Town centre street cafe plans questioned

Warrington Town Hall

Warrington Town Hall

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THE safety of street cafes was raised by councillors as they came to decide on plans for one to be created at a town centre pub.

Councillors on the planning development sub committee were deciding on whether to allow plans for the outside area on Hilden Square at The White Hart, on Sankey Street.

Stars Pubs and Bars had put in the plans for the pub to be allowed to use the council owned space for its extension plans.

But chairman of the committee Clr Tony McCarthy (LAB - Rixton and Woolston) raised the issues surrounding pavement cafes and the impact on safety in the town centre.

He told the Town Hall meeting on Wednesday: "We had a debate in licensing about pavement cafes. One of the concerns we had on that committee is what we are going to see in future."

He added while councillors were in favour of a cafe culture for the town centre they were concerned about people drinking outside with extra furniture on the street which could be used should trouble start.

But licensee Neil Sparkes said: "We put midnight in our opening hour plan because we close then, but we are normally done at around 10.30pm. And 46 per cent of our customers buy food usually.

"When the weather is decent people choose to eat outside, that's the kind of people we wish to attract."

Clr Andy Heaver (LAB - Great Sankey North) questioned whether councillors should put a restriction on the time the area could be used to 10.30pm.

But Clr Kevin Bennett asked what kind of restrictions were on other street pavements in other areas of the town.

The councillors were also told the licensing committee would still have to grant a pavement cafe licence and any reduced hours set by the planning committee could conflict with those from licensing.

Clr Sheila Woodyatt (CON - Lymm) said: "I think this sort of facility is an asset to the town and I think we should approve it."

Councillors eventually agreed not to set a time limit on the outdoor area and unanimously approved the scheme.

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7:33am Tue 2 Sep 14

PageA says...

Impact of pavement cafes on safety in the town has got to be one of the funniest things I've read for a long time. It's a wonder anything gets done in this town with that attitude.
Impact of pavement cafes on safety in the town has got to be one of the funniest things I've read for a long time. It's a wonder anything gets done in this town with that attitude. PageA
  • Score: 16

7:56am Tue 2 Sep 14

Take2toTango says...

That's great news!
That's great news! Take2toTango
  • Score: 2

8:20am Tue 2 Sep 14

richiepooh says...

That disused, dead and dying end of sankey street, murdered by the expansion of golden square wants to bring a little spark back to its otherwise meager existence.. and theres always someone wanting to pooh pooh it. And the risk here is higher than Friars Court, The Looking Glass, The Barley Mow, The postern gate...who are all town center pubs with outdoor seating. you will never get the "Cafe Culture" in the "Cultural Quarter" if you don't allow the more traditional Pubs to focus on the outdoor eating, What does this idiot think, the cafe culture is just a bunch of hipsters who turn up to the town removing the yob culture with their wit and decaffeinated coffee simply by councilors saying "this is now cafe culture"...no it take the support of pubs like the white heart. Jesus who elects these guys!
That disused, dead and dying end of sankey street, murdered by the expansion of golden square wants to bring a little spark back to its otherwise meager existence.. and theres always someone wanting to pooh pooh it. And the risk here is higher than Friars Court, The Looking Glass, The Barley Mow, The postern gate...who are all town center pubs with outdoor seating. you will never get the "Cafe Culture" in the "Cultural Quarter" if you don't allow the more traditional Pubs to focus on the outdoor eating, What does this idiot think, the cafe culture is just a bunch of hipsters who turn up to the town removing the yob culture with their wit and decaffeinated coffee simply by councilors saying "this is now cafe culture"...no it take the support of pubs like the white heart. Jesus who elects these guys! richiepooh
  • Score: 20

10:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

Megamike56 says...

I can not believe the attitude of the council to having a street style cafe outside the White Heart or any other building where there is no danger to the public, Eg: if the pavement or walk way is not wide enough. I am lucky as I have had the opportunity to travel the world and this is done very successfully in towns and city everywhere. I currently work in Manchester city center and have lived in London and other city's where this is very common and I have never seen any disturbance or fights in these type of cafe bars, in fact I think it brings a calmness to the area. Are the council saying they don't trust the people of Warrington and we are all of drunks and undesirables????. They need to wake up and catch up with the 21st century.
I can not believe the attitude of the council to having a street style cafe outside the White Heart or any other building where there is no danger to the public, Eg: if the pavement or walk way is not wide enough. I am lucky as I have had the opportunity to travel the world and this is done very successfully in towns and city everywhere. I currently work in Manchester city center and have lived in London and other city's where this is very common and I have never seen any disturbance or fights in these type of cafe bars, in fact I think it brings a calmness to the area. Are the council saying they don't trust the people of Warrington and we are all of drunks and undesirables????. They need to wake up and catch up with the 21st century. Megamike56
  • Score: 16

11:18am Tue 2 Sep 14

Freeborn John says...

The same council which is plotting a war against 'vertical drinkers' in the town centre doesn't want them to sit down either.
You couldn't make it up.
'Vertical drinkers', by the way, is council snob-speak for those common ladies and gentlemen who stand up while they're supping their ale when they should be sitting down in a continental style cafe sipping a dry white wine.
You couldn't make that up, either.
The same council which is plotting a war against 'vertical drinkers' in the town centre doesn't want them to sit down either. You couldn't make it up. 'Vertical drinkers', by the way, is council snob-speak for those common ladies and gentlemen who stand up while they're supping their ale when they should be sitting down in a continental style cafe sipping a dry white wine. You couldn't make that up, either. Freeborn John
  • Score: 7
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