UPDATED: Birchwood man caught by self-styled paedophile hunter sentenced

Warrington Guardian: Daniel Bates Daniel Bates

A BIRCHWOOD man, who was caught in a chatroom sting by self-styled paedophile hunters, has escaped an immediate prison term.

Daniel Bates, of Harcourt Close, Birchwood, was ensnared by a couple who launched a campaign to expose paedophile activity on the internet.

Steven Walker, aged 24, and Samantha Roberts, aged 20, from Oldham, decided to pose as teenage girls to expose indecent activity online after Samantha was raped as a 12-year-old girl in 2006.

The court heard how the couple, who have been campaigning for tougher sentences for people who commit sexual offences against children, set up pseudonyms on April 22 as a 12 and 13-year-old girl on Teen Chat – a chatroom for 13 to 19-year-olds.

Four days after the account was created, Bates using the name GUEST6546 started to message the couple, who were masquerading under the name Chloe12.

Philip Curran, prosecuting, told the court how the messages immediately turned sexually explicit despite the fact that Bates thought she was aged 12.

Later in a phone conversation, Bates told Mr Walker, who used voice distortion equipment to pose as a girl, that he was called Dave, was aged 18 and from Harpurhey in Manchester before asking her to perform a sex act.

All the exchanges were recorded and handed to the police by Mr Walker and Ms Roberts, who has bravely waived her right to anonymity.

Defending, Alexander Langhorn, said Bates, who has cerebral palsy, ‘understand his behaviour was unacceptable’ but that he had turned to alcohol due loneliness.

Sentencing, Judge Timothy Mort acknowledged the problems Bates has faced during his life.

He said: “Because of your disability you have not been able to find work and have lived an isolated life.”

“It is absolutely a concern for parents whose children are using the internet for this teenage chat line as to who is getting in touch with them. They hope they are people of a similar age,” he added.

Bates, who has no previous convictions, was sentenced to 15 months in prison which was suspended for 18 months for attempting to engage a child in sexual activity under the age of 13 at Minshull Street Crown Court in Manchester on Thursday.  

He was also handed a five-year sexual offences prevention order.

Speaking after the case, Ms Roberts said they were disappointed by the sentence and would be appealing – brandishing it as ‘ridiculous’.

Lee Barton, aged 47, from Doncaster, was also sentenced on Thursday to 21 months in prison and a five-year sexual offences prevention order.

Earlier this year Philip Moule, aged 66, from Essex, was given a three-year community order for offences arising out of their pair’s sting.

Detective Sergeant John Coleman, who led the case, said: "We understand why people may feel strong enough about this issue to take matters into their own hands and draw attention to this kind of offending.

"In this particular case, the information provided enabled us to investigate and put the offenders before the courts.

"However, we strongly encourage people not to take the law into their own hands and to contact the police at the earliest possible time to enable us to look into it professionally. It is the police's role to investigate this type of offence.

"The best thing people can do, if they have evidence of child abuse or paedophile activity, is report it to the police, Crimestoppers or CEOP so that we can conduct a thorough investigation and make sure measures are put in place to ensure the safety of any potential victims."

Editor's note: This story is not linked to Daniel William Bates, of Talbot Close, Birchwood.

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2:17pm Thu 17 Jul 14

whatever13 says...

The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.
The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise. whatever13
  • Score: -18

3:53pm Thu 17 Jul 14

B.S.M.G says...

whatever13 wrote:
The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.
Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters!
[quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.[/p][/quote]Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters! B.S.M.G
  • Score: 13

4:16pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gazhopley says...

I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101 gazhopley
  • Score: 13

4:32pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Cheap Mower says...

gazhopley wrote:
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
Or give them a good kicking
[quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101[/p][/quote]Or give them a good kicking Cheap Mower
  • Score: -7

5:03pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gazhopley says...

Cheap Mower wrote:
gazhopley wrote:
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
Or give them a good kicking
Thank you cheap mower that is a good example of "incitement to cause violence"
[quote][p][bold]Cheap Mower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101[/p][/quote]Or give them a good kicking[/p][/quote]Thank you cheap mower that is a good example of "incitement to cause violence" gazhopley
  • Score: 4

7:10pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Cheap Mower says...

gazhopley wrote:
Cheap Mower wrote:
gazhopley wrote:
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
Or give them a good kicking
Thank you cheap mower that is a good example of "incitement to cause violence"
What's the point of reporting it to the police when all the sickos get is a warning not to do it again. I worked with a guy who was found to have filmed himself haveing sex with his dog and that his computer was full of images of children, did he go to prison? Did he balls!

A good kicking is the only answer
[quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheap Mower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101[/p][/quote]Or give them a good kicking[/p][/quote]Thank you cheap mower that is a good example of "incitement to cause violence"[/p][/quote]What's the point of reporting it to the police when all the sickos get is a warning not to do it again. I worked with a guy who was found to have filmed himself haveing sex with his dog and that his computer was full of images of children, did he go to prison? Did he balls! A good kicking is the only answer Cheap Mower
  • Score: 0

9:52pm Thu 17 Jul 14

whatever13 says...

B.S.M.G wrote:
whatever13 wrote:
The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.
Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters!
You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt.

Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.
[quote][p][bold]B.S.M.G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.[/p][/quote]Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters![/p][/quote]You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt. Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket. whatever13
  • Score: -1

11:37pm Thu 17 Jul 14

local man says...

Cheap Mower wrote:
gazhopley wrote:
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
Or give them a good kicking
Mower - IF YOU SUSPECT isnt the same as if you know, save the kicking for when you are at least a bit more certain.

Gaz - Im not sure you'd get into any trouble for pretending to be a 12 yr old girl and not grooming anyone, I don't imagine the cops spend too long trying to catch kids setting up a profile who are not trying to groom anyone, its the predators not the prey they are after.
[quote][p][bold]Cheap Mower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101[/p][/quote]Or give them a good kicking[/p][/quote]Mower - IF YOU SUSPECT isnt the same as if you know, save the kicking for when you are at least a bit more certain. Gaz - Im not sure you'd get into any trouble for pretending to be a 12 yr old girl and not grooming anyone, I don't imagine the cops spend too long trying to catch kids setting up a profile who are not trying to groom anyone, its the predators not the prey they are after. local man
  • Score: 3

9:48am Fri 18 Jul 14

jonesy1980 says...

Cheap Mower wrote:
gazhopley wrote:
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
Or give them a good kicking
Not sure suspecting someone is enough to warrant a kicking. Same as when someone's name gets dragged through the mud when accused of rape before they're even found guilty, their life is ruined regardless if the outcome.

If they're a confirmed paedo though, then yes, lots of kicking.
[quote][p][bold]Cheap Mower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101[/p][/quote]Or give them a good kicking[/p][/quote]Not sure suspecting someone is enough to warrant a kicking. Same as when someone's name gets dragged through the mud when accused of rape before they're even found guilty, their life is ruined regardless if the outcome. If they're a confirmed paedo though, then yes, lots of kicking. jonesy1980
  • Score: 3

1:57pm Fri 18 Jul 14

fedster says...

jonesy1980 wrote:
Cheap Mower wrote:
gazhopley wrote:
I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101
Or give them a good kicking
Not sure suspecting someone is enough to warrant a kicking. Same as when someone's name gets dragged through the mud when accused of rape before they're even found guilty, their life is ruined regardless if the outcome.

If they're a confirmed paedo though, then yes, lots of kicking.
a rumour or lie can make it round the world before the truth has even started the race.

in this day and age of technology you have to be weary about what gets posted on the internet as a news story.

example
a young lads picture floated round the social media sites saying he had abused a animal
he received a hell off a kicking followed by months of abuse eventually he hung himself.
a few days later it emerges that he wasnt involved in any animal abuse it was his ex that posted the pictures.

thats why police investigations take so long they have to dig for all the relevant information.

Any and all information and evidence handed to the police has to be triple checked before its handed to the cps

i admire there dedication but theres a fine line to walk with this responsibility
[quote][p][bold]jonesy1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheap Mower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazhopley[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't recommend that people take it upon themselves to do the same, there are police officers who are trained and regularly work undercover online to expose "underage predators". If this hunter was to come across an undercover detective doing the same then he would have been in trouble, there is also the fact that the sentence received wasn't as harsh as it could have been, this could be due to the case not being as strong as it was not carried out by the police. If you suspect anyone of committing any "online offences" including sexual predatory, bullying, incitement to cause violence etc then contact your local police on 101[/p][/quote]Or give them a good kicking[/p][/quote]Not sure suspecting someone is enough to warrant a kicking. Same as when someone's name gets dragged through the mud when accused of rape before they're even found guilty, their life is ruined regardless if the outcome. If they're a confirmed paedo though, then yes, lots of kicking.[/p][/quote]a rumour or lie can make it round the world before the truth has even started the race. in this day and age of technology you have to be weary about what gets posted on the internet as a news story. example a young lads picture floated round the social media sites saying he had abused a animal he received a hell off a kicking followed by months of abuse eventually he hung himself. a few days later it emerges that he wasnt involved in any animal abuse it was his ex that posted the pictures. thats why police investigations take so long they have to dig for all the relevant information. Any and all information and evidence handed to the police has to be triple checked before its handed to the cps i admire there dedication but theres a fine line to walk with this responsibility fedster
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Fri 18 Jul 14

B.S.M.G says...

whatever13 wrote:
B.S.M.G wrote:
whatever13 wrote:
The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.
Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters!
You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt.

Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.
This is like saying someone who goes out helping to look for a missing child is actually helping the child to go missing... Get in the real world, its obvious what this hunter was doing, helping to expose them just like if i got the chance to i would do the same as well, that doesnt mean i was just the same as the pervert, theres ways of talking to a peado without talking 'dirty' yourself to it, it doesnt mean the hunter would be getting a 'thrill' from this but listening to the peado talk about not very nice things is just what they have to do to finally get this man arrested!

Well done hunter, keep at your job!!
[quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.S.M.G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.[/p][/quote]Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters![/p][/quote]You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt. Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.[/p][/quote]This is like saying someone who goes out helping to look for a missing child is actually helping the child to go missing... Get in the real world, its obvious what this hunter was doing, helping to expose them just like if i got the chance to i would do the same as well, that doesnt mean i was just the same as the pervert, theres ways of talking to a peado without talking 'dirty' yourself to it, it doesnt mean the hunter would be getting a 'thrill' from this but listening to the peado talk about not very nice things is just what they have to do to finally get this man arrested! Well done hunter, keep at your job!! B.S.M.G
  • Score: 0

2:05pm Fri 18 Jul 14

B.S.M.G says...

whatever13 wrote:
B.S.M.G wrote:
whatever13 wrote:
The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.
Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters!
You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt.

Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.
This is like saying someone who goes out helping to look for a missing child is actually helping the child to go missing... Get in the real world, its obvious what this hunter was doing, helping to expose them just like if i got the chance to i would do the same as well, that doesnt mean i was just the same as the pervert, theres ways of talking to a peado without talking 'dirty' yourself to it, it doesnt mean the hunter would be getting a 'thrill' from this but listening to the peado talk about not very nice things is just what they have to do to finally get this man arrested!

Well done hunter, keep at your job!!
[quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.S.M.G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.[/p][/quote]Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters![/p][/quote]You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt. Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.[/p][/quote]This is like saying someone who goes out helping to look for a missing child is actually helping the child to go missing... Get in the real world, its obvious what this hunter was doing, helping to expose them just like if i got the chance to i would do the same as well, that doesnt mean i was just the same as the pervert, theres ways of talking to a peado without talking 'dirty' yourself to it, it doesnt mean the hunter would be getting a 'thrill' from this but listening to the peado talk about not very nice things is just what they have to do to finally get this man arrested! Well done hunter, keep at your job!! B.S.M.G
  • Score: -4

11:00pm Sat 19 Jul 14

whatever13 says...

B.S.M.G wrote:
whatever13 wrote:
B.S.M.G wrote:
whatever13 wrote:
The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.
Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters!
You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt.

Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.
This is like saying someone who goes out helping to look for a missing child is actually helping the child to go missing... Get in the real world, its obvious what this hunter was doing, helping to expose them just like if i got the chance to i would do the same as well, that doesnt mean i was just the same as the pervert, theres ways of talking to a peado without talking 'dirty' yourself to it, it doesnt mean the hunter would be getting a 'thrill' from this but listening to the peado talk about not very nice things is just what they have to do to finally get this man arrested!

Well done hunter, keep at your job!!
I had a niece killed in an RTA by a driver doing 35mph in a 30 mph She didnt have the chance to fulfil her dream. The driver spent a short time in prison, is out again and his driving licence handed back to him. If i purchased a speed camera logging everyone who were over the limit, would you support my actions? I despise all acts of crime and none more than the speeding driver, drunken driver , mobile/texting driver who knows full well the consequences of their actions

Padeophilla is gross, I don't believe in going give the guilty parties "kicks"
[quote][p][bold]B.S.M.G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.S.M.G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever13[/bold] wrote: The self-styled paedophile hunter requires investigating to. No doubt they were claiming to be someone they were not, wonder how many conversations they had with teenagers and young children under his/her guise.[/p][/quote]Why would they investigate the hunter, they're trying to expose the peados, not hide them away, without these hunters this man may of never been caught! We need more hunters![/p][/quote]You and others may think that way I don't. This so called hunter no doubt has had communications with other children pretending to be a child/teenager themself. How do we know he/she may not have had some sexual delight in his/her so called hunt. Investigating child abuse isn't a self learning tool. To many amateurs can damage investigations, this hunter was lucky, but IMO still requires investigation of his/her whole computer data investigating . So easy to hide under a blanket.[/p][/quote]This is like saying someone who goes out helping to look for a missing child is actually helping the child to go missing... Get in the real world, its obvious what this hunter was doing, helping to expose them just like if i got the chance to i would do the same as well, that doesnt mean i was just the same as the pervert, theres ways of talking to a peado without talking 'dirty' yourself to it, it doesnt mean the hunter would be getting a 'thrill' from this but listening to the peado talk about not very nice things is just what they have to do to finally get this man arrested! Well done hunter, keep at your job!![/p][/quote]I had a niece killed in an RTA by a driver doing 35mph in a 30 mph She didnt have the chance to fulfil her dream. The driver spent a short time in prison, is out again and his driving licence handed back to him. If i purchased a speed camera logging everyone who were over the limit, would you support my actions? I despise all acts of crime and none more than the speeding driver, drunken driver , mobile/texting driver who knows full well the consequences of their actions Padeophilla is gross, I don't believe in going give the guilty parties "kicks" whatever13
  • Score: 4
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