Birchwoood man in court appearance for cannabis charge

A MAN who grew cannabis in his own wardrobe to feed his daily habit has escaped a prison sentence.

Warrington Magistrates Court heard on Thursday how Christoper Newton-Jordan, aged 22, of Redshank Lane, Birchwood cultivated the cannabis after researching how to do it on the internet. His property was searched by police in December and seven plants were recovered.

The court heard that Newton-Jordan started the ‘small scale operation’ because the defendant did not trust the quality of weed bought from dealers.

It was for his own personal use and he had not been dealing.

Newton-Jordan pleaded guilty to the cultivation of cannabis and court was adjourned until February 16 so the extent of his drug use could be assessed.

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5:48pm Mon 24 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.
Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story. ChrisNJ
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5:58pm Mon 24 Jan 11

chunkymunky says...

ChrisNJ wrote:
Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.
Chirs, you pleaded guilty of breaking the law, your name can be used legally in relation to the case in the interests of the public. After all i would want to know if someone who lived near me was cultivating drugs, for or not for 'personal use'!

End of the day you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution.....why shouldn't we know what criminal this money had to be wasted on??
[quote][p][bold]ChrisNJ[/bold] wrote: Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.[/p][/quote]Chirs, you pleaded guilty of breaking the law, your name can be used legally in relation to the case in the interests of the public. After all i would want to know if someone who lived near me was cultivating drugs, for or not for 'personal use'! End of the day you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution.....why shouldn't we know what criminal this money had to be wasted on?? chunkymunky
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6:07pm Mon 24 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

Criminal are you crazy? Im a 22 year old man, they wasnt even flowering or nothing, so nothing, you not think its a joke? theres better things that can be put on here than this. Theres far too many drug dealers on here etc, infact there was a guy in court before me on a dealing charge, why havent they been named and shamed?
Criminal are you crazy? Im a 22 year old man, they wasnt even flowering or nothing, so nothing, you not think its a joke? theres better things that can be put on here than this. Theres far too many drug dealers on here etc, infact there was a guy in court before me on a dealing charge, why havent they been named and shamed? ChrisNJ
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7:46pm Mon 24 Jan 11

Ralf G says...

You are right chunkymonkey, it was a waste of Police time and taxpayers money - Why do you need to know if somebody is growing cannabis for themselves? It's nothing to do with you.

There was no need for the newspaper to print this chaps full name.
You are right chunkymonkey, it was a waste of Police time and taxpayers money - Why do you need to know if somebody is growing cannabis for themselves? It's nothing to do with you. There was no need for the newspaper to print this chaps full name. Ralf G
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8:10pm Mon 24 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

Im more concerned about my nan and dad finding it out as obviously its something im not proud about either, but i wouldnt mind, when the police came, they knocked on, made no fuss whatsoever. NEVER arrested me, took me for a VOLUNTARY interview and dropped me back home. they came at 9am i was back home for 10.
Im more concerned about my nan and dad finding it out as obviously its something im not proud about either, but i wouldnt mind, when the police came, they knocked on, made no fuss whatsoever. NEVER arrested me, took me for a VOLUNTARY interview and dropped me back home. they came at 9am i was back home for 10. ChrisNJ
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8:11pm Mon 24 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

ChrisNJ wrote:
Criminal are you crazy? Im a 22 year old man, they wasnt even flowering or nothing, so nothing, you not think its a joke? theres better things that can be put on here than this. Theres far too many drug dealers on here etc, infact there was a guy in court before me on a dealing charge, why havent they been named and shamed?
ChrisNJ I applaud your efforts to grow your own. You had a few plants in a wardrobe, in your own home and were not harming anyone. Ralf G has it right, what an utter waste of police time criminalising someone for the choice of herbs they consume.

At the end of the day it is right that we should take control of the herbs that we choose to consume and take the control out of the hands of organised criminals that exploit the futile illegality of this plant.

The sooner this country wakes up and realises that cannabis is not the cause of societies problems the better. It's pathetic week after week drunken idiots commit crime after crime which involve real victims, yet an otherwise innocent man is criminalised for a peaceful pastime in his own home.

I find it equally hypocritical that the government freely allows the sale of high grade cannabis seeds, lights and all the associated hydroponic systems and feeds, yet growth of this plant is still a criminal offence.

People like chunkymunky who take the law at face value really should take off the blinkers and see just how screwed up our legal system is.

I'll light one up for you Chris. Keep on toking fella.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisNJ[/bold] wrote: Criminal are you crazy? Im a 22 year old man, they wasnt even flowering or nothing, so nothing, you not think its a joke? theres better things that can be put on here than this. Theres far too many drug dealers on here etc, infact there was a guy in court before me on a dealing charge, why havent they been named and shamed?[/p][/quote]ChrisNJ I applaud your efforts to grow your own. You had a few plants in a wardrobe, in your own home and were not harming anyone. Ralf G has it right, what an utter waste of police time criminalising someone for the choice of herbs they consume. At the end of the day it is right that we should take control of the herbs that we choose to consume and take the control out of the hands of organised criminals that exploit the futile illegality of this plant. The sooner this country wakes up and realises that cannabis is not the cause of societies problems the better. It's pathetic week after week drunken idiots commit crime after crime which involve real victims, yet an otherwise innocent man is criminalised for a peaceful pastime in his own home. I find it equally hypocritical that the government freely allows the sale of high grade cannabis seeds, lights and all the associated hydroponic systems and feeds, yet growth of this plant is still a criminal offence. People like chunkymunky who take the law at face value really should take off the blinkers and see just how screwed up our legal system is. I'll light one up for you Chris. Keep on toking fella. SickAndTired2
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11:51pm Mon 24 Jan 11

RevPaul says...

Yes this criminal grew a plant. Man has made God's creation illegal while alcohol and processed tobacco kill over 100 thousand UK citizens per year with the blessing of our just and unbiased laws. Our Government's leading Ministers admit cannabis use when students whilst demanding it remains illegal because it can only lead to idleness and dead end jobs. How long do we allow ourselves to be treated as idiots?
Yes this criminal grew a plant. Man has made God's creation illegal while alcohol and processed tobacco kill over 100 thousand UK citizens per year with the blessing of our just and unbiased laws. Our Government's leading Ministers admit cannabis use when students whilst demanding it remains illegal because it can only lead to idleness and dead end jobs. How long do we allow ourselves to be treated as idiots? RevPaul
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12:07am Tue 25 Jan 11

mary james says...

Good luck to you Chris. Be more careful next time, tell no one, carbon filter, don't get pulled in the street with weed in your pocket or roaches in your car ashtray, usual stuff.
it's all about survival.
Good luck to you Chris. Be more careful next time, tell no one, carbon filter, don't get pulled in the street with weed in your pocket or roaches in your car ashtray, usual stuff. it's all about survival. mary james
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12:11am Tue 25 Jan 11

mary james says...

...and now you know never, ever to trust the media to tell the truth - about anything.
...and now you know never, ever to trust the media to tell the truth - about anything. mary james
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1:45am Tue 25 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

For legal purposes i can't say why i was caught, or whatever, but it certainly wasnt the smell, im prepared to face any punishment, of course, just dont particularly like being made to sound like a "daily drug addicted jobless man" didnt realise i had to be pubically scrutinised also.
For legal purposes i can't say why i was caught, or whatever, but it certainly wasnt the smell, im prepared to face any punishment, of course, just dont particularly like being made to sound like a "daily drug addicted jobless man" didnt realise i had to be pubically scrutinised also. ChrisNJ
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8:51am Tue 25 Jan 11

silverlady54 says...

I'm not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of cannabis, but you clearly have an enterprising nature if you learned how to grow the plant yourself. Perhaps you could use those skills to do something similar for gainful employment? I wish you well, Chris.
I'm not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of cannabis, but you clearly have an enterprising nature if you learned how to grow the plant yourself. Perhaps you could use those skills to do something similar for gainful employment? I wish you well, Chris. silverlady54
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10:33am Tue 25 Jan 11

DaveWo says...

chunkymunky wrote:
ChrisNJ wrote:
Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.
Chirs, you pleaded guilty of breaking the law, your name can be used legally in relation to the case in the interests of the public. After all i would want to know if someone who lived near me was cultivating drugs, for or not for 'personal use'!

End of the day you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution.....why shouldn't we know what criminal this money had to be wasted on??
Why on earth would you want to know whether someone was cultivating drugs, for personal use? Would you want to know if someone had been brewing some homebrew on your street?
[quote][p][bold]chunkymunky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisNJ[/bold] wrote: Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.[/p][/quote]Chirs, you pleaded guilty of breaking the law, your name can be used legally in relation to the case in the interests of the public. After all i would want to know if someone who lived near me was cultivating drugs, for or not for 'personal use'! End of the day you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution.....why shouldn't we know what criminal this money had to be wasted on??[/p][/quote]Why on earth would you want to know whether someone was cultivating drugs, for personal use? Would you want to know if someone had been brewing some homebrew on your street? DaveWo
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3:40pm Tue 25 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

I'd understand this article if it was a big big grow and i had plans to become a drugs cartel or whatever, but it was 7 plants that wasnt even buddding flowering or nothing, I'd take any job whether it was shovelling rubbish for minimum wage, but i doubt ill be able get a job now with this shambles.
I'd understand this article if it was a big big grow and i had plans to become a drugs cartel or whatever, but it was 7 plants that wasnt even buddding flowering or nothing, I'd take any job whether it was shovelling rubbish for minimum wage, but i doubt ill be able get a job now with this shambles. ChrisNJ
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5:48pm Tue 25 Jan 11

chunkymunky says...

DaveWo wrote:
chunkymunky wrote:
ChrisNJ wrote: Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.
Chirs, you pleaded guilty of breaking the law, your name can be used legally in relation to the case in the interests of the public. After all i would want to know if someone who lived near me was cultivating drugs, for or not for 'personal use'! End of the day you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution.....why shouldn't we know what criminal this money had to be wasted on??
Why on earth would you want to know whether someone was cultivating drugs, for personal use? Would you want to know if someone had been brewing some homebrew on your street?
Last time i checked DaveWo home brewing wasnt illegal. Most of you seemed to have missed the point, do any of you know how much it costs to put someone through the criminal justice system? The CPS, administration, the officer, Judge, court staff all cost and are paid from the public purse. What enraged me about this was the follow on comment from Chris whinging on about the local press running a story and that his gran or dad will see it? No mention of a 'sorry' or 'how stupid was i' no it was basically a 'ohh poor me, it was only a little bit im not a druggue'! well good old saying of if you do the crime........you do the time, may that be custodial or social! And until many of you see the horrors that any drug use causes and costs then i suggest you return to your unreal blinkered worlds and carry on listening to the magic roundabout theme tune obviously running on an endless loop in your heads!
[quote][p][bold]DaveWo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunkymunky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisNJ[/bold] wrote: Firstly id like to make it clear it isnt a daily habit at all so dont make it out as if im a baghead or something, and secondly it would have been nice to have been notified that you were going to print my name etc, my elderly gran and/or my dad see this what are they going to think? Oh wait you don't think about that do you, just whats going to make a story.[/p][/quote]Chirs, you pleaded guilty of breaking the law, your name can be used legally in relation to the case in the interests of the public. After all i would want to know if someone who lived near me was cultivating drugs, for or not for 'personal use'! End of the day you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution.....why shouldn't we know what criminal this money had to be wasted on??[/p][/quote]Why on earth would you want to know whether someone was cultivating drugs, for personal use? Would you want to know if someone had been brewing some homebrew on your street?[/p][/quote]Last time i checked DaveWo home brewing wasnt illegal. Most of you seemed to have missed the point, do any of you know how much it costs to put someone through the criminal justice system? The CPS, administration, the officer, Judge, court staff all cost and are paid from the public purse. What enraged me about this was the follow on comment from Chris whinging on about the local press running a story and that his gran or dad will see it? No mention of a 'sorry' or 'how stupid was i' no it was basically a 'ohh poor me, it was only a little bit im not a druggue'! well good old saying of if you do the crime........you do the time, may that be custodial or social! And until many of you see the horrors that any drug use causes and costs then i suggest you return to your unreal blinkered worlds and carry on listening to the magic roundabout theme tune obviously running on an endless loop in your heads! chunkymunky
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9:26pm Tue 25 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

correct me if im wrong, but i actually wrote something above stating i was willing to take any punishment etc, of course i regret it and am sorry for it, but the fact it is why publicly scrutinise my name over 7 plants? its not exactly rich pickings is it?
correct me if im wrong, but i actually wrote something above stating i was willing to take any punishment etc, of course i regret it and am sorry for it, but the fact it is why publicly scrutinise my name over 7 plants? its not exactly rich pickings is it? ChrisNJ
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9:32pm Tue 25 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

What an absolutely narrow minded and moronic opinion you have chunkymunky. You have missed the point that all of us made as to why the police had to waste their time busting him in the first place when he wasn't doing any harm. The police themselves probably know what a waste of time it was but they, like the rest of us have to stick to these stupid outdated laws.

The CPS, administration, officers, judge, court staff, yes they all cost but for what exactly??

What exactly did this young man do other than to break a stupid and futile law that is based on propaganda and fear rather than solid facts backed up by evidence? What has he got to be sorry or admit to being stupid for?

It's not like he drank 10 pints and went out and stoved someone's head in like so many of the legal and socially acceptable 'druggies' that infest our town centre on a weekly basis. Who number far more and pose far more of a threat to society than a young man quietly cultivating a plant in his wardrobe.

Your attitude for labelling pot smokers as 'druggies' is pitiful. You can't label everyone a druggie because you'll be labelling everyone in the country except teatotalers as druggies too, whether they like a glass of wine or a nice spliff, legal or not they're all drugs!

Your good old saying is exactly that. Old. Just like your attitude towards what is and isn't right within society.

As for the many horrors that any drug use causes, I think you'll find that alcohol and tobacco have been scientifically proven to be even more harmful than even than heroin and crack cocaine!!! Only today, it's been announced that an increasing number of people in their twenties are suffering long term liver damage from alcohol!

To even put cannabis in anywhere near the same category of harm as alcohol, crack and heroin just shows you up for being ignorant.

So far from us being blinkered chunkymunky, it is you who needs to take off the blinkers and wise up to what is really going on in the world!!

Chris, maybe the Guardian enjoys stoking the cannabis debate? Enjoy your moment of infamy, most people who have commented will stand by what you have stood up for. If this sort of thing highlights the facts and exposes the ignorance of wider society then it's all good.
What an absolutely narrow minded and moronic opinion you have chunkymunky. You have missed the point that all of us made as to why the police had to waste their time busting him in the first place when he wasn't doing any harm. The police themselves probably know what a waste of time it was but they, like the rest of us have to stick to these stupid outdated laws. The CPS, administration, officers, judge, court staff, yes they all cost but for what exactly?? What exactly did this young man do other than to break a stupid and futile law that is based on propaganda and fear rather than solid facts backed up by evidence? What has he got to be sorry or admit to being stupid for? It's not like he drank 10 pints and went out and stoved someone's head in like so many of the legal and socially acceptable 'druggies' that infest our town centre on a weekly basis. Who number far more and pose far more of a threat to society than a young man quietly cultivating a plant in his wardrobe. Your attitude for labelling pot smokers as 'druggies' is pitiful. You can't label everyone a druggie because you'll be labelling everyone in the country except teatotalers as druggies too, whether they like a glass of wine or a nice spliff, legal or not they're all drugs! Your good old saying is exactly that. Old. Just like your attitude towards what is and isn't right within society. As for the many horrors that any drug use causes, I think you'll find that alcohol and tobacco have been scientifically proven to be even more harmful than even than heroin and crack cocaine!!! Only today, it's been announced that an increasing number of people in their twenties are suffering long term liver damage from alcohol! To even put cannabis in anywhere near the same category of harm as alcohol, crack and heroin just shows you up for being ignorant. So far from us being blinkered chunkymunky, it is you who needs to take off the blinkers and wise up to what is really going on in the world!! Chris, maybe the Guardian enjoys stoking the cannabis debate? Enjoy your moment of infamy, most people who have commented will stand by what you have stood up for. If this sort of thing highlights the facts and exposes the ignorance of wider society then it's all good. SickAndTired2
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6:05am Wed 26 Jan 11

grey_man says...

I don't see why anybody is having a go at the Guardian, most of all the guy who was growing the weed. Maybe the laws do need changing, but he broke them as they stand and the Guardian reported on it. It's a local paper and this is clearly a story worth covering. He seems a reasonable lad but reasonable, nice people break the law sometimes. It's not up to them to dictate what the editor of a paper decides is newsworthy.
I don't see why anybody is having a go at the Guardian, most of all the guy who was growing the weed. Maybe the laws do need changing, but he broke them as they stand and the Guardian reported on it. It's a local paper and this is clearly a story worth covering. He seems a reasonable lad but reasonable, nice people break the law sometimes. It's not up to them to dictate what the editor of a paper decides is newsworthy. grey_man
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8:13am Wed 26 Jan 11

zedster says...

Small amount, personal use, not doing any harm....!?
Ever heard of the phrase "From tiny acorns grow mighty oaks"...
Well, who is to say that this would not have grown into something bigger.
If he had got away with growing a few plants, whay not a few more, and some more and so on...

Anyway, what if we applied some of the stupid logic (shown in other posts) to other laws...
"Your worship, I was only doing 35mph in a 30mph zone when I killed that child. It's not like I was doing 60!"

Get it into your heads...it is against the law....no matter how small...!

If you can't to the time, don't do the crime!!!
Small amount, personal use, not doing any harm....!? Ever heard of the phrase "From tiny acorns grow mighty oaks"... Well, who is to say that this would not have grown into something bigger. If he had got away with growing a few plants, whay not a few more, and some more and so on... Anyway, what if we applied some of the stupid logic (shown in other posts) to other laws... "Your worship, I was only doing 35mph in a 30mph zone when I killed that child. It's not like I was doing 60!" Get it into your heads...it is against the law....no matter how small...! If you can't to the time, don't do the crime!!! zedster
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10:42am Wed 26 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

zedster wrote:
Small amount, personal use, not doing any harm....!?
Ever heard of the phrase "From tiny acorns grow mighty oaks"...
Well, who is to say that this would not have grown into something bigger.
If he had got away with growing a few plants, whay not a few more, and some more and so on...

Anyway, what if we applied some of the stupid logic (shown in other posts) to other laws...
"Your worship, I was only doing 35mph in a 30mph zone when I killed that child. It's not like I was doing 60!"

Get it into your heads...it is against the law....no matter how small...!

If you can't to the time, don't do the crime!!!
Stupid logic?! By your 'stupid logic' you're saying that all pot smokers will become drug crazed criminals or will go on to grow warehouse sized crops? Get real.

As for your application of our 'stupid logic' to a case of death by dangerous driving, seriously you really needs to have a word with yourself, that is about as low and as stupid as you can get when trying to argue for the criminalisation of cannabis smokers. What an utter clown you are.

We are fully aware that it is against the law, what people like you need to get into your apparently thick heads, is that the law is wrong and goes completely against scientific fact!

No amount of backward minded, blinkered opinions like yours will make us see different.

I feel sorry for people like you, who are spoon fed everything they know from the government and obey it without question. You are a perfect example of what this government wants, a population which is brainwashed by malicious propaganda to serve their own ends. Congratulations.
[quote][p][bold]zedster[/bold] wrote: Small amount, personal use, not doing any harm....!? Ever heard of the phrase "From tiny acorns grow mighty oaks"... Well, who is to say that this would not have grown into something bigger. If he had got away with growing a few plants, whay not a few more, and some more and so on... Anyway, what if we applied some of the stupid logic (shown in other posts) to other laws... "Your worship, I was only doing 35mph in a 30mph zone when I killed that child. It's not like I was doing 60!" Get it into your heads...it is against the law....no matter how small...! If you can't to the time, don't do the crime!!![/p][/quote]Stupid logic?! By your 'stupid logic' you're saying that all pot smokers will become drug crazed criminals or will go on to grow warehouse sized crops? Get real. As for your application of our 'stupid logic' to a case of death by dangerous driving, seriously you really needs to have a word with yourself, that is about as low and as stupid as you can get when trying to argue for the criminalisation of cannabis smokers. What an utter clown you are. We are fully aware that it is against the law, what people like you need to get into your apparently thick heads, is that the law is wrong and goes completely against scientific fact! No amount of backward minded, blinkered opinions like yours will make us see different. I feel sorry for people like you, who are spoon fed everything they know from the government and obey it without question. You are a perfect example of what this government wants, a population which is brainwashed by malicious propaganda to serve their own ends. Congratulations. SickAndTired2
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10:44am Wed 26 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

grey_man wrote:
I don't see why anybody is having a go at the Guardian, most of all the guy who was growing the weed. Maybe the laws do need changing, but he broke them as they stand and the Guardian reported on it. It's a local paper and this is clearly a story worth covering. He seems a reasonable lad but reasonable, nice people break the law sometimes. It's not up to them to dictate what the editor of a paper decides is newsworthy.
When there are far more serious issues going on in the town, the printing of a story of such insignificance in comparison makes you wonder what the motives of the Guardian are for printing it in the first place. Especially when we have sex attackers, drunken yobs, burglars and all manner of other issues going on in the town which do actually have a detrimental effect on society.

Perhaps Mr Dunning would like to clarify why he felt this story was newsworthy?
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: I don't see why anybody is having a go at the Guardian, most of all the guy who was growing the weed. Maybe the laws do need changing, but he broke them as they stand and the Guardian reported on it. It's a local paper and this is clearly a story worth covering. He seems a reasonable lad but reasonable, nice people break the law sometimes. It's not up to them to dictate what the editor of a paper decides is newsworthy.[/p][/quote]When there are far more serious issues going on in the town, the printing of a story of such insignificance in comparison makes you wonder what the motives of the Guardian are for printing it in the first place. Especially when we have sex attackers, drunken yobs, burglars and all manner of other issues going on in the town which do actually have a detrimental effect on society. Perhaps Mr Dunning would like to clarify why he felt this story was newsworthy? SickAndTired2
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1:09pm Wed 26 Jan 11

gdunning says...

Hello
Thanks for all your e-mails.
Just a few points to clarify.
Firstly, there is nothing inaccurate in the report. It is a fair and accurate report of a court hearing.
Secondly, we haven't covered this in preference to any other case - simply in addition to it. So you aren't missing any other report to read this.
We cover the courts on a regular basis and you will read many different cases both online and in the paper.
Whatever the arguments for or against cannabis use, at the moment it is illegal in this country and if the police and crown prosecution service decides that there is a case to be answered, then someone will appear before the courts.
And in a free and democratic country, those courts are open hearings and held in public, and as a local newspaper we have the right to report on what happens.
And we will continue to report on cases in court as is our duty.
I hope this clarifies the situation a little.
Gareth Dunning
News Editor
Hello Thanks for all your e-mails. Just a few points to clarify. Firstly, there is nothing inaccurate in the report. It is a fair and accurate report of a court hearing. Secondly, we haven't covered this in preference to any other case - simply in addition to it. So you aren't missing any other report to read this. We cover the courts on a regular basis and you will read many different cases both online and in the paper. Whatever the arguments for or against cannabis use, at the moment it is illegal in this country and if the police and crown prosecution service decides that there is a case to be answered, then someone will appear before the courts. And in a free and democratic country, those courts are open hearings and held in public, and as a local newspaper we have the right to report on what happens. And we will continue to report on cases in court as is our duty. I hope this clarifies the situation a little. Gareth Dunning News Editor gdunning
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1:31pm Wed 26 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

Nothing inaccurate in the report? I DONT have a daily habit, i smoke a spliff every other day. and secondly why post that yet fail to mention (which was mentioned in court also) that i wasn't arrested, my door didn't get burst through and that i went for a voluntary interview.

Of course i regret it, and certainly had no plans to expand once this was done, i had my reasons for doing what i did, maybe if there was more jobs i wouldnt have been so bored in the first place.
Nothing inaccurate in the report? I DONT have a daily habit, i smoke a spliff every other day. and secondly why post that yet fail to mention (which was mentioned in court also) that i wasn't arrested, my door didn't get burst through and that i went for a voluntary interview. Of course i regret it, and certainly had no plans to expand once this was done, i had my reasons for doing what i did, maybe if there was more jobs i wouldnt have been so bored in the first place. ChrisNJ
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2:05pm Wed 26 Jan 11

chunkymunky says...

"maybe if there was more jobs i wouldnt have been so bored in the first place" HA HA HA.....ohhh excuses excuses excuses "ohh honestly your honour.....its not my fault you see....."
"maybe if there was more jobs i wouldnt have been so bored in the first place" HA HA HA.....ohhh excuses excuses excuses "ohh honestly your honour.....its not my fault you see....." chunkymunky
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2:53pm Wed 26 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

Of course its my fault, i've accepted responsibility, said i'll take the punishment, what more do you want?
Of course its my fault, i've accepted responsibility, said i'll take the punishment, what more do you want? ChrisNJ
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4:21pm Wed 26 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

I notice that chunkymunky has failed to acknowledge any of the points I raised in his bilious diatribe. Not so mouthy when faced with facts are you.
I notice that chunkymunky has failed to acknowledge any of the points I raised in his bilious diatribe. Not so mouthy when faced with facts are you. SickAndTired2
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5:10pm Wed 26 Jan 11

pognoogle says...

whether you think cannabis should be legalised or not, this guy has a kid and should be trying to be a responsible parent rather than sitting round and growing weed. smoking a spliff everyother day rather than every day isn't really something to brag about, and as for 'no jobs out there' blahblahblah, maybe you should try to make more of an effort, stop 'justifying' your illegal action, stop making excuses, and think about your child's future!
whether you think cannabis should be legalised or not, this guy has a kid and should be trying to be a responsible parent rather than sitting round and growing weed. smoking a spliff everyother day rather than every day isn't really something to brag about, and as for 'no jobs out there' blahblahblah, maybe you should try to make more of an effort, stop 'justifying' your illegal action, stop making excuses, and think about your child's future! pognoogle
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7:01pm Wed 26 Jan 11

chunkymunky says...

Sickandtired2, you right i have failed to answer your questions today due to the fact im not sat on my chuff with nothing better to do with my day, unlike many of us who are evidently in work.

You talk about scientific and political bias yet you offer no references or support for this??? why is that?? are you going to bang on about causal effects and clinical and blind trials or are you going to make a pitiful attempt to blunder your way through by stating 'ohh its all proparganda' without actually offering any evidenace that this is the case? maybe do what most 'internet scientists' do and go get jiggy with google and wikipedia and think you know what your banging on about.

"What exactly did this young man do other than to break a stupid and futile law "....well i think you have answered your own question there really havnt you? do go have a lay down before your heart valves pop out of place and try to keep up.

However sickandtired (i can see how the name fits what with your constant epic release of adrenalin and endorphines with anger) i return to what i intially pointed out, he moaned his name was cited in the paper, i simply pointed out its very fair, end off!
Sickandtired2, you right i have failed to answer your questions today due to the fact im not sat on my chuff with nothing better to do with my day, unlike many of us who are evidently in work. You talk about scientific and political bias yet you offer no references or support for this??? why is that?? are you going to bang on about causal effects and clinical and blind trials or are you going to make a pitiful attempt to blunder your way through by stating 'ohh its all proparganda' without actually offering any evidenace that this is the case? maybe do what most 'internet scientists' do and go get jiggy with google and wikipedia and think you know what your banging on about. "What exactly did this young man do other than to break a stupid and futile law "....well i think you have answered your own question there really havnt you? do go have a lay down before your heart valves pop out of place and try to keep up. However sickandtired (i can see how the name fits what with your constant epic release of adrenalin and endorphines with anger) i return to what i intially pointed out, he moaned his name was cited in the paper, i simply pointed out its very fair, end off! chunkymunky
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8:54pm Fri 28 Jan 11

local man says...

wow - the most comments ive ever seen. I thought the government were backing a grow your own campaign ? http://www.rhs.org.u
k/Gardening/Grow-You
r-Own

If you cant do the time...
wow - the most comments ive ever seen. I thought the government were backing a grow your own campaign ? http://www.rhs.org.u k/Gardening/Grow-You r-Own If you cant do the time... local man
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9:37pm Fri 28 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

chunkymunky wrote:
Sickandtired2, you right i have failed to answer your questions today due to the fact im not sat on my chuff with nothing better to do with my day, unlike many of us who are evidently in work.

You talk about scientific and political bias yet you offer no references or support for this??? why is that?? are you going to bang on about causal effects and clinical and blind trials or are you going to make a pitiful attempt to blunder your way through by stating 'ohh its all proparganda' without actually offering any evidenace that this is the case? maybe do what most 'internet scientists' do and go get jiggy with google and wikipedia and think you know what your banging on about.

"What exactly did this young man do other than to break a stupid and futile law "....well i think you have answered your own question there really havnt you? do go have a lay down before your heart valves pop out of place and try to keep up.

However sickandtired (i can see how the name fits what with your constant epic release of adrenalin and endorphines with anger) i return to what i intially pointed out, he moaned his name was cited in the paper, i simply pointed out its very fair, end off!
Chunkymunky, I do not need to offer scientific reference to you when the governments own chief drug advisor has published his own studies which have been well publicised.

As for questioning me sat around on my chuff acting the internet scientist while getting jiggy with google, that's the sort of sweeping generalisation that only a complete ignoramus would make.

As you've got nothing of any real substance to add to this topic anyway, perhaps it's you that needs a lie down.
[quote][p][bold]chunkymunky[/bold] wrote: Sickandtired2, you right i have failed to answer your questions today due to the fact im not sat on my chuff with nothing better to do with my day, unlike many of us who are evidently in work. You talk about scientific and political bias yet you offer no references or support for this??? why is that?? are you going to bang on about causal effects and clinical and blind trials or are you going to make a pitiful attempt to blunder your way through by stating 'ohh its all proparganda' without actually offering any evidenace that this is the case? maybe do what most 'internet scientists' do and go get jiggy with google and wikipedia and think you know what your banging on about. "What exactly did this young man do other than to break a stupid and futile law "....well i think you have answered your own question there really havnt you? do go have a lay down before your heart valves pop out of place and try to keep up. However sickandtired (i can see how the name fits what with your constant epic release of adrenalin and endorphines with anger) i return to what i intially pointed out, he moaned his name was cited in the paper, i simply pointed out its very fair, end off![/p][/quote]Chunkymunky, I do not need to offer scientific reference to you when the governments own chief drug advisor has published his own studies which have been well publicised. As for questioning me sat around on my chuff acting the internet scientist while getting jiggy with google, that's the sort of sweeping generalisation that only a complete ignoramus would make. As you've got nothing of any real substance to add to this topic anyway, perhaps it's you that needs a lie down. SickAndTired2
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10:06pm Fri 28 Jan 11

toffeeman_4ever says...

Good luck Chris!!! I'd rather read about crack and heroin dealers being caught and dealt with properly by the courts.....a bit of dope never did me any harm in my student days!!!!
Good luck Chris!!! I'd rather read about crack and heroin dealers being caught and dealt with properly by the courts.....a bit of dope never did me any harm in my student days!!!! toffeeman_4ever
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10:54pm Fri 28 Jan 11

neil9327 says...

ChunkyMonkey said: "you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution....."

That is the crux of the problem. Public money did NOT have to be spent on this prosecution, because in all cases the CPS and police need to determine whether the prosecution is in the public interest. And in this case it clearly wasn't, because the young man was obviously acting in a responsible manner, not threatening or harming any third parties.

The attitude of people such as chunkymonkey goes a long way towards explaining why were are in the economic mess we find ourselves at the moment; persecution of productive members of society such as this young man, at the cost of running up a huge public-sector bill from his prosecution.

Yeah return to your "job" chunkymonkey - it's probably a cushy local government position that is liable to be cut in the not too distant future.
ChunkyMonkey said: "you broke the law and public monies had to be spent in your prosecution....." That is the crux of the problem. Public money did NOT have to be spent on this prosecution, because in all cases the CPS and police need to determine whether the prosecution is in the public interest. And in this case it clearly wasn't, because the young man was obviously acting in a responsible manner, not threatening or harming any third parties. The attitude of people such as chunkymonkey goes a long way towards explaining why were are in the economic mess we find ourselves at the moment; persecution of productive members of society such as this young man, at the cost of running up a huge public-sector bill from his prosecution. Yeah return to your "job" chunkymonkey - it's probably a cushy local government position that is liable to be cut in the not too distant future. neil9327
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12:15am Sat 29 Jan 11

PlatoSays says...

Pharmaceutical companies and breweries lobby and bribe politicians to ignore a wealth of scientific evidence that shows cannabis to be less of a health risk than eating too much junk food (ChunkeyMonkey) but the real fact is, cannabis has several medical benefits. Judges, lawyers, the police etc. also make a tidy living from this and many other contrived laws. People in the UK have less and less freedom, are encouraged to live in a constant state of fear, some even reduced to growing a garden in a wardrobe (sic) and then be accused of being paranoid, while voting is the new opiate of the masses.
Pharmaceutical companies and breweries lobby and bribe politicians to ignore a wealth of scientific evidence that shows cannabis to be less of a health risk than eating too much junk food (ChunkeyMonkey) but the real fact is, cannabis has several medical benefits. Judges, lawyers, the police etc. also make a tidy living from this and many other contrived laws. People in the UK have less and less freedom, are encouraged to live in a constant state of fear, some even reduced to growing a garden in a wardrobe (sic) and then be accused of being paranoid, while voting is the new opiate of the masses. PlatoSays
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10:18am Sun 30 Jan 11

SickAndTired2 says...

PlatoSays wrote:
Pharmaceutical companies and breweries lobby and bribe politicians to ignore a wealth of scientific evidence that shows cannabis to be less of a health risk than eating too much junk food (ChunkeyMonkey) but the real fact is, cannabis has several medical benefits. Judges, lawyers, the police etc. also make a tidy living from this and many other contrived laws. People in the UK have less and less freedom, are encouraged to live in a constant state of fear, some even reduced to growing a garden in a wardrobe (sic) and then be accused of being paranoid, while voting is the new opiate of the masses.
Beautifully put PlatoSays. This is exactly what our governments are doing to us. The medical use of marijuana also has the potential to jeopardise the profits of unscrupulous drug firms who depend on keeping our populations sick for their profits.

The positive uses of cannabis and hemp fibre are widespread and a far more economically viable and environmentally sustainable than cotton and timber for example. Only our governments don't want us to know about this. They aim to keep the population dumbed down so that their minds can be controlled. Certain posters on this thread are a fine example of this in action.
[quote][p][bold]PlatoSays[/bold] wrote: Pharmaceutical companies and breweries lobby and bribe politicians to ignore a wealth of scientific evidence that shows cannabis to be less of a health risk than eating too much junk food (ChunkeyMonkey) but the real fact is, cannabis has several medical benefits. Judges, lawyers, the police etc. also make a tidy living from this and many other contrived laws. People in the UK have less and less freedom, are encouraged to live in a constant state of fear, some even reduced to growing a garden in a wardrobe (sic) and then be accused of being paranoid, while voting is the new opiate of the masses.[/p][/quote]Beautifully put PlatoSays. This is exactly what our governments are doing to us. The medical use of marijuana also has the potential to jeopardise the profits of unscrupulous drug firms who depend on keeping our populations sick for their profits. The positive uses of cannabis and hemp fibre are widespread and a far more economically viable and environmentally sustainable than cotton and timber for example. Only our governments don't want us to know about this. They aim to keep the population dumbed down so that their minds can be controlled. Certain posters on this thread are a fine example of this in action. SickAndTired2
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3:14pm Sun 30 Jan 11

ChrisNJ says...

dunno if its a good or bad thing that im warringtons most talked about story haha
dunno if its a good or bad thing that im warringtons most talked about story haha ChrisNJ
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