc is it continually breaks it charter on political impartiality. The bbc has to go or compete with other channels on. Commercial basis and the mandatory TV licence should be scrapped. If you love the bbc so much then fine you pay for it but don't force the rest of us too.
Yes - they do commission documentaries - bit what do you imagine they use to pay for them - brass washers . No, it's the licence fee.


Freeview - take away BBC1, BBC2, BBC 3 , BBC 4, BBC NEWS and (well, some of us watch it BBC Parliament - wh else would broadcast it). Then take away all the channels that are provided by UKTV (financed by the BBC) Watch, Gold, Alibi, Dave, Blighty, Eden, Yesterday, Home, Good Food, Really.


Freeview 's looking a bit bare after that.
[quote][p][bold]Sankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: Whatever its imperfections , the BBC is something we should be proud of. Compare the quality of documentary making with the likes of the Discovery Channel or when it comes to news have a gander at Fox News (Goebbels would have blushed to be so biased) Held to ransom by the BBC - no just paying for an alternative to the likes of Rupert Murdoch. You may as well say that paying for the NHS holds you to ransom as you'd rather everyone had to pay for private medicine.[/p][/quote]What nonsense the documentaries are made by freelancers not bbc employees. The bbc just commissions them on short term projects and the individuals are the same people who work on discovery where their next contract coud be. And actually I think national geographic and discovery are very good. As for comparing it to the NHS that is ridiculous. The BBC is one other TV channel it was a good idea in the 1940's but it is ridiculous it survives today and you need to buy a licence to own an electrical appliance. Most people these days have cable satellite or freeview. The other thing about the bbc is it continually breaks it charter on political impartiality. The bbc has to go or compete with other channels on. Commercial basis and the mandatory TV licence should be scrapped. If you love the bbc so much then fine you pay for it but don't force the rest of us too.[/p][/quote]Yes - they do commission documentaries - bit what do you imagine they use to pay for them - brass washers . No, it's the licence fee. Freeview - take away BBC1, BBC2, BBC 3 , BBC 4, BBC NEWS and (well, some of us watch it BBC Parliament - wh else would broadcast it). Then take away all the channels that are provided by UKTV (financed by the BBC) Watch, Gold, Alibi, Dave, Blighty, Eden, Yesterday, Home, Good Food, Really. Freeview 's looking a bit bare after that. Nick Tessla
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