Last bid to keep vascular services in Warrington (From Warrington Guardian)
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Last bid to keep vascular services in Warrington
7:52am Monday 23rd July 2012 in News
A DECISION to move some vascular services from Warrington Hospital to Chester has been referred to health secretary Andrew Lansley.
The boards of NHS Merseyside and NHS Cheshire Warrington and Wirral had agreed to creating two new centres of excellence at the Liverpool Royal and Countess of Chester hospitals.
But a joint committee of councillors from Warrington, Halton and St Helens voted to send the decision to the Health Secretary after they objected to the move.
Clr Tony Higgins (LAB - Fairfield and Howley), chairman of the joint overview and scrutiny committee, said: “We are losing a service at Warrington Hospital, I want it to be returned there.
“Two hundred people on average are going to be inconvenienced going to Chester. That’s not acceptable.
“I said at the beginning of this process I’m determined to see this through to get the right result for Warrington. They were taken by surprise that we were going to take it to the secretary of
state.”
At a fractious meeting at the Town Hall on Thursday councillors questioned NHS officials about their decision - and raised their concerns about the implications for patients in the area.
Halton Clr Ellen Cargill said it would take residents up to an hour to get to Chester.
She also raised concerns about knock-on effects on other patients should an urgent transfer from Warrington Hospital be needed - with a medical crew including a doctor expected to travel with a
patient to Chester.
But NHS bosses said only three to four people a week would require the more complex surgery which would be on offer at Chester.
Paul Moody, consultant vascular surgeon at Warrington and Halton Hospitals, said: “I have great sympathy with the people who have transport issues.
“We probably see about 100 patients a week and don’t have to operate on that many.
“It is going to be troublesome for those who do have to travel to see there family members and we will try and reduce that.”
Peter Herring, chief executive of the Countess of Chester Hospital, added: “This is about improving clinical outcomes for our patients, this is incredibly complex surgery.”
Clr Wendy Johnson (LD - Grappenhall and Thelwall) called for regular updates on how transporting patients between the two hospitals was doing once the centre comes into operation - which is due in
April 2013.
But NHS bosses warned the plan could be delayed by the referral to Government.
Clr Higgins said the committee wanted the same, adding: “We need to get this resolved as quickly as possible. We don’t want this hanging over us.”
Councillors voted in favour of sending the decision to the secretary of state with Clr Johnson abstaining and Clr Jean Carter (LAB - Great Sankey South) voting against.
Comments(10)
chunkymunky
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1:18pm Mon 23 Jul 12
Karlar
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3:34pm Mon 23 Jul 12
chunkymunky wrote:Yes, the people on the Wirral are voicing similar protests over their vascular services facility being shifted from Arrowe Park Hospital to the new centres of excellence at the Liverpool Royal and Countess of Chester hospitals. We have to face facts and keep the lid on localism, when scarce, expensive, highly skilled resources are having to be allocated. This situation, for those old enough to remember, harks back to the days when routine medical procedures were carried out in the local cottage hospitals and specialist procedures were deployed at several larger other centres, each specializing in their own particular expertise. Which is more important the level of treatment for those who are ill, or easing the journey times for their visitors?
Not at all, evidence shows that by creating a regional centre of excellence care is better, tratment is better but most of all recovery is quicker!! the probalm is everybody wants everything on their doorstep!!
Boxerboy
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5:26pm Mon 23 Jul 12
Nick Tessla
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6:27pm Mon 23 Jul 12
chunkymunky wrote:Quite right chunkymunky, let's take more notice of the medical experts and less of politicians - local ones amd MPs
Not at all, evidence shows that by creating a regional centre of excellence care is better, tratment is better but most of all recovery is quicker!! the probalm is everybody wants everything on their doorstep!!
chunkymunky
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7:32pm Mon 23 Jul 12
Karlar wrote:Agree, the return of the local cottage hospital should be the way forward!!
chunkymunky wrote:Yes, the people on the Wirral are voicing similar protests over their vascular services facility being shifted from Arrowe Park Hospital to the new centres of excellence at the Liverpool Royal and Countess of Chester hospitals. We have to face facts and keep the lid on localism, when scarce, expensive, highly skilled resources are having to be allocated. This situation, for those old enough to remember, harks back to the days when routine medical procedures were carried out in the local cottage hospitals and specialist procedures were deployed at several larger other centres, each specializing in their own particular expertise. Which is more important the level of treatment for those who are ill, or easing the journey times for their visitors?
Not at all, evidence shows that by creating a regional centre of excellence care is better, tratment is better but most of all recovery is quicker!! the probalm is everybody wants everything on their doorstep!!
Boxerboy
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8:29pm Mon 23 Jul 12
Karlar
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12:36pm Tue 24 Jul 12
Boxerboy wrote:Where's the dismantling? They are using what limited cash they have - like the rest of us - for the good of the community at large which extends beyond Warrington. Is this not the epitome of socialism?
It seems to me that some people are quite happy about the systematic dismantling of the NHS ! Thank god for socialism
Nick Tessla
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12:47pm Tue 24 Jul 12
Boxerboy wrote:A clear example of the argument being based on political posturing and nothing to do with what really matters - the improved patient outcomes brought by the changes.
It seems to me that some people are quite happy about the systematic dismantling of the NHS ! Thank god for socialism
Boxerboy
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2:01pm Tue 24 Jul 12
Boxerboy says...
10:20am Mon 23 Jul 12