Schools in Warrington could close next week for teacher strike

Warrington Guardian: Schools in Warrington could close next week for teacher strike Schools in Warrington could close next week for teacher strike

SCHOOLS across Warrington could be forced to close for the day after the Nation Union of teachers confirmed a walkout will go ahead on Wednesday.

Teachers across the country will strike over an ongoing dispute over pay, pensions and working conditions.

It is not clear how many teachers in Warrington, who are NUT members, will join the strike or if any schools will face disruption because of the industrial action.

The largest teaching union in the UK, NASUWT, have decided not to join their colleagues on the strike despite joining forces last autumn to hold two regional strikes.

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9:39am Wed 19 Mar 14

Brick Bazooka says...

Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning. Brick Bazooka
  • Score: 13

9:47am Wed 19 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Maybe they should concentrate more on sorting all these Ofsted reports out before asking for more money for a job they clearly don't do!!
Still Grumpy
Maybe they should concentrate more on sorting all these Ofsted reports out before asking for more money for a job they clearly don't do!! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 7

10:41am Wed 19 Mar 14

Nick Tessla says...

Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
[quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off. Nick Tessla
  • Score: -5

12:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

HappyMisery says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.[/p][/quote]Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards. HappyMisery
  • Score: 19

12:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
[quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward. Uncoded
  • Score: -4

12:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

MikeJT says...

"It is not clear how many teachers in Warrington, who are NUT members, will join the strike or if any schools will face disruption because of the industrial action." ....................
............ Not clear? Many school have already told parents about disruption and closures.
"It is not clear how many teachers in Warrington, who are NUT members, will join the strike or if any schools will face disruption because of the industrial action." .................... ............ Not clear? Many school have already told parents about disruption and closures. MikeJT
  • Score: 12

3:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hoppy16 says...

I agree with Brick Bazooka

I have no sympathy for the teachers. Having two in Junior school, I have to take a days holiday or unpaid leave to cover this day. I do not get 6 weeks holiday a year, and as for the comment 'I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.' That is their chosen profession, they made the decision to do that job. Personally, I have not a a pay rise for 3 years, I consider myself lucky to have a job. I think they should consider they impact there actions are having on normal working families and be grateful for what they have.
I agree with Brick Bazooka I have no sympathy for the teachers. Having two in Junior school, I have to take a days holiday or unpaid leave to cover this day. I do not get 6 weeks holiday a year, and as for the comment 'I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.' That is their chosen profession, they made the decision to do that job. Personally, I have not a a pay rise for 3 years, I consider myself lucky to have a job. I think they should consider they impact there actions are having on normal working families and be grateful for what they have. Hoppy16
  • Score: 11

4:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

Hoppy16 wrote:
I agree with Brick Bazooka

I have no sympathy for the teachers. Having two in Junior school, I have to take a days holiday or unpaid leave to cover this day. I do not get 6 weeks holiday a year, and as for the comment 'I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.' That is their chosen profession, they made the decision to do that job. Personally, I have not a a pay rise for 3 years, I consider myself lucky to have a job. I think they should consider they impact there actions are having on normal working families and be grateful for what they have.
*their actions

You say you haven't had a pay rise for 3 years and you don't get 6 weeks holidays. Maybe you should become a teacher.

You should cherish the extra day you get to spend with your children on strike day, and maybe even do something educational. After all, the education children get from their family is equally as important than what learn at school.
[quote][p][bold]Hoppy16[/bold] wrote: I agree with Brick Bazooka I have no sympathy for the teachers. Having two in Junior school, I have to take a days holiday or unpaid leave to cover this day. I do not get 6 weeks holiday a year, and as for the comment 'I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.' That is their chosen profession, they made the decision to do that job. Personally, I have not a a pay rise for 3 years, I consider myself lucky to have a job. I think they should consider they impact there actions are having on normal working families and be grateful for what they have.[/p][/quote]*their actions You say you haven't had a pay rise for 3 years and you don't get 6 weeks holidays. Maybe you should become a teacher. You should cherish the extra day you get to spend with your children on strike day, and maybe even do something educational. After all, the education children get from their family is equally as important than what learn at school. Uncoded
  • Score: -10

5:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 14

5:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo. Uncoded
  • Score: -7

10:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Brick Bazooka says...

Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do. Brick Bazooka
  • Score: 8

8:09am Thu 20 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
[quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better. Uncoded
  • Score: 5

8:41am Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -4

9:49am Thu 20 Mar 14

Brick Bazooka says...

Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
You speak utter tripe.....

"How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child"

Let's set the scenario....

I've 5 days holiday left. (Enough to book a week off, perhaps take the kids away for the week on a memorable holiday).

Now I lose 1 days holiday due to teachers striking.

According to you that 1 day taking the kids to the museum or zoo will be much better than taking them on holiday for a week which I no longer can do with only 4 days holiday remaining.
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]You speak utter tripe..... "How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child" Let's set the scenario.... I've 5 days holiday left. (Enough to book a week off, perhaps take the kids away for the week on a memorable holiday). Now I lose 1 days holiday due to teachers striking. According to you that 1 day taking the kids to the museum or zoo will be much better than taking them on holiday for a week which I no longer can do with only 4 days holiday remaining. Brick Bazooka
  • Score: -4

10:19am Thu 20 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
Education is equally as important as the aforementioned services.
Therefore, teachers are just as important as doctors and nurses.
If it wasn't for teachers there would be no doctors and nurses.

I always save a few of my 35 days holidays so that I can take a day off to cover such possibilities as strikes or an essential car repair etc.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]Education is equally as important as the aforementioned services. Therefore, teachers are just as important as doctors and nurses. If it wasn't for teachers there would be no doctors and nurses. I always save a few of my 35 days holidays so that I can take a day off to cover such possibilities as strikes or an essential car repair etc. Uncoded
  • Score: 4

12:07pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
Education is equally as important as the aforementioned services.
Therefore, teachers are just as important as doctors and nurses.
If it wasn't for teachers there would be no doctors and nurses.

I always save a few of my 35 days holidays so that I can take a day off to cover such possibilities as strikes or an essential car repair etc.
Has Warrington gone mad or something?
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]Education is equally as important as the aforementioned services. Therefore, teachers are just as important as doctors and nurses. If it wasn't for teachers there would be no doctors and nurses. I always save a few of my 35 days holidays so that I can take a day off to cover such possibilities as strikes or an essential car repair etc.[/p][/quote]Has Warrington gone mad or something? GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Thu 20 Mar 14

happytee39 says...

Get a grip!! Its 21 years ago today that tragedy happened in this town, a day that I personally won't forget...it puts things into perspective for me.
Get a grip!! Its 21 years ago today that tragedy happened in this town, a day that I personally won't forget...it puts things into perspective for me. happytee39
  • Score: -3

1:40pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

happytee39 wrote:
Get a grip!! Its 21 years ago today that tragedy happened in this town, a day that I personally won't forget...it puts things into perspective for me.
WTF you ranting at did you post on the wrong article or something?
[quote][p][bold]happytee39[/bold] wrote: Get a grip!! Its 21 years ago today that tragedy happened in this town, a day that I personally won't forget...it puts things into perspective for me.[/p][/quote]WTF you ranting at did you post on the wrong article or something? GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

3:05pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

HappyMisery wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.
Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.
[quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.[/p][/quote]Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.[/p][/quote]Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 4

3:13pm Thu 20 Mar 14

phil wa1 says...

Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!! phil wa1
  • Score: -8

3:19pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

happytee39 wrote:
Get a grip!! Its 21 years ago today that tragedy happened in this town, a day that I personally won't forget...it puts things into perspective for me.
I understand what you're saying. Take time to spend as much time with your children as you can, while you can.

Some parents seem to be treating their children as chattels not as human beings to be nurtured.
[quote][p][bold]happytee39[/bold] wrote: Get a grip!! Its 21 years ago today that tragedy happened in this town, a day that I personally won't forget...it puts things into perspective for me.[/p][/quote]I understand what you're saying. Take time to spend as much time with your children as you can, while you can. Some parents seem to be treating their children as chattels not as human beings to be nurtured. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 2

3:25pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
HappyMisery wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.
Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.
Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.[/p][/quote]Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.[/p][/quote]Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -5

3:25pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.
[quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 4

3:26pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

3:27pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
[quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -13

3:28pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Well stated Uncoded, I am in unconditional agreement with all the comments you have offered.
[quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Well stated Uncoded, I am in unconditional agreement with all the comments you have offered. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 3

3:29pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -3

3:35pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.
Hold the country, and the honest working people, to ransom. You will be quoting Dick Turpin next, get with the times!
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.[/p][/quote]Hold the country, and the honest working people, to ransom. You will be quoting Dick Turpin next, get with the times! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

3:37pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -3

3:38pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

3:42pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 1

3:46pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.
Hold the country, and the honest working people, to ransom. You will be quoting Dick Turpin next, get with the times!
Well, you are disposing of the valuable gift of logic again in your flippant comments. Spare a modicum of thought then and consider that teachers are also honest working people! Sometimes we just have to acknowledge that there are some lessons to be learnt from historical events and achievements additionally I will also also the failures. How else would we progress and adapt to change?
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.[/p][/quote]Hold the country, and the honest working people, to ransom. You will be quoting Dick Turpin next, get with the times![/p][/quote]Well, you are disposing of the valuable gift of logic again in your flippant comments. Spare a modicum of thought then and consider that teachers are also honest working people! Sometimes we just have to acknowledge that there are some lessons to be learnt from historical events and achievements additionally I will also also the failures. How else would we progress and adapt to change? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 3

3:48pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy!
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday![/p][/quote]Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy! SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 1

3:56pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
HappyMisery wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.
Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.
Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.
I dispute your evidence for such a comments as this.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.[/p][/quote]Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.[/p][/quote]Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.[/p][/quote]I dispute your evidence for such a comments as this. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 0

4:01pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.
Hold the country, and the honest working people, to ransom. You will be quoting Dick Turpin next, get with the times!
Well, you are disposing of the valuable gift of logic again in your flippant comments. Spare a modicum of thought then and consider that teachers are also honest working people! Sometimes we just have to acknowledge that there are some lessons to be learnt from historical events and achievements additionally I will also also the failures. How else would we progress and adapt to change?
Not flippant remarks at all just the truth, in my opinion, and not typed down in Solicitor form. Big word's don't make you intelligent just makes your comment's look flamboyant and irrelevant. When teachers fail at their duty's, don't get disciplined or sanctioned but then ask for more money I feel that is totally disgusting and a slap in the face of every other working person. People have a genuine case to be aggrieved if they are losing a days holiday/pay etc to cover this ransom that teachers have bestowed on them.
Utter disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]You don't seem t have any respect for such courageous people as the Tolpuddle Martyrs or their modern equivalent. Workers rights also benefit all workers and in the end the national economy in our democratic political system, and example to other Countries and United States.[/p][/quote]Hold the country, and the honest working people, to ransom. You will be quoting Dick Turpin next, get with the times![/p][/quote]Well, you are disposing of the valuable gift of logic again in your flippant comments. Spare a modicum of thought then and consider that teachers are also honest working people! Sometimes we just have to acknowledge that there are some lessons to be learnt from historical events and achievements additionally I will also also the failures. How else would we progress and adapt to change?[/p][/quote]Not flippant remarks at all just the truth, in my opinion, and not typed down in Solicitor form. Big word's don't make you intelligent just makes your comment's look flamboyant and irrelevant. When teachers fail at their duty's, don't get disciplined or sanctioned but then ask for more money I feel that is totally disgusting and a slap in the face of every other working person. People have a genuine case to be aggrieved if they are losing a days holiday/pay etc to cover this ransom that teachers have bestowed on them. Utter disgrace. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 2

4:03pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
HappyMisery wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.
Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.
Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.
I dispute your evidence for such a comments as this.
Google it then
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.[/p][/quote]Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.[/p][/quote]Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.[/p][/quote]I dispute your evidence for such a comments as this.[/p][/quote]Google it then GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -3

4:03pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy!
Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday![/p][/quote]Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy![/p][/quote]Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -3

4:07pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
HappyMisery wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Not logical to connect the two things

The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees

Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.
Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.
Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.
Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.
I dispute your evidence for such a comments as this.
Google it then
That is all the evidence you have. 1/10 Must do better. You must have seen that in your school work in the past!
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HappyMisery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Not logical to connect the two things The "they" who are school management who believe kids need to be in school and the "they" who are school employees Having said that, the second "they" need to get their strike day in soon - before their fortnight off.[/p][/quote]Its quite logical to connect the two, when schools are pushing their targets at parents, stating "authorised" and "unauthorised" absences, however, when its for industrial action, the schools don't use agency or non union members of staff, but choose to close. This is why its considered double standards.[/p][/quote]Now take a look at it from the teachers perspective , before jumping to unconnected arguments and misconceptions. The education system has obviously changed since you were in such an environment. How the teachers currently work with large amounts of children sometimes defies all logic from the casual and flippant observer. The teachers very rarely switch off from their school duties, the majority are dedicated to serving the communities that they work in and often live in. Successive government majorities of various hues have for some time now wreaked havoc upon the National Education system and have imposed an impending crisis upon them where they suffer, yes suffer and as a result so do the children in that cohort of pupils. Teachers in my opinion deserve much more respect and support. I agree entirely with the planned action and the clear message it gives to Government, the paymaster for this most underrated, and vocational profession.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish again you put teachers on a pedestal, one that in my opinion, is not deserved! They get paid handsomely and maybe if they actually earned their pay we wouldn't be constantly slated by Ofsted in many schools across Warrington. I saw on the news recently that we are bringing Chinese teachers over to educate our teachers on how to teach such subjects as maths better! Maybe we should just employ them and get rid of the NUT supporting idiots who just basically want money for nothing.[/p][/quote]I dispute your evidence for such a comments as this.[/p][/quote]Google it then[/p][/quote]That is all the evidence you have. 1/10 Must do better. You must have seen that in your school work in the past! SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 1

4:10pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy!
Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.
No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday![/p][/quote]Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy![/p][/quote]Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.[/p][/quote]No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 6

4:10pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven.
And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years!
Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.[/p][/quote]"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven. And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years! Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -2

4:12pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy!
Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.
No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history
Now that would even put a glass eye to sleep Sir.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday![/p][/quote]Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy![/p][/quote]Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.[/p][/quote]No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history[/p][/quote]Now that would even put a glass eye to sleep Sir. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -2

4:17pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven.
And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years!
Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.
To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.[/p][/quote]"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven. And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years! Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.[/p][/quote]To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy!
Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.
No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history
Now that would even put a glass eye to sleep Sir.
Again you are displaying illogical thought and it diminishes your postulations.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday![/p][/quote]Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy![/p][/quote]Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.[/p][/quote]No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history[/p][/quote]Now that would even put a glass eye to sleep Sir.[/p][/quote]Again you are displaying illogical thought and it diminishes your postulations. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven.
And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years!
Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.
To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.
No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes.

"You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet".

Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.[/p][/quote]"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven. And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years! Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.[/p][/quote]To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.[/p][/quote]No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes. "You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet". Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -5

6:43pm Thu 20 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
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SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
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SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
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GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Uncoded wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
Teachers and their double standards!

It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon.

Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.
Very ill-informed comment.
It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday.

Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy.
To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.
Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.
How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience.
Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.
Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is.

OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year.

Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.
They lose a days pay when they strike.
How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child.
In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.
How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe!
They are all paid by the UK Government.
So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same!
Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.
Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday!
Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy!
Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.
No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history
Now that would even put a glass eye to sleep Sir.
Again you are displaying illogical thought and it diminishes your postulations.
"Again you are displaying illogical thought and it diminishes your postulations".
Ok Spock yet again you use illogical "postulations" to try and scare me off with your rather boring knowledge of stupidly long words to try and prove your point. Are you Spock or do you have a job on Countdown? Either way you are still boring me intellectually.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncoded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: Teachers and their double standards! It's ok for them to strike and disrupt a child's education, yet to take your child out of school for a holiday is frowned upon. Ultimately, they should be grateful they have a job and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Very ill-informed comment. It's not the teachers that have made the rules regarding taking children out of school for a holiday. Being a teacher these days is a thankless task, one that I wouldn't fancy. To be honest, I think they deserve their holidays. They work long hours for very little reward.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish have you even read recent Ofsted reports they don't even do their jobs correctly even with the quite handsome salary that they already receive. And are they held accountable or disciplined like any other business employee no. They are just allowed to carry on regardless. And why should people have to take emergency holiday's off to look after their children while they strike? If you only get 20 days holiday (unless your a teacher) that's 1 day short of a week which could be used to go away on holiday. "Being a teacher is a thankless task" are you serious, nurses, doctors, firefighters, guy in my local shop, bin men, mechanic, plumber, tiler, plasterer, gardener, van driver, truck driver, call centre staff, and Noddy all thankless tasks but you get paid and get on with it.[/p][/quote]How can spending a day with your child be seen as an inconvenience. Enjoy the day with them. Take them to a museum or the zoo.[/p][/quote]Spending time with your child isn't an inconvenience. Losing 1 days paid holiday is. OR losing 1 days pay if you've already used your quota for the year. Do the teachers get penalised 1 days holiday for every strike day they take. They d*mn well should do.[/p][/quote]They lose a days pay when they strike. How can spending a day with your child be classed as 'losing a days holiday'. You don't 'lose' anything, you 'gain' a day with your child. In general I am against striking, but in this case I fully support teachers. Their job is becoming increasingly more difficult for many reasons. I think that they, along with doctors and nurses and members of the emergency services deserve better.[/p][/quote]How you can even put a teacher in the same category as doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services begs believe![/p][/quote]They are all paid by the UK Government.[/p][/quote]So is a bin man and the Prime Minister but I wouldn't class them as the same![/p][/quote]Shame on you then as they are both needed in order stop anarchy from prevailing in our beloved UK.[/p][/quote]Such anarchy as loads of kids running round the streets followed by grandparents chasing them on Wednesday![/p][/quote]Argh, I see that you have a misunderstanding of anarchy![/p][/quote]Not at all, but I see you have a misunderstanding.[/p][/quote]No, not at all, just an extensive past and current knowledge of education policy and political history[/p][/quote]Now that would even put a glass eye to sleep Sir.[/p][/quote]Again you are displaying illogical thought and it diminishes your postulations.[/p][/quote]"Again you are displaying illogical thought and it diminishes your postulations". Ok Spock yet again you use illogical "postulations" to try and scare me off with your rather boring knowledge of stupidly long words to try and prove your point. Are you Spock or do you have a job on Countdown? Either way you are still boring me intellectually. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -6

6:50pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

*Scargill

Unfortunately teachers jobs are made even harder theses days by constantly having to hit pointless targets and having to work through needless paperwork.
They deserve more recognition for all of their hard work.
It annoys me when people say that teachers get too many holidays. Any educated person knows that teachers spend a large portion of their 'holidays' actually working in order to educate the children of ungrateful parents.
*Scargill Unfortunately teachers jobs are made even harder theses days by constantly having to hit pointless targets and having to work through needless paperwork. They deserve more recognition for all of their hard work. It annoys me when people say that teachers get too many holidays. Any educated person knows that teachers spend a large portion of their 'holidays' actually working in order to educate the children of ungrateful parents. Uncoded
  • Score: 2

6:56pm Thu 20 Mar 14

local man says...

Anyone needing the day off could always take a days emergency carer leave to save their holidays, HR staff take em when ever they need an extra day.

On the teaching front I have been into a school to help out with sport and I have to say I would last about a week before I got violent with the little B*******. Some were ok, most were disinterested and hard to motivate and some were utter morons, badly behaved and actively disruptive. When you consider this was a voluntary activity after school it just makes you wonder why they come along. Teachers deserve every penny, they have to try and make up for the lack of discipline and nurturing that parents and society should be providing. But hey, teachers are the next best target to bankers bonuses so fill your boots, im sure you could all do better.
Anyone needing the day off could always take a days emergency carer leave to save their holidays, HR staff take em when ever they need an extra day. On the teaching front I have been into a school to help out with sport and I have to say I would last about a week before I got violent with the little B*******. Some were ok, most were disinterested and hard to motivate and some were utter morons, badly behaved and actively disruptive. When you consider this was a voluntary activity after school it just makes you wonder why they come along. Teachers deserve every penny, they have to try and make up for the lack of discipline and nurturing that parents and society should be providing. But hey, teachers are the next best target to bankers bonuses so fill your boots, im sure you could all do better. local man
  • Score: 8

6:59pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

local man wrote:
Anyone needing the day off could always take a days emergency carer leave to save their holidays, HR staff take em when ever they need an extra day.

On the teaching front I have been into a school to help out with sport and I have to say I would last about a week before I got violent with the little B*******. Some were ok, most were disinterested and hard to motivate and some were utter morons, badly behaved and actively disruptive. When you consider this was a voluntary activity after school it just makes you wonder why they come along. Teachers deserve every penny, they have to try and make up for the lack of discipline and nurturing that parents and society should be providing. But hey, teachers are the next best target to bankers bonuses so fill your boots, im sure you could all do better.
Well said. Totally agree.
[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote: Anyone needing the day off could always take a days emergency carer leave to save their holidays, HR staff take em when ever they need an extra day. On the teaching front I have been into a school to help out with sport and I have to say I would last about a week before I got violent with the little B*******. Some were ok, most were disinterested and hard to motivate and some were utter morons, badly behaved and actively disruptive. When you consider this was a voluntary activity after school it just makes you wonder why they come along. Teachers deserve every penny, they have to try and make up for the lack of discipline and nurturing that parents and society should be providing. But hey, teachers are the next best target to bankers bonuses so fill your boots, im sure you could all do better.[/p][/quote]Well said. Totally agree. Uncoded
  • Score: 5

9:05pm Thu 20 Mar 14

mademoiselle_r says...

I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.
I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing. mademoiselle_r
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Brick Bazooka says...

mademoiselle_r wrote:
I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.
Answer me this:

Will;

a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe?

Or

b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon?

Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.
[quote][p][bold]mademoiselle_r[/bold] wrote: I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.[/p][/quote]Answer me this: Will; a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe? Or b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon? Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth. Brick Bazooka
  • Score: 1

7:48am Fri 21 Mar 14

mademoiselle_r says...

Brick Bazooka wrote:
mademoiselle_r wrote:
I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.
Answer me this:

Will;

a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe?

Or

b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon?

Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.
Feet up? I doubt it! Those that have kids will certainly be spending some time with them while juggling doing work from home - lessons don't drop into our laps all done and prepared for us.
Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same. You don't know what the job is like, so keep the incorrect comments to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mademoiselle_r[/bold] wrote: I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.[/p][/quote]Answer me this: Will; a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe? Or b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon? Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.[/p][/quote]Feet up? I doubt it! Those that have kids will certainly be spending some time with them while juggling doing work from home - lessons don't drop into our laps all done and prepared for us. Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same. You don't know what the job is like, so keep the incorrect comments to yourself. mademoiselle_r
  • Score: 5

9:28am Fri 21 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

mademoiselle_r wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
mademoiselle_r wrote:
I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.
Answer me this:

Will;

a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe?

Or

b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon?

Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.
Feet up? I doubt it! Those that have kids will certainly be spending some time with them while juggling doing work from home - lessons don't drop into our laps all done and prepared for us.
Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same. You don't know what the job is like, so keep the incorrect comments to yourself.
"Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same".

Il est clair que vous n'avez pas enseigner à vos élèves le droit de la liberté d'expression. Peut-être vous êtes l'un de ces professeurs de dictateur.

Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]mademoiselle_r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mademoiselle_r[/bold] wrote: I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.[/p][/quote]Answer me this: Will; a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe? Or b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon? Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.[/p][/quote]Feet up? I doubt it! Those that have kids will certainly be spending some time with them while juggling doing work from home - lessons don't drop into our laps all done and prepared for us. Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same. You don't know what the job is like, so keep the incorrect comments to yourself.[/p][/quote]"Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same". Il est clair que vous n'avez pas enseigner à vos élèves le droit de la liberté d'expression. Peut-être vous êtes l'un de ces professeurs de dictateur. Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -2

10:41am Fri 21 Mar 14

Brick Bazooka says...

mademoiselle_r wrote:
Brick Bazooka wrote:
mademoiselle_r wrote:
I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.
Answer me this:

Will;

a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe?

Or

b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon?

Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.
Feet up? I doubt it! Those that have kids will certainly be spending some time with them while juggling doing work from home - lessons don't drop into our laps all done and prepared for us.
Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same. You don't know what the job is like, so keep the incorrect comments to yourself.
Perhaps you are correct to a small degree, however, the moment you choose to strike automatically involves parents and carers.

This gives us every right to pass opinion and comments, right or wrong.
[quote][p][bold]mademoiselle_r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brick Bazooka[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mademoiselle_r[/bold] wrote: I really have the impression that people are using this comment section to moan about how inconvenient this strike will be but have no knowledge about why the teachers are on strike. How ignorant. Yes, I am a teacher so support the strike but it's not because I get another day off a few weeks before the Easter holidays - it's because the government is not making intelligent decisions concerning education in this country ! Michael Gove has refused to sit down with the teachers unions for months to talk about his recent ridiculous decisions that will affect YOUR children. Going on strike may be a pain for parents, but do you realise that teachers aren't paid for that day if they strike ? Yet many still will as they believe in the cause. As for being lazy and overpaid, you obviously do not realise how much work goes into planning, preparing and delivering a lesson. Teachers do not switch off, nor do they leave work at work - they are 100% dedicated to their profession and yes they chose it but for to sacrifice their lives for the good of YOUR children given the hoops they now need to jump through and administrative box ticking. They chose it because it's a passion, it's about sharing knowledge with children so they grow up to be intelligent and socially aware adults who will achieve something with their lives. Parents who moan about the strike must not be wanting the same for their children. One day will not damage your child's education when it is for their benefit in the end - taking them out for days to save money on holidays, isn't the same thing.[/p][/quote]Answer me this: Will; a) ALL striking teachers be stood outside a chosen location protesting on strike days fighting for what they believe? Or b) Will many be at home with their feet up because they're simply jumping on the let's strike bandwagon? Even if you said (a) then we all know you're lying through your back teeth.[/p][/quote]Feet up? I doubt it! Those that have kids will certainly be spending some time with them while juggling doing work from home - lessons don't drop into our laps all done and prepared for us. Things I'm ignorant about and haven't got a clue about, I don't get on a high horse and announce my opinion about. Maybe others should do the same. You don't know what the job is like, so keep the incorrect comments to yourself.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you are correct to a small degree, however, the moment you choose to strike automatically involves parents and carers. This gives us every right to pass opinion and comments, right or wrong. Brick Bazooka
  • Score: 3

6:43pm Fri 21 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven.
And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years!
Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.
To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.
No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes.

"You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet".

Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ
Argh, I am observing one use a sarcastic and intolerant attitude in order to add ridicule and dismissal as your response to my comments. As I have said in the past you know very little about me and you have made assumptions about my age, gender, and my IQ,
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.[/p][/quote]"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven. And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years! Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.[/p][/quote]To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.[/p][/quote]No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes. "You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet". Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ[/p][/quote]Argh, I am observing one use a sarcastic and intolerant attitude in order to add ridicule and dismissal as your response to my comments. As I have said in the past you know very little about me and you have made assumptions about my age, gender, and my IQ, SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 2

9:44am Sat 22 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven.
And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years!
Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.
To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.
No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes.

"You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet".

Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ
Argh, I am observing one use a sarcastic and intolerant attitude in order to add ridicule and dismissal as your response to my comments. As I have said in the past you know very little about me and you have made assumptions about my age, gender, and my IQ,
"To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet".

So what does this comment that you made say of me? limited experience = I must be young then! Limited information = I must have a low IQ, and I believe all I read in the newspaper/internet = so I am not capable of watching documentaries, reading books or studying at Collage/University.
Seems you know little about me!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.[/p][/quote]"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven. And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years! Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.[/p][/quote]To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.[/p][/quote]No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes. "You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet". Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ[/p][/quote]Argh, I am observing one use a sarcastic and intolerant attitude in order to add ridicule and dismissal as your response to my comments. As I have said in the past you know very little about me and you have made assumptions about my age, gender, and my IQ,[/p][/quote]"To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet". So what does this comment that you made say of me? limited experience = I must be young then! Limited information = I must have a low IQ, and I believe all I read in the newspaper/internet = so I am not capable of watching documentaries, reading books or studying at Collage/University. Seems you know little about me! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -2

9:35am Mon 24 Mar 14

Uncoded says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
phil wa1 wrote:
Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!!
Thumbs up.
Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.
Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching!
You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.
"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven.
And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years!
Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.
To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.
No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes.

"You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet".

Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ
Argh, I am observing one use a sarcastic and intolerant attitude in order to add ridicule and dismissal as your response to my comments. As I have said in the past you know very little about me and you have made assumptions about my age, gender, and my IQ,
"To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet".

So what does this comment that you made say of me? limited experience = I must be young then! Limited information = I must have a low IQ, and I believe all I read in the newspaper/internet = so I am not capable of watching documentaries, reading books or studying at Collage/University.
Seems you know little about me!
Still Grumpy
*College

A collage is a form of artwork.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil wa1[/bold] wrote: Anyone who strikes doesn't deserve to have the job in the first place you bunch of absolutey childish time wasting post deserting careless bastards! This isn't the 80s you should be happy to have a job in the first place now do us a favor and just resign you clearly don't enjoy your work so move aside for people who actually have a passion for the education of our youth and will concentrate their energy on that instead of setting this childish example of dealing with problems by spitting your dummies out and dropping your rattle!![/p][/quote]Thumbs up.[/p][/quote]Following the logic of phil wa1's comment then, there would not be any resolvement in the issue, as there would be insufficient teachers available in state schools.[/p][/quote]Well we can import some from China as they actually seem to know what they are actually teaching![/p][/quote]You assumption is somewhat flawed again. Would they actually want to work in the UK on a fulltime basis for the rest of their career? They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice and they will no doubt be pleased to be able to return home, and back to a country and a government that values teachers for their hard work, unlike the UK Government.[/p][/quote]"They have been invited to the UK for our teachers to learn from good practice" lol enough said and point proven. And the fact that Chinese children are years more advanced in school education than our own. Yes years! Yes you do have a misunderstanding and to be honest you are boring me now.[/p][/quote]To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet.[/p][/quote]No I am basing my views on recent information not historical, unlike yourself, who seems to live in the 80's when Unions where prominent but are now obsolete to society and insulting modern society as are you!.Your views are dated get with modern times my friend no one cares about Unions and their policies, ask any young employee if they pay into a Union. Probably would be 10% or even less your a fool living in the wake of Skargill and the likes. "You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet". Not from you! 1 brain cell short of a 1 IQ[/p][/quote]Argh, I am observing one use a sarcastic and intolerant attitude in order to add ridicule and dismissal as your response to my comments. As I have said in the past you know very little about me and you have made assumptions about my age, gender, and my IQ,[/p][/quote]"To be honest with you, I think that you are basing your view on limited experience and information. You are not so naive as to believe all that you read in the newspapers or your gleanings from the internet". So what does this comment that you made say of me? limited experience = I must be young then! Limited information = I must have a low IQ, and I believe all I read in the newspaper/internet = so I am not capable of watching documentaries, reading books or studying at Collage/University. Seems you know little about me! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]*College A collage is a form of artwork. Uncoded
  • Score: 3

6:30pm Mon 24 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
"So what does this comment that you made say of me? limited experience = I must be young then! Limited information = I must have a low IQ, and I believe all I read in the newspaper/internet = so I am not capable of watching documentaries, reading books or studying at Collage/University.
Seems you know little about me!
Still Grumpy"

You are now using the tactic of projecting your thoughts and intentions on me, when this aforesaid comment is entirely of your own compilation and suggestion.
GRUMPY PARENT wrote: "So what does this comment that you made say of me? limited experience = I must be young then! Limited information = I must have a low IQ, and I believe all I read in the newspaper/internet = so I am not capable of watching documentaries, reading books or studying at Collage/University. Seems you know little about me! Still Grumpy" You are now using the tactic of projecting your thoughts and intentions on me, when this aforesaid comment is entirely of your own compilation and suggestion. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 0

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