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Exclusive: Village school to be bulldozed
8:07am Friday 2nd February 2007
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STOCKTON Heath Primary School will be flattened to make way for a multi-million pound new building.
Councillors made the historic decision at 9.45pm on Thursday after a tense meeting lasting longer than two-and-a-half hours.
Education chiefs said the Edwardian building was crumbling and needed replacing with a state-of-the-art facility.
But a packed Town Hall heard protestors claim the building is too precious to lose.
Angry campaigners have amassed thousands of letters of support calling for the existing Egerton Street building to be saved.
The decision could mean the end of an 18-month battle surrounding the school's future.
Clr Sheila Woodyatt, executive member for education, said:"I am extremely pleased with this decision. It is very good news for everyone at Stockton Heath Primary School.
"This is a victory for the children of Stockton Heath who will get the school they need and deserve.
"The future is now clear for the school and they can start work on developing a bright, modern facility, which will provide a positive background to the teaching of current and future generations of pupils. "
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Tudor Pole, Stockton Heath says...
10:25pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Tudor Pole, Stockton Heath says...
10:25pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Tudor Pole, Stockton Heath says...
10:25pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Tudor Pole, Stockton Heath says...
10:25pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Parent, Warrington says...
10:54pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Parent, Warrington says...
10:54pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Parent, Warrington says...
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Parent, Warrington says...
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Parent, Warrington says...
10:54pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Roy Taylor, Earlestown says...
11:24pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Roy Taylor, Earlestown says...
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Roy Taylor, Earlestown says...
11:24pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Roy Taylor, Earlestown says...
11:24pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Roy Taylor, Earlestown says...
11:24pm Thu 1 Feb 07
Parent, Stockton Heath says...
6:53am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, Stockton Heath says...
6:53am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, Stockton Heath says...
6:53am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, Stockton Heath says...
6:53am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, Stockton Heath says...
6:53am Fri 2 Feb 07
Rachel A, Stockton Heath says...
7:30am Fri 2 Feb 07
Rachel A, Stockton Heath says...
7:30am Fri 2 Feb 07
Rachel A, Stockton Heath says...
7:30am Fri 2 Feb 07
Rachel A, Stockton Heath says...
7:30am Fri 2 Feb 07
Rachel A, Stockton Heath says...
7:30am Fri 2 Feb 07
PPG, Warrington says...
7:40am Fri 2 Feb 07
There were complaints that it was said that last year's decision was "final". All this meant was that, unlike other applicants, the Council could not appeal to a Planning Inspector against its own decision (and they'd have won the appeal). There was never anything to stop the Council making a fresh application dealing in more detail with the reason for refusal - policy BH5 which says no proposals allowed that would adversely affect a building on the local list unless there are reasons that outweigh the architectural or historic value involved. There is no standard to meet except the opinion of the committee.
There was some query about whether educational benefits could be "a material planning consideration", but as even nationally listed buildings can be demolished if there are community benefits to outweigh the value of the building, this seemed a red herring.
No appeal against approval, only the possibility of judicial review, and opponents would have to start spending money (and find a law firm that thought they had a case).
PPG, Warrington says...
7:40am Fri 2 Feb 07
There were complaints that it was said that last year's decision was "final". All this meant was that, unlike other applicants, the Council could not appeal to a Planning Inspector against its own decision (and they'd have won the appeal). There was never anything to stop the Council making a fresh application dealing in more detail with the reason for refusal - policy BH5 which says no proposals allowed that would adversely affect a building on the local list unless there are reasons that outweigh the architectural or historic value involved. There is no standard to meet except the opinion of the committee.
There was some query about whether educational benefits could be "a material planning consideration", but as even nationally listed buildings can be demolished if there are community benefits to outweigh the value of the building, this seemed a red herring.
No appeal against approval, only the possibility of judicial review, and opponents would have to start spending money (and find a law firm that thought they had a case).
PPG, Warrington says...
7:40am Fri 2 Feb 07
There were complaints that it was said that last year's decision was "final". All this meant was that, unlike other applicants, the Council could not appeal to a Planning Inspector against its own decision (and they'd have won the appeal). There was never anything to stop the Council making a fresh application dealing in more detail with the reason for refusal - policy BH5 which says no proposals allowed that would adversely affect a building on the local list unless there are reasons that outweigh the architectural or historic value involved. There is no standard to meet except the opinion of the committee.
There was some query about whether educational benefits could be "a material planning consideration", but as even nationally listed buildings can be demolished if there are community benefits to outweigh the value of the building, this seemed a red herring.
No appeal against approval, only the possibility of judicial review, and opponents would have to start spending money (and find a law firm that thought they had a case).
PPG, Warrington says...
7:40am Fri 2 Feb 07
There were complaints that it was said that last year's decision was "final". All this meant was that, unlike other applicants, the Council could not appeal to a Planning Inspector against its own decision (and they'd have won the appeal). There was never anything to stop the Council making a fresh application dealing in more detail with the reason for refusal - policy BH5 which says no proposals allowed that would adversely affect a building on the local list unless there are reasons that outweigh the architectural or historic value involved. There is no standard to meet except the opinion of the committee.
There was some query about whether educational benefits could be "a material planning consideration", but as even nationally listed buildings can be demolished if there are community benefits to outweigh the value of the building, this seemed a red herring.
No appeal against approval, only the possibility of judicial review, and opponents would have to start spending money (and find a law firm that thought they had a case).
PPG, Warrington says...
7:40am Fri 2 Feb 07
There were complaints that it was said that last year's decision was "final". All this meant was that, unlike other applicants, the Council could not appeal to a Planning Inspector against its own decision (and they'd have won the appeal). There was never anything to stop the Council making a fresh application dealing in more detail with the reason for refusal - policy BH5 which says no proposals allowed that would adversely affect a building on the local list unless there are reasons that outweigh the architectural or historic value involved. There is no standard to meet except the opinion of the committee.
There was some query about whether educational benefits could be "a material planning consideration", but as even nationally listed buildings can be demolished if there are community benefits to outweigh the value of the building, this seemed a red herring.
No appeal against approval, only the possibility of judicial review, and opponents would have to start spending money (and find a law firm that thought they had a case).
A parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:02am Fri 2 Feb 07
A parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:02am Fri 2 Feb 07
A parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:02am Fri 2 Feb 07
A parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:02am Fri 2 Feb 07
A parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:02am Fri 2 Feb 07
Resident and Parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:04am Fri 2 Feb 07
If it is to be then plans will have to change radically.
Resident and Parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:04am Fri 2 Feb 07
If it is to be then plans will have to change radically.
Resident and Parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:04am Fri 2 Feb 07
If it is to be then plans will have to change radically.
Resident and Parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:04am Fri 2 Feb 07
If it is to be then plans will have to change radically.
Resident and Parent, Stockton Heath says...
8:04am Fri 2 Feb 07
If it is to be then plans will have to change radically.
Ex pupil from the 80's, Stockton Heath says...
9:10am Fri 2 Feb 07
Ex pupil from the 80's, Stockton Heath says...
9:10am Fri 2 Feb 07
Ex pupil from the 80's, Stockton Heath says...
9:10am Fri 2 Feb 07
Ex pupil from the 80's, Stockton Heath says...
9:10am Fri 2 Feb 07
Ex pupil from the 80's, Stockton Heath says...
9:10am Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
9:33am Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
9:33am Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
9:33am Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
9:33am Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
9:33am Fri 2 Feb 07
sarah clare, stockton heath says...
10:13am Fri 2 Feb 07
sarah clare, stockton heath says...
10:13am Fri 2 Feb 07
sarah clare, stockton heath says...
10:13am Fri 2 Feb 07
sarah clare, stockton heath says...
10:13am Fri 2 Feb 07
sarah clare, stockton heath says...
10:13am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent and resident, says...
11:22am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent and resident, says...
11:22am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent and resident, says...
11:22am Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent and resident, says...
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Parent and resident, says...
11:22am Fri 2 Feb 07
PPG, Warrington says...
12:32pm Fri 2 Feb 07
PPG, Warrington says...
12:32pm Fri 2 Feb 07
PPG, Warrington says...
12:32pm Fri 2 Feb 07
PPG, Warrington says...
12:32pm Fri 2 Feb 07
PPG, Warrington says...
12:32pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Resident and parent, stockton heath says...
12:37pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parents will simply vote with their feet and quite understandably.
Resident and parent, stockton heath says...
12:37pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parents will simply vote with their feet and quite understandably.
Resident and parent, stockton heath says...
12:37pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parents will simply vote with their feet and quite understandably.
Resident and parent, stockton heath says...
12:37pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parents will simply vote with their feet and quite understandably.
Resident and parent, stockton heath says...
12:37pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parents will simply vote with their feet and quite understandably.
Graeme, says...
12:59pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Graeme, says...
12:59pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Graeme, says...
12:59pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Graeme, says...
12:59pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Graeme, says...
12:59pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Past Pupil, Stockton Heath says...
1:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Past Pupil, Stockton Heath says...
1:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Past Pupil, Stockton Heath says...
1:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Past Pupil, Stockton Heath says...
1:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Past Pupil, Stockton Heath says...
1:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, Engalnd says...
3:34pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, Engalnd says...
3:34pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, Engalnd says...
3:34pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, Engalnd says...
3:34pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, Engalnd says...
3:34pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
3:50pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
3:50pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
3:50pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
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Anon, Stockton Heath says...
3:50pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, England says...
3:54pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, England says...
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CB, England says...
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CB, England says...
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CB, England says...
3:54pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
4:00pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
4:00pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
4:00pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
4:00pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon, Stockton Heath says...
4:00pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, England says...
4:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
CB, England says...
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CB, England says...
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CB, England says...
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CB, England says...
4:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, stockton heath says...
4:07pm Fri 2 Feb 07
• Why are the corridors so narrow?
• Why do the classroom doors directly face each other? (this will cause a congestion problem every time 2 classes leave the rooms)
• Why is there no costing showing the new cost for the roof and other additions? And what is the new cost?
• Why is there a rather incongruent toy store added to the front of the building?
• Is Warrington providing a state nursery within the school, or is the space going to be rented out to the Little Lot?
• Why is the early years and nursery play area right next to the main road?
• Where is Stay and Play?
• Why is the main hall about the same size as the existing school hall?
• How on earth do they intend to get contractors vehicles down Brackley Street?
• Do the residents realise this?
• What is the real cost of the demolition? In other words, how much is the old building worth in salvage?
• Why is there a separate ICT facility when all the new technology is wireless and integrated to teaching?
• Why isn’t there a sink in every classroom?
• Why are the cloakrooms inside the classrooms?
• How much extra space inside the classroom will there actually be once all of these are included?
• Are the walls between classrooms as sound proof as the existing ones? NO
• It doesn't mention air conditioning or e-cabling to rooms - is there any?NO
• All of the windows in half of the classrooms are south facing with no canopy or air-conditioning – how can interactive whiteboards be used in the full glare of sunlight in these rooms? How hot will they become?
• Who will pay for all the new fixtures, fittings and furniture? Does this add to the cost?
• Why hasn’t the Local Authority completed detailed plans for re-furbishment as advised by the Planning and Development Control Committee on 20th March 2006?
Parent, stockton heath says...
4:07pm Fri 2 Feb 07
• Why are the corridors so narrow?
• Why do the classroom doors directly face each other? (this will cause a congestion problem every time 2 classes leave the rooms)
• Why is there no costing showing the new cost for the roof and other additions? And what is the new cost?
• Why is there a rather incongruent toy store added to the front of the building?
• Is Warrington providing a state nursery within the school, or is the space going to be rented out to the Little Lot?
• Why is the early years and nursery play area right next to the main road?
• Where is Stay and Play?
• Why is the main hall about the same size as the existing school hall?
• How on earth do they intend to get contractors vehicles down Brackley Street?
• Do the residents realise this?
• What is the real cost of the demolition? In other words, how much is the old building worth in salvage?
• Why is there a separate ICT facility when all the new technology is wireless and integrated to teaching?
• Why isn’t there a sink in every classroom?
• Why are the cloakrooms inside the classrooms?
• How much extra space inside the classroom will there actually be once all of these are included?
• Are the walls between classrooms as sound proof as the existing ones? NO
• It doesn't mention air conditioning or e-cabling to rooms - is there any?NO
• All of the windows in half of the classrooms are south facing with no canopy or air-conditioning – how can interactive whiteboards be used in the full glare of sunlight in these rooms? How hot will they become?
• Who will pay for all the new fixtures, fittings and furniture? Does this add to the cost?
• Why hasn’t the Local Authority completed detailed plans for re-furbishment as advised by the Planning and Development Control Committee on 20th March 2006?
Parent, stockton heath says...
4:07pm Fri 2 Feb 07
• Why are the corridors so narrow?
• Why do the classroom doors directly face each other? (this will cause a congestion problem every time 2 classes leave the rooms)
• Why is there no costing showing the new cost for the roof and other additions? And what is the new cost?
• Why is there a rather incongruent toy store added to the front of the building?
• Is Warrington providing a state nursery within the school, or is the space going to be rented out to the Little Lot?
• Why is the early years and nursery play area right next to the main road?
• Where is Stay and Play?
• Why is the main hall about the same size as the existing school hall?
• How on earth do they intend to get contractors vehicles down Brackley Street?
• Do the residents realise this?
• What is the real cost of the demolition? In other words, how much is the old building worth in salvage?
• Why is there a separate ICT facility when all the new technology is wireless and integrated to teaching?
• Why isn’t there a sink in every classroom?
• Why are the cloakrooms inside the classrooms?
• How much extra space inside the classroom will there actually be once all of these are included?
• Are the walls between classrooms as sound proof as the existing ones? NO
• It doesn't mention air conditioning or e-cabling to rooms - is there any?NO
• All of the windows in half of the classrooms are south facing with no canopy or air-conditioning – how can interactive whiteboards be used in the full glare of sunlight in these rooms? How hot will they become?
• Who will pay for all the new fixtures, fittings and furniture? Does this add to the cost?
• Why hasn’t the Local Authority completed detailed plans for re-furbishment as advised by the Planning and Development Control Committee on 20th March 2006?
Parent, stockton heath says...
4:07pm Fri 2 Feb 07
• Why are the corridors so narrow?
• Why do the classroom doors directly face each other? (this will cause a congestion problem every time 2 classes leave the rooms)
• Why is there no costing showing the new cost for the roof and other additions? And what is the new cost?
• Why is there a rather incongruent toy store added to the front of the building?
• Is Warrington providing a state nursery within the school, or is the space going to be rented out to the Little Lot?
• Why is the early years and nursery play area right next to the main road?
• Where is Stay and Play?
• Why is the main hall about the same size as the existing school hall?
• How on earth do they intend to get contractors vehicles down Brackley Street?
• Do the residents realise this?
• What is the real cost of the demolition? In other words, how much is the old building worth in salvage?
• Why is there a separate ICT facility when all the new technology is wireless and integrated to teaching?
• Why isn’t there a sink in every classroom?
• Why are the cloakrooms inside the classrooms?
• How much extra space inside the classroom will there actually be once all of these are included?
• Are the walls between classrooms as sound proof as the existing ones? NO
• It doesn't mention air conditioning or e-cabling to rooms - is there any?NO
• All of the windows in half of the classrooms are south facing with no canopy or air-conditioning – how can interactive whiteboards be used in the full glare of sunlight in these rooms? How hot will they become?
• Who will pay for all the new fixtures, fittings and furniture? Does this add to the cost?
• Why hasn’t the Local Authority completed detailed plans for re-furbishment as advised by the Planning and Development Control Committee on 20th March 2006?
Parent, stockton heath says...
4:07pm Fri 2 Feb 07
• Why are the corridors so narrow?
• Why do the classroom doors directly face each other? (this will cause a congestion problem every time 2 classes leave the rooms)
• Why is there no costing showing the new cost for the roof and other additions? And what is the new cost?
• Why is there a rather incongruent toy store added to the front of the building?
• Is Warrington providing a state nursery within the school, or is the space going to be rented out to the Little Lot?
• Why is the early years and nursery play area right next to the main road?
• Where is Stay and Play?
• Why is the main hall about the same size as the existing school hall?
• How on earth do they intend to get contractors vehicles down Brackley Street?
• Do the residents realise this?
• What is the real cost of the demolition? In other words, how much is the old building worth in salvage?
• Why is there a separate ICT facility when all the new technology is wireless and integrated to teaching?
• Why isn’t there a sink in every classroom?
• Why are the cloakrooms inside the classrooms?
• How much extra space inside the classroom will there actually be once all of these are included?
• Are the walls between classrooms as sound proof as the existing ones? NO
• It doesn't mention air conditioning or e-cabling to rooms - is there any?NO
• All of the windows in half of the classrooms are south facing with no canopy or air-conditioning – how can interactive whiteboards be used in the full glare of sunlight in these rooms? How hot will they become?
• Who will pay for all the new fixtures, fittings and furniture? Does this add to the cost?
• Why hasn’t the Local Authority completed detailed plans for re-furbishment as advised by the Planning and Development Control Committee on 20th March 2006?
parent, stockton heath says...
4:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
It is for these reasons that my child will not now be going to Stockton Heath Primary School.
It is a sorry state of affairs when new and cheap is perceived as'state of the art'
But that is Warrington Council for you
parent, stockton heath says...
4:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
It is for these reasons that my child will not now be going to Stockton Heath Primary School.
It is a sorry state of affairs when new and cheap is perceived as'state of the art'
But that is Warrington Council for you
parent, stockton heath says...
4:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
It is for these reasons that my child will not now be going to Stockton Heath Primary School.
It is a sorry state of affairs when new and cheap is perceived as'state of the art'
But that is Warrington Council for you
parent, stockton heath says...
4:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
It is for these reasons that my child will not now be going to Stockton Heath Primary School.
It is a sorry state of affairs when new and cheap is perceived as'state of the art'
But that is Warrington Council for you
parent, stockton heath says...
4:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
It is for these reasons that my child will not now be going to Stockton Heath Primary School.
It is a sorry state of affairs when new and cheap is perceived as'state of the art'
But that is Warrington Council for you
Great White, Walton says...
6:15pm Fri 2 Feb 07
What has happened to warrington, where has the pride gone, civic pride comes from a balance not just from how much shiny stuff you have on display! Blingtown !!
Great White, Walton says...
6:15pm Fri 2 Feb 07
What has happened to warrington, where has the pride gone, civic pride comes from a balance not just from how much shiny stuff you have on display! Blingtown !!
Great White, Walton says...
6:15pm Fri 2 Feb 07
What has happened to warrington, where has the pride gone, civic pride comes from a balance not just from how much shiny stuff you have on display! Blingtown !!
Great White, Walton says...
6:15pm Fri 2 Feb 07
What has happened to warrington, where has the pride gone, civic pride comes from a balance not just from how much shiny stuff you have on display! Blingtown !!
Great White, Walton says...
6:15pm Fri 2 Feb 07
What has happened to warrington, where has the pride gone, civic pride comes from a balance not just from how much shiny stuff you have on display! Blingtown !!
parent, stockton heath says...
8:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
8:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
8:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
8:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
8:05pm Fri 2 Feb 07
anon, Stockton Heath says...
8:17pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon wrote:This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.
anon, Stockton Heath says...
8:17pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon wrote:This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.
anon, Stockton Heath says...
8:17pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon wrote:This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.
anon, Stockton Heath says...
8:17pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon wrote:This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.
anon, Stockton Heath says...
8:17pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Anon wrote:This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.
S Taylor SHARC, says...
11:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
quoteThe supporters, were staff, parents and residents who truly want the best for their school and children. The decision made last night was not about newbuild v refurbishment it was a clear cut choice between having 'something' or having 'nothing'. It is about time that people realsed this and not just the propaganda coming from opposers who seem to have lost sight of the reason for starting this campaign, if going by what they had to say last night (having heared it first hand) scant mention/time was given to the children, it was all about, planning, udp's, bh5's, conservation areas, local listings etc etc, accusations of corruption towards the development control committee, the list goes on, bar one tiny, tiny acknowledgement to them, the children had absolutely no bearing in any of the opposers argument. I for one am extemely grateful to the DCC for giving is an opportunity.
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You know you have hit the nail on the head, the planning process is about planning, not the educational needs of the children. No one is denying that education should be high up the priority list, and not one of the objectors wishes to see children in any school suffer from lack of opportunity. Your problem is you think that is what we want, well we don't, the goal of retaining historic buildings and local heritage are not incompatible with top quality education; they just require imagination and flare to achieve. You have just been wooed by the easy answer. Frankly, I think the council don't like to be beaten, and they have made it their goal to make sure they were not again, and the supportes are just the pawns in this mess. the councils decision was no surprise it was the obvious outcome!
As for the make up of the supporters, compared to objectors, if you cared to find out, you might also see that there was no difference in the make up, except in one thing, we actually have a larger constituency.
S Taylor SHARC, says...
11:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
quoteThe supporters, were staff, parents and residents who truly want the best for their school and children. The decision made last night was not about newbuild v refurbishment it was a clear cut choice between having 'something' or having 'nothing'. It is about time that people realsed this and not just the propaganda coming from opposers who seem to have lost sight of the reason for starting this campaign, if going by what they had to say last night (having heared it first hand) scant mention/time was given to the children, it was all about, planning, udp's, bh5's, conservation areas, local listings etc etc, accusations of corruption towards the development control committee, the list goes on, bar one tiny, tiny acknowledgement to them, the children had absolutely no bearing in any of the opposers argument. I for one am extemely grateful to the DCC for giving is an opportunity.
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You know you have hit the nail on the head, the planning process is about planning, not the educational needs of the children. No one is denying that education should be high up the priority list, and not one of the objectors wishes to see children in any school suffer from lack of opportunity. Your problem is you think that is what we want, well we don't, the goal of retaining historic buildings and local heritage are not incompatible with top quality education; they just require imagination and flare to achieve. You have just been wooed by the easy answer. Frankly, I think the council don't like to be beaten, and they have made it their goal to make sure they were not again, and the supportes are just the pawns in this mess. the councils decision was no surprise it was the obvious outcome!
As for the make up of the supporters, compared to objectors, if you cared to find out, you might also see that there was no difference in the make up, except in one thing, we actually have a larger constituency.
S Taylor SHARC, says...
11:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
quoteThe supporters, were staff, parents and residents who truly want the best for their school and children. The decision made last night was not about newbuild v refurbishment it was a clear cut choice between having 'something' or having 'nothing'. It is about time that people realsed this and not just the propaganda coming from opposers who seem to have lost sight of the reason for starting this campaign, if going by what they had to say last night (having heared it first hand) scant mention/time was given to the children, it was all about, planning, udp's, bh5's, conservation areas, local listings etc etc, accusations of corruption towards the development control committee, the list goes on, bar one tiny, tiny acknowledgement to them, the children had absolutely no bearing in any of the opposers argument. I for one am extemely grateful to the DCC for giving is an opportunity.
quote
You know you have hit the nail on the head, the planning process is about planning, not the educational needs of the children. No one is denying that education should be high up the priority list, and not one of the objectors wishes to see children in any school suffer from lack of opportunity. Your problem is you think that is what we want, well we don't, the goal of retaining historic buildings and local heritage are not incompatible with top quality education; they just require imagination and flare to achieve. You have just been wooed by the easy answer. Frankly, I think the council don't like to be beaten, and they have made it their goal to make sure they were not again, and the supportes are just the pawns in this mess. the councils decision was no surprise it was the obvious outcome!
As for the make up of the supporters, compared to objectors, if you cared to find out, you might also see that there was no difference in the make up, except in one thing, we actually have a larger constituency.
S Taylor SHARC, says...
11:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
quoteThe supporters, were staff, parents and residents who truly want the best for their school and children. The decision made last night was not about newbuild v refurbishment it was a clear cut choice between having 'something' or having 'nothing'. It is about time that people realsed this and not just the propaganda coming from opposers who seem to have lost sight of the reason for starting this campaign, if going by what they had to say last night (having heared it first hand) scant mention/time was given to the children, it was all about, planning, udp's, bh5's, conservation areas, local listings etc etc, accusations of corruption towards the development control committee, the list goes on, bar one tiny, tiny acknowledgement to them, the children had absolutely no bearing in any of the opposers argument. I for one am extemely grateful to the DCC for giving is an opportunity.
quote
You know you have hit the nail on the head, the planning process is about planning, not the educational needs of the children. No one is denying that education should be high up the priority list, and not one of the objectors wishes to see children in any school suffer from lack of opportunity. Your problem is you think that is what we want, well we don't, the goal of retaining historic buildings and local heritage are not incompatible with top quality education; they just require imagination and flare to achieve. You have just been wooed by the easy answer. Frankly, I think the council don't like to be beaten, and they have made it their goal to make sure they were not again, and the supportes are just the pawns in this mess. the councils decision was no surprise it was the obvious outcome!
As for the make up of the supporters, compared to objectors, if you cared to find out, you might also see that there was no difference in the make up, except in one thing, we actually have a larger constituency.
S Taylor SHARC, says...
11:23pm Fri 2 Feb 07
quoteThe supporters, were staff, parents and residents who truly want the best for their school and children. The decision made last night was not about newbuild v refurbishment it was a clear cut choice between having 'something' or having 'nothing'. It is about time that people realsed this and not just the propaganda coming from opposers who seem to have lost sight of the reason for starting this campaign, if going by what they had to say last night (having heared it first hand) scant mention/time was given to the children, it was all about, planning, udp's, bh5's, conservation areas, local listings etc etc, accusations of corruption towards the development control committee, the list goes on, bar one tiny, tiny acknowledgement to them, the children had absolutely no bearing in any of the opposers argument. I for one am extemely grateful to the DCC for giving is an opportunity.
quote
You know you have hit the nail on the head, the planning process is about planning, not the educational needs of the children. No one is denying that education should be high up the priority list, and not one of the objectors wishes to see children in any school suffer from lack of opportunity. Your problem is you think that is what we want, well we don't, the goal of retaining historic buildings and local heritage are not incompatible with top quality education; they just require imagination and flare to achieve. You have just been wooed by the easy answer. Frankly, I think the council don't like to be beaten, and they have made it their goal to make sure they were not again, and the supportes are just the pawns in this mess. the councils decision was no surprise it was the obvious outcome!
As for the make up of the supporters, compared to objectors, if you cared to find out, you might also see that there was no difference in the make up, except in one thing, we actually have a larger constituency.
Parent, says...
11:51pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, says...
11:51pm Fri 2 Feb 07
Parent, says...
11:51pm Fri 2 Feb 07
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11:51pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
11:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
11:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
11:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
11:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
11:53pm Fri 2 Feb 07
parent and resident, stockton heath says...
12:21am Sat 3 Feb 07
parent and resident, stockton heath says...
12:21am Sat 3 Feb 07
parent and resident, stockton heath says...
12:21am Sat 3 Feb 07
parent and resident, stockton heath says...
12:21am Sat 3 Feb 07
parent and resident, stockton heath says...
12:21am Sat 3 Feb 07
Parent and Resident, Stockton Heath says...
2:16am Sat 3 Feb 07
The decision was NOT based on what is best for all our children at all. If this was the case then they wouldn't have approved it. There is nothing at all for the children to gain from the low spec box on offer.
The money that was given COULD have quite easily been used for a refurbishment and thus enhancing on what we have ie a superb school but they chose not to do this.
They have simply resorted to scare tactics by saying it is 'all or nothing and the money will have to be returned' a point that the committe members were obviously worried by!
Their decision in March was final and they should have spent the last 10 months coming up with something far better for our school, whether that be real refurbishment option or failing that a real state of the art new school rather that just finding justification to progress with the very cheap and poorly designed school we are now going to get.
As they are the applicant, designers and decision makers I guess it could only have gone this way anyway !
Parent and Resident, Stockton Heath says...
2:16am Sat 3 Feb 07
The decision was NOT based on what is best for all our children at all. If this was the case then they wouldn't have approved it. There is nothing at all for the children to gain from the low spec box on offer.
The money that was given COULD have quite easily been used for a refurbishment and thus enhancing on what we have ie a superb school but they chose not to do this.
They have simply resorted to scare tactics by saying it is 'all or nothing and the money will have to be returned' a point that the committe members were obviously worried by!
Their decision in March was final and they should have spent the last 10 months coming up with something far better for our school, whether that be real refurbishment option or failing that a real state of the art new school rather that just finding justification to progress with the very cheap and poorly designed school we are now going to get.
As they are the applicant, designers and decision makers I guess it could only have gone this way anyway !
Parent and Resident, Stockton Heath says...
2:16am Sat 3 Feb 07
The decision was NOT based on what is best for all our children at all. If this was the case then they wouldn't have approved it. There is nothing at all for the children to gain from the low spec box on offer.
The money that was given COULD have quite easily been used for a refurbishment and thus enhancing on what we have ie a superb school but they chose not to do this.
They have simply resorted to scare tactics by saying it is 'all or nothing and the money will have to be returned' a point that the committe members were obviously worried by!
Their decision in March was final and they should have spent the last 10 months coming up with something far better for our school, whether that be real refurbishment option or failing that a real state of the art new school rather that just finding justification to progress with the very cheap and poorly designed school we are now going to get.
As they are the applicant, designers and decision makers I guess it could only have gone this way anyway !
Parent and Resident, Stockton Heath says...
2:16am Sat 3 Feb 07
The decision was NOT based on what is best for all our children at all. If this was the case then they wouldn't have approved it. There is nothing at all for the children to gain from the low spec box on offer.
The money that was given COULD have quite easily been used for a refurbishment and thus enhancing on what we have ie a superb school but they chose not to do this.
They have simply resorted to scare tactics by saying it is 'all or nothing and the money will have to be returned' a point that the committe members were obviously worried by!
Their decision in March was final and they should have spent the last 10 months coming up with something far better for our school, whether that be real refurbishment option or failing that a real state of the art new school rather that just finding justification to progress with the very cheap and poorly designed school we are now going to get.
As they are the applicant, designers and decision makers I guess it could only have gone this way anyway !
Parent and Resident, Stockton Heath says...
2:16am Sat 3 Feb 07
The decision was NOT based on what is best for all our children at all. If this was the case then they wouldn't have approved it. There is nothing at all for the children to gain from the low spec box on offer.
The money that was given COULD have quite easily been used for a refurbishment and thus enhancing on what we have ie a superb school but they chose not to do this.
They have simply resorted to scare tactics by saying it is 'all or nothing and the money will have to be returned' a point that the committe members were obviously worried by!
Their decision in March was final and they should have spent the last 10 months coming up with something far better for our school, whether that be real refurbishment option or failing that a real state of the art new school rather that just finding justification to progress with the very cheap and poorly designed school we are now going to get.
As they are the applicant, designers and decision makers I guess it could only have gone this way anyway !
TM, says...
2:29pm Sat 3 Feb 07
TM, says...
2:29pm Sat 3 Feb 07
TM, says...
2:29pm Sat 3 Feb 07
TM, says...
2:29pm Sat 3 Feb 07
TM, says...
2:29pm Sat 3 Feb 07
Sue Clarke, says...
3:32pm Sat 3 Feb 07
I WILL NOT be sending my children to the new school. I will be rushing with other mothers I know of, to get our children into other local and more highly achieving primary schools. One of whom has children educated in prefabs!!!!
420 places.... the school will be lucky to have 220 children enrolled there in two years.Mmmmmm?? does that mean less money for paying teachers salaries. I suppose the extra space could be utilised for the community as a Super Casino in the evening!!
Sue Clarke, says...
3:32pm Sat 3 Feb 07
I WILL NOT be sending my children to the new school. I will be rushing with other mothers I know of, to get our children into other local and more highly achieving primary schools. One of whom has children educated in prefabs!!!!
420 places.... the school will be lucky to have 220 children enrolled there in two years.Mmmmmm?? does that mean less money for paying teachers salaries. I suppose the extra space could be utilised for the community as a Super Casino in the evening!!
Sue Clarke, says...
3:32pm Sat 3 Feb 07
I WILL NOT be sending my children to the new school. I will be rushing with other mothers I know of, to get our children into other local and more highly achieving primary schools. One of whom has children educated in prefabs!!!!
420 places.... the school will be lucky to have 220 children enrolled there in two years.Mmmmmm?? does that mean less money for paying teachers salaries. I suppose the extra space could be utilised for the community as a Super Casino in the evening!!
Sue Clarke, says...
3:32pm Sat 3 Feb 07
I WILL NOT be sending my children to the new school. I will be rushing with other mothers I know of, to get our children into other local and more highly achieving primary schools. One of whom has children educated in prefabs!!!!
420 places.... the school will be lucky to have 220 children enrolled there in two years.Mmmmmm?? does that mean less money for paying teachers salaries. I suppose the extra space could be utilised for the community as a Super Casino in the evening!!
Sue Clarke, says...
3:32pm Sat 3 Feb 07
I WILL NOT be sending my children to the new school. I will be rushing with other mothers I know of, to get our children into other local and more highly achieving primary schools. One of whom has children educated in prefabs!!!!
420 places.... the school will be lucky to have 220 children enrolled there in two years.Mmmmmm?? does that mean less money for paying teachers salaries. I suppose the extra space could be utilised for the community as a Super Casino in the evening!!
parent, resident, stockton heath, says...
5:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath, says...
5:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath, says...
5:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath, says...
5:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath, says...
5:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
parent, stockton heath says...
7:03pm Sat 3 Feb 07
Whilst committed parents educate their children with recycling and re-using instead of throwing everything away, the council doing exactly the opposite in front of their faces.
I say again the decision is morally wrong. There is absolutley NO EVIDENCE to support the idea that education or standards will improve in a new building.
parent, stockton heath says...
7:03pm Sat 3 Feb 07
Whilst committed parents educate their children with recycling and re-using instead of throwing everything away, the council doing exactly the opposite in front of their faces.
I say again the decision is morally wrong. There is absolutley NO EVIDENCE to support the idea that education or standards will improve in a new building.
parent, stockton heath says...
7:03pm Sat 3 Feb 07
Whilst committed parents educate their children with recycling and re-using instead of throwing everything away, the council doing exactly the opposite in front of their faces.
I say again the decision is morally wrong. There is absolutley NO EVIDENCE to support the idea that education or standards will improve in a new building.
parent, stockton heath says...
7:03pm Sat 3 Feb 07
Whilst committed parents educate their children with recycling and re-using instead of throwing everything away, the council doing exactly the opposite in front of their faces.
I say again the decision is morally wrong. There is absolutley NO EVIDENCE to support the idea that education or standards will improve in a new building.
parent, stockton heath says...
7:03pm Sat 3 Feb 07
Whilst committed parents educate their children with recycling and re-using instead of throwing everything away, the council doing exactly the opposite in front of their faces.
I say again the decision is morally wrong. There is absolutley NO EVIDENCE to support the idea that education or standards will improve in a new building.
Great White, says...
8:09pm Sat 3 Feb 07
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school
It is probably a good job Sue's children are not, since during the speech given by the Head Teacher on Thursday night, she quoted H G Wells, I beleive she was actually quoating Aldous Huxley?!! Got that wrong as well eh?
Great White, says...
8:09pm Sat 3 Feb 07
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school
It is probably a good job Sue's children are not, since during the speech given by the Head Teacher on Thursday night, she quoted H G Wells, I beleive she was actually quoating Aldous Huxley?!! Got that wrong as well eh?
Great White, says...
8:09pm Sat 3 Feb 07
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school
It is probably a good job Sue's children are not, since during the speech given by the Head Teacher on Thursday night, she quoted H G Wells, I beleive she was actually quoating Aldous Huxley?!! Got that wrong as well eh?
Great White, says...
8:09pm Sat 3 Feb 07
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school
It is probably a good job Sue's children are not, since during the speech given by the Head Teacher on Thursday night, she quoted H G Wells, I beleive she was actually quoating Aldous Huxley?!! Got that wrong as well eh?
Great White, says...
8:09pm Sat 3 Feb 07
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school
It is probably a good job Sue's children are not, since during the speech given by the Head Teacher on Thursday night, she quoted H G Wells, I beleive she was actually quoating Aldous Huxley?!! Got that wrong as well eh?
S Taylor SHARC, says...
8:12pm Sat 3 Feb 07
S Taylor SHARC, says...
8:12pm Sat 3 Feb 07
S Taylor SHARC, says...
8:12pm Sat 3 Feb 07
S Taylor SHARC, says...
8:12pm Sat 3 Feb 07
S Taylor SHARC, says...
8:12pm Sat 3 Feb 07
parent, resident Walton, Walton says...
9:33pm Sat 3 Feb 07
The teachers at the school provide excellant teaching, how exactly will that be improved in a new school building? My understanding is that all the teachers who took employment in that school new what is was like when they accepted their jobs accordingly. Why? If the school is 'so terrible' why are they working there?
I have worked in a new build and a grade 2 listed building they all come with problems, usually the same heating . lighting. drainage why do we have to go through the process of a new build to find out what those of us with knowledge of both already know. You will not get a perfect building. Use the good foundations of the current school and bring it up to the 21st centuary. Considering teachers have imagination and creativity as your skills you do not seem to be showing much now! How can a box school show any creativity or innovation or imagination. Surely the idea of teaching is to use what materials you have been provided with to their best use. To then show how with knowledge and creativity you can develope a structually sound unit to even better use whether its a school or a pupil. Its agood job you don't get rid of pupils that don't meet your perfect standards!
I for one do not need to have a school that allows my children to see out of the windows. I would prefer them to focus their time spent in the classroom on class room activities.
parent, resident Walton, Walton says...
9:33pm Sat 3 Feb 07
The teachers at the school provide excellant teaching, how exactly will that be improved in a new school building? My understanding is that all the teachers who took employment in that school new what is was like when they accepted their jobs accordingly. Why? If the school is 'so terrible' why are they working there?
I have worked in a new build and a grade 2 listed building they all come with problems, usually the same heating . lighting. drainage why do we have to go through the process of a new build to find out what those of us with knowledge of both already know. You will not get a perfect building. Use the good foundations of the current school and bring it up to the 21st centuary. Considering teachers have imagination and creativity as your skills you do not seem to be showing much now! How can a box school show any creativity or innovation or imagination. Surely the idea of teaching is to use what materials you have been provided with to their best use. To then show how with knowledge and creativity you can develope a structually sound unit to even better use whether its a school or a pupil. Its agood job you don't get rid of pupils that don't meet your perfect standards!
I for one do not need to have a school that allows my children to see out of the windows. I would prefer them to focus their time spent in the classroom on class room activities.
parent, resident Walton, Walton says...
9:33pm Sat 3 Feb 07
The teachers at the school provide excellant teaching, how exactly will that be improved in a new school building? My understanding is that all the teachers who took employment in that school new what is was like when they accepted their jobs accordingly. Why? If the school is 'so terrible' why are they working there?
I have worked in a new build and a grade 2 listed building they all come with problems, usually the same heating . lighting. drainage why do we have to go through the process of a new build to find out what those of us with knowledge of both already know. You will not get a perfect building. Use the good foundations of the current school and bring it up to the 21st centuary. Considering teachers have imagination and creativity as your skills you do not seem to be showing much now! How can a box school show any creativity or innovation or imagination. Surely the idea of teaching is to use what materials you have been provided with to their best use. To then show how with knowledge and creativity you can develope a structually sound unit to even better use whether its a school or a pupil. Its agood job you don't get rid of pupils that don't meet your perfect standards!
I for one do not need to have a school that allows my children to see out of the windows. I would prefer them to focus their time spent in the classroom on class room activities.
parent, resident Walton, Walton says...
9:33pm Sat 3 Feb 07
The teachers at the school provide excellant teaching, how exactly will that be improved in a new school building? My understanding is that all the teachers who took employment in that school new what is was like when they accepted their jobs accordingly. Why? If the school is 'so terrible' why are they working there?
I have worked in a new build and a grade 2 listed building they all come with problems, usually the same heating . lighting. drainage why do we have to go through the process of a new build to find out what those of us with knowledge of both already know. You will not get a perfect building. Use the good foundations of the current school and bring it up to the 21st centuary. Considering teachers have imagination and creativity as your skills you do not seem to be showing much now! How can a box school show any creativity or innovation or imagination. Surely the idea of teaching is to use what materials you have been provided with to their best use. To then show how with knowledge and creativity you can develope a structually sound unit to even better use whether its a school or a pupil. Its agood job you don't get rid of pupils that don't meet your perfect standards!
I for one do not need to have a school that allows my children to see out of the windows. I would prefer them to focus their time spent in the classroom on class room activities.
parent, resident Walton, Walton says...
9:33pm Sat 3 Feb 07
The teachers at the school provide excellant teaching, how exactly will that be improved in a new school building? My understanding is that all the teachers who took employment in that school new what is was like when they accepted their jobs accordingly. Why? If the school is 'so terrible' why are they working there?
I have worked in a new build and a grade 2 listed building they all come with problems, usually the same heating . lighting. drainage why do we have to go through the process of a new build to find out what those of us with knowledge of both already know. You will not get a perfect building. Use the good foundations of the current school and bring it up to the 21st centuary. Considering teachers have imagination and creativity as your skills you do not seem to be showing much now! How can a box school show any creativity or innovation or imagination. Surely the idea of teaching is to use what materials you have been provided with to their best use. To then show how with knowledge and creativity you can develope a structually sound unit to even better use whether its a school or a pupil. Its agood job you don't get rid of pupils that don't meet your perfect standards!
I for one do not need to have a school that allows my children to see out of the windows. I would prefer them to focus their time spent in the classroom on class room activities.
father, resident and someone who cares, Stockton Heath says...
11:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
In his most important years my child received the most wonderful level of education that any parent could wish for. I was proud of the fact that this school had been the best choice I could have made for him.
To him it was an extension of the home and looking back the care and attention shown to him, and every other child, by both the headmistress and staff during his time there proves that every child did matter!
This is not a failing school and it never has been. It is not lacking in facilities, far from it. It was and still is a thriving school (if those in charge would let it continue to be) and one that has given my child and many others one of the best starts in life possible.
This highly regarded school with it's high standards and high level of achievement has, in many peoples eyes, been severly damaged.
Until recently it was regarded as one of the best school in the area... so what went wrong?
Life is not always about how much money you can grab and what you can find to do with it!
father, resident and someone who cares, Stockton Heath says...
11:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
In his most important years my child received the most wonderful level of education that any parent could wish for. I was proud of the fact that this school had been the best choice I could have made for him.
To him it was an extension of the home and looking back the care and attention shown to him, and every other child, by both the headmistress and staff during his time there proves that every child did matter!
This is not a failing school and it never has been. It is not lacking in facilities, far from it. It was and still is a thriving school (if those in charge would let it continue to be) and one that has given my child and many others one of the best starts in life possible.
This highly regarded school with it's high standards and high level of achievement has, in many peoples eyes, been severly damaged.
Until recently it was regarded as one of the best school in the area... so what went wrong?
Life is not always about how much money you can grab and what you can find to do with it!
father, resident and someone who cares, Stockton Heath says...
11:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
In his most important years my child received the most wonderful level of education that any parent could wish for. I was proud of the fact that this school had been the best choice I could have made for him.
To him it was an extension of the home and looking back the care and attention shown to him, and every other child, by both the headmistress and staff during his time there proves that every child did matter!
This is not a failing school and it never has been. It is not lacking in facilities, far from it. It was and still is a thriving school (if those in charge would let it continue to be) and one that has given my child and many others one of the best starts in life possible.
This highly regarded school with it's high standards and high level of achievement has, in many peoples eyes, been severly damaged.
Until recently it was regarded as one of the best school in the area... so what went wrong?
Life is not always about how much money you can grab and what you can find to do with it!
father, resident and someone who cares, Stockton Heath says...
11:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
In his most important years my child received the most wonderful level of education that any parent could wish for. I was proud of the fact that this school had been the best choice I could have made for him.
To him it was an extension of the home and looking back the care and attention shown to him, and every other child, by both the headmistress and staff during his time there proves that every child did matter!
This is not a failing school and it never has been. It is not lacking in facilities, far from it. It was and still is a thriving school (if those in charge would let it continue to be) and one that has given my child and many others one of the best starts in life possible.
This highly regarded school with it's high standards and high level of achievement has, in many peoples eyes, been severly damaged.
Until recently it was regarded as one of the best school in the area... so what went wrong?
Life is not always about how much money you can grab and what you can find to do with it!
father, resident and someone who cares, Stockton Heath says...
11:05pm Sat 3 Feb 07
In his most important years my child received the most wonderful level of education that any parent could wish for. I was proud of the fact that this school had been the best choice I could have made for him.
To him it was an extension of the home and looking back the care and attention shown to him, and every other child, by both the headmistress and staff during his time there proves that every child did matter!
This is not a failing school and it never has been. It is not lacking in facilities, far from it. It was and still is a thriving school (if those in charge would let it continue to be) and one that has given my child and many others one of the best starts in life possible.
This highly regarded school with it's high standards and high level of achievement has, in many peoples eyes, been severly damaged.
Until recently it was regarded as one of the best school in the area... so what went wrong?
Life is not always about how much money you can grab and what you can find to do with it!
Parent and community member, our village says...
12:47am Sun 4 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath wrote:This is the very attitude that is out of order. 'Our' school is just that. It belongs to the community and always has. Its future should be determined by the percpetions of the community as a whole and not a groups of transient employees.
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school!
Parent and community member, our village says...
12:47am Sun 4 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath wrote:This is the very attitude that is out of order. 'Our' school is just that. It belongs to the community and always has. Its future should be determined by the percpetions of the community as a whole and not a groups of transient employees.
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school!
Parent and community member, our village says...
12:47am Sun 4 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath wrote:This is the very attitude that is out of order. 'Our' school is just that. It belongs to the community and always has. Its future should be determined by the percpetions of the community as a whole and not a groups of transient employees.
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school!
Parent and community member, our village says...
12:47am Sun 4 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath wrote:This is the very attitude that is out of order. 'Our' school is just that. It belongs to the community and always has. Its future should be determined by the percpetions of the community as a whole and not a groups of transient employees.
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school!
Parent and community member, our village says...
12:47am Sun 4 Feb 07
parent, resident, stockton heath wrote:This is the very attitude that is out of order. 'Our' school is just that. It belongs to the community and always has. Its future should be determined by the percpetions of the community as a whole and not a groups of transient employees.
With an attitude like thank goodness you will not be coming to our school!
parent group, stockton heath says...
1:08am Sun 4 Feb 07
anon wrote:Well we will be watching you very carefully. When you are sitting in those meetings with planners and builders who are triming away at the specifications to keep within a shoe string budget you will begin to feel that the environment is fast becoming acommodating and functional ... but hardly inspirational. For some 'new' does equate with 'fantastic', but for others 'fantastic' runs just a little deeper.
Anon wrote: An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
parent group, stockton heath says...
1:08am Sun 4 Feb 07
anon wrote:Well we will be watching you very carefully. When you are sitting in those meetings with planners and builders who are triming away at the specifications to keep within a shoe string budget you will begin to feel that the environment is fast becoming acommodating and functional ... but hardly inspirational. For some 'new' does equate with 'fantastic', but for others 'fantastic' runs just a little deeper.
Anon wrote: An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
parent group, stockton heath says...
1:08am Sun 4 Feb 07
anon wrote:Well we will be watching you very carefully. When you are sitting in those meetings with planners and builders who are triming away at the specifications to keep within a shoe string budget you will begin to feel that the environment is fast becoming acommodating and functional ... but hardly inspirational. For some 'new' does equate with 'fantastic', but for others 'fantastic' runs just a little deeper.
Anon wrote: An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
parent group, stockton heath says...
1:08am Sun 4 Feb 07
anon wrote:Well we will be watching you very carefully. When you are sitting in those meetings with planners and builders who are triming away at the specifications to keep within a shoe string budget you will begin to feel that the environment is fast becoming acommodating and functional ... but hardly inspirational. For some 'new' does equate with 'fantastic', but for others 'fantastic' runs just a little deeper.
Anon wrote: An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
parent group, stockton heath says...
1:08am Sun 4 Feb 07
anon wrote:Well we will be watching you very carefully. When you are sitting in those meetings with planners and builders who are triming away at the specifications to keep within a shoe string budget you will begin to feel that the environment is fast becoming acommodating and functional ... but hardly inspirational. For some 'new' does equate with 'fantastic', but for others 'fantastic' runs just a little deeper.
Anon wrote: An absolute disgrace. Demolishing a part of history and a great school in which children are happy. I have children currently at the school that are passionately against its demolition, and every past pupil that I know agress with them. I am absolutely disgusted by the decision. The first comment about this being a \"great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath\" is totally off the mark. This is only a victory for the council and shows how little attention they pay to the wants and wishes of the local community. Words cannot express my disappointment and sadness at the loss of a wonderful school.This is very short sighted, how can you talk about the loss of a wonderful school? A school is so much more than the bricks and mortar surrounding it. A school is about children and their education. Children, now and in the future deserve a school that is fit for purpose and is an inspiring learning environment. This is a fantastic result for the school. Education has been put first, well done the councillors for making the correct decision.
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:38am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:38am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:38am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:38am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:38am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:39am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:39am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:39am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:39am Sun 4 Feb 07
very worried parent, stockton heath says...
1:39am Sun 4 Feb 07
Resident of Stockton Heath, Stockton Heath says...
7:37pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:As one of our Parish Councillor's may I suggest that before putting your comment it may have been wise for you to have gone out onto the streets of your 'parish' and asked us, the people, what we actually think of your so called 'great victory'!
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED...
IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PURE AND MINDLESS ACT OF VANDALISM... and one that will not be forgotten!
Resident of Stockton Heath, Stockton Heath says...
7:37pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:As one of our Parish Councillor's may I suggest that before putting your comment it may have been wise for you to have gone out onto the streets of your 'parish' and asked us, the people, what we actually think of your so called 'great victory'!
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED...
IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PURE AND MINDLESS ACT OF VANDALISM... and one that will not be forgotten!
Resident of Stockton Heath, Stockton Heath says...
7:37pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:As one of our Parish Councillor's may I suggest that before putting your comment it may have been wise for you to have gone out onto the streets of your 'parish' and asked us, the people, what we actually think of your so called 'great victory'!
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED...
IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PURE AND MINDLESS ACT OF VANDALISM... and one that will not be forgotten!
Resident of Stockton Heath, Stockton Heath says...
7:37pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:As one of our Parish Councillor's may I suggest that before putting your comment it may have been wise for you to have gone out onto the streets of your 'parish' and asked us, the people, what we actually think of your so called 'great victory'!
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED...
IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PURE AND MINDLESS ACT OF VANDALISM... and one that will not be forgotten!
Resident of Stockton Heath, Stockton Heath says...
7:37pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:As one of our Parish Councillor's may I suggest that before putting your comment it may have been wise for you to have gone out onto the streets of your 'parish' and asked us, the people, what we actually think of your so called 'great victory'!
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED...
IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PURE AND MINDLESS ACT OF VANDALISM... and one that will not be forgotten!
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
8:49pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
8:49pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
8:49pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
8:49pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
8:49pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
9:07pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
9:07pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
9:07pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
9:07pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Proud stockton heath parent and resident, Stockton Heath says...
9:07pm Sun 4 Feb 07
Tudor Pole wrote:Typical of an out of touch arrogance. At the next Parish Council meeting there is a clear requirement for high public attendance so that vote of confidence can be raised.
A great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath.
Do these people REALLY live in our community?
Great White, says...
11:06pm Tue 6 Feb 07
quoteA great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath
quote
NO! it is actually a victory for a Welsh man, two ladies from Liverpool and 3 people from the south of England. Where did Stockton Heath come into it?
Great White, says...
11:06pm Tue 6 Feb 07
quoteA great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath
quote
NO! it is actually a victory for a Welsh man, two ladies from Liverpool and 3 people from the south of England. Where did Stockton Heath come into it?
Great White, says...
11:06pm Tue 6 Feb 07
quoteA great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath
quote
NO! it is actually a victory for a Welsh man, two ladies from Liverpool and 3 people from the south of England. Where did Stockton Heath come into it?
Great White, says...
11:06pm Tue 6 Feb 07
quoteA great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath
quote
NO! it is actually a victory for a Welsh man, two ladies from Liverpool and 3 people from the south of England. Where did Stockton Heath come into it?
Great White, says...
11:06pm Tue 6 Feb 07
quoteA great victory for the children and people of Stockton Heath
quote
NO! it is actually a victory for a Welsh man, two ladies from Liverpool and 3 people from the south of England. Where did Stockton Heath come into it?
parent, says...
12:56pm Fri 9 Feb 07
parent and resident wrote:Is this person referring to the same school? What absolute nonsense.There is nothing wrong with that building.The one 's telling lies were the fools who want it demolished. They appear to think that a new building will improve the standard of education.Good teachers and leadership are all that is needed-not excuses about the building. The children will be leaving in droves.
common sense has prevailed. Our children will have the chance to learn and thrive in a new modern "up to the job" building. The lies that i listened to last night made my blood boil. No damp in the school!! they should try wading through a foot and a half of water in the cellar everytime it rains. I am delighted and look forward to seeing the new school going up and the old one coming down!!
parent, says...
12:56pm Fri 9 Feb 07
parent and resident wrote:Is this person referring to the same school? What absolute nonsense.There is nothing wrong with that building.The one 's telling lies were the fools who want it demolished. They appear to think that a new building will improve the standard of education.Good teachers and leadership are all that is needed-not excuses about the building. The children will be leaving in droves.
common sense has prevailed. Our children will have the chance to learn and thrive in a new modern "up to the job" building. The lies that i listened to last night made my blood boil. No damp in the school!! they should try wading through a foot and a half of water in the cellar everytime it rains. I am delighted and look forward to seeing the new school going up and the old one coming down!!
parent, says...
12:56pm Fri 9 Feb 07
parent and resident wrote:Is this person referring to the same school? What absolute nonsense.There is nothing wrong with that building.The one 's telling lies were the fools who want it demolished. They appear to think that a new building will improve the standard of education.Good teachers and leadership are all that is needed-not excuses about the building. The children will be leaving in droves.
common sense has prevailed. Our children will have the chance to learn and thrive in a new modern "up to the job" building. The lies that i listened to last night made my blood boil. No damp in the school!! they should try wading through a foot and a half of water in the cellar everytime it rains. I am delighted and look forward to seeing the new school going up and the old one coming down!!
parent, says...
12:56pm Fri 9 Feb 07
parent and resident wrote:Is this person referring to the same school? What absolute nonsense.There is nothing wrong with that building.The one 's telling lies were the fools who want it demolished. They appear to think that a new building will improve the standard of education.Good teachers and leadership are all that is needed-not excuses about the building. The children will be leaving in droves.
common sense has prevailed. Our children will have the chance to learn and thrive in a new modern "up to the job" building. The lies that i listened to last night made my blood boil. No damp in the school!! they should try wading through a foot and a half of water in the cellar everytime it rains. I am delighted and look forward to seeing the new school going up and the old one coming down!!
parent, says...
12:56pm Fri 9 Feb 07
parent and resident wrote:Is this person referring to the same school? What absolute nonsense.There is nothing wrong with that building.The one 's telling lies were the fools who want it demolished. They appear to think that a new building will improve the standard of education.Good teachers and leadership are all that is needed-not excuses about the building. The children will be leaving in droves.
common sense has prevailed. Our children will have the chance to learn and thrive in a new modern "up to the job" building. The lies that i listened to last night made my blood boil. No damp in the school!! they should try wading through a foot and a half of water in the cellar everytime it rains. I am delighted and look forward to seeing the new school going up and the old one coming down!!
parent, says...
1:11pm Fri 9 Feb 07
parent wrote:Well there are not many more than "one" who agree with this.The fact that 5000 Stockton Heath residents signed a petition points to the fact
The supporters, were staff, parents and residents who truly want the best for their school and children. The decision made last night was not about newbuild v refurbishment it was a clear cut choice between having 'something' or having 'nothing'. It is about time that people realsed this and not just the propaganda coming from opposers who seem to have lost sight of the reason for starting this campaign, if going by what they had to say last night (having heared it first hand) scant mention/time was given to the children, it was all about, planning, udp's, bh5's, conservation areas, local listings etc etc, accusations of corruption towards the development control committee, the list goes on, bar one tiny, tiny acknowledgement to them, the children had absolutely no bearing in any of the opposers argument. I for one am extemely grateful to the DCC for giving is an opportunity.
Tudor Pole, Stockton Heath says...
10:25pm Thu 1 Feb 07