Council is all take, take

Council is all take, take

Council is all take, take

First published in Letters

WARRINGTON Borough Council is taking the pride out of Warrington.

How on earth can people take pride in where they live if the council cannot do its duty to keep all public areas clean and well presented.

Driving through Orford and other areas I have noticed roadside grass verges, roundabouts, playing fields and council-owned property all overgrown.

Over the past 20 years the council’s revenue has increased due to new developments, all of which pay towards local services.

It seems to me it is take, take, take and it does not want to give anything back.

I think the council needs to rethink how it spends the money it has available as cost cutting does not seem to be cutting grass.

If the shoe was on the other foot and a member of the public had a messy garden that was overgrown, I am sure it would be sending out letters.

So if a member of the council is reading this, please do something about this ridiculous eyesore and spend all that money you have on where it is most needed.

DAVID HINCHLIFFE Callands

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1:26pm Fri 27 Jun 14

richiepooh says...

Seems to be a reoccurring theme here Warrington council, maybe instead of wasting OUR money on naff modern sculptures and plant pots we could get more employees cutting grass, creating more jobs, more local revenue, more money.

no, I suspect there's someone stuck 3 pieces of scaffold into a rock, calls it art and charges WBC £300k for it is more important.
Seems to be a reoccurring theme here Warrington council, maybe instead of wasting OUR money on naff modern sculptures and plant pots we could get more employees cutting grass, creating more jobs, more local revenue, more money. no, I suspect there's someone stuck 3 pieces of scaffold into a rock, calls it art and charges WBC £300k for it is more important. richiepooh
  • Score: 35

2:44pm Fri 27 Jun 14

J H Wise says...

After all the letters of complain, surely our council will sit up and take notice. The reduction in grass cutting is causing not only our town to look untidy but for drivers unsafe roads as the long grass is obscuring us from other road users, it is making it high nye impossible to pick up dog poop and now our children cannot play out. Come on Councillors get the men out with the lawn mowers,, rather than have them rusting away in the council stores!!!
After all the letters of complain, surely our council will sit up and take notice. The reduction in grass cutting is causing not only our town to look untidy but for drivers unsafe roads as the long grass is obscuring us from other road users, it is making it high nye impossible to pick up dog poop and now our children cannot play out. Come on Councillors get the men out with the lawn mowers,, rather than have them rusting away in the council stores!!! J H Wise
  • Score: 34

8:56am Sat 28 Jun 14

TherealLB says...

Some of the reduction in grass cutting is deliberate. Poppies, cornflowers and the like are planted into long grass to encourage bees to pollenate and ensure their survival because frankly if they stop doing THEIR job, we will quickly run out of food.
But I think the council might be hiding behind this a bit now because it's obvious where they're trying to encourage bees and they do seem to have stopped cutting everywhere!
The other thing I've noticed is foliage has been allowed to completely overgrow road signs, including speed limits, place names and directions. Speed limit change signs being obscured is dangerous. Sort it out WBC!
Some of the reduction in grass cutting is deliberate. Poppies, cornflowers and the like are planted into long grass to encourage bees to pollenate and ensure their survival because frankly if they stop doing THEIR job, we will quickly run out of food. But I think the council might be hiding behind this a bit now because it's obvious where they're trying to encourage bees and they do seem to have stopped cutting everywhere! The other thing I've noticed is foliage has been allowed to completely overgrow road signs, including speed limits, place names and directions. Speed limit change signs being obscured is dangerous. Sort it out WBC! TherealLB
  • Score: 24

9:01am Sat 28 Jun 14

garywar50 says...

Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! !
Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! ! garywar50
  • Score: -28

9:14am Sun 29 Jun 14

Freeborn John says...

garywar50 wrote:
Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! !
Perhaps they could get off their fat lazy arses themselves?
[quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! ![/p][/quote]Perhaps they could get off their fat lazy arses themselves? Freeborn John
  • Score: 6

12:41pm Sun 29 Jun 14

chumhill says...

garywar50 wrote:
Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! !
What an idiot you are, I completely agree with all other comments, just on the M62 island at Winwick the traffic lights are being obstructed. Not only this but the majority of us work hard and pay council tax etc and in return we at least expect basic services, one of these being the grass cut etc. I keep hearing how the Omega site is bring lots of jobs and Warrington is top 10 this and top 10 that, well its wont be top ten anything if basic jobs such as cutting grass is costing the council so much it can no longer be done!. Glad to see some of it has been cut now just need the guys with the strimmers to finish it off :).
[quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! ![/p][/quote]What an idiot you are, I completely agree with all other comments, just on the M62 island at Winwick the traffic lights are being obstructed. Not only this but the majority of us work hard and pay council tax etc and in return we at least expect basic services, one of these being the grass cut etc. I keep hearing how the Omega site is bring lots of jobs and Warrington is top 10 this and top 10 that, well its wont be top ten anything if basic jobs such as cutting grass is costing the council so much it can no longer be done!. Glad to see some of it has been cut now just need the guys with the strimmers to finish it off :). chumhill
  • Score: 7

5:59pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Freeborn John says...

Freeborn John wrote:
garywar50 wrote:
Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! !
Perhaps they could get off their fat lazy arses themselves?
I think I perhaps misspoke myself there, my apologies to anyone who actually is giving it their all to support their family.
Unlike the herds of pram pushing heifers and their beaus who were cavorting their benefits away in town on Friday for instance...
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! ![/p][/quote]Perhaps they could get off their fat lazy arses themselves?[/p][/quote]I think I perhaps misspoke myself there, my apologies to anyone who actually is giving it their all to support their family. Unlike the herds of pram pushing heifers and their beaus who were cavorting their benefits away in town on Friday for instance... Freeborn John
  • Score: 10

11:54am Mon 30 Jun 14

tigggeeer says...

I could not agree more with this letter. This town has become so unkempt and it is quite embarrassing. I did however notice the vast amount of cutting and cleaning that occurred a few days before the Hillsborough hearing ... hmm I wonder why?? Since then nothing. I have recently been away (just a few days) and on my return I got a brief insight into what anyone visiting Warrington would be subject to. Even the park in Palmyra Square is a mess. Never seen this in my life before.

To the person who wrote about letting certain wild flowers grow ... come on!! This is about not keeping things as they should be, sorry I found this comment ridiculous and blinkered.
I could not agree more with this letter. This town has become so unkempt and it is quite embarrassing. I did however notice the vast amount of cutting and cleaning that occurred a few days before the Hillsborough hearing ... hmm I wonder why?? Since then nothing. I have recently been away (just a few days) and on my return I got a brief insight into what anyone visiting Warrington would be subject to. Even the park in Palmyra Square is a mess. Never seen this in my life before. To the person who wrote about letting certain wild flowers grow ... come on!! This is about not keeping things as they should be, sorry I found this comment ridiculous and blinkered. tigggeeer
  • Score: 4

11:59am Mon 30 Jun 14

HappyMisery says...

This is a fair point to raise as at 2ft high it looks untidy, at 4ft high as it is in Birchwood and Risley means that its an accident waiting to happen. Cars are likely to crash and I'd wager that a cyclist is going to be seriously injured in Risley soon as you cannot see past the grass unless you pull out onto the roundabout. Council tax is supposed to cover grass cutting, bin collection and road cleaning as standard basic services from the council. So far we've all been charged more and continue to get less. If they don't listen, speak in the voting booth. Its the only language that WBC seem to understand.
This is a fair point to raise as at 2ft high it looks untidy, at 4ft high as it is in Birchwood and Risley means that its an accident waiting to happen. Cars are likely to crash and I'd wager that a cyclist is going to be seriously injured in Risley soon as you cannot see past the grass unless you pull out onto the roundabout. Council tax is supposed to cover grass cutting, bin collection and road cleaning as standard basic services from the council. So far we've all been charged more and continue to get less. If they don't listen, speak in the voting booth. Its the only language that WBC seem to understand. HappyMisery
  • Score: 10

12:34pm Mon 30 Jun 14

gerrumonside says...

On Saturday I drove down Birchwood Way and on Sunday I drove down the A556 Walton Drag.

which one has a perfectly manicured central reservation and which one has an overgrown mess for a central Reservation?

it'll help you with your answer if you know that Walton Drag is in the south of the borough ;)
On Saturday I drove down Birchwood Way and on Sunday I drove down the A556 Walton Drag. which one has a perfectly manicured central reservation and which one has an overgrown mess for a central Reservation? it'll help you with your answer if you know that Walton Drag is in the south of the borough ;) gerrumonside
  • Score: 0

9:05pm Mon 30 Jun 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 8

10:25pm Mon 30 Jun 14

local man says...

Freeborn John wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
garywar50 wrote:
Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! !
Perhaps they could get off their fat lazy arses themselves?
I think I perhaps misspoke myself there, my apologies to anyone who actually is giving it their all to support their family.
Unlike the herds of pram pushing heifers and their beaus who were cavorting their benefits away in town on Friday for instance...
Although your comment is very funny and made me laugh I would have to disagree with your comment about Warrington mums on benefits being "heifers". More like munters.
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garywar50[/bold] wrote: Are you three taking the mickey?..uncut grass?? there are people in this town struggling to feed themselves and their families and you're worried bout uncut verges...get off ya fat lazy arses and cut it yaselves! ![/p][/quote]Perhaps they could get off their fat lazy arses themselves?[/p][/quote]I think I perhaps misspoke myself there, my apologies to anyone who actually is giving it their all to support their family. Unlike the herds of pram pushing heifers and their beaus who were cavorting their benefits away in town on Friday for instance...[/p][/quote]Although your comment is very funny and made me laugh I would have to disagree with your comment about Warrington mums on benefits being "heifers". More like munters. local man
  • Score: 2

1:47pm Tue 1 Jul 14

PageA says...

#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div
[quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div PageA
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Tue 1 Jul 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

PageA wrote:
#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div
Which paper would you like people to read ? The mirror or let me guess the guardian ? because you always use that line. Immature fanatic.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div[/p][/quote]Which paper would you like people to read ? The mirror or let me guess the guardian ? because you always use that line. Immature fanatic. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 2

6:31pm Tue 1 Jul 14

HappyMisery says...

PageA wrote:
#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div
If you actually read what he said, instead of jumping to attack him with your views on immigrants, you'd see that he wasn't talking about the thousands of hard working immigrants who provide for their families and contribute to the economy, he's talking about the ones who don't work and who drain council resources.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div[/p][/quote]If you actually read what he said, instead of jumping to attack him with your views on immigrants, you'd see that he wasn't talking about the thousands of hard working immigrants who provide for their families and contribute to the economy, he's talking about the ones who don't work and who drain council resources. HappyMisery
  • Score: 6

6:39pm Tue 1 Jul 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

HappyMisery thank you. Page A is somewhat of a militant on here. Very rude individual who does not tolerate other peoples opinions unless they line up along side her extreme leftist views.
HappyMisery thank you. Page A is somewhat of a militant on here. Very rude individual who does not tolerate other peoples opinions unless they line up along side her extreme leftist views. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 8

10:29pm Tue 1 Jul 14

PageA says...

HappyMisery wrote:
PageA wrote:
#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div
If you actually read what he said, instead of jumping to attack him with your views on immigrants, you'd see that he wasn't talking about the thousands of hard working immigrants who provide for their families and contribute to the economy, he's talking about the ones who don't work and who drain council resources.
Oh..is he? That's quite a connection you two have going on there
[quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]I knew it would be in there somewhere! Go ahead Blame the immigrants you ignorant neanderthal! I'd swap a hard working and foreign worker who has brought his family to this country to build a new life with us over uneducated fools like you any day of the week. In fact I'd support the council rounding you all up and putting you all on a plane with as many copies of the Daily Express and Daily Mail as we can afford and sending you somewhere far away to make more room. Div[/p][/quote]If you actually read what he said, instead of jumping to attack him with your views on immigrants, you'd see that he wasn't talking about the thousands of hard working immigrants who provide for their families and contribute to the economy, he's talking about the ones who don't work and who drain council resources.[/p][/quote]Oh..is he? That's quite a connection you two have going on there PageA
  • Score: -6

10:32pm Tue 1 Jul 14

PageA says...

#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
HappyMisery thank you. Page A is somewhat of a militant on here. Very rude individual who does not tolerate other peoples opinions unless they line up along side her extreme leftist views.
You blame all the problems in the town on immigrants and I'm the extremist!?! Nutter
[quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: HappyMisery thank you. Page A is somewhat of a militant on here. Very rude individual who does not tolerate other peoples opinions unless they line up along side her extreme leftist views.[/p][/quote]You blame all the problems in the town on immigrants and I'm the extremist!?! Nutter PageA
  • Score: -6

3:42am Wed 2 Jul 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

PageA read what I said. I mentioned a load of reasons.
PageA read what I said. I mentioned a load of reasons. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 5

8:42am Wed 2 Jul 14

PageA says...

You mention 3 and top of the list is a group of 'people'. Maybe you're unaware of your bigotry scarlet, but it's here for all to see. You know nothing of the amount of money it costs to support new arrivals to the country or the amount that they contribute to the economy yet you choose to single them out as the reason why the bl***y grass isn't being cut!! Seriously... Have a good hard think about what you're being told before you make stupid comments like that. Have a think about how your remarks might be perceived by the children of Eastern European families who are here to live and grow as fellow Warringtonians.
You mention 3 and top of the list is a group of 'people'. Maybe you're unaware of your bigotry scarlet, but it's here for all to see. You know nothing of the amount of money it costs to support new arrivals to the country or the amount that they contribute to the economy yet you choose to single them out as the reason why the bl***y grass isn't being cut!! Seriously... Have a good hard think about what you're being told before you make stupid comments like that. Have a think about how your remarks might be perceived by the children of Eastern European families who are here to live and grow as fellow Warringtonians. PageA
  • Score: -1

8:45am Wed 2 Jul 14

PageA says...

Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views
Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views PageA
  • Score: -1

9:44am Wed 2 Jul 14

Uncoded says...

PageA wrote:
Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views
I totally agree with you.
I'd much rather help to support a hard working immigrant and their family, than pay for an uneducated, lazy local person.
Certain parts of the town are full of bigoted layabouts that think it is their divine right to be funded by the tax payer just because they are 'British'.
Maybe they should be out cutting the grass, rather than sitting outside their council houses smoking and boozing.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. I'd much rather help to support a hard working immigrant and their family, than pay for an uneducated, lazy local person. Certain parts of the town are full of bigoted layabouts that think it is their divine right to be funded by the tax payer just because they are 'British'. Maybe they should be out cutting the grass, rather than sitting outside their council houses smoking and boozing. Uncoded
  • Score: 1

1:17pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Universally Challenged says...

PageA wrote:
Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views
It would be interesting to see how much is spent on "providing for immigrants" vs providing for British 'spongers'. We could get a bit of perspective then (whatever the outcome) and maybe avoid going down this road again and again.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views[/p][/quote]It would be interesting to see how much is spent on "providing for immigrants" vs providing for British 'spongers'. We could get a bit of perspective then (whatever the outcome) and maybe avoid going down this road again and again. Universally Challenged
  • Score: 6

1:22pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Universally Challenged says...

#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
... although if we voted Conservative and they get in locally and rejuvenate the "Big Society" policy of 2010, wouldn't we still have to cut the verges ourselves?
[quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]... although if we voted Conservative and they get in locally and rejuvenate the "Big Society" policy of 2010, wouldn't we still have to cut the verges ourselves? Universally Challenged
  • Score: 3

5:15pm Wed 2 Jul 14

fedster says...

PageA wrote:
You mention 3 and top of the list is a group of 'people'. Maybe you're unaware of your bigotry scarlet, but it's here for all to see. You know nothing of the amount of money it costs to support new arrivals to the country or the amount that they contribute to the economy yet you choose to single them out as the reason why the bl***y grass isn't being cut!! Seriously... Have a good hard think about what you're being told before you make stupid comments like that. Have a think about how your remarks might be perceived by the children of Eastern European families who are here to live and grow as fellow Warringtonians.
then why dont you educate us all with the figure then pagea

then we can compare them to the dozens of other agency out there that fudge figures for there own gain.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: You mention 3 and top of the list is a group of 'people'. Maybe you're unaware of your bigotry scarlet, but it's here for all to see. You know nothing of the amount of money it costs to support new arrivals to the country or the amount that they contribute to the economy yet you choose to single them out as the reason why the bl***y grass isn't being cut!! Seriously... Have a good hard think about what you're being told before you make stupid comments like that. Have a think about how your remarks might be perceived by the children of Eastern European families who are here to live and grow as fellow Warringtonians.[/p][/quote]then why dont you educate us all with the figure then pagea then we can compare them to the dozens of other agency out there that fudge figures for there own gain. fedster
  • Score: 5

8:22pm Wed 2 Jul 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

People people, PageA is a liberal individual. Leave the individual in its bubble. It wants you to provoke it. It's like a feral animal.

Uncoded you are right in the fact that there are lazy people laying about doing nothing and yes I agree it does my head in too. It does upset me that our older generation isn't getting the help it needs though from care too treatment because we are too busy pandering to people who have paid nothing into our system, or claim for benifits while living back in Eastern Europe as aposed to those who have paid into it all their lives.
I haven't got an issue with people who come here and contribute to the system and integrate.
People people, PageA is a liberal individual. Leave the individual in its bubble. It wants you to provoke it. It's like a feral animal. Uncoded you are right in the fact that there are lazy people laying about doing nothing and yes I agree it does my head in too. It does upset me that our older generation isn't getting the help it needs though from care too treatment because we are too busy pandering to people who have paid nothing into our system, or claim for benifits while living back in Eastern Europe as aposed to those who have paid into it all their lives. I haven't got an issue with people who come here and contribute to the system and integrate. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 5

8:44pm Wed 2 Jul 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

Universally Challenged wrote:
#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
... although if we voted Conservative and they get in locally and rejuvenate the "Big Society" policy of 2010, wouldn't we still have to cut the verges ourselves?
Not to sure, I'm no Tory boy but yes probably. Although by now I think you should agree you can't trust any of the main stream parties policies as they all seem to be non starters or go to rats. Big society can only work if local government and federal government work together which doesn't seem to happen as they all have their own agendas.
[quote][p][bold]Universally Challenged[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]... although if we voted Conservative and they get in locally and rejuvenate the "Big Society" policy of 2010, wouldn't we still have to cut the verges ourselves?[/p][/quote]Not to sure, I'm no Tory boy but yes probably. Although by now I think you should agree you can't trust any of the main stream parties policies as they all seem to be non starters or go to rats. Big society can only work if local government and federal government work together which doesn't seem to happen as they all have their own agendas. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 4

12:42am Thu 3 Jul 14

gerrumonside says...

Uncoded wrote:
PageA wrote:
Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views
I totally agree with you.
I'd much rather help to support a hard working immigrant and their family, than pay for an uneducated, lazy local person.
Certain parts of the town are full of bigoted layabouts that think it is their divine right to be funded by the tax payer just because they are 'British'.
Maybe they should be out cutting the grass, rather than sitting outside their council houses smoking and boozing.
I see what you did there..... you criticised someones views on immigrants being possible scroungers by holding the view that British people living in Council houses are scroungers ......( identifying them as drinkers and smokers as well just to add some weight to your study)

I bet you're one of those people who says they're ashamed to be British as well aren't you.
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: Warrington...where challenging bigotry and hate gets you labelled an 'extremist' ..might need a little help here with my minority views[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. I'd much rather help to support a hard working immigrant and their family, than pay for an uneducated, lazy local person. Certain parts of the town are full of bigoted layabouts that think it is their divine right to be funded by the tax payer just because they are 'British'. Maybe they should be out cutting the grass, rather than sitting outside their council houses smoking and boozing.[/p][/quote]I see what you did there..... you criticised someones views on immigrants being possible scroungers by holding the view that British people living in Council houses are scroungers ......( identifying them as drinkers and smokers as well just to add some weight to your study) I bet you're one of those people who says they're ashamed to be British as well aren't you. gerrumonside
  • Score: 1

7:40am Thu 3 Jul 14

PageA says...

fedster wrote:
PageA wrote:
You mention 3 and top of the list is a group of 'people'. Maybe you're unaware of your bigotry scarlet, but it's here for all to see. You know nothing of the amount of money it costs to support new arrivals to the country or the amount that they contribute to the economy yet you choose to single them out as the reason why the bl***y grass isn't being cut!! Seriously... Have a good hard think about what you're being told before you make stupid comments like that. Have a think about how your remarks might be perceived by the children of Eastern European families who are here to live and grow as fellow Warringtonians.
then why dont you educate us all with the figure then pagea

then we can compare them to the dozens of other agency out there that fudge figures for there own gain.
Don't need to my dear. This is a story about the council cutting grass but yet again the casual racism amongst many in this town has changed the topic. PageA is just shining a light on some of the stupid things that are said on here
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: You mention 3 and top of the list is a group of 'people'. Maybe you're unaware of your bigotry scarlet, but it's here for all to see. You know nothing of the amount of money it costs to support new arrivals to the country or the amount that they contribute to the economy yet you choose to single them out as the reason why the bl***y grass isn't being cut!! Seriously... Have a good hard think about what you're being told before you make stupid comments like that. Have a think about how your remarks might be perceived by the children of Eastern European families who are here to live and grow as fellow Warringtonians.[/p][/quote]then why dont you educate us all with the figure then pagea then we can compare them to the dozens of other agency out there that fudge figures for there own gain.[/p][/quote]Don't need to my dear. This is a story about the council cutting grass but yet again the casual racism amongst many in this town has changed the topic. PageA is just shining a light on some of the stupid things that are said on here PageA
  • Score: -6

7:51am Thu 3 Jul 14

PageA says...

#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
People people, PageA is a liberal individual. Leave the individual in its bubble. It wants you to provoke it. It's like a feral animal.

Uncoded you are right in the fact that there are lazy people laying about doing nothing and yes I agree it does my head in too. It does upset me that our older generation isn't getting the help it needs though from care too treatment because we are too busy pandering to people who have paid nothing into our system, or claim for benifits while living back in Eastern Europe as aposed to those who have paid into it all their lives.
I haven't got an issue with people who come here and contribute to the system and integrate.
People don't generally pick up their families and move thousands of miles to languish on benefits Pimple, they come to make a better life for themselves and their families. There are some great people with brilliant brains who are moving here and I welcome them as a great potential asset. I want them to fully immerse themselves into our country. Your comments build walls between us and slow or stop that process. Have a look at the positive contribution that immigration has made to our country recently and over thousands of years. Your government signed up to an agreement that enabled all European citizens the right to move around freely. You've decided to stay here but many of your countrymen have moved abroad to live and work. Are they being attacked like this in the press? No. We are all human beings pimple, the circumstances around where we are born matter not. We are all capable of living and thriving together if people like you shut the **** up
[quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: People people, PageA is a liberal individual. Leave the individual in its bubble. It wants you to provoke it. It's like a feral animal. Uncoded you are right in the fact that there are lazy people laying about doing nothing and yes I agree it does my head in too. It does upset me that our older generation isn't getting the help it needs though from care too treatment because we are too busy pandering to people who have paid nothing into our system, or claim for benifits while living back in Eastern Europe as aposed to those who have paid into it all their lives. I haven't got an issue with people who come here and contribute to the system and integrate.[/p][/quote]People don't generally pick up their families and move thousands of miles to languish on benefits Pimple, they come to make a better life for themselves and their families. There are some great people with brilliant brains who are moving here and I welcome them as a great potential asset. I want them to fully immerse themselves into our country. Your comments build walls between us and slow or stop that process. Have a look at the positive contribution that immigration has made to our country recently and over thousands of years. Your government signed up to an agreement that enabled all European citizens the right to move around freely. You've decided to stay here but many of your countrymen have moved abroad to live and work. Are they being attacked like this in the press? No. We are all human beings pimple, the circumstances around where we are born matter not. We are all capable of living and thriving together if people like you shut the **** up PageA
  • Score: -5

12:25pm Thu 3 Jul 14

WInwick Pig says...

Maybe while WBC is planting thousands of posts awaiting 20 mph speed signs all over the town, the workers could whip out a strimmer and cut the verges nearby?

Hey Presto 2 costly and not necessary jobs done at once.

Oink :@)
Maybe while WBC is planting thousands of posts awaiting 20 mph speed signs all over the town, the workers could whip out a strimmer and cut the verges nearby? Hey Presto 2 costly and not necessary jobs done at once. Oink :@) WInwick Pig
  • Score: 3

6:05pm Thu 3 Jul 14

#scarlet pimpernel# says...

Thanks PageA again for your priceless and pointless militant contribution. You are rather a shining light on a pile of ****.
Thanks PageA again for your priceless and pointless militant contribution. You are rather a shining light on a pile of ****. #scarlet pimpernel#
  • Score: 4

10:39pm Thu 3 Jul 14

PageA says...

#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
Thanks PageA again for your priceless and pointless militant contribution. You are rather a shining light on a pile of ****.
..Hang on...Used to have a good reply to stuff like this..oh yeah....I know what you are but what am I?
[quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: Thanks PageA again for your priceless and pointless militant contribution. You are rather a shining light on a pile of ****.[/p][/quote]..Hang on...Used to have a good reply to stuff like this..oh yeah....I know what you are but what am I? PageA
  • Score: -3

12:29pm Fri 4 Jul 14

madmuppet says...

Simple answer - get those on long term benefits (unemployed and those who are registered disabled but have once kicked a door and now have a stubbed toe) to go out and cut the grass to pay for there benefits. This may help them relaise you have to work for money and its not given for free. Mind you with free internet in Orford, Bewsey, Dallam etc - provided by the council (whilst I pay for mine) I'm sure there all busy applying for jobs!!!!!
Simple answer - get those on long term benefits (unemployed and those who are registered disabled but have once kicked a door and now have a stubbed toe) to go out and cut the grass to pay for there benefits. This may help them relaise you have to work for money and its not given for free. Mind you with free internet in Orford, Bewsey, Dallam etc - provided by the council (whilst I pay for mine) I'm sure there all busy applying for jobs!!!!! madmuppet
  • Score: 1

1:00pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Universally Challenged says...

#scarlet pimpernel# wrote:
Universally Challenged wrote:
#scarlet pimpernel# wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.
... although if we voted Conservative and they get in locally and rejuvenate the "Big Society" policy of 2010, wouldn't we still have to cut the verges ourselves?
Not to sure, I'm no Tory boy but yes probably. Although by now I think you should agree you can't trust any of the main stream parties policies as they all seem to be non starters or go to rats. Big society can only work if local government and federal government work together which doesn't seem to happen as they all have their own agendas.
I do agree, and on both counts - I find it difficult to see the difference in any of them at the moment, and once they're in power (whoever it is) I just sit back and wait for the excuses and backtracking on promises made in exchange for your "X" to roll in. Local and central govt definitely need to be more joined up to be more effective and I hope to see that one day.
[quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Universally Challenged[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#scarlet pimpernel#[/bold] wrote: I think the council is broke believe it or not. Potholes everywhere, uncut verge grass, bin collections minimised, job cuts, closure of tips and recycling centres ect. They spend to much on providing for immigrants, giving themselves pay rises and wasting money on pointless projects. This Labour council is slowly strangling the life out of us and all they keep saying is that it's the Tories fault. Well I'm sorry that line doesn't cut it anymore because this has always been a Labour council. All they want is higher business or council rates and to fine you as soon as they can if you own a vehicle.[/p][/quote]... although if we voted Conservative and they get in locally and rejuvenate the "Big Society" policy of 2010, wouldn't we still have to cut the verges ourselves?[/p][/quote]Not to sure, I'm no Tory boy but yes probably. Although by now I think you should agree you can't trust any of the main stream parties policies as they all seem to be non starters or go to rats. Big society can only work if local government and federal government work together which doesn't seem to happen as they all have their own agendas.[/p][/quote]I do agree, and on both counts - I find it difficult to see the difference in any of them at the moment, and once they're in power (whoever it is) I just sit back and wait for the excuses and backtracking on promises made in exchange for your "X" to roll in. Local and central govt definitely need to be more joined up to be more effective and I hope to see that one day. Universally Challenged
  • Score: 0

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