Cannabis found in school playground (From Warrington Guardian)

grey_man wrote:
Oh great. We're being spammed by the pro-cannabis lobby again.

So to sum up - yes, you have a case that it should be legalised. No, you don't have to crawl all over internet boring the arses off everybody.

grey_man wrote:
Apparently you're the one who needs to educated about what it means to be a parent. Unless of course you are arguing that primary school children should be allowed to use cannabis.

Why don't you contact some more spammers to agree with the original poster? I reckon if you could only add dozens of posts to the messageboard of a regional newspaper, it will be legalised before you know it. I happen to know that the Home Secretary, Health Minister and the Prime Minister himself read what minuscule flashmobs of monomaniac spammers have to say on the subject.

PoetPeter wrote:
I would be much, much more worried if they had found a bottle of vodka.

If we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market where it was available to adults only through licensed outlets then children would be much better protected.

The Maestro wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
I would be much, much more worried if they had found a bottle of vodka.

If we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market where it was available to adults only through licensed outlets then children would be much better protected.

Vodka is legal, cannabis isn't. I would be much much much happier is some pot smoking scum bag kept his/her filthy habbit away from primary school kids, and your vodka swigging mates as well.
"if we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market" so this is someone else's fault, not the law breaker? If you want to smoke yourself stupid go visit Holland.

LJ wrote:
Its always the same isn't it. People who don't see the need for cannabis are small minded, pityful, utterly confused, bigoted etc etc. Its not that they've got a life or more interesting things to do. Its every time a cannabis story appears on this website. I know I don't know anything about it, except that its use clearly makes people boring and repetetive, forcing them to stray from the main point of the story.

Parents are supposed to be concerned about their children. If they're not, they're not doing their job properly.

PoetPeter wrote:
"Grey" is very much the appropriate colour for you isn't it?

When people have a righteous cause to fight against misinformation and prejudice, it is good to see that the negativity, apathy and cyncism you preach is ignored.

grey_man wrote:
And oh look - another one pops up out of nowhere. At least we now know that SAT2 has three numbers in his phone.

grey_man wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
"Grey" is very much the appropriate colour for you isn't it?

When people have a righteous cause to fight against misinformation and prejudice, it is good to see that the negativity, apathy and cyncism you preach is ignored.

Didn't take long for it to get personal did it? I am not negative, apathetic or misinformed. I agree with you that it should be legalised. Doesn't give you the right to go trawling the internet spamming news stories.

grey_man wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
"Grey" is very much the appropriate colour for you isn't it?

When people have a righteous cause to fight against misinformation and prejudice, it is good to see that the negativity, apathy and cyncism you preach is ignored.

Didn't take long for it to get personal did it? I am not negative, apathetic or misinformed. I agree with you that it should be legalised. Doesn't give you the right to go trawling the internet spamming news stories.

grey_man wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
"Grey" is very much the appropriate colour for you isn't it?

When people have a righteous cause to fight against misinformation and prejudice, it is good to see that the negativity, apathy and cyncism you preach is ignored.

Didn't take long for it to get personal did it? I am not negative, apathetic or misinformed. I agree with you that it should be legalised. Doesn't give you the right to go trawling the internet spamming news stories.

SickAndTired2 wrote:

LJ wrote:
Its always the same isn't it. People who don't see the need for cannabis are small minded, pityful, utterly confused, bigoted etc etc. Its not that they've got a life or more interesting things to do. Its every time a cannabis story appears on this website. I know I don't know anything about it, except that its use clearly makes people boring and repetetive, forcing them to stray from the main point of the story.

Parents are supposed to be concerned about their children. If they're not, they're not doing their job properly.

Just look at the responses from the likes of Grey_man and theMaestro and tell me they offer anything of any substance to this debate.

The same with you, you claim to know nothing about it, yet in the same breath claim to know the characters of the very people can actually see all that is wrong with prohibition and the constant 'reefer madness' that is perpetuated by the media.

Parents have every right to be concerned for their children, who on earth on here is stating otherwise apart from people like you who interpret things to suit your own agenda?

It's when that concern is blurred by ignorance and misinformation that this concern becomes fuelled by fear.

Why should families be forced fed lies and propaganda and forced to live in fear of what has been proven time and again by medical science to be one of the benign and medically beneficial substances known to man?

A family that raises their children on lies and misinformation is certainly not doing their job properly.

PoetPeter wrote:

grey_man wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
"Grey" is very much the appropriate colour for you isn't it?

When people have a righteous cause to fight against misinformation and prejudice, it is good to see that the negativity, apathy and cyncism you preach is ignored.

Didn't take long for it to get personal did it? I am not negative, apathetic or misinformed. I agree with you that it should be legalised. Doesn't give you the right to go trawling the internet spamming news stories.

"Doesn't give you the right to go trawling the internet spamming news stories."

I have that right already!!

But that's not what I'm doing. I'm fighting back against the prejudice, misinformation and propaganda about cannabis that dominates the British press.

SickAndTired2 wrote:

grey_man wrote:
And oh look - another one pops up out of nowhere. At least we now know that SAT2 has three numbers in his phone.

Again. You are a small minded bigot with nothing of any substance to add. What a sad existence you must lead if trolling is about the only level of intellectual debate you can achieve.

focusonpeace wrote:
Did he not express his opinion stating he would rather see cannabis, that alcohol? After that you started having a go saying his comments are boring. If so why read them?

focusonpeace wrote:
Did he not express his opinion stating he would rather see cannabis, that alcohol? After that you started having a go saying his comments are boring. If so why read them?

grey_man wrote:

SickAndTired2 wrote:

grey_man wrote:
And oh look - another one pops up out of nowhere. At least we now know that SAT2 has three numbers in his phone.

Again. You are a small minded bigot with nothing of any substance to add. What a sad existence you must lead if trolling is about the only level of intellectual debate you can achieve.

SAT2. I'll say it again - I agree with you. I just don't agree with your methods and the little band of spammers who find their way on here.

SickAndTired2 wrote:
I'll tell you what, I'm off to the Ferry for a pint, if any of you have the courage of your convictions to come and debate this face to face with me, then I'll be there until around 9pm, in the beer garden on the first table nearest the path.

Cleopatra wrote:
WG mentions cannabis and all the pot heads come out of their hiding places once again, thinking if they post enough it will make the government legalise cannabis.
Well here's some news for you boys - they won't! No matter how many times you post your dross on here.

SickAndTired2 wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
I would be much, much more worried if they had found a bottle of vodka.

If we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market where it was available to adults only through licensed outlets then children would be much better protected.

Vodka is legal, cannabis isn't. I would be much much much happier is some pot smoking scum bag kept his/her filthy habbit away from primary school kids, and your vodka swigging mates as well.
"if we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market" so this is someone else's fault, not the law breaker? If you want to smoke yourself stupid go visit Holland.

And here we go with another utterly confused, bigoted and prejudiced individual who can do nothing but label normal people as 'scum bags'...

Another pitiful individual who wouldn't know the truth about cannabis if it squared up to him and hit him in hard in the face.

Cleopatra wrote:
WG mentions cannabis and all the pot heads come out of their hiding places once again, thinking if they post enough it will make the government legalise cannabis.
Well here's some news for you boys - they won't! No matter how many times you post your dross on here.

roadrunner wrote:
A class B drug is found in a primary school play ground and the usual band of Warrington class B drug users are making light of it.What sort of example are you setting to the very children who's play ground it was found in.....? You are a disgrace, the lot of you.

roadrunner wrote:
A class B drug is found in a primary school play ground and the usual band of Warrington class B drug users are making light of it.What sort of example are you setting to the very children who's play ground it was found in.....? You are a disgrace, the lot of you.

focusonpeace wrote:

roadrunner wrote:
A class B drug is found in a primary school play ground and the usual band of Warrington class B drug users are making light of it.What sort of example are you setting to the very children who's play ground it was found in.....? You are a disgrace, the lot of you.

I think the discussion has moved on, but thanks for the input

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:

roadrunner wrote:
A class B drug is found in a primary school play ground and the usual band of Warrington class B drug users are making light of it.What sort of example are you setting to the very children who's play ground it was found in.....? You are a disgrace, the lot of you.

I think the discussion has moved on, but thanks for the input

a) Where are you from? b) What attracted you to this website? C) When did you become a moderator?

Here are my guesses:

a) Guildford
b) Google Alerts
c) You're not

focusonpeace wrote:
Sorry that was aimed at 'The Maestro' as an attempt to correct his misinformation

Cleopatra wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
Sorry that was aimed at 'The Maestro' as an attempt to correct his misinformation

I beg to advise you that The Maestro is NOT misinformed. As someone who worked dealing with the public, I have witnessed for myself many herion (and other drugs) users who had graduated from cannabis. And many previouly clean and good living young people who became psychotic after some time using cannbis. So don't even try to convince me that cannabis is harmless. CANNABIS IS NOT HARMLESS!

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:

roadrunner wrote: A class B drug is found in a primary school play ground and the usual band of Warrington class B drug users are making light of it.What sort of example are you setting to the very children who's play ground it was found in.....? You are a disgrace, the lot of you.

I think the discussion has moved on, but thanks for the input

a) Where are you from? b) What attracted you to this website? C) When did you become a moderator? Here are my guesses: a) Guildford b) Google Alerts c) You're not

gerrumonside wrote:
"focusonpeace wrote
10:36pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Err, if your saying cannabis is a gateway drug then your wrong. Cannabis is not a gateway drug, most cannabis users dont even use alcohol let alone anything harder! The benefits of cannabis - CBD is effective in easing symptoms of a wide range of conditions, including rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, alcoholism, PTSD, epilepsy, antibiotic-resistant infections and neurological disorders. CBD has demonstrated neuroprotective effects, and its anti-cancer potential is currently being explored at several academic research centers in the U.S. and other countries. THC also offers many medicinal benefits for pain relief, for people suffering from epilepsy, Chrons disease, MS, MD and more. Dont forget about hemp...Most heroine addicts start of with cigarettes and booze as well, but no one goes on like tobacco and alcohol is a gateway drug"


WOW what an opener : "most cannabis users don’t even use alcohol let alone anything harder!"

unreal pal absolutely unreal……….. I believe you believe 100% in what you type that’s clear for all to see but in my opinion I believe it to be largely well written condescending rubbish.

My grandmother suffered for 40 years with rheumatoid arthritis are you suggesting she should have spent those 40 years high as kite smoking one of my Grandfathers woodbines laced with cannabis ….???? Have you any idea of the pain involved with serious rheumatoid arthritis? Can you explain the levels of “EASING” that Cannabis would provide….or would you simply find out, that “ CBD is effective in easing rheumatoid arthritis” in the same way a wet towel is effective in easing 3rd degree burns??

You are too ready to believe every desperate piece of journalism regarding its miracle properties. If you love Cannabis take it in your home just don’t pester everyone else….

Cleopatra wrote:
it has been said many times by the pot heads in these columns that cannabis is harmless so please do not try to say that nobody is saying it isn't harmless.

gerrumonside wrote:
Poet Peter not sure how I am misinformed? I havent stated any wild and fanciful facts like all the pro pot people do. (cannabis is safer Than Water is my personal favourite).
However I am unable to read "weedblog.com" at work but it sure sounds like it would be a really unbiased Piece of work I'll read it when I get home...

untill then I'll believe Cannabis is made from Jesus' tears and is a cure for Cancer, Dementia,MND, and Baldness......

focusonpeace wrote:
Sorry that was aimed at 'The Maestro' as an attempt to correct his misinformation

The Maestro wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
Sorry that was aimed at 'The Maestro' as an attempt to correct his misinformation

Thank you for your 'education'. As for it not being a gateway drug, some heroin addicts will tell you their drug problems began with smoking weed. As for the benefits of cannabis no doubt there is proven medical research however, for what I have read and understood into the findings, scientists are looking at the useful parts of the cannabis plant and don't say SMOKING weed is the right way to get the cannabis benefits you mention, the beneficial properties will be medically supllied as a tablet form not a small snap bag full. It is not uncommon for drugs to be delevoped from plants, opium poppies are used to make herion a class a drug that is illegal like cannabis, however, it is also used to make a perfectly legal and medically used tablet codine, used as a pain killer.
You have focused on the 'benefits', you have failed to mention the negatives such as mood swings, mental health problems, addiction etc. If you are going to present me with an argument for legalising cannabis please provide all the facts rather than a simple one sided argument, that way I can make an informed descision as to what I think should be done with the legal status. Lastly, if this drug is so beneficial why has the government not legalised it?

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

bga2007 wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
Sorry that was aimed at 'The Maestro' as an attempt to correct his misinformation

Thank you for your 'education'. As for it not being a gateway drug, some heroin addicts will tell you their drug problems began with smoking weed. As for the benefits of cannabis no doubt there is proven medical research however, for what I have read and understood into the findings, scientists are looking at the useful parts of the cannabis plant and don't say SMOKING weed is the right way to get the cannabis benefits you mention, the beneficial properties will be medically supllied as a tablet form not a small snap bag full. It is not uncommon for drugs to be delevoped from plants, opium poppies are used to make herion a class a drug that is illegal like cannabis, however, it is also used to make a perfectly legal and medically used tablet codine, used as a pain killer.
You have focused on the 'benefits', you have failed to mention the negatives such as mood swings, mental health problems, addiction etc. If you are going to present me with an argument for legalising cannabis please provide all the facts rather than a simple one sided argument, that way I can make an informed descision as to what I think should be done with the legal status. Lastly, if this drug is so beneficial why has the government not legalised it?

From my understanding of the scientific data cannabis is a very complex compound of which isolation of the active ingredients in the correct quantities to provide the medicinal benefits its very difficult hence the reason GW pharma (who hold an illegal monoply on uk cannabis production) have simply produced a tincture of scientifically grown skunk. The logical argument goes thus : why alter its chemical state if its natural state provides all the relevant benefits as professed by sufferers of a multitude of different illnesses? Why process a product that works very well for its intended process in its natural state? This adds cost and complication to the process? The negative elements or side effects that you describe are in no way worse than many know legally produced and regulated drugs that we use to treat illness. If its not broken why fix it? The majority of legal medical drugs have side effects that affect patients in a multitude of different ways some of which are much much worse than the cannabis plant.
As for why the government has not legalised it, this is a real enigma, there are many different theories reasons and professed truths on this area of the debate. I could chant off my own personal theories on this based on the reading I have done on the history of prohibition, however why should you take my word for it? You sound like a very reasonable and succinct individual who has more than the required mental capacity to research this independently as I have, but as a really good starter I suggest that you watch the film "The Union the business behind getting high" http://www.imdb.com/

title/tt1039647/ Whilst it is most definitely a piece of pro cannabis media it provides many avenues and ideas with which to conduct your own independent study of the available facts, its a sensible and well directed documentary.
One of the fundamental rules of investigative journalism is that if a story does not make sense you should follow the money and when you do this yourself independently you will find out why the government has not legalised it. The information you require to make your own logical decisions is available at your fingertips be wary be critical be curious and adopt a scientific methodology to both the medicinal and economic benefits for all, except huge business and I am sure you will arrive at a similar conclusion. Don't take my word for it and similarly don't take the governments word either...good luck

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

bga2007 wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

I know its frustrating but don't give up !! each mind set on its own voyage of discovery is a tiny victory for common sense and shared purpose of improving this country for all it's residents...

PoetPeter wrote:
The reasons that cannabis remains prohibited in Britain and which need to be overturned before we can progress to a rational policy are:

1. The power of the alcohol lobby
2. The power of the US prohibition industry
3. The Daily Mail campaign of lies, distortion and forged scientific evidence
4. Corrupt and cowardly politicans
5. The unlawful monopoly of medicinal cannabis granted to GW Pharmaceuticals.

Of course cannabis isn't harmless but comparatively it is very safe.

Professor Les Iversen, the government's chief drug advisor describes it "one of the safer recereational drugs". Professor Lester Grinspoon of Harvard Medical School says: “Out of all the drugs that are used for psychoactive effect, this is the least toxic, and has the least potential for harm.”

richierichie wrote:
I agree with Peter, a regulated market would see that people didn't feel the need to hide out of the way in (e.g.) a school playground to smoke cannabis and it would not be easily available to minors, much like alcohol which is now served with a 'challenge 21' policy. These 2 factors would, i feel, greatly reduce the chances of such a case being repeated.

grey_man wrote:

bga2007 wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

I know its frustrating but don't give up !! each mind set on its own voyage of discovery is a tiny victory for common sense and shared purpose of improving this country for all it's residents...

I hope you're not an English teacher. Maybe you could take your own tiny journey of discovery into the brave new world of the apostrophe.

PoetPeter wrote:

richierichie wrote:
I agree with Peter, a regulated market would see that people didn't feel the need to hide out of the way in (e.g.) a school playground to smoke cannabis and it would not be easily available to minors, much like alcohol which is now served with a 'challenge 21' policy. These 2 factors would, i feel, greatly reduce the chances of such a case being repeated.

@grey-man I agree entirely that "it's not a great thing when small children find cannabis in their school grounds."

I also agree with what richierichie wrote. You seem to be deliberately overlooking that.

I suggest that it is prohibition that led to the cannabis being found in the school grounds.

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

The joke started when some patronising saddo from South London thought the messageboard of a small regional newspaper a couple of hundred miles away was the ideal place to educate people he thought were less intelligent than him. But don't worry, the next time I get a bee in my bonnet about something that happens in Streatham, I'll be the first to make sure I put the locals straight.

focusonpeace wrote:

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

The joke started when some patronising saddo from South London thought the messageboard of a small regional newspaper a couple of hundred miles away was the ideal place to educate people he thought were less intelligent than him. But don't worry, the next time I get a bee in my bonnet about something that happens in Streatham, I'll be the first to make sure I put the locals straight.

Would you like to say all this to my face in person?

bga2007 wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
What a **** joke this comment thread has become.

The joke started when some patronising saddo from South London thought the messageboard of a small regional newspaper a couple of hundred miles away was the ideal place to educate people he thought were less intelligent than him. But don't worry, the next time I get a bee in my bonnet about something that happens in Streatham, I'll be the first to make sure I put the locals straight.

Would you like to say all this to my face in person?

I believe its a question not a threat, however I can see how you may construe it as a threat. A face to face meeting could be beneficial to both parties in terms of resolving the ill feeling that you seem to share. This is how I would deal with instances of cyber bullying, you could bring your parents if you like ;-) you both fundamentally agree on this issue, you have no fight with each other.

grey_man wrote:
I don't have to take anything anywhere else. I live here. You don't. It's none of your business what happens in Warrington's schools.

grey_man wrote:
Yes but that is not what this news story is about. It is about some cannabis being found on school premises. What I can't stand is people like you lot blundering blindly into any news story so much as mentioning the word 'cannabis' and then either (as SAT2 did) start verbally abusing a parent for saying she didn't want her children finding cannabis in the schoolyard, another person saying it was better than finding vodka or - presumably - a starved wolverine and a packet of anthrax, or people like you who seem reasonable but are completely off topic thanks to your mission to educate.

Cleopatra wrote:
Paranoia, a symptom of using cannabis. Hum....?

bga2007 wrote:

grey_man wrote:
Yes but that is not what this news story is about. It is about some cannabis being found on school premises. What I can't stand is people like you lot blundering blindly into any news story so much as mentioning the word 'cannabis' and then either (as SAT2 did) start verbally abusing a parent for saying she didn't want her children finding cannabis in the schoolyard, another person saying it was better than finding vodka or - presumably - a starved wolverine and a packet of anthrax, or people like you who seem reasonable but are completely off topic thanks to your mission to educate.

"people like you lot blundering blindly into any news story". I do not blunder nor am I blind nor do I accept that I am part of a "lot" (whatever that may mean). I don't condone nor ever will the verbal abuse of another because of their opinion, I may not agree with someones opinion but I will defend to the death their right to have it.

The reason this kind of story elicits such a response from the pro legalise lobby (perhaps this is the lot you refer to) is because it is part of the pro prohibitionists arsenal in subjugating the correct policy for this country. This kind of story strengthens public opinion by leading them to moral outrage, DRUGS AND SCHOOL how horrific lock everyone up who is a druggy, reefer mad no good waste of space, they want to damage our children how much more evidence do you need? This is the message that many will get from this story. however the facts and message are very different with a different outlook.
a)Children and staff here
have been commended for responding in exactly the right way
b) The level of education of the children was such that they sought the correct course of action
c) The head has minimised the impact of what is an isolated incident and therefore no cause for alarm.
d)There was no danger at any time for any of the children
e)The police have attended costing money to the taxpayer and potentially preventing them from stopping other citizens from coming to harm.
f)Had this been alcohol or tobacco or prescription medication, each of which has the potential for greater harm this story would not have made the news and the staff would have dealt with it accordingly.

As an educator my life is spent attempting to share what I know and more importantly giving people the tools to make up there own minds, I comment on many topics not just this one because I truly believe that the more time goes on the less able people are to unpick stories like this and see the real truth. As intelligent sentient beings I don't expect you to blindly follow my opinion, instead seek out subjective evidence for your selves and exercise your intrinsic ability to exercise logical and critical methodology to newspaper articles. After all the media is not here to provide us with truths, I would argue that instead its a vehicle for extracting our cash.

The Maestro wrote:

SickAndTired2 wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
I would be much, much more worried if they had found a bottle of vodka.

If we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market where it was available to adults only through licensed outlets then children would be much better protected.

Vodka is legal, cannabis isn't. I would be much much much happier is some pot smoking scum bag kept his/her filthy habbit away from primary school kids, and your vodka swigging mates as well.
"if we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market" so this is someone else's fault, not the law breaker? If you want to smoke yourself stupid go visit Holland.

And here we go with another utterly confused, bigoted and prejudiced individual who can do nothing but label normal people as 'scum bags'...

Another pitiful individual who wouldn't know the truth about cannabis if it squared up to him and hit him in hard in the face.

Have you ever met me? You feel the need to label some one else as a pitiful individual, why am I pitiful? is it because I don't smoke weed and think a person who can climb a fence into a school playgound to have a smoke which is illegal is scum?Why don't you try and explain the benefits of weed- can you also explain why a heroin addict will tell you his drug lifestyle started off on smoking weed?

Cleopatra wrote:
Nicely put, but there is seriously no point trying with those 'lot'.”


Well done FOP! You got the message at last - we don't want you sticking your nose into Warrington's affairs and trying to educate us to your opinions on cannabis. Good, now go and count your cannabis laced spliffs. Go sit in a corner and quietly smoke yourself into oblivion.

direwire wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

SickAndTired2 wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
I would be much, much more worried if they had found a bottle of vodka.

If we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market where it was available to adults only through licensed outlets then children would be much better protected.

Vodka is legal, cannabis isn't. I would be much much much happier is some pot smoking scum bag kept his/her filthy habbit away from primary school kids, and your vodka swigging mates as well.
"if we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market" so this is someone else's fault, not the law breaker? If you want to smoke yourself stupid go visit Holland.

And here we go with another utterly confused, bigoted and prejudiced individual who can do nothing but label normal people as 'scum bags'...

Another pitiful individual who wouldn't know the truth about cannabis if it squared up to him and hit him in hard in the face.

Have you ever met me? You feel the need to label some one else as a pitiful individual, why am I pitiful? is it because I don't smoke weed and think a person who can climb a fence into a school playgound to have a smoke which is illegal is scum?Why don't you try and explain the benefits of weed- can you also explain why a heroin addict will tell you his drug lifestyle started off on smoking weed?

The heroin addicted probably tried a drug called alcohol first but that doesn't matter does it

The Maestro wrote:

direwire wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

SickAndTired2 wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

PoetPeter wrote:
I would be much, much more worried if they had found a bottle of vodka.

If we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market where it was available to adults only through licensed outlets then children would be much better protected.

Vodka is legal, cannabis isn't. I would be much much much happier is some pot smoking scum bag kept his/her filthy habbit away from primary school kids, and your vodka swigging mates as well.
"if we had a responsibly regulated cannabis market" so this is someone else's fault, not the law breaker? If you want to smoke yourself stupid go visit Holland.

And here we go with another utterly confused, bigoted and prejudiced individual who can do nothing but label normal people as 'scum bags'...

Another pitiful individual who wouldn't know the truth about cannabis if it squared up to him and hit him in hard in the face.

Have you ever met me? You feel the need to label some one else as a pitiful individual, why am I pitiful? is it because I don't smoke weed and think a person who can climb a fence into a school playgound to have a smoke which is illegal is scum?Why don't you try and explain the benefits of weed- can you also explain why a heroin addict will tell you his drug lifestyle started off on smoking weed?

The heroin addicted probably tried a drug called alcohol first but that doesn't matter does it

my god where did you pop up from? My point was cannabis is ILLEGAL alcohol ISN'T, however, whatever your view point on this subject, an illegal substance was found in a school playground, if it was reported the legal substance was found I'm sure the pro weed or anti weed camps would feel the same IT IS WRONG! Strangly you say a heroin addict would have tried alcohol, have you meet a user? I have and his story started off on cannabis. Anyway what ever your view point had it been vodka, cannabis, a dirty needle, a pack of cigarettes etc etc, the point of the main article was to report on a mindless idiot using a primary school playground to use a drug, not spark a debate on the legalisation of canabis, until a change in law is made the persons who left this behind had commited a crimnal offence. One question for the pro canabis camp while I think on is, if canabis is legalised what makes you think the criminal gangs growing weed in home's etc will stop? surely this will continue as they will sell their produce cheaper than the regulated stuff? Its similar to alcohol and tobacco, both are regulated markets and yet people still smuggle the items in cheaper from abroad to sell cheaper that the uk prices

Cleopatra wrote:
Nicely put, but there is seriously no point trying with those 'lot'.”


Well done FOP! You got the message at last - we don't want you sticking your nose into Warrington's affairs and trying to educate us to your opinions on cannabis. Good, now go and count your cannabis laced spliffs. Go sit in a corner and quietly smoke yourself into oblivion.

focusonpeace wrote:

Cleopatra wrote: Paranoia, a symptom of using cannabis. Hum....?

Is ignorance a symptom of soberness?

Cleopatra wrote:
FOP, you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that prohibition gifts the criminals. It is the weak wh must have their fix that gifts the criminals.
I am fully aware of the pros and cons of cannabis use. I have read from users their beliefs that it is ok and safe to use but I have also read and listened to the words of professional medical experts who say it is a dangerous substance and I would rather believe them than 10,000 pot heads who live in airy fairy land.

Cleopatra wrote:
FOP, you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that prohibition gifts the criminals. It is the weak wh must have their fix that gifts the criminals.
I am fully aware of the pros and cons of cannabis use. I have read from users their beliefs that it is ok and safe to use but I have also read and listened to the words of professional medical experts who say it is a dangerous substance and I would rather believe them than 10,000 pot heads who live in airy fairy land.

focusonpeace wrote:
"Western governments ... will lose the war against dealers unless efforts are switched to prevention and therapy... All penalties for drug users should be dropped ... Making drug abuse a crime is useless and even dangerous ... Every year we seize more and more drugs and arrest more and more dealers but at the same time the quantity available in our countries still increases... Police are losing the drug battle worldwide."
- Raymond Kendall, secretary general of Interpol, January 1994

"The lesson has already been learned with alcohol prohibition. We tried to engineer an alcohol-free society and ended up with huge criminal enterprises, government corruption, children lured into organized crime and random violence that took the lives of countless innocent people."
- Kurt Schmoke, Mayor of Baltimore

"Freedom of consciousness and thought should be a fundamental liberty, yet this is what truly frightens those who favor the drug war. Cannabis is a powerful tool in exploring consciousness and reality, one that is healthy and safe for the vast majority. Those who would punish and imprison us for cannabis have been lied to and misled. Our task is to educate them with truth and love." - Paul Stanford

"If you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel." - Milton Friedman, Economist, Nobel Prize winner

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control mans' appetite through legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not even crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our Government was founded"
~President Abraham Lincoln (December 1840)

''I say legalize drugs because I want to see less drug abuse, not more. And I say legalize drugs because I want to see the criminals put out of business.''
~Edward Ellison, former Head of Scotland Yard's Antidrug Squad {Source: London's Daily Mail, March 10, 1998}

…marijuana is one of the safest, therapeutically active substances known to man.” – Judge Francis Young (DEA)

grey_man wrote:
Still here? What business is it of yours what happens in Warrington's schools?

Go on. Your desire to educate those of us not as intelligent as you lot means you can answer this.

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
"Western governments ... will lose the war against dealers unless efforts are switched to prevention and therapy... All penalties for drug users should be dropped ... Making drug abuse a crime is useless and even dangerous ... Every year we seize more and more drugs and arrest more and more dealers but at the same time the quantity available in our countries still increases... Police are losing the drug battle worldwide."
- Raymond Kendall, secretary general of Interpol, January 1994

"The lesson has already been learned with alcohol prohibition. We tried to engineer an alcohol-free society and ended up with huge criminal enterprises, government corruption, children lured into organized crime and random violence that took the lives of countless innocent people."
- Kurt Schmoke, Mayor of Baltimore

"Freedom of consciousness and thought should be a fundamental liberty, yet this is what truly frightens those who favor the drug war. Cannabis is a powerful tool in exploring consciousness and reality, one that is healthy and safe for the vast majority. Those who would punish and imprison us for cannabis have been lied to and misled. Our task is to educate them with truth and love." - Paul Stanford

"If you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel." - Milton Friedman, Economist, Nobel Prize winner

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control mans' appetite through legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not even crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our Government was founded"
~President Abraham Lincoln (December 1840)

''I say legalize drugs because I want to see less drug abuse, not more. And I say legalize drugs because I want to see the criminals put out of business.''
~Edward Ellison, former Head of Scotland Yard's Antidrug Squad {Source: London's Daily Mail, March 10, 1998}

…marijuana is one of the safest, therapeutically active substances known to man.” – Judge Francis Young (DEA)

Oh God. It was only a matter of time before the cutting and pasting started.

direwire wrote:
I wish we were all as clean Cleopatra and didn't touch a drop of alcohol or smoke anything :/

focusonpeace wrote:

grey_man wrote:

focusonpeace wrote:
"Western governments ... will lose the war against dealers unless efforts are switched to prevention and therapy... All penalties for drug users should be dropped ... Making drug abuse a crime is useless and even dangerous ... Every year we seize more and more drugs and arrest more and more dealers but at the same time the quantity available in our countries still increases... Police are losing the drug battle worldwide."
- Raymond Kendall, secretary general of Interpol, January 1994

"The lesson has already been learned with alcohol prohibition. We tried to engineer an alcohol-free society and ended up with huge criminal enterprises, government corruption, children lured into organized crime and random violence that took the lives of countless innocent people."
- Kurt Schmoke, Mayor of Baltimore

"Freedom of consciousness and thought should be a fundamental liberty, yet this is what truly frightens those who favor the drug war. Cannabis is a powerful tool in exploring consciousness and reality, one that is healthy and safe for the vast majority. Those who would punish and imprison us for cannabis have been lied to and misled. Our task is to educate them with truth and love." - Paul Stanford

"If you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel." - Milton Friedman, Economist, Nobel Prize winner

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control mans' appetite through legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not even crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our Government was founded"
~President Abraham Lincoln (December 1840)

''I say legalize drugs because I want to see less drug abuse, not more. And I say legalize drugs because I want to see the criminals put out of business.''
~Edward Ellison, former Head of Scotland Yard's Antidrug Squad {Source: London's Daily Mail, March 10, 1998}

…marijuana is one of the safest, therapeutically active substances known to man.” – Judge Francis Young (DEA)

Oh God. It was only a matter of time before the cutting and pasting started.

Would you prefer if i typed the quotes? What difference does it make? Such a negative bitter attitude.

bga2007 wrote:

grey_man wrote:
Still here? What business is it of yours what happens in Warrington's schools?

Go on. Your desire to educate those of us not as intelligent as you lot means you can answer this.

As a member of this country what happens with my taxes is my business, Warrington schools are paid for with taxes.

As a member of the education profession what happens in schools is of interest to me in terms of reflective practice.

I happen to care about the UK as a country and that includes Warrington.

For all you know I may live in Warrington.