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Warrington Guardian: UKIP wants more landfill UKIP wants more landfill

UKIP likes to claim that most of our laws are ‘made in Brussels’.

Many of these EU laws are things that most would support: protecting workers’ rights and safety, limits on lorry drivers’ (and pilots’) hours, protecting wildlife etc.

Remarkably, the only EU directive that UKIP’s manifesto specifically says they’d get rid of is the landfill directive, which aims to reduce waste going to landfill because of its bad effects on the environment. For those of us fighting to close Arpley tip, it’s odd to find UKIP wanting more landfill and presumably happy to open more landfill sites.

Clr Steve Parish Labour, Bewsey and Whitecross ward

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10:30pm Thu 19 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.
For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats. kenomeat
  • Score: 1

4:33am Sat 21 Jun 14

fedster says...

whats the difference between ukip wanting more and this local council which has been UNABLE to close arpley tip months after its license run out.
whats the difference between ukip wanting more and this local council which has been UNABLE to close arpley tip months after its license run out. fedster
  • Score: 0

9:25am Mon 23 Jun 14

Uncoded says...

kenomeat wrote:
For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.
This comment just about sums up the mentality of UKIP voters.
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.[/p][/quote]This comment just about sums up the mentality of UKIP voters. Uncoded
  • Score: 1

1:12am Tue 24 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

Uncoded wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.
This comment just about sums up the mentality of UKIP voters.
Yes Uncoded, we must be mad for wanting our rules and regulations to be decided by our elected politicians rather than unelected foreign bureaucrats. That kind of thing smacks of democracy and we obviously can't have that!
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.[/p][/quote]This comment just about sums up the mentality of UKIP voters.[/p][/quote]Yes Uncoded, we must be mad for wanting our rules and regulations to be decided by our elected politicians rather than unelected foreign bureaucrats. That kind of thing smacks of democracy and we obviously can't have that! kenomeat
  • Score: 2

7:40am Tue 24 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.
This comment just about sums up the mentality of UKIP voters.
Yes Uncoded, we must be mad for wanting our rules and regulations to be decided by our elected politicians rather than unelected foreign bureaucrats. That kind of thing smacks of democracy and we obviously can't have that!
Having people like you make the decisions is bonkers Ken, especially if you're elected on the back of exploiting people's fears.
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake, it's not what the directives are about that matters, is that they are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats.[/p][/quote]This comment just about sums up the mentality of UKIP voters.[/p][/quote]Yes Uncoded, we must be mad for wanting our rules and regulations to be decided by our elected politicians rather than unelected foreign bureaucrats. That kind of thing smacks of democracy and we obviously can't have that![/p][/quote]Having people like you make the decisions is bonkers Ken, especially if you're elected on the back of exploiting people's fears. PageA
  • Score: 2

7:54pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Freeborn John says...

It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future. Freeborn John
  • Score: 2

9:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
Well said John. They have certainly got them rattled. Of course, if people knew the full extent of how much of our sovereignty we have conceded to Brussels then UKIP would win by a landslide next year.
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]Well said John. They have certainly got them rattled. Of course, if people knew the full extent of how much of our sovereignty we have conceded to Brussels then UKIP would win by a landslide next year. kenomeat
  • Score: 1

10:04pm Tue 24 Jun 14

PageA says...

Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots! PageA
  • Score: 1

10:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
Well said John. They have certainly got them rattled. Of course, if people knew the full extent of how much of our sovereignty we have conceded to Brussels then UKIP would win by a landslide next year.
Hahaha! ..Ken! Listen to yourself!

Do you really believe this?

It's a joke, you've been a plaything for the press. I'm sure the deals have been done
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]Well said John. They have certainly got them rattled. Of course, if people knew the full extent of how much of our sovereignty we have conceded to Brussels then UKIP would win by a landslide next year.[/p][/quote]Hahaha! ..Ken! Listen to yourself! Do you really believe this? It's a joke, you've been a plaything for the press. I'm sure the deals have been done PageA
  • Score: 1

11:01pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while. kenomeat
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Tue 24 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell. PageA
  • Score: 0

9:42am Wed 25 Jun 14

Uncoded says...

kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle?
Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain?
It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle? Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain? It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected. Uncoded
  • Score: 4

10:02am Wed 25 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.
If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.[/p][/quote]If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war? kenomeat
  • Score: -1

10:07am Wed 25 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

Uncoded wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle?
Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain?
It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.
The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press.
Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle? Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain? It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.[/p][/quote]The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press. Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press. kenomeat
  • Score: 1

1:10pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.
If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?
And what was life like for those who stayed at home and didn't fight?
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.[/p][/quote]If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?[/p][/quote]And what was life like for those who stayed at home and didn't fight? PageA
  • Score: 4

1:14pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle?
Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain?
It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.
The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press.
Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.
It's the way all the idiots gravitate to their ultimate resting place..UKIP Div Destination numbero uno! (..number one Ken)
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle? Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain? It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.[/p][/quote]The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press. Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.[/p][/quote]It's the way all the idiots gravitate to their ultimate resting place..UKIP Div Destination numbero uno! (..number one Ken) PageA
  • Score: 2

5:14pm Wed 25 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle?
Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain?
It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.
The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press.
Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.
It's the way all the idiots gravitate to their ultimate resting place..UKIP Div Destination numbero uno! (..number one Ken)
You make a fatuous comment which adds nothing to the debate Mr Page and yet get a score. Hardly seems fair.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle? Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain? It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.[/p][/quote]The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press. Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.[/p][/quote]It's the way all the idiots gravitate to their ultimate resting place..UKIP Div Destination numbero uno! (..number one Ken)[/p][/quote]You make a fatuous comment which adds nothing to the debate Mr Page and yet get a score. Hardly seems fair. kenomeat
  • Score: -1

6:16pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Freeborn John says...

kenomeat wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others.
As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle?
Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain?
It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.
The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press.
Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.
And there's the rub. I believe that UKIP, having filled its role as a safety valve, will be brought low before the next General Election.
Financial irregularities, internal feuds and the activities of a few loony councillors, all manufactured and blown up by the media, would be my guess.
On the subject of Labour party sex offenders, a website called Labour25.com gives an insight into their activities, but it's not for the easily shocked.
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]Ken, where do you stand on the water cycle? Is it evaporation and condensation that leads to precipitation (rainfall), or do you think along the same lines as UKIP and think that gay marriage causes rain? It would be interesting to see how this new water cycle would be taught at schools if UKIP were to ever get elected.[/p][/quote]The stupid remarks of one idiot are quoted as soon as he becomes a UKIP councillor. He was saying similar things as a Tory councillor before he joined UKIP but they were ignored by the press. Every party has a few eccentrics and UKIP certainly has a few, but by and large they are harmless. There are, however, a number of Labour councillors and activists who have been convicted of paedophile activities which, whilst reported in local newspapers, never reach the national press.[/p][/quote]And there's the rub. I believe that UKIP, having filled its role as a safety valve, will be brought low before the next General Election. Financial irregularities, internal feuds and the activities of a few loony councillors, all manufactured and blown up by the media, would be my guess. On the subject of Labour party sex offenders, a website called Labour25.com gives an insight into their activities, but it's not for the easily shocked. Freeborn John
  • Score: 0

6:37pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo!

Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken
My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo! Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken PageA
  • Score: 2

7:20pm Wed 25 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

PageA wrote:
My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo!

Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken
I do wish you would live in the real world Mr Page. Thanks to people who think like you we have a gradual but irreversible ghettoisation taking place in our major cities. It's a bit like Belfast but based on race. Have you even heard of white flight? But, as I've written previously, your point of view has triumphed in our country so well done. I hope you enjoy your socialist Utopia.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo! Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken[/p][/quote]I do wish you would live in the real world Mr Page. Thanks to people who think like you we have a gradual but irreversible ghettoisation taking place in our major cities. It's a bit like Belfast but based on race. Have you even heard of white flight? But, as I've written previously, your point of view has triumphed in our country so well done. I hope you enjoy your socialist Utopia. kenomeat
  • Score: 0

7:22pm Wed 25 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

PageA wrote:
My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo!

Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken
I do wish you would live in the real world Mr Page. Thanks to people who think like you we have a gradual but irreversible ghettoisation taking place in our major cities. It's a bit like Belfast but based on race. Have you even heard of white flight? But, as I've written previously, your point of view has triumphed in our country so well done. I hope you enjoy your socialist Utopia.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo! Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken[/p][/quote]I do wish you would live in the real world Mr Page. Thanks to people who think like you we have a gradual but irreversible ghettoisation taking place in our major cities. It's a bit like Belfast but based on race. Have you even heard of white flight? But, as I've written previously, your point of view has triumphed in our country so well done. I hope you enjoy your socialist Utopia. kenomeat
  • Score: 0

8:34pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Freeborn John says...

Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know!
There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...
Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know! There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have... Freeborn John
  • Score: -2

9:20pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo!

Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken
I do wish you would live in the real world Mr Page. Thanks to people who think like you we have a gradual but irreversible ghettoisation taking place in our major cities. It's a bit like Belfast but based on race. Have you even heard of white flight? But, as I've written previously, your point of view has triumphed in our country so well done. I hope you enjoy your socialist Utopia.
You think it's people like me that cause this?? I reckon it's more to do with people like Farage who feels 'uncomfortable' when he doesn't hear English on a train. What message does that send out? That we should feel uncomfortable near people who aren't speaking English!?! You're all nuts! Do you object to ghettos Ken? Let me ask you how you'd feel if 10 of those families came to live in your street. You happy with that? Street parties organised by you and mrs Ken? I doubt it...People live in ghettos because people like you think soldiers fought to keep this country British..Ken I worry for your eternal soul. You're not 'on brand' with this. If you are a church goer..stop. You're wasting your time. JC is very disappointed in you
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: My apolgies Ken, some of the things I write are for the debate and some are just t to let off a bit of steam. Just to clarify, iwasnt insulting you directly there Ken, just explaining some foreign lingo! Soon you will all return to being reular tories like freebrn john and ths will all be like a dream. A time when ignorant neanderthals got a chance to air their bigoted views and the other communities in the uk became a bit more frightened. Imagine that Ken, your kids scared to speak because their schoolmates call them immigrant! Behaviour learned by their stupid parents and grandarents and people in the local paper called Ken[/p][/quote]I do wish you would live in the real world Mr Page. Thanks to people who think like you we have a gradual but irreversible ghettoisation taking place in our major cities. It's a bit like Belfast but based on race. Have you even heard of white flight? But, as I've written previously, your point of view has triumphed in our country so well done. I hope you enjoy your socialist Utopia.[/p][/quote]You think it's people like me that cause this?? I reckon it's more to do with people like Farage who feels 'uncomfortable' when he doesn't hear English on a train. What message does that send out? That we should feel uncomfortable near people who aren't speaking English!?! You're all nuts! Do you object to ghettos Ken? Let me ask you how you'd feel if 10 of those families came to live in your street. You happy with that? Street parties organised by you and mrs Ken? I doubt it...People live in ghettos because people like you think soldiers fought to keep this country British..Ken I worry for your eternal soul. You're not 'on brand' with this. If you are a church goer..stop. You're wasting your time. JC is very disappointed in you PageA
  • Score: 0

9:30pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

Freeborn John wrote:
Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know!
There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...
Apologies Freeborn John, you're BNP..my mistake...and yours

Primary school governor is BNP candidate
3:48pm Tuesday 6th April 2010 in News
www.lancashiretelegr
aph.co.uk

Freeborn John
The last time I looked, being a member of a legitimate political party didn't bar one from being a school governor, in fact many governors are very active in local politics, keenly promoting their particular party agenda.
And that's the problem here...political infighting of the nastiest sort.
If Ms Kent has performed her duties as a governor properly up to now then there is no case to answer, those responsible for this ugly witch hunt should take their political feuding elsewhere and put their energy into the proper running of the school.
Isn't that what they're there for?
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know! There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...[/p][/quote]Apologies Freeborn John, you're BNP..my mistake...and yours Primary school governor is BNP candidate 3:48pm Tuesday 6th April 2010 in News www.lancashiretelegr aph.co.uk Freeborn John The last time I looked, being a member of a legitimate political party didn't bar one from being a school governor, in fact many governors are very active in local politics, keenly promoting their particular party agenda. And that's the problem here...political infighting of the nastiest sort. If Ms Kent has performed her duties as a governor properly up to now then there is no case to answer, those responsible for this ugly witch hunt should take their political feuding elsewhere and put their energy into the proper running of the school. Isn't that what they're there for? PageA
  • Score: 2

10:20pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Freeborn John says...

PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know!
There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...
Apologies Freeborn John, you're BNP..my mistake...and yours

Primary school governor is BNP candidate
3:48pm Tuesday 6th April 2010 in News
www.lancashiretelegr

aph.co.uk

Freeborn John
The last time I looked, being a member of a legitimate political party didn't bar one from being a school governor, in fact many governors are very active in local politics, keenly promoting their particular party agenda.
And that's the problem here...political infighting of the nastiest sort.
If Ms Kent has performed her duties as a governor properly up to now then there is no case to answer, those responsible for this ugly witch hunt should take their political feuding elsewhere and put their energy into the proper running of the school.
Isn't that what they're there for?
Thank you Pagey, I'd quite forgotten about that post, I'm still rather proud of it.
The sheer hypocrisy of that woman being hounded out of her position as a school governor by Labour apparatchiks who cheerfully shelter kiddie fiddlers within their ranks still gets my goat.
Yup, I like that post.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know! There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...[/p][/quote]Apologies Freeborn John, you're BNP..my mistake...and yours Primary school governor is BNP candidate 3:48pm Tuesday 6th April 2010 in News www.lancashiretelegr aph.co.uk Freeborn John The last time I looked, being a member of a legitimate political party didn't bar one from being a school governor, in fact many governors are very active in local politics, keenly promoting their particular party agenda. And that's the problem here...political infighting of the nastiest sort. If Ms Kent has performed her duties as a governor properly up to now then there is no case to answer, those responsible for this ugly witch hunt should take their political feuding elsewhere and put their energy into the proper running of the school. Isn't that what they're there for?[/p][/quote]Thank you Pagey, I'd quite forgotten about that post, I'm still rather proud of it. The sheer hypocrisy of that woman being hounded out of her position as a school governor by Labour apparatchiks who cheerfully shelter kiddie fiddlers within their ranks still gets my goat. Yup, I like that post. Freeborn John
  • Score: 0

10:55pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

Freeborn John wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know!
There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...
Apologies Freeborn John, you're BNP..my mistake...and yours

Primary school governor is BNP candidate
3:48pm Tuesday 6th April 2010 in News
www.lancashiretelegr


aph.co.uk

Freeborn John
The last time I looked, being a member of a legitimate political party didn't bar one from being a school governor, in fact many governors are very active in local politics, keenly promoting their particular party agenda.
And that's the problem here...political infighting of the nastiest sort.
If Ms Kent has performed her duties as a governor properly up to now then there is no case to answer, those responsible for this ugly witch hunt should take their political feuding elsewhere and put their energy into the proper running of the school.
Isn't that what they're there for?
Thank you Pagey, I'd quite forgotten about that post, I'm still rather proud of it.
The sheer hypocrisy of that woman being hounded out of her position as a school governor by Labour apparatchiks who cheerfully shelter kiddie fiddlers within their ranks still gets my goat.
Yup, I like that post.
Can you expand on 'cheerfully shelter kiddie fiddlers' please FBJ I feel a little out of the loop
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: Steady on there Pagey, regular Tory, I do have feelings you know! There's more chance of you voting Tory than I ever will, what a childlike view of politics you have...[/p][/quote]Apologies Freeborn John, you're BNP..my mistake...and yours Primary school governor is BNP candidate 3:48pm Tuesday 6th April 2010 in News www.lancashiretelegr aph.co.uk Freeborn John The last time I looked, being a member of a legitimate political party didn't bar one from being a school governor, in fact many governors are very active in local politics, keenly promoting their particular party agenda. And that's the problem here...political infighting of the nastiest sort. If Ms Kent has performed her duties as a governor properly up to now then there is no case to answer, those responsible for this ugly witch hunt should take their political feuding elsewhere and put their energy into the proper running of the school. Isn't that what they're there for?[/p][/quote]Thank you Pagey, I'd quite forgotten about that post, I'm still rather proud of it. The sheer hypocrisy of that woman being hounded out of her position as a school governor by Labour apparatchiks who cheerfully shelter kiddie fiddlers within their ranks still gets my goat. Yup, I like that post.[/p][/quote]Can you expand on 'cheerfully shelter kiddie fiddlers' please FBJ I feel a little out of the loop PageA
  • Score: 1

11:35pm Wed 25 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare.
Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.
Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago. kenomeat
  • Score: -1

11:56pm Wed 25 Jun 14

PageA says...

kenomeat wrote:
Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare.
Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.
I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.[/p][/quote]I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face. PageA
  • Score: 2

12:08am Thu 26 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare.
Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.
I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.
The French, Germans and Italians did everything they could to protect their major industries from Japanese competition. Their banks gave long term loans when necessary and their politicians made sure that take-overs were next to impossible. Our banks demanded quick returns on their investments and our politicians did nothing.to stem the flow of cheap imports. But the main problem was the communist trade union leaders who wanted to see British industry destroyed, even at the expense of their members' jobs. It took a Margaret Thatcher to reverse this but it happened far too late.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.[/p][/quote]I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.[/p][/quote]The French, Germans and Italians did everything they could to protect their major industries from Japanese competition. Their banks gave long term loans when necessary and their politicians made sure that take-overs were next to impossible. Our banks demanded quick returns on their investments and our politicians did nothing.to stem the flow of cheap imports. But the main problem was the communist trade union leaders who wanted to see British industry destroyed, even at the expense of their members' jobs. It took a Margaret Thatcher to reverse this but it happened far too late. kenomeat
  • Score: 1

1:02pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Universally Challenged says...

kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.
If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?
I thought they were volunteering to stop a xenophobic fascist regime that persecuted minorities such as the Jews and homosexuals from jack-booting over our fair land? I'd volunteer to try to stop that if it happened again. It can't happen again though. Can it?
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.[/p][/quote]If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?[/p][/quote]I thought they were volunteering to stop a xenophobic fascist regime that persecuted minorities such as the Jews and homosexuals from jack-booting over our fair land? I'd volunteer to try to stop that if it happened again. It can't happen again though. Can it? Universally Challenged
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Universally Challenged says...

kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote: Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.
I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.
The French, Germans and Italians did everything they could to protect their major industries from Japanese competition. Their banks gave long term loans when necessary and their politicians made sure that take-overs were next to impossible. Our banks demanded quick returns on their investments and our politicians did nothing.to stem the flow of cheap imports. But the main problem was the communist trade union leaders who wanted to see British industry destroyed, even at the expense of their members' jobs. It took a Margaret Thatcher to reverse this but it happened far too late.
Late 50's and 60's Britain was propped up by a massive loan from the USA - the world couldn't afford another impoverished nation ruined by war to slip into extremism again. We've only just finished paying it off - I'm sure it was in Obama's time in office but am not sure (it was recent though), so don't be under the illusion we were independent. Remember, the "special" relationship mainly swung one way - we've probably been "taking orders from foreigners" for quite some time. Plus, it was British citizens that allowed our American funded industries to wither away - and you want to split from the nations that had the foresight to look after their own?
[quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.[/p][/quote]I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.[/p][/quote]The French, Germans and Italians did everything they could to protect their major industries from Japanese competition. Their banks gave long term loans when necessary and their politicians made sure that take-overs were next to impossible. Our banks demanded quick returns on their investments and our politicians did nothing.to stem the flow of cheap imports. But the main problem was the communist trade union leaders who wanted to see British industry destroyed, even at the expense of their members' jobs. It took a Margaret Thatcher to reverse this but it happened far too late.[/p][/quote]Late 50's and 60's Britain was propped up by a massive loan from the USA - the world couldn't afford another impoverished nation ruined by war to slip into extremism again. We've only just finished paying it off - I'm sure it was in Obama's time in office but am not sure (it was recent though), so don't be under the illusion we were independent. Remember, the "special" relationship mainly swung one way - we've probably been "taking orders from foreigners" for quite some time. Plus, it was British citizens that allowed our American funded industries to wither away - and you want to split from the nations that had the foresight to look after their own? Universally Challenged
  • Score: 0

1:44pm Thu 26 Jun 14

kenomeat says...

Universally Challenged wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote: Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.
I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.
The French, Germans and Italians did everything they could to protect their major industries from Japanese competition. Their banks gave long term loans when necessary and their politicians made sure that take-overs were next to impossible. Our banks demanded quick returns on their investments and our politicians did nothing.to stem the flow of cheap imports. But the main problem was the communist trade union leaders who wanted to see British industry destroyed, even at the expense of their members' jobs. It took a Margaret Thatcher to reverse this but it happened far too late.
Late 50's and 60's Britain was propped up by a massive loan from the USA - the world couldn't afford another impoverished nation ruined by war to slip into extremism again. We've only just finished paying it off - I'm sure it was in Obama's time in office but am not sure (it was recent though), so don't be under the illusion we were independent. Remember, the "special" relationship mainly swung one way - we've probably been "taking orders from foreigners" for quite some time. Plus, it was British citizens that allowed our American funded industries to wither away - and you want to split from the nations that had the foresight to look after their own?
I agree with your comments about America and the debt. In fact the Yanks took all our gold and supplanted us as top dog in the world in return for armaments. But we could walk away at any time; not sure we will be allowed to leave the EU in the distant future. We need to leave now.
[quote][p][bold]Universally Challenged[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: Mr Page, let me paint a picture for you. It's one of Britain in the late 1950's to mid 1960's (i.e. when I was growing up). In those days Britain was one of the world leaders in motor car and motor bike manufacture, shipbuilding, locomotives, white goods, nuclear power technology, computers, power tools, hand tools and just about anything else you could name, all made in Britain by British-owned companies. Virtually all of that has now gone. We had the best education system in the world; now we are woefully low in the international league tables. Most importantly we had a largely unified community of shared religion and shared values. Of course it wasn't perfect but we felt that we had control and could ultimately change whatever was wrong in our society. The law was respected, punishment was harsh for wrong-doers (I'm old enough to remember capital punishment) but the prison population was less than half of what it is now. In fact, crime really was quite rare. Now, given that Britain has, in the last 50 years, virtually abandoned Christianity, loosened the bonds of marriage, made living on benefits a lifestyle choice, opened our borders to several million immigrants, abandoned the concept of meritocracy in our schools (all must win prizes), allowed nearly all our leading companies to be taken over by foreign conglomerates (who often close their British operations) and abandoned the concept of independence by subcontracting our law-making to Brussels. Please explain to me why Britain is a better place now than 50 years ago.[/p][/quote]I dont need to explain anything Ken. You use the word 'better' i use this one...'different' What happened in your lifetime? People started buying German and Japanese Cars and motorbikes..Why Ken? Why did your generation do this. Why did your generations start jumping on planes to Spain instead of going to Torquay? Why did you start buying in American Tv shows instead of sticking with Alf Garnett? I dont know Ken because i wasnt there but I'll have a guess....Because what you had was sh**!? Take off your rose tinted glasses, those days are gone and we have new challenges to face.[/p][/quote]The French, Germans and Italians did everything they could to protect their major industries from Japanese competition. Their banks gave long term loans when necessary and their politicians made sure that take-overs were next to impossible. Our banks demanded quick returns on their investments and our politicians did nothing.to stem the flow of cheap imports. But the main problem was the communist trade union leaders who wanted to see British industry destroyed, even at the expense of their members' jobs. It took a Margaret Thatcher to reverse this but it happened far too late.[/p][/quote]Late 50's and 60's Britain was propped up by a massive loan from the USA - the world couldn't afford another impoverished nation ruined by war to slip into extremism again. We've only just finished paying it off - I'm sure it was in Obama's time in office but am not sure (it was recent though), so don't be under the illusion we were independent. Remember, the "special" relationship mainly swung one way - we've probably been "taking orders from foreigners" for quite some time. Plus, it was British citizens that allowed our American funded industries to wither away - and you want to split from the nations that had the foresight to look after their own?[/p][/quote]I agree with your comments about America and the debt. In fact the Yanks took all our gold and supplanted us as top dog in the world in return for armaments. But we could walk away at any time; not sure we will be allowed to leave the EU in the distant future. We need to leave now. kenomeat
  • Score: 0

10:51pm Thu 26 Jun 14

PageA says...

Universally Challenged wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.
If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?
I thought they were volunteering to stop a xenophobic fascist regime that persecuted minorities such as the Jews and homosexuals from jack-booting over our fair land? I'd volunteer to try to stop that if it happened again. It can't happen again though. Can it?
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[quote][p][bold]Universally Challenged[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.[/p][/quote]If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?[/p][/quote]I thought they were volunteering to stop a xenophobic fascist regime that persecuted minorities such as the Jews and homosexuals from jack-booting over our fair land? I'd volunteer to try to stop that if it happened again. It can't happen again though. Can it?[/p][/quote]World...War...1 Read..a...Book PageA
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9:34am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rex Mundi says...

What happened to the original topic? From UKIP policy on landfill via WW1 to WW2 via paedophile councillors (for political balance see
http://truth-wars.co
.uk/forum/index.php?
topic=601.0 but I can't say how accurate it is)

Sort of back to topic - having cousins ruling the UK and Germany didn't stop WW1, and frankly to link WW1 deaths with UKIP policy on landfill is crazy corner stuff.
What happened to the original topic? From UKIP policy on landfill via WW1 to WW2 via paedophile councillors (for political balance see http://truth-wars.co .uk/forum/index.php? topic=601.0 but I can't say how accurate it is) Sort of back to topic - having cousins ruling the UK and Germany didn't stop WW1, and frankly to link WW1 deaths with UKIP policy on landfill is crazy corner stuff. Rex Mundi
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12:52pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Universally Challenged says...

PageA wrote:
Universally Challenged wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
kenomeat wrote:
PageA wrote:
Freeborn John wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.
I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots!
Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.
No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.
If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?
I thought they were volunteering to stop a xenophobic fascist regime that persecuted minorities such as the Jews and homosexuals from jack-booting over our fair land? I'd volunteer to try to stop that if it happened again. It can't happen again though. Can it?
World...War...1 Read..a...Book
Ha... ha... yeah... had... misread... that... originally... I... am... sorry.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Universally Challenged[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenomeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: It looks like UKIP rattled the opposition in the recent local elections, expect more shallow and childish sniping by the usual suspects in the future.[/p][/quote]I think I have a realistic outlook Freeborn John. The UKIP believers have a child-like view of the world. The environment wasnt a concern in 1950s Britain. So if we all click our heels together we can make it go away in 2014. Live guilt free with as much landfill as you like! Fill yer boots![/p][/quote]Actually PageA we have plenty of sites which could be used for landfill, namely former open cast mines which need to be filled in anyway. But I'm sure, as a keen environmentalist, that you never contribute to waste and always walk or cycle to your place of work. Perhaps you never use electricity. But, as ever, my point is that we, the British people, should decide whether we want dispose of waste in landfill and the idea of paying fines to the EU for breaking their landfill limits in our own country is abhorrent to me and to many others. As you know I've just been to the Ypres Salient and the Somme battlefields and seen countless thousands of graves of British and British Empire soldiers who gave their lives so that we, the British, would never have to take orders from foreigners. When you talk about waste and EU landfill directives just think about that for a while.[/p][/quote]No they didnt Ken. They died because they were told to go fight by people who didnt have the skills to talk and listen and disarm others or build trust. Or maybe it was the people who made the bullets and the boots...or people who were ignorant of other cultures to the extent that they'd sacrifice millions of young men just to keep the status quo for them and their kind. These people were on both sides and it's small people like them that shouldnt have a say in how the world is run. You've mentioned God in the past Ken but you're not a churchgoer I can tell.[/p][/quote]If they died because they were told to go and fight how come over a million volunteered in the first few months of the war?[/p][/quote]I thought they were volunteering to stop a xenophobic fascist regime that persecuted minorities such as the Jews and homosexuals from jack-booting over our fair land? I'd volunteer to try to stop that if it happened again. It can't happen again though. Can it?[/p][/quote]World...War...1 Read..a...Book[/p][/quote]Ha... ha... yeah... had... misread... that... originally... I... am... sorry. Universally Challenged
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