LiveLIVE: Residents have their say on closure of Sankey Medical Centre

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Summary

  • Residents will have 30 minutes to make comments/ask questions during tonight's meeting starting at 6pm
  • Patients were given a few weeks notice the practice in Great Sankey would close and they would be transferred to Orford surgery in February
  • Neighbouring Medicx pharmacy staff have claimed many residents have been in tears over the news

7:58pm

Frustrating night for many but some appear happy to finally have the chance to have their say

thanks for joining us.

7:57pm

That appears to be it for tonight.

some hope for residents if deal with St Helens practice can be sorted short term

7:55pm

7:46pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Karlar says

PageA wrote:
What's the point of having a brand new medical centre if people stick with their own doctor? Best way to make it look like a success when it opens is to get rid of what's there now and build demand for the new service by making people travel to Orford for couple of years. I hope we keep a close eye on the residents of Great Sankey and the impact this chess game has on their health. It's an abomination!
Who is the NHS for? Who is it supposed to serve managers or patients? It makes you wonder whether those managing the service really understand what they are doing or are up to the job. There is certainly a complete lack of official empathy.

7:54pm

To sum up Mr Coleman won't be doing anything illegal, will look at lists being open and will go into discussions with St Helens practice about extending their catchment area.

 

7:49pm

And he adds we're one month in

7:48pm

Mr Coleman says commissioning process has begun but it's not a quick process and they are currently reviewing services available.

it takes 12 months to commission primary care service.

7:46pm

Medicx pharmacy employee Rose has been praised for keeping patients in the loop.

 

7:41pm

Mr Coleman says he can only do what's legal and is bound by EU procurement law.

he says ' our processes are laboriously slow and it frustrates us in the system.'

7:35pm

NHS now being criticised for lack of common sense and action

7:31pm

Some hope for patients as GP from St Helens stands up and says he is keen to help and discuss with NHS England

7:29pm

Clr Jean Carter says she is annoyed residents are not getting any proper answers. 

Mr Coleman repeats it was not their decision to close surgery and don't have legal powers to open it.

more frustration for residents

7:27pm

Mr Coleman clarifies not made a decision yet on proposed leisure centre GP surgery as no discussions have taken place yet

7:20pm

Tempers are fraying here as residents say NHS is not listening to them and calls for other doctor to move in.

Mr Coleman says six to nine months process and not possible

7:19pm

Emotional speech from women who says first attempt to get to Orford Park took her four hours on the bus including walking for an hour when she was sick and waiting for bus with no bus shelter 

7:17pm

Heated argument as Mr Coleman says majority of patients haven't moved to other practices.

angry cries from residents who yell that's because there is no where else for them to go

7:06pm

Coleman confirms there was no breach of contract and he agrees it's very frustrating. 

He says problem NHS inherited and contracts are being renegotiated as part of primary care review

7:04pm

Buzz phrase of the night? Glenn Coleman saying 'I agree' following each speakers' complaint. 

Appears NHS England had no powers regarding this closure.

6:56pm

Clearly switching to another surgery has been large source of frustration for patients.

NHS rep say they have checked with test calls Chapelford is telling patients list is open 

6:53pm

Mr Coleman says plans for surgery at Great Sankey leisure centre is 'not an immediate solution to the problems we face'.

6:50pm

Mr Coleman says to get in touch with NHS England if told lists are closed. He repeats Chapelford list is open 

6:49pm

Passionate speech from mum who says approach is inconsistent and she 'doesn't have time or energy to keep calling practices to find out if lists are open'. 

 

6:45pm

He won't give a deadline but says the programme will be fixed

6:43pm

He says grateful to Westbrook for opening list which has now closed again and Chapelford list still open

6:42pm

Practice not listed on contract so Nhs England had no power. 

He says not happy with situation and engaged with practices to open list for patients

6:39pm

Cries of why not as Mr Coleman says answer is no to services being provided at Sankey Medical Centre

6:37pm

Clr Hitesh Patel wants to know who is going to protect residents and stop other practices from moving 'just because they don't want to pay the rent'

6:35pm

Loud round of applause after he speaks. Think everyone here is in agreement

6:34pm

First Great Sankey resident said other practices are full and a number of residents rely on Sankey practice. 

He says it's a let down in 'mildest of terms' and no discussion with residents is unacceptable.

he calls for practice to open in same area

6:32pm

And now it's question time

6:28pm

Residents at the meeting will soon get the chance to have their say but in the meantime post your comments below or send us a tweet

6:27pm

6:04pm Mon 28 Apr 14

PageA says

What's the point of having a brand new medical centre if people stick with their own doctor? Best way to make it look like a success when it opens is to get rid of what's there now and build demand for the new service by making people travel to Orford for couple of years. I hope we keep a close eye on the residents of Great Sankey and the impact this chess game has on their health. It's an abomination!

6:22pm

Simon Redfearn, GP, is next up with presentation regarding funding for new 'primary care home' scheme which has been previously reported by the Warrington Guardian

6:18pm

Many Sankey patients who did not want to move to Orford have moved to Chapelford and Mr Coleman says reviews are ongoing to find out what residents want

6:17pm

Glenn Coleman is currently speaking about issues regarding access to surgeries in the CCA partnership including Chapelford, Appleton and Culcheth. 

He says they are expecting services to continue to improve after caretaker practice came into steady ship

6:14pm

Residents will have the opportunity to ask questions later...think there's going to be a lot!

6:10pm

She also apologises over letter saying they could take number 17 bus and adds they were trying to get out as much information as quickly as possible as original letter from surgery was not viewed to be satisfactory 

6:07pm

Nhs England rep says first they heard of closure was information from pharmacy. 

She adds they were 'totally taken by surprise'.

6:05pm

Great Sankey residents fill the council chamber.

Warrington Guardian:

6:02pm

And we're off. Only a handful of chairs left.

few introductions first and then we'll get started

5:58pm

Lots of Great Sankey residents here at the meeting. All very concerned about the closure of Sankey Medical Centre and the future

5:43pm

Staff at neighbouring pharmacy Medicx claimed many residents were in tears after hearing the news Sankey Medical Centre was closing and they were being transferred to Orford Jubilee Park Health Centre, 4.5 miles away, in February this year. 

Warrington Guardian: Pharmacy bosses hopefully of Sankey Medical Centre resolution

5:37pm

Let us know if you will be attending the meeting this evening to ask a question and get involved posting your comments below or using #SankeySurgery

5:36pm

Evening all and welcome to tonight's live blog following the special scrutiny committee meeting into the closure of Sankey Medical Centre. 

Residents will hear from representatives from NHS England, Cheshire, Warrington and Wirral area team on the move as well as Glenn Coleman, head of primary care, explaining what steps are being taken regarding the future of Sankey Medical Centre and Chapelford health centre.  

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6:04pm Mon 28 Apr 14

PageA says...

What's the point of having a brand new medical centre if people stick with their own doctor? Best way to make it look like a success when it opens is to get rid of what's there now and build demand for the new service by making people travel to Orford for couple of years. I hope we keep a close eye on the residents of Great Sankey and the impact this chess game has on their health. It's an abomination!
What's the point of having a brand new medical centre if people stick with their own doctor? Best way to make it look like a success when it opens is to get rid of what's there now and build demand for the new service by making people travel to Orford for couple of years. I hope we keep a close eye on the residents of Great Sankey and the impact this chess game has on their health. It's an abomination! PageA
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7:46pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Karlar says...

PageA wrote:
What's the point of having a brand new medical centre if people stick with their own doctor? Best way to make it look like a success when it opens is to get rid of what's there now and build demand for the new service by making people travel to Orford for couple of years. I hope we keep a close eye on the residents of Great Sankey and the impact this chess game has on their health. It's an abomination!
Who is the NHS for? Who is it supposed to serve managers or patients? It makes you wonder whether those managing the service really understand what they are doing or are up to the job. There is certainly a complete lack of official empathy.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: What's the point of having a brand new medical centre if people stick with their own doctor? Best way to make it look like a success when it opens is to get rid of what's there now and build demand for the new service by making people travel to Orford for couple of years. I hope we keep a close eye on the residents of Great Sankey and the impact this chess game has on their health. It's an abomination![/p][/quote]Who is the NHS for? Who is it supposed to serve managers or patients? It makes you wonder whether those managing the service really understand what they are doing or are up to the job. There is certainly a complete lack of official empathy. Karlar
  • Score: 1

10:10am Tue 29 Apr 14

Maveric says...

Hope something comes from this meeting (which I attended). From what I could see NHS Warrington were quite happy to do nothing and let all the patient from Sankey Medical Centre move to other practices. No effort was made to fill this void in Sankey.
Hope something comes from this meeting (which I attended). From what I could see NHS Warrington were quite happy to do nothing and let all the patient from Sankey Medical Centre move to other practices. No effort was made to fill this void in Sankey. Maveric
  • Score: 0

10:20am Tue 29 Apr 14

PageA says...

Maveric wrote:
Hope something comes from this meeting (which I attended). From what I could see NHS Warrington were quite happy to do nothing and let all the patient from Sankey Medical Centre move to other practices. No effort was made to fill this void in Sankey.
My opinion is that you've all been seriously let down. No one has thought about the effect on your health just about the shiny new success story they'll be able to take the credit for down the line.
[quote][p][bold]Maveric[/bold] wrote: Hope something comes from this meeting (which I attended). From what I could see NHS Warrington were quite happy to do nothing and let all the patient from Sankey Medical Centre move to other practices. No effort was made to fill this void in Sankey.[/p][/quote]My opinion is that you've all been seriously let down. No one has thought about the effect on your health just about the shiny new success story they'll be able to take the credit for down the line. PageA
  • Score: 1

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