LiveStockton Heath Recycling Centre call in meeting

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Summary

  • Scrutiny committee discussing closure of recycling centre in Stockton Heath
  • Council's executive board made the decision as part of new contract for waste management
  • Liberal Democrat's Clr Peter Walker called in decision to be reviewed
  • Sites no consultation and impact on South Warrington among reasons against closure

8:14pm

And that brings the meeting to a close.

8:11pm

That will be at the next executive board on Monday, July 14.

8:10pm

That means the executive board will have four points to examine which have been referred back from the scrutiny committee.

8:09pm

On whether viable other options were available the committee voted unanimously to hear what other options were considered.

8:06pm

Not considering the financial implications was voted five to two to offer advice for more financial information available.

8:02pm

On clarity of aims and desired outcome the committee voted four to three not to offer any advice.

8:00pm

On openness the committee voted one to offer no advice, five to offer advice that the council should be more specific in what it wants to do and one abstained.

7:56pm

On due consultation the committee voted six to one to send advice to the executive board.

The advice is for a six week public consultation to then go back to the executive board.

7:52pm

On proportionality councillors voted five in favour of offering no comment against two.

7:48pm

Councillors are now voting on each point.

7:44pm

When asked about other outlying areas such as Burtonwood and Culcheth and their distance compared to the likes of Lymm councillors we're told the distances were the same.

7:41pm

Clr Steve Parish asked how much would be saved by the centre closure.

he was told in total the contract would save £450,000 including all the changes. 

7:38pm

7:27pm Thu 3 Jul 14

grey_man says

Will David Keane come up with some examples to back up his view? Because I can come up with a few that disprove it.

7:37pm

Clr Ian Marks asks whether there was a consideration to go out to retender after the potential contractors went from 22 to two then one.

7:32pm

Clr David Keane said consultation was always planned once the decision was made.

7:30pm

Clr Wendy Johnson voices her disappointment why south Warrington councillors we're not consulted.

 

7:26pm

Clr Colin Froggatt questioned whether the closure of Stockton Heath was mentioned in the forward plan or budget for councillors to question he was told no.

7:21pm

Clr David Keane says he had not had a single contact from Liberal Democrat councillors over the matter.

 

7:13pm

 

I love my town north or south of any border we wish to create. We are one town and the council will do its best for the whole of this town.

Clr David Keane

7:08pm

Now it is moving to the people who took the decision with Clr David Keane leading their side.

7:03pm

Clr Peter Walker ends his speech by calling on the current contract to be extended for consultation.

7:00pm

 

It's a community recycling centre but there has been no consultation with the community.

Clr Peter Walker

6:58pm

Clr Bob Barr questions why there is not more monitoring of sites to work out how much they are used.

 

6:54pm

Clr Celia Jordan questioned why a Labour councillor was already aware of the closure when she knew nothing of it.

6:50pm

John Wesley from Warrington Friends of the Earth passed in a petition and told councillors of the impact on the environment.

6:47pm

Ann Raymond, from Stockton Heatharish Council read out comments from residents.

Among those are "So much for democracy and the right to protest."

She added: "All the people of Warrington want is for the council to listen and right things."

6:37pm

The meeting is being told about how a call in works and that councillors who called it in need to show the decision breached the principles of decision making.

6:31pm

Warrington South MP David Mowat is in attendance at the meeting.

6:30pm

And we are now under way.

6:29pm

That means that the committee itself cannot stop the closure.

6:29pm

The scrutiny committee can decide to either offer no advice and the decision be implemented straight away, offer advice for the executive board to consider or refer it to full council as it does not feel the call in falls into its remit.

6:26pm

The meeting will hear from Clr David Keane who is the executive board member for environment as well as Clr Peter Walker who called in the decision.

6:24pm

The chamber is filling up now as the public and councillors take their seats.

6:07pm

The meeting is obviously the hottest ticket in town as they are handing out blue stickers to those who will be able to go into the council chamber.

Those who miss out will have to listen in through speakers from Committee Room One.

5:47pm

A petition with more than 600 signatures has already been collected by campaigners who will be handing it in to the meeting tonight.

5:47pm

But Liberal Democrat councillors and residents in South Warrington are calling for the decision to be reviewed due to the detrimental effect on residents there.

They say it will leave residents in the south facing up to hour long round trips to visit the other centres and could lead to an increase in flytipping.

 

5:45pm

The council say the centre has to close because the budget for recycling centres has been reduced due to austerity measures.

At present there are three recycling centres - Stockton Heath, Woolston and Gatewarth.

5:38pm

MEMBERS of the council's scrutiny committee will be debating the decision to close Stockton Heath Recycling Centre at a meeting tonight.

The move was made as part of the award of a new contract for the management of community recycling centres.

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7:27pm Thu 3 Jul 14

grey_man says...

Will David Keane come up with some examples to back up his view? Because I can come up with a few that disprove it.
Will David Keane come up with some examples to back up his view? Because I can come up with a few that disprove it. grey_man
  • Score: 0

7:35pm Thu 3 Jul 14

grey_man says...

"Consultation was planned once the decision was made"

Beyond satire.
"Consultation was planned once the decision was made" Beyond satire. grey_man
  • Score: 4

9:28pm Thu 3 Jul 14

AppleJunkie says...

Ok, so Stockton Heath closes, waiting times get longer and longer at Woolston which at times is bad enough with the poor layout of the centre, are the opening times going to get extended? New Cut Lane road surface is terrible which is full of pot holes, with increased traffic this is going to get worse, are the any plans to resurface the road (properly, not patch it like everywhere else) to cope??
Ok, so Stockton Heath closes, waiting times get longer and longer at Woolston which at times is bad enough with the poor layout of the centre, are the opening times going to get extended? New Cut Lane road surface is terrible which is full of pot holes, with increased traffic this is going to get worse, are the any plans to resurface the road (properly, not patch it like everywhere else) to cope?? AppleJunkie
  • Score: 3

7:47am Fri 4 Jul 14

pnewsome says...

Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.
Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites. pnewsome
  • Score: 1

8:38am Fri 4 Jul 14

grey_man says...

pnewsome wrote:
Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.
Which exacerbates the problems of recycling and disposing of waste for people in outlying parts of the borough (not just South Warrington).

Also, this decision to close SH tip and cut hours at two others appears to have been made to a greater or less extent at the behest of the only firm considered for the contract. Amazingly, this is also the firm giving the council the runaround over Arpley Landfill.

I know David Keane says that the council is working in the interests of all people in Warrington, but that is self-evidently untrue.
[quote][p][bold]pnewsome[/bold] wrote: Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.[/p][/quote]Which exacerbates the problems of recycling and disposing of waste for people in outlying parts of the borough (not just South Warrington). Also, this decision to close SH tip and cut hours at two others appears to have been made to a greater or less extent at the behest of the only firm considered for the contract. Amazingly, this is also the firm giving the council the runaround over Arpley Landfill. I know David Keane says that the council is working in the interests of all people in Warrington, but that is self-evidently untrue. grey_man
  • Score: 2

9:46am Fri 4 Jul 14

AppleJunkie says...

pnewsome wrote:
Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.
Great!! Current hours during the week are 8.00am - 6.00pm, if this reduces how are those of us that work between those hours suppose make use of the centers?
[quote][p][bold]pnewsome[/bold] wrote: Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.[/p][/quote]Great!! Current hours during the week are 8.00am - 6.00pm, if this reduces how are those of us that work between those hours suppose make use of the centers? AppleJunkie
  • Score: 2

10:03am Fri 4 Jul 14

grey_man says...

AppleJunkie wrote:
pnewsome wrote:
Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.
Great!! Current hours during the week are 8.00am - 6.00pm, if this reduces how are those of us that work between those hours suppose make use of the centers?
You're not. You'll either have to wait till the weekend and join the queues along with everybody else, stop recycling or fly tip it. Those are the options the council is giving people.
[quote][p][bold]AppleJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pnewsome[/bold] wrote: Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.[/p][/quote]Great!! Current hours during the week are 8.00am - 6.00pm, if this reduces how are those of us that work between those hours suppose make use of the centers?[/p][/quote]You're not. You'll either have to wait till the weekend and join the queues along with everybody else, stop recycling or fly tip it. Those are the options the council is giving people. grey_man
  • Score: 4

2:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

AppleJunkie says...

grey_man wrote:
AppleJunkie wrote:
pnewsome wrote:
Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.
Great!! Current hours during the week are 8.00am - 6.00pm, if this reduces how are those of us that work between those hours suppose make use of the centers?
You're not. You'll either have to wait till the weekend and join the queues along with everybody else, stop recycling or fly tip it. Those are the options the council is giving people.
UNACCEPTABLE! Maybe I'll start using the town hall skips!
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AppleJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pnewsome[/bold] wrote: Actually they have already said they will be reducing hours at the 2 remaining sites.[/p][/quote]Great!! Current hours during the week are 8.00am - 6.00pm, if this reduces how are those of us that work between those hours suppose make use of the centers?[/p][/quote]You're not. You'll either have to wait till the weekend and join the queues along with everybody else, stop recycling or fly tip it. Those are the options the council is giving people.[/p][/quote]UNACCEPTABLE! Maybe I'll start using the town hall skips! AppleJunkie
  • Score: 2

8:52pm Sat 5 Jul 14

grey-area says...

I do agree it needs closing because it's in a lousy spot and probably selling the land (done deal I think)
But does need reopening in a more suitable site south of the canal.
I do agree it needs closing because it's in a lousy spot and probably selling the land (done deal I think) But does need reopening in a more suitable site south of the canal. grey-area
  • Score: 0

11:02pm Sun 6 Jul 14

local man says...

I live in Warrington but work in Leigh - and the tip in Leigh is run by a private contractor and is absolutely superb, open really late including weekends, recycle almost everything, staff always on hand to help - and friendly too (not just to attractive females please note staff at New Cut Lane) helping you with heavy stuff and forever sweeping up around the skips to prevent the dreaded punctures I used to get from Woolston.
If the council seriously think people can skip everything on week days during the working day or at weekends when the queue's will be horrendous then they are living in a dream, fly tipping and the associated costs to the council and many landowners including farmers will sky rocket.
I live in Warrington but work in Leigh - and the tip in Leigh is run by a private contractor and is absolutely superb, open really late including weekends, recycle almost everything, staff always on hand to help - and friendly too (not just to attractive females please note staff at New Cut Lane) helping you with heavy stuff and forever sweeping up around the skips to prevent the dreaded punctures I used to get from Woolston. If the council seriously think people can skip everything on week days during the working day or at weekends when the queue's will be horrendous then they are living in a dream, fly tipping and the associated costs to the council and many landowners including farmers will sky rocket. local man
  • Score: 1

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