Warrington is an eyesore

Warrington is an eyesore

Warrington is an eyesore

First published in Letters

IS it just me appalled by the completely overgrown state of all the grassed verges in Orford?

I have been in contact with the council on a couple of occasions as the grass verge in front of my house has not been cut since April and the grass is more than a foot high.

The response from the council was that grass cutting has now gone onto an eight week rota.

Why? The British summer is very short and grass only needs cutting over a short number of months. With this in mind this would mean that on the current rota the grass verges will only be cut two or three times.

Everywhere is looking unsightly, neglected and forgotten. How the rota works also baffles me as one side of Capesthorne Road has been mowed but the other side hasn’t.

It seems we are paying increasing council tax bills but getting less in return and in the process turning Warrington into an overgrown eyesore

Tina Rabbitt Orford

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7:59am Sat 5 Jul 14

garywar50 says...

It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets.
It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place
It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets. It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place garywar50
  • Score: 2

6:19pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Mike5608 says...

garywar50 wrote:
It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets.
It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place
What are you on! I don't care about bees do to think no one else does get it cut
[quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets. It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place[/p][/quote]What are you on! I don't care about bees do to think no one else does get it cut Mike5608
  • Score: -11

8:23pm Sat 5 Jul 14

grey-area says...

garywar50 wrote:
It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets.
It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place
Yes, bees and other insects are vital to our coexistence. Funny how they seemed to manage when the grass was being cut though. So that's that argument disproven. The town looks a dump when you enter it from any direction because the council, who incidentally asks us to take pride in our town, can't get their financial act together.
[quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets. It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place[/p][/quote]Yes, bees and other insects are vital to our coexistence. Funny how they seemed to manage when the grass was being cut though. So that's that argument disproven. The town looks a dump when you enter it from any direction because the council, who incidentally asks us to take pride in our town, can't get their financial act together. grey-area
  • Score: 10

12:58am Mon 7 Jul 14

Mike E says...

If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself?

I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?
If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself? I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving? Mike E
  • Score: 15

8:50am Mon 7 Jul 14

Freeborn John says...

garywar50 wrote:
It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets.
It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place
I see.
WBC haven't neglected the towns verges because of a policy of cutting back services wherever possible on the grounds of 'reducing costs'.
No, they've done it because they're all Hippies, which, considering some of their other odd decisions, makes perfect sense.
They should stop smoking that stuff, Man.
[quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets. It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place[/p][/quote]I see. WBC haven't neglected the towns verges because of a policy of cutting back services wherever possible on the grounds of 'reducing costs'. No, they've done it because they're all Hippies, which, considering some of their other odd decisions, makes perfect sense. They should stop smoking that stuff, Man. Freeborn John
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Universally Challenged says...

Mike5608 wrote:
garywar50 wrote: It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets. It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place
What are you on! I don't care about bees do to think no one else does get it cut
Bees play an important role in the pollination process - scientists are worried about the fall in bee numbers as it could lead to a fall in our food production. We're still not totally sure why the numbers are dropping, and creating more wild areas is one theoretical solution which may or may not work. Hopefully it will help, but I wonder whether the council would have cut back on this service for this reason if it were swimming in cash?
[quote][p][bold]Mike5608[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: It's called nature! its restaking its claim to a peaceful existence its not there to facilitate human invasion andctheir pets. It is there to facilitate the procreation of our wildlife that without certain elements ie bees which without the continued existence through peaceful safe unpolluted environments WE would be unable to live hence no strolls with our pets and children into natures rightful place[/p][/quote]What are you on! I don't care about bees do to think no one else does get it cut[/p][/quote]Bees play an important role in the pollination process - scientists are worried about the fall in bee numbers as it could lead to a fall in our food production. We're still not totally sure why the numbers are dropping, and creating more wild areas is one theoretical solution which may or may not work. Hopefully it will help, but I wonder whether the council would have cut back on this service for this reason if it were swimming in cash? Universally Challenged
  • Score: 9

5:45pm Mon 7 Jul 14

gazhopley says...

The bees aren't disappearing... they are going home to Melissa Majoria ha ha
The bees aren't disappearing... they are going home to Melissa Majoria ha ha gazhopley
  • Score: -2

12:28am Tue 8 Jul 14

grey-area says...

Mike E wrote:
If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself?

I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?
Great idea - just give me my rates refund and I'll get an industrial lawn mower. Then I'll join you when you tell me when you're going to each road island as you enter Warrington, which is what I was on about. Not the bit that I keep tidy in front of my house.
[quote][p][bold]Mike E[/bold] wrote: If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself? I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?[/p][/quote]Great idea - just give me my rates refund and I'll get an industrial lawn mower. Then I'll join you when you tell me when you're going to each road island as you enter Warrington, which is what I was on about. Not the bit that I keep tidy in front of my house. grey-area
  • Score: 1

12:53pm Tue 8 Jul 14

HappyMisery says...

"F*** em, theyre only bees. "
"F*** em, theyre only bees. " HappyMisery
  • Score: -10

1:01pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Universally Challenged says...

grey-area wrote:
Mike E wrote: If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself? I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?
Great idea - just give me my rates refund and I'll get an industrial lawn mower. Then I'll join you when you tell me when you're going to each road island as you enter Warrington, which is what I was on about. Not the bit that I keep tidy in front of my house.
As councils are becoming commissioning bodies I think that's a great idea - there's nothing stopping people from organising themselves and putting a bid in for these services. Although with the rising cost of the ageing population I wouldn't expect a rates refund as that cash will be diverted to social care.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike E[/bold] wrote: If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself? I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?[/p][/quote]Great idea - just give me my rates refund and I'll get an industrial lawn mower. Then I'll join you when you tell me when you're going to each road island as you enter Warrington, which is what I was on about. Not the bit that I keep tidy in front of my house.[/p][/quote]As councils are becoming commissioning bodies I think that's a great idea - there's nothing stopping people from organising themselves and putting a bid in for these services. Although with the rising cost of the ageing population I wouldn't expect a rates refund as that cash will be diverted to social care. Universally Challenged
  • Score: -3

1:50pm Tue 8 Jul 14

tojahejome says...

I know there are exceptions such as the elderly and disabled, but why can't you get off you rear and cut it yourself. Why should the council spend precious money keeping the area outside the front of you house tidy? Have a bit of pride in your own surroundings.
I know there are exceptions such as the elderly and disabled, but why can't you get off you rear and cut it yourself. Why should the council spend precious money keeping the area outside the front of you house tidy? Have a bit of pride in your own surroundings. tojahejome
  • Score: 0

7:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

local man says...

its not just the bit in front of your house, as said above the verges on all the main roads into town, and the weeds growing around the curb on some roads will undoubtedly be doing damage that will cost more to fix than a bit of weedkiller during the warm weather. If I had a verge outside my house id maintain it, Its so narrow we dont even have a pavement (honest). I do think there should be a link between how much the council have to spend maintaining an area and how much council tax residents are charged, so if in one area householders kept the hedges trimmed, mowed a few strips of grass and left no litter or graffiti they paid a lower council tax. in scum bag areas I bet the council have to spend more than they get in taxes.
its not just the bit in front of your house, as said above the verges on all the main roads into town, and the weeds growing around the curb on some roads will undoubtedly be doing damage that will cost more to fix than a bit of weedkiller during the warm weather. If I had a verge outside my house id maintain it, Its so narrow we dont even have a pavement (honest). I do think there should be a link between how much the council have to spend maintaining an area and how much council tax residents are charged, so if in one area householders kept the hedges trimmed, mowed a few strips of grass and left no litter or graffiti they paid a lower council tax. in scum bag areas I bet the council have to spend more than they get in taxes. local man
  • Score: 4

9:27pm Tue 8 Jul 14

tojahejome says...

local man wrote:
its not just the bit in front of your house, as said above the verges on all the main roads into town, and the weeds growing around the curb on some roads will undoubtedly be doing damage that will cost more to fix than a bit of weedkiller during the warm weather. If I had a verge outside my house id maintain it, Its so narrow we dont even have a pavement (honest). I do think there should be a link between how much the council have to spend maintaining an area and how much council tax residents are charged, so if in one area householders kept the hedges trimmed, mowed a few strips of grass and left no litter or graffiti they paid a lower council tax. in scum bag areas I bet the council have to spend more than they get in taxes.
Good idea that, but it seems to me that the areas of 'social housing' get better roads, well maintained pavements and good lighting, where as in area of predominantly private dwelling nothing gets done. There again, you go round all areas (social and private) and if the council mow the verges, people just park on them anyway
[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote: its not just the bit in front of your house, as said above the verges on all the main roads into town, and the weeds growing around the curb on some roads will undoubtedly be doing damage that will cost more to fix than a bit of weedkiller during the warm weather. If I had a verge outside my house id maintain it, Its so narrow we dont even have a pavement (honest). I do think there should be a link between how much the council have to spend maintaining an area and how much council tax residents are charged, so if in one area householders kept the hedges trimmed, mowed a few strips of grass and left no litter or graffiti they paid a lower council tax. in scum bag areas I bet the council have to spend more than they get in taxes.[/p][/quote]Good idea that, but it seems to me that the areas of 'social housing' get better roads, well maintained pavements and good lighting, where as in area of predominantly private dwelling nothing gets done. There again, you go round all areas (social and private) and if the council mow the verges, people just park on them anyway tojahejome
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Lindabry says...

Personally I love to see all the verges left to grow naturally, the mix of grasses and wildflowers is beautiful and some of the roundabouts and verges sown with wildflowers are stunning. The traditional clipped and trimmed 'municipal' look is rather dated, the trend now is to embrace nature rather than fight it with herbicides . Just let them be!
Personally I love to see all the verges left to grow naturally, the mix of grasses and wildflowers is beautiful and some of the roundabouts and verges sown with wildflowers are stunning. The traditional clipped and trimmed 'municipal' look is rather dated, the trend now is to embrace nature rather than fight it with herbicides . Just let them be! Lindabry
  • Score: 2

4:09pm Wed 9 Jul 14

tarasmum says...

HappyMisery wrote:
"F*** em, theyre only bees. "
And we need them to pollinate - idiot !!!
[quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: "F*** em, theyre only bees. "[/p][/quote]And we need them to pollinate - idiot !!! tarasmum
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Wed 9 Jul 14

tarasmum says...

Yes Warrington is a dump. You should live round where I live. Many residents round here use the rear entry as a rubbish tip and put allsorts outside their back gates, mattresses, sofas, washing machines, bags of rubbish, and allsorts of household junk. We only get a clean up when I complain (YET AGAIN) to WBC. Can't understand why the Council don't crack down on these regular offenders !! Fly tipping is ILLEGAL !
Yes Warrington is a dump. You should live round where I live. Many residents round here use the rear entry as a rubbish tip and put allsorts outside their back gates, mattresses, sofas, washing machines, bags of rubbish, and allsorts of household junk. We only get a clean up when I complain (YET AGAIN) to WBC. Can't understand why the Council don't crack down on these regular offenders !! Fly tipping is ILLEGAL ! tarasmum
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Wed 9 Jul 14

grey-area says...

tojahejome wrote:
I know there are exceptions such as the elderly and disabled, but why can't you get off you rear and cut it yourself. Why should the council spend precious money keeping the area outside the front of you house tidy? Have a bit of pride in your own surroundings.
Not that I don't keep outside my house tidy, but if you are told you are paying for a service and then it doesn't happen, that's ok then?

it's also the principle that's at stake here.
[quote][p][bold]tojahejome[/bold] wrote: I know there are exceptions such as the elderly and disabled, but why can't you get off you rear and cut it yourself. Why should the council spend precious money keeping the area outside the front of you house tidy? Have a bit of pride in your own surroundings.[/p][/quote]Not that I don't keep outside my house tidy, but if you are told you are paying for a service and then it doesn't happen, that's ok then? it's also the principle that's at stake here. grey-area
  • Score: 2

8:32pm Wed 16 Jul 14

ExRatRacer says...

Mike E wrote:
If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself?

I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?
Quite right Mike. I get off my backside and sweep the road outside my house and pull up weeds that grow in the gutter and keep it clean and tidy. It takes approximately an hour a year. And I work full time too!
Far too many of the roads around Warrington have overgrown, weed-filled gutters. People should take responsibility for the area outside their house. And I realise that there are people who might not be able to do this, but that would be a small minority. We could all help the council save money by doing our bit. I want to live in a neat and tidy location, so I make sure I do.
[quote][p][bold]Mike E[/bold] wrote: If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself? I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?[/p][/quote]Quite right Mike. I get off my backside and sweep the road outside my house and pull up weeds that grow in the gutter and keep it clean and tidy. It takes approximately an hour a year. And I work full time too! Far too many of the roads around Warrington have overgrown, weed-filled gutters. People should take responsibility for the area outside their house. And I realise that there are people who might not be able to do this, but that would be a small minority. We could all help the council save money by doing our bit. I want to live in a neat and tidy location, so I make sure I do. ExRatRacer
  • Score: 1

8:38pm Wed 16 Jul 14

ExRatRacer says...

ExRatRacer wrote:
Mike E wrote:
If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself?

I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?
Quite right Mike. I get off my backside and sweep the road outside my house and pull up weeds that grow in the gutter and keep it clean and tidy. It takes approximately an hour a year. And I work full time too!
Far too many of the roads around Warrington have overgrown, weed-filled gutters. People should take responsibility for the area outside their house. And I realise that there are people who might not be able to do this, but that would be a small minority. We could all help the council save money by doing our bit. I want to live in a neat and tidy location, so I make sure I do.
To add to my previous comment, I like the natural wildflower areas of verges that the council leave, They are good for wildlife and look nice. However there are overgrown areas too, but it is the weeds growing in the gutters of nearly every road in Warrington that I find unsightly.
[quote][p][bold]ExRatRacer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike E[/bold] wrote: If it's bothering you so much to complain, why not do somethiong about it by organising a local "cut the grass" or "make our area tidy"club, assuming you're not able to do it yourself? I keep in front of my house tidy despite council cutbacks. It doesn't take much and too many people complain but won't bother doing anything themselves. Maybe it's easier to moan here than get moving?[/p][/quote]Quite right Mike. I get off my backside and sweep the road outside my house and pull up weeds that grow in the gutter and keep it clean and tidy. It takes approximately an hour a year. And I work full time too! Far too many of the roads around Warrington have overgrown, weed-filled gutters. People should take responsibility for the area outside their house. And I realise that there are people who might not be able to do this, but that would be a small minority. We could all help the council save money by doing our bit. I want to live in a neat and tidy location, so I make sure I do.[/p][/quote]To add to my previous comment, I like the natural wildflower areas of verges that the council leave, They are good for wildlife and look nice. However there are overgrown areas too, but it is the weeds growing in the gutters of nearly every road in Warrington that I find unsightly. ExRatRacer
  • Score: 1

12:42pm Thu 17 Jul 14

TIRAB12 says...

grey-area wrote:
tojahejome wrote: I know there are exceptions such as the elderly and disabled, but why can't you get off you rear and cut it yourself. Why should the council spend precious money keeping the area outside the front of you house tidy? Have a bit of pride in your own surroundings.
Not that I don't keep outside my house tidy, but if you are told you are paying for a service and then it doesn't happen, that's ok then? it's also the principle that's at stake here.
When I sent this letter in it wasn't just about the grass in front of my house but across Warrington. I would like to add that I do get off my rear every morning at 6.30 as I Work full time.
I do keep the area directly outside my house weed free and tidy, however the grass verge opposite my house is not a small grass verge but a large island the size of a small football pitch which for one my little domestic mower could not cope with as the grass was over a foot high and two I don't have an extension lead long enough. The ever increasing council tax we pay is for council services and we have a right to question where our money is being spent.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tojahejome[/bold] wrote: I know there are exceptions such as the elderly and disabled, but why can't you get off you rear and cut it yourself. Why should the council spend precious money keeping the area outside the front of you house tidy? Have a bit of pride in your own surroundings.[/p][/quote]Not that I don't keep outside my house tidy, but if you are told you are paying for a service and then it doesn't happen, that's ok then? it's also the principle that's at stake here.[/p][/quote]When I sent this letter in it wasn't just about the grass in front of my house but across Warrington. I would like to add that I do get off my rear every morning at 6.30 as I Work full time. I do keep the area directly outside my house weed free and tidy, however the grass verge opposite my house is not a small grass verge but a large island the size of a small football pitch which for one my little domestic mower could not cope with as the grass was over a foot high and two I don't have an extension lead long enough. The ever increasing council tax we pay is for council services and we have a right to question where our money is being spent. TIRAB12
  • Score: 1

12:11am Fri 18 Jul 14

local man says...

I can see only 1 possible solution - reach the bat phone and contact ... councilor Geoff Settle (Labor, Poulton North) who will personally trim bushes upon request.
I can see only 1 possible solution - reach the bat phone and contact ... councilor Geoff Settle (Labor, Poulton North) who will personally trim bushes upon request. local man
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Tue 22 Jul 14

stewlycoscom says...

local man wrote:
its not just the bit in front of your house, as said above the verges on all the main roads into town, and the weeds growing around the curb on some roads will undoubtedly be doing damage that will cost more to fix than a bit of weedkiller during the warm weather. If I had a verge outside my house id maintain it, Its so narrow we dont even have a pavement (honest). I do think there should be a link between how much the council have to spend maintaining an area and how much council tax residents are charged, so if in one area householders kept the hedges trimmed, mowed a few strips of grass and left no litter or graffiti they paid a lower council tax. in scum bag areas I bet the council have to spend more than they get in taxes.
What a lot of non scumbags forget is, whilst you richer folk with your nice spacious green areas whinge that your council tax is higher than the scumbags there are far more properties per square mile in our areas equating to a higher tax bill per square metre so you may find that your area is a tax drain on the council coffers compared with us lowly knuckle draggers who only need a bit of weed killer.
[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote: its not just the bit in front of your house, as said above the verges on all the main roads into town, and the weeds growing around the curb on some roads will undoubtedly be doing damage that will cost more to fix than a bit of weedkiller during the warm weather. If I had a verge outside my house id maintain it, Its so narrow we dont even have a pavement (honest). I do think there should be a link between how much the council have to spend maintaining an area and how much council tax residents are charged, so if in one area householders kept the hedges trimmed, mowed a few strips of grass and left no litter or graffiti they paid a lower council tax. in scum bag areas I bet the council have to spend more than they get in taxes.[/p][/quote]What a lot of non scumbags forget is, whilst you richer folk with your nice spacious green areas whinge that your council tax is higher than the scumbags there are far more properties per square mile in our areas equating to a higher tax bill per square metre so you may find that your area is a tax drain on the council coffers compared with us lowly knuckle draggers who only need a bit of weed killer. stewlycoscom
  • Score: 0

11:03am Mon 28 Jul 14

pnewsome says...

eyesore weeds are doing a great job of hiding the tyre wall.
eyesore weeds are doing a great job of hiding the tyre wall. pnewsome
  • Score: 0

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