Mr Smith's set to be demolished

Warrington Guardian: Mr Smith's is set to be demolished Mr Smith's is set to be demolished

THE iconic Mr Smith’s nightclub in the centre of Warrington looks set to be bulldozed.

Owners of the building, Salford Quays-based LPC Living Limited, told the council of its plans on Friday.

According to documents seen by the Warrington Guardian, the building will be pulled down on August 11.

Because the building, which has been closed for four years, is not listed or protected in law, the council has no say in the move.

Clr Steve Parish (LAB - Bewsey and Whitecross) is ward councillor for the area.

He said: “It looks like the council has little say in this matter.

“The buildings are a decent example of the period architecture but whether that is good enough to save it is another matter.

“Most people will have fond memories of it.”

Mr Smith’s was formerly a cinema before it rocketed to fame in the 1980s, attracting massive numbers of revellers each week.

The club staged the first Hit Man and Her ITV show in 1988, presented by Pete Waterman and Michaela Strachan.

More recently, it had short openings as Synergy and Halo in the late 2000s.

And the council had a failed attempt to buy the building in 2011 when it wanted to include the site in its plans to improve the waterfront area around the Mersey.

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9:04am Mon 14 Jul 14

Freeborn John says...

Somebody's going to have some sport trying to get in and out of their new luxury town house villas...
Somebody's going to have some sport trying to get in and out of their new luxury town house villas... Freeborn John
  • Score: 14

9:05am Mon 14 Jul 14

beckyhipkiss says...

It should become a cinema! Perfect spot!
It should become a cinema! Perfect spot! beckyhipkiss
  • Score: 39

9:17am Mon 14 Jul 14

davehedgehog says...

Freeborn John wrote:
Somebody's going to have some sport trying to get in and out of their new luxury town house villas...
I think the coal train is only once per hour!
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: Somebody's going to have some sport trying to get in and out of their new luxury town house villas...[/p][/quote]I think the coal train is only once per hour! davehedgehog
  • Score: 8

12:58pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Penketh Pony says...

Hello flats, nice to meet you.
Hello flats, nice to meet you. Penketh Pony
  • Score: 12

1:33pm Mon 14 Jul 14

liam mcdonnell says...

Should put a big statue of me there eating a pasty gazing at the stars
Should put a big statue of me there eating a pasty gazing at the stars liam mcdonnell
  • Score: 13

6:18pm Mon 14 Jul 14

WillieBob says...

Good riddance.
Good riddance. WillieBob
  • Score: -13

7:59pm Mon 14 Jul 14

whatsgoingon1 says...

It should become a theatre. Use the land around it to become a car park to create income, and for the use on performance days/nights.
It should become a theatre. Use the land around it to become a car park to create income, and for the use on performance days/nights. whatsgoingon1
  • Score: 20

10:43pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Graham Tarry says...

It's an iconic building. Prefer it to be left as an empty shell if no one has the foresight (or cash) to convert it into something. Will be sadly missed if demolished. Great memories of going to the cinema. I remember the queue around the block when Jaws was on!
It's an iconic building. Prefer it to be left as an empty shell if no one has the foresight (or cash) to convert it into something. Will be sadly missed if demolished. Great memories of going to the cinema. I remember the queue around the block when Jaws was on! Graham Tarry
  • Score: 13

11:23pm Mon 14 Jul 14

toodlepip1 says...

This is a beautiful old building, and should be kept. Once its gone, its gone, and we will have to look at some crappy eyesore that has taken a couple of weeks to be built.
This is a beautiful old building, and should be kept. Once its gone, its gone, and we will have to look at some crappy eyesore that has taken a couple of weeks to be built. toodlepip1
  • Score: 13

8:32am Tue 15 Jul 14

motorhead2009 says...

Sadly another iconic warrington building will be razed to the ground. I am sure the Council could do something if it wished however it has always supported the destruction of the history of Warrington to the favour of developers, not sure why..........i wonder what is in it for them ?
Sadly another iconic warrington building will be razed to the ground. I am sure the Council could do something if it wished however it has always supported the destruction of the history of Warrington to the favour of developers, not sure why..........i wonder what is in it for them ? motorhead2009
  • Score: 8

12:46pm Tue 15 Jul 14

gedpal1 says...

I can remember seeing DR Who and The Daleks as well as watching the Starship Enterprise zoom across the screen when it was a cinema. In my opinion it should have been turned into an arts Centre long before the Pyramid was built. It has room for multiple functions to take place as well as room for a small cafe/bar. but I fear that it will either be demolished for unaffordable housing, a new pub complex, remember the Odeon, or another carpark. It's a pity that this building hasn't been used properly for the last two decades, what a waste! Shame on the council for not stopping it from being bulldozed!
I can remember seeing DR Who and The Daleks as well as watching the Starship Enterprise zoom across the screen when it was a cinema. In my opinion it should have been turned into an arts Centre long before the Pyramid was built. It has room for multiple functions to take place as well as room for a small cafe/bar. but I fear that it will either be demolished for unaffordable housing, a new pub complex, remember the Odeon, or another carpark. It's a pity that this building hasn't been used properly for the last two decades, what a waste! Shame on the council for not stopping it from being bulldozed! gedpal1
  • Score: 11

1:27pm Tue 15 Jul 14

fedster says...

can they build on it ?

since the new defences have gone in that car park seem to get a lot more water into it.
can they build on it ? since the new defences have gone in that car park seem to get a lot more water into it. fedster
  • Score: 0

1:57pm Tue 15 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

I think the councils "out of our control" stance is a lie showing their blatant disregard and even contempt for Warringtons history. they could..
1. Slap a preservation order on it.
2. do a compulsory purchase
3. List the building, they only have to be 30 years old to be a listed building

especially since this is the only building of that period and style in Warrington that I can think of.

COUNCIL ACT NOW !
I think the councils "out of our control" stance is a lie showing their blatant disregard and even contempt for Warringtons history. they could.. 1. Slap a preservation order on it. 2. do a compulsory purchase 3. List the building, they only have to be 30 years old to be a listed building especially since this is the only building of that period and style in Warrington that I can think of. COUNCIL ACT NOW ! richiepooh
  • Score: 17

2:01pm Tue 15 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

quick research, ANYONE can apply for a building to be listed, I cannot spare time to see this through with the dedication I would like to commit, please someone go here, apply and take up this cause

http://www.english-h
eritage.org.uk/carin
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or-protection/
quick research, ANYONE can apply for a building to be listed, I cannot spare time to see this through with the dedication I would like to commit, please someone go here, apply and take up this cause http://www.english-h eritage.org.uk/carin g/listing/criteria-f or-protection/ richiepooh
  • Score: 2

7:48am Wed 16 Jul 14

deakodude says...

This buliding closed down as a cinema because of the introduction of video and everybody stopped going.Would it really be any different in the digital age we now live in for another cinema be able to make it pay ?
This buliding closed down as a cinema because of the introduction of video and everybody stopped going.Would it really be any different in the digital age we now live in for another cinema be able to make it pay ? deakodude
  • Score: -4

8:30am Wed 16 Jul 14

Penketh Pony says...

deakodude wrote:
This buliding closed down as a cinema because of the introduction of video and everybody stopped going.Would it really be any different in the digital age we now live in for another cinema be able to make it pay ?
With the right people, investment and strategy of course it could be turned into a cinema once again. But it's far more profitable to demolish and build flats/houses/apartme
nts. Money wins every time.
[quote][p][bold]deakodude[/bold] wrote: This buliding closed down as a cinema because of the introduction of video and everybody stopped going.Would it really be any different in the digital age we now live in for another cinema be able to make it pay ?[/p][/quote]With the right people, investment and strategy of course it could be turned into a cinema once again. But it's far more profitable to demolish and build flats/houses/apartme nts. Money wins every time. Penketh Pony
  • Score: 3

12:35pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Cat2014 says...

I work in Manchester and most of the people havent ventured to Warrington before but they have heard of Mr Smiths!!!
Sad to see it go!! I'm behind any petition etc to save the building and turn it into something else!!!
I work in Manchester and most of the people havent ventured to Warrington before but they have heard of Mr Smiths!!! Sad to see it go!! I'm behind any petition etc to save the building and turn it into something else!!! Cat2014
  • Score: 7

3:29pm Wed 16 Jul 14

RaychJayne says...

Its about time warrington had an ice rink/cinema/youth centre something for the youths to do. Or failing that instead of using our tax money on a building that would clearing not benefit from being dragged down before they clearly know what to do with it, they should fix the roads/houses that are lacking some loving!!
Its about time warrington had an ice rink/cinema/youth centre something for the youths to do. Or failing that instead of using our tax money on a building that would clearing not benefit from being dragged down before they clearly know what to do with it, they should fix the roads/houses that are lacking some loving!! RaychJayne
  • Score: 4

4:25pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Penketh Pony says...

RaychJayne wrote:
Its about time warrington had an ice rink/cinema/youth centre something for the youths to do. Or failing that instead of using our tax money on a building that would clearing not benefit from being dragged down before they clearly know what to do with it, they should fix the roads/houses that are lacking some loving!!
The building is in private ownership therefore WBC have no say in how the building is utilised, other than the options explained before like CPO etc.

People seem to forget this.
[quote][p][bold]RaychJayne[/bold] wrote: Its about time warrington had an ice rink/cinema/youth centre something for the youths to do. Or failing that instead of using our tax money on a building that would clearing not benefit from being dragged down before they clearly know what to do with it, they should fix the roads/houses that are lacking some loving!![/p][/quote]The building is in private ownership therefore WBC have no say in how the building is utilised, other than the options explained before like CPO etc. People seem to forget this. Penketh Pony
  • Score: -3

10:09am Thu 17 Jul 14

motorhead2009 says...

Has anyone actually looked into applying for listed status yet ? i dont use facebook etc so dont know if there is anything going on in the background but i have done some digging around this and it isnt that difficult, the issue is timescales.

anyone knwo if thi sis happening already before i put a process in motion ?
Has anyone actually looked into applying for listed status yet ? i dont use facebook etc so dont know if there is anything going on in the background but i have done some digging around this and it isnt that difficult, the issue is timescales. anyone knwo if thi sis happening already before i put a process in motion ? motorhead2009
  • Score: 4

12:10pm Thu 17 Jul 14

akabaz says...

A lot of the voters ask for trees and parkland, unfortunately this will never happen as the owners will never lose the money that the site can generate
A lot of the voters ask for trees and parkland, unfortunately this will never happen as the owners will never lose the money that the site can generate akabaz
  • Score: 0

1:21pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Loafer123 says...

a Hogey Wagon memorial
a Hogey Wagon memorial Loafer123
  • Score: 3

5:05pm Thu 17 Jul 14

brunosmum says...

akabaz wrote:
A lot of the voters ask for trees and parkland, unfortunately this will never happen as the owners will never lose the money that the site can generate
Sadly I agree, trees and parkland are always way down the list. I wish they weren't though.
[quote][p][bold]akabaz[/bold] wrote: A lot of the voters ask for trees and parkland, unfortunately this will never happen as the owners will never lose the money that the site can generate[/p][/quote]Sadly I agree, trees and parkland are always way down the list. I wish they weren't though. brunosmum
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Thu 17 Jul 14

brunosmum says...

Loafer123 wrote:
a Hogey Wagon memorial
Ah I remember it well !
[quote][p][bold]Loafer123[/bold] wrote: a Hogey Wagon memorial[/p][/quote]Ah I remember it well ! brunosmum
  • Score: 6

5:53pm Thu 17 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

Penketh Pony wrote:
RaychJayne wrote:
Its about time warrington had an ice rink/cinema/youth centre something for the youths to do. Or failing that instead of using our tax money on a building that would clearing not benefit from being dragged down before they clearly know what to do with it, they should fix the roads/houses that are lacking some loving!!
The building is in private ownership therefore WBC have no say in how the building is utilised, other than the options explained before like CPO etc.

People seem to forget this.
It doesn't matter if its privately owned if it is of historical significance, which it is as its the only Art Deco building of its kind in warrington and would make a great theatre and band venu
[quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RaychJayne[/bold] wrote: Its about time warrington had an ice rink/cinema/youth centre something for the youths to do. Or failing that instead of using our tax money on a building that would clearing not benefit from being dragged down before they clearly know what to do with it, they should fix the roads/houses that are lacking some loving!![/p][/quote]The building is in private ownership therefore WBC have no say in how the building is utilised, other than the options explained before like CPO etc. People seem to forget this.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter if its privately owned if it is of historical significance, which it is as its the only Art Deco building of its kind in warrington and would make a great theatre and band venu richiepooh
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Thu 17 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

This is what we are losing
http://www.flickr.co
m/photos/oldcinemaph
otos/3203987048/

HISTORY
This is what we are losing http://www.flickr.co m/photos/oldcinemaph otos/3203987048/ HISTORY richiepooh
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Barbara K says...

Yet another example of the council (in particular the planning department) failing to act on behalf of the people they represent. I grow more disillusioned by the day in the council who continually chase council tax revenue but do nothing for the town, unless its one of their own vanity projects.
Yet another example of the council (in particular the planning department) failing to act on behalf of the people they represent. I grow more disillusioned by the day in the council who continually chase council tax revenue but do nothing for the town, unless its one of their own vanity projects. Barbara K
  • Score: 3

6:04pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Sankey4 says...

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  • Score: 6

6:42pm Thu 17 Jul 14

tojahejome says...

yet again a story by the Guardian leaving out some facts. The Building known as 'Mr Smiths' did indeed used to be a cinema, but immediately after that it was a bingo hall.
yet again a story by the Guardian leaving out some facts. The Building known as 'Mr Smiths' did indeed used to be a cinema, but immediately after that it was a bingo hall. tojahejome
  • Score: 4

2:38am Fri 18 Jul 14

chrishahar says...

I don't see why Warrington Council could not successful obtain the land, maybe a reason should be announced in the article for why it was declined in 2011? Obviously a redevelopment of that whole area with parkland would be nice, perhaps something to reflect on Warrington's industrial era, since we're slowing losing the memory and history of the buildings.. with that in mind, whatever happened to the Cockhedge Mills chimney cap from the land on which the Bus Interchange was built? Very curious..
I don't see why Warrington Council could not successful obtain the land, maybe a reason should be announced in the article for why it was declined in 2011? Obviously a redevelopment of that whole area with parkland would be nice, perhaps something to reflect on Warrington's industrial era, since we're slowing losing the memory and history of the buildings.. with that in mind, whatever happened to the Cockhedge Mills chimney cap from the land on which the Bus Interchange was built? Very curious.. chrishahar
  • Score: 1

9:11am Fri 18 Jul 14

Penketh Pony says...

For all the people who are calling for the building to be left vacant in perpetuity for the sake of a mildly interesting example of Art Deco architecture and 'days gone by' memories of Warrington nightlife:

If you owned a plot of land in a prime location with a vacant/underused building on it, with the potential to make millions of pounds through the redevelopment of it, what would you do?

I imagine 99% of people would do the same. Forget trees and parkland, there's no monetary return. Unfortunately, the majority of the time, money makes the world go round.
For all the people who are calling for the building to be left vacant in perpetuity for the sake of a mildly interesting example of Art Deco architecture and 'days gone by' memories of Warrington nightlife: If you owned a plot of land in a prime location with a vacant/underused building on it, with the potential to make millions of pounds through the redevelopment of it, what would you do? I imagine 99% of people would do the same. Forget trees and parkland, there's no monetary return. Unfortunately, the majority of the time, money makes the world go round. Penketh Pony
  • Score: 3

7:54pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Crunchy Frog says...

Is nothing sacred in this town?

I shall fondly remember this building as the ABC cinema, which unfortunately closed down in 1982 to later become Mr Smiths.

iAfter losing Edwin Allen and The Waysiders, it is time for us Warringtonians to tell LPC Living where they can stick their proposals.
Is nothing sacred in this town? I shall fondly remember this building as the ABC cinema, which unfortunately closed down in 1982 to later become Mr Smiths. iAfter losing Edwin Allen and The Waysiders, it is time for us Warringtonians to tell LPC Living where they can stick their proposals. Crunchy Frog
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Mon 21 Jul 14

lucysears says...

Things close because people don't use them
Things close because people don't use them lucysears
  • Score: 1

9:24am Thu 24 Jul 14

RichardHead says...

It should be turned in to an arena look how fast tickets for john bishop sold out at the tiny parr hall if they kept the building as it is for the iconic and historical value on the outside and changed the inside to make a massive arena with various shows on I think more and more people would have a reason to go in to warrington town centre of a night time as its slowly turning in to a ghost town
It should be turned in to an arena look how fast tickets for john bishop sold out at the tiny parr hall if they kept the building as it is for the iconic and historical value on the outside and changed the inside to make a massive arena with various shows on I think more and more people would have a reason to go in to warrington town centre of a night time as its slowly turning in to a ghost town RichardHead
  • Score: 0
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