Warrington councillors call on Government to cut tolls on Mersey crossing

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COUNCILLORS have reiterated their opposition to tolls on the Mersey Crossings.


A full council meeting voted unanimously in favour of a motion put forward by Clr Brian Axcell (LD - Appleton) calling on the tolls to be removed from any future crossings.


Clr Brian Axcell told a full council meeting on Monday: “Modelling studies suggested that for a toll of £1.40, fewer vehicles would use old and new bridges combined than are currently using the Runcorn Bridge.


“In other words, more than £400 million was being spent to accommodate less traffic.


“The costs have risen to more than £600 million and the latest figure for the toll is £2. People will want to avoid a payment of £4 for a return journey and instead divert through Warrington.”


Lib Dem leader Clr Ian Marks (LD - Lymm) added: “Businesses were asked what are the disadvantages to being based in Warrington and nearly a quarter stated congestion. Extra congestion could have a real detrimental effect on those businesses.”


But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.”


Conservative leader Clr Paul Kennedy (CON- Hatton, Stretton and Walton) said: “There is a General Election coming up in the next year - common sense might prevail.

“The existing crossing has already been paid out of public taxes and now it will be tolled. Hard pressed motorists will be made to pay for it again.”


Council leader Clr Terry O’Neill (LAB - Burtonwood and Winwick) added he was confused the Lib Dems were questioning a memorandum of understanding which was signed by the previous Lib Dem/Conservative administration.


Clr O’Neill said: “I am a bit perplexed you have signed the memorandum of understanding and now you’re questioning what is said in it.


“We are fighting to remove the tolls. We will continue to lobby whatever government is in power to remove the tolls.”


The motion also calls on more pressure to be put on Halton Council to agree to measures to mitigate any future traffic problems.

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11:58am Tue 25 Mar 14

Penketh Pony says...

It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work!
It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work! Penketh Pony
  • Score: 4

12:06pm Tue 25 Mar 14

chrislee1275@aol.com says...

The £2.00 toll for cars is only the thin edge of the wedge so to speak. The real crunch comes when they announce the toll for large commercial vehicles.
This is what will really hurt Warrington. If they heavy vehicles divert through Warrington, as seems highly likely, then the ensuing traffic problems including noise, pollution and congestion will be crippling to our town. Additionally the added wear and tear to the towns roads will increase our highway costs.
We will get no economic benefit from all this as the traffic will simply be travelling through Warrington.
Don't forget the planning permission for the bridges allow the tolls to increase above the rate of inflation year on year so the problem will only get worse.
All this was covered by the submission made by Great Sankey Parish Council to the public enquiry so it has been in the public arena for several years.
The £2.00 toll for cars is only the thin edge of the wedge so to speak. The real crunch comes when they announce the toll for large commercial vehicles. This is what will really hurt Warrington. If they heavy vehicles divert through Warrington, as seems highly likely, then the ensuing traffic problems including noise, pollution and congestion will be crippling to our town. Additionally the added wear and tear to the towns roads will increase our highway costs. We will get no economic benefit from all this as the traffic will simply be travelling through Warrington. Don't forget the planning permission for the bridges allow the tolls to increase above the rate of inflation year on year so the problem will only get worse. All this was covered by the submission made by Great Sankey Parish Council to the public enquiry so it has been in the public arena for several years. chrislee1275@aol.com
  • Score: 6

12:10pm Tue 25 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Penketh Pony wrote:
It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work!
Shocking!
[quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work![/p][/quote]Shocking! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 6

12:15pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Penketh Pony says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Penketh Pony wrote:
It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work!
Shocking!
I'm glad you concur.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work![/p][/quote]Shocking![/p][/quote]I'm glad you concur. Penketh Pony
  • Score: 5

12:30pm Tue 25 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Penketh Pony wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Penketh Pony wrote:
It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work!
Shocking!
I'm glad you concur.
Well hopefully the Government will see sense and there will be no toll. £100 a month could be better spent elsewhere in your household I'm sure!
[quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: It's going to cost me an extra £100 a month to get to work![/p][/quote]Shocking![/p][/quote]I'm glad you concur.[/p][/quote]Well hopefully the Government will see sense and there will be no toll. £100 a month could be better spent elsewhere in your household I'm sure! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 7

12:41pm Tue 25 Mar 14

grey_man says...

Is this the same Cllr Linda Dirir talking about congestion who pushed through a plan to slow down the traffic across Warrington so that cars spend longer on the roads with a 20mph speed limit after her own pilot studies showed her achieved nothing in terms of road safety and at a cost of £750,000 (plus?)

Can't be,
Is this the same Cllr Linda Dirir talking about congestion who pushed through a plan to slow down the traffic across Warrington so that cars spend longer on the roads with a 20mph speed limit after her own pilot studies showed her achieved nothing in terms of road safety and at a cost of £750,000 (plus?) Can't be, grey_man
  • Score: 11

4:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

itme says...

The council's policy of not repairing potholes has achieved the desired effect of slowing traffic down . Meeting lane Penketh is like a Hiroshima landscape.However the £750,000 20mph signs are beautiful and shiny...............
.......and ignored.
The council's policy of not repairing potholes has achieved the desired effect of slowing traffic down . Meeting lane Penketh is like a Hiroshima landscape.However the £750,000 20mph signs are beautiful and shiny............... .......and ignored. itme
  • Score: 9

8:22pm Tue 25 Mar 14

old-codger says...

grey_man wrote:
Is this the same Cllr Linda Dirir talking about congestion who pushed through a plan to slow down the traffic across Warrington so that cars spend longer on the roads with a 20mph speed limit after her own pilot studies showed her achieved nothing in terms of road safety and at a cost of £750,000 (plus?)

Can't be,
But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.”

It is the same one grey_man , The reply she gives above shows once again her contempt for the motorist and the costs incurred by drivers in this town. All she does is spit venom at them with her vendetta. Now wait and see how long before WG remove my comments.
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: Is this the same Cllr Linda Dirir talking about congestion who pushed through a plan to slow down the traffic across Warrington so that cars spend longer on the roads with a 20mph speed limit after her own pilot studies showed her achieved nothing in terms of road safety and at a cost of £750,000 (plus?) Can't be,[/p][/quote]But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.” It is the same one grey_man , The reply she gives above shows once again her contempt for the motorist and the costs incurred by drivers in this town. All she does is spit venom at them with her vendetta. Now wait and see how long before WG remove my comments. old-codger
  • Score: 6

9:21pm Tue 25 Mar 14

fedster says...

But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.”


when was the last time anyone spent more than 5 minutes passing through penketh in rush hour.
But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.” when was the last time anyone spent more than 5 minutes passing through penketh in rush hour. fedster
  • Score: 3

6:38am Wed 26 Mar 14

grey_man says...

old-codger wrote:
grey_man wrote:
Is this the same Cllr Linda Dirir talking about congestion who pushed through a plan to slow down the traffic across Warrington so that cars spend longer on the roads with a 20mph speed limit after her own pilot studies showed her achieved nothing in terms of road safety and at a cost of £750,000 (plus?)

Can't be,
But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.”

It is the same one grey_man , The reply she gives above shows once again her contempt for the motorist and the costs incurred by drivers in this town. All she does is spit venom at them with her vendetta. Now wait and see how long before WG remove my comments.
I think her plan might be to make it so difficult to travel by car that everybody starts to use bikes, Because that always works everywhere. They call it modal shift, but I think they might have added an extraneous 'f'
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: Is this the same Cllr Linda Dirir talking about congestion who pushed through a plan to slow down the traffic across Warrington so that cars spend longer on the roads with a 20mph speed limit after her own pilot studies showed her achieved nothing in terms of road safety and at a cost of £750,000 (plus?) Can't be,[/p][/quote]But Clr Linda Dirir (LAB - Penketh and Cuerdley) replied: “Congestion is the price of prosperity. Warrington is a prosperous town.” It is the same one grey_man , The reply she gives above shows once again her contempt for the motorist and the costs incurred by drivers in this town. All she does is spit venom at them with her vendetta. Now wait and see how long before WG remove my comments.[/p][/quote]I think her plan might be to make it so difficult to travel by car that everybody starts to use bikes, Because that always works everywhere. They call it modal shift, but I think they might have added an extraneous 'f' grey_man
  • Score: 3

6:42am Wed 26 Mar 14

grey_man says...

...and forgot to add, what a prosperous town Warrington will look to Councillor Dirir when it's gridlocked with lorries who don't want to pay the toll. It'll be just like Harpenden.
...and forgot to add, what a prosperous town Warrington will look to Councillor Dirir when it's gridlocked with lorries who don't want to pay the toll. It'll be just like Harpenden. grey_man
  • Score: 5

6:34pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Vince Clark says...

Please join our campaign against the Tolls. The Web site is Halton Against Tolls.
See the 38 Degrees petition and spread the word around the country as this will affect all drivers and businesses.
Please join our campaign against the Tolls. The Web site is Halton Against Tolls. See the 38 Degrees petition and spread the word around the country as this will affect all drivers and businesses. Vince Clark
  • Score: 3

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