Less than we spend on booze

THE comments made by Steven Broomhead and Helen Jones MP indicate a worrying lack of knowledge about how HS2 will serve Warrington.

We were never going to be on the line directly, it would pass either to the east or west. The option chosen via Crewe means Warrington will be served by classic compatible trains that will travel only the last 20 miles or so over the existing 125mph line into Bank Quay. But it will be served, which Helen Jones implies is not the case. Further north, the next projection will not serve Wigan or Preston. As with Warrington it is not feasible to pass through the town centres. The north west suffers from having smaller towns and cities which HS2 cannot serve directly I suggest anyone interested in informed opinion to read the information on hs2.org.uk as to why the final route was chosen over the many looked at.

Doubtless UKIP and others will say we just cannot afford the line, but its yearly construction cost at £2 billion is less than we spend on pet food, one sixth of cigarettes, one 20th of alcohol and one 80th of defence equipment. This is not necessarily to decry these items, but to put the amount into perspective.

I sympathise with the villagers of Culcheth, but they will have the opportunity in the forthcoming consultation process to call for a green tunnel as provided many times in Kent on HS1.

ALLAN RALSTON

Callands

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10:41am Thu 14 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Irrelevent!


When I spend money on pet food, booze and fags I don't expect it to be paid for out of a public housekeeping account.


-nor expect valuable green areas to be destroyed to make it slightly quicker fro me to get to the shops.


(UKIP need to come clean - they would be happy for billions to be spent on new roads - it's just public transport they object to, not surprisingly for a right wing alternative to the tories)
Irrelevent! When I spend money on pet food, booze and fags I don't expect it to be paid for out of a public housekeeping account. -nor expect valuable green areas to be destroyed to make it slightly quicker fro me to get to the shops. (UKIP need to come clean - they would be happy for billions to be spent on new roads - it's just public transport they object to, not surprisingly for a right wing alternative to the tories) Nick Tessla

4:52pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Sankey says...

Whether it is the cost of pet food or garden furniture is not the issue but whether the benefits outweigh the costs. I remain unconvinced about that and I would not be surprised to see it quietly dropped under a new government I future especially as the 32 billion doubles or triples as it will you can bet on that one.
Whether it is the cost of pet food or garden furniture is not the issue but whether the benefits outweigh the costs. I remain unconvinced about that and I would not be surprised to see it quietly dropped under a new government I future especially as the 32 billion doubles or triples as it will you can bet on that one. Sankey

4:06pm Fri 15 Feb 13

HappyMisery says...

Another idiot with a skewed opinion because it's what they want.

Lets be clear Alan, its £2b being spent on something that the UK majority do not want or need. The £2b would be better spent on education, NHS or even donated to charitable organisations. This does nothing but serve the minority and saves TWENTY MINUTES journey time. If you believe that £2b to save 20 minutes is good value then I have a car I'd like to sell you.....
Another idiot with a skewed opinion because it's what they want. Lets be clear Alan, its £2b being spent on something that the UK majority do not want or need. The £2b would be better spent on education, NHS or even donated to charitable organisations. This does nothing but serve the minority and saves TWENTY MINUTES journey time. If you believe that £2b to save 20 minutes is good value then I have a car I'd like to sell you..... HappyMisery

4:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Nick Tessla says...

Oh and just a minor point for Alan - we do not suffer from having smaller towns - we are blessed with them.

If you think a smaller town is a problem then I suggest you *** off to that there London and save yourself having to get a train there.
Oh and just a minor point for Alan - we do not suffer from having smaller towns - we are blessed with them. If you think a smaller town is a problem then I suggest you *** off to that there London and save yourself having to get a train there. Nick Tessla

2:20pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Rowdie says...

HappyMisery wrote:
Another idiot with a skewed opinion because it's what they want.

Lets be clear Alan, its £2b being spent on something that the UK majority do not want or need. The £2b would be better spent on education, NHS or even donated to charitable organisations. This does nothing but serve the minority and saves TWENTY MINUTES journey time. If you believe that £2b to save 20 minutes is good value then I have a car I'd like to sell you.....
When was the last time 'Happy Misery' drove down to London and if recently and not in another 10years time I would suggest when he arrived he was anything but "Happy" but definitely more "Misery".
[quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: Another idiot with a skewed opinion because it's what they want. Lets be clear Alan, its £2b being spent on something that the UK majority do not want or need. The £2b would be better spent on education, NHS or even donated to charitable organisations. This does nothing but serve the minority and saves TWENTY MINUTES journey time. If you believe that £2b to save 20 minutes is good value then I have a car I'd like to sell you.....[/p][/quote]When was the last time 'Happy Misery' drove down to London and if recently and not in another 10years time I would suggest when he arrived he was anything but "Happy" but definitely more "Misery". Rowdie

2:20pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Rowdie says...

HappyMisery wrote:
Another idiot with a skewed opinion because it's what they want.

Lets be clear Alan, its £2b being spent on something that the UK majority do not want or need. The £2b would be better spent on education, NHS or even donated to charitable organisations. This does nothing but serve the minority and saves TWENTY MINUTES journey time. If you believe that £2b to save 20 minutes is good value then I have a car I'd like to sell you.....
When was the last time 'Happy Misery' drove down to London and if recently and not in another 10years time I would suggest when he arrived he was anything but "Happy" but definitely more "Misery".
[quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: Another idiot with a skewed opinion because it's what they want. Lets be clear Alan, its £2b being spent on something that the UK majority do not want or need. The £2b would be better spent on education, NHS or even donated to charitable organisations. This does nothing but serve the minority and saves TWENTY MINUTES journey time. If you believe that £2b to save 20 minutes is good value then I have a car I'd like to sell you.....[/p][/quote]When was the last time 'Happy Misery' drove down to London and if recently and not in another 10years time I would suggest when he arrived he was anything but "Happy" but definitely more "Misery". Rowdie

2:35pm Tue 26 Feb 13

SAC_in_Warrington says...

The project is happening, it has got the go ahead from "the powers that be." However the fine details have not been firmed up and confirmed, therefore that does provide an opportunity to campaign against the project as only a miniscule part of the outcomes will not be as currently suggested. I believe that all the benefits are merely projections and definitely not facts as that will have to be left to a wait and see and a fateful approach to our possible way of thinking.
The project is happening, it has got the go ahead from "the powers that be." However the fine details have not been firmed up and confirmed, therefore that does provide an opportunity to campaign against the project as only a miniscule part of the outcomes will not be as currently suggested. I believe that all the benefits are merely projections and definitely not facts as that will have to be left to a wait and see and a fateful approach to our possible way of thinking. SAC_in_Warrington

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