Owner of tyre wall near to Kingsway Bridge fights council demands

The bales of tyres have been constructed near to the Kingsway bridge

The bales of tyres have been constructed near to the Kingsway bridge

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THE owner of a wall of tyres from Glazebrook is appealing the council’s decision to remove the ‘eyesore’.

Patrick Moran, of Glazebrook Lane, is fighting the council’s demands to remove the bales of used tyres from the land near to the junction on Farrell Street and Kingsway North.

The 46-year-old attended Warrington Magistrates Court today where he argued that the construction does not affect the local amenity.

He also claimed the council did not allow him sufficient time to remove the tyres, which took nine weeks to build.

An appeal date was set for May 21 at Warrington Magistrates Court with Mr Moran expected to represent himself in court. 

The wall of tyres will remain on the land until a decision is made.

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11:22am Wed 5 Mar 14

nextdoor says...

Nine weeks to build?!?!?! They did it in an afternoon/evening!
Nine weeks to build?!?!?! They did it in an afternoon/evening! nextdoor
  • Score: 41

11:43am Wed 5 Mar 14

Amanda Jayne Davies says...

If he likes it so much why doesn't he move it to outside his house. Does anybody in Warrington like it or think its acceptable?
If he likes it so much why doesn't he move it to outside his house. Does anybody in Warrington like it or think its acceptable? Amanda Jayne Davies
  • Score: 52

12:07pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Nick Tessla says...

Boycott of Abba Cabs ?
Boycott of Abba Cabs ? Nick Tessla
  • Score: 51

12:21pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

What a disgrace - it's bad enough the flyposting that goes on - this is just like somone sticking two fingers up at the local community :-(
What a disgrace - it's bad enough the flyposting that goes on - this is just like somone sticking two fingers up at the local community :-( Geoff Settle
  • Score: 38

12:30pm Wed 5 Mar 14

MikeJT says...

Amanda Jayne Davies wrote:
If he likes it so much why doesn't he move it to outside his house. Does anybody in Warrington like it or think its acceptable?
Personally I dont have a problem with it (but think it would look better at one continuous level rather than with the little "turrets". Its not in a residential area and doesn't obstruct the view of any drivers or pedestrians. I would question the claim about 9 weeks to build but I assume this include the time to construct the bales themselves.

I do wonder if the argument would be different if the Kingsway Bridge smash had happened further down and the tyres had stop a vehicle running off the road.
[quote][p][bold]Amanda Jayne Davies[/bold] wrote: If he likes it so much why doesn't he move it to outside his house. Does anybody in Warrington like it or think its acceptable?[/p][/quote]Personally I dont have a problem with it (but think it would look better at one continuous level rather than with the little "turrets". Its not in a residential area and doesn't obstruct the view of any drivers or pedestrians. I would question the claim about 9 weeks to build but I assume this include the time to construct the bales themselves. I do wonder if the argument would be different if the Kingsway Bridge smash had happened further down and the tyres had stop a vehicle running off the road. MikeJT
  • Score: -20

12:30pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Bluejean says...

Nine weeks? Admittedly I only pass there twice a week when I visit my mum who lives on Kingsway, but it appeared between my visits within a few days! The tyres don't go well alongside the Twiggeries nature reserve. It's an eyesore! I see that Mr Moran lives in Glazebrook & doesn't have to look at them every day.
Nine weeks? Admittedly I only pass there twice a week when I visit my mum who lives on Kingsway, but it appeared between my visits within a few days! The tyres don't go well alongside the Twiggeries nature reserve. It's an eyesore! I see that Mr Moran lives in Glazebrook & doesn't have to look at them every day. Bluejean
  • Score: 34

1:04pm Wed 5 Mar 14

MikeJT says...

Is there anybody who has seen the wall previously, who would change their mind knowing that the land behind it is now being cleared and bulldozed? No little oasis of greenery there now.
Is there anybody who has seen the wall previously, who would change their mind knowing that the land behind it is now being cleared and bulldozed? No little oasis of greenery there now. MikeJT
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Wed 5 Mar 14

fedster says...

he is just doing to the council what arpley tip people are doing giving them the finger and saying bring it on wimps


shame they dont have the back bone to go after arpley the same way
he is just doing to the council what arpley tip people are doing giving them the finger and saying bring it on wimps shame they dont have the back bone to go after arpley the same way fedster
  • Score: 10

1:34pm Wed 5 Mar 14

gerrumonside says...

I'm Sorry but The council are to blame here. they owned the land and decided to sell it to anyone that would pay up. It's fit for very little, and if someone was going to pay around £20,000 for that piece of land it is clear they are going to have a go at anything to make money from it.

If the tyre wall goes it will just be replaced by something equally grotesque. The owner is not going to plant trees shrubs and put in a lovely waterfeature for the people of Westy and Howley.

by the way I hope the High speed railway line doesnt keep Mr Moran up too much when it rattles through Glazebrook....!!!
I'm Sorry but The council are to blame here. they owned the land and decided to sell it to anyone that would pay up. It's fit for very little, and if someone was going to pay around £20,000 for that piece of land it is clear they are going to have a go at anything to make money from it. If the tyre wall goes it will just be replaced by something equally grotesque. The owner is not going to plant trees shrubs and put in a lovely waterfeature for the people of Westy and Howley. by the way I hope the High speed railway line doesnt keep Mr Moran up too much when it rattles through Glazebrook....!!! gerrumonside
  • Score: 23

1:39pm Wed 5 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
What a disgrace - it's bad enough the flyposting that goes on - this is just like somone sticking two fingers up at the local community :-(
Perhaps similar behaviour can be witnessed in the council chamber (either metaphorically or attitudinally).
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace - it's bad enough the flyposting that goes on - this is just like somone sticking two fingers up at the local community :-([/p][/quote]Perhaps similar behaviour can be witnessed in the council chamber (either metaphorically or attitudinally). SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

1:41pm Wed 5 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

MikeJT wrote:
Amanda Jayne Davies wrote:
If he likes it so much why doesn't he move it to outside his house. Does anybody in Warrington like it or think its acceptable?
Personally I dont have a problem with it (but think it would look better at one continuous level rather than with the little "turrets". Its not in a residential area and doesn't obstruct the view of any drivers or pedestrians. I would question the claim about 9 weeks to build but I assume this include the time to construct the bales themselves.

I do wonder if the argument would be different if the Kingsway Bridge smash had happened further down and the tyres had stop a vehicle running off the road.
A most reasoned and agreeable comment, I am with you on this one.
[quote][p][bold]MikeJT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amanda Jayne Davies[/bold] wrote: If he likes it so much why doesn't he move it to outside his house. Does anybody in Warrington like it or think its acceptable?[/p][/quote]Personally I dont have a problem with it (but think it would look better at one continuous level rather than with the little "turrets". Its not in a residential area and doesn't obstruct the view of any drivers or pedestrians. I would question the claim about 9 weeks to build but I assume this include the time to construct the bales themselves. I do wonder if the argument would be different if the Kingsway Bridge smash had happened further down and the tyres had stop a vehicle running off the road.[/p][/quote]A most reasoned and agreeable comment, I am with you on this one. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -10

1:46pm Wed 5 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

gerrumonside wrote:
I'm Sorry but The council are to blame here. they owned the land and decided to sell it to anyone that would pay up. It's fit for very little, and if someone was going to pay around £20,000 for that piece of land it is clear they are going to have a go at anything to make money from it.

If the tyre wall goes it will just be replaced by something equally grotesque. The owner is not going to plant trees shrubs and put in a lovely waterfeature for the people of Westy and Howley.

by the way I hope the High speed railway line doesnt keep Mr Moran up too much when it rattles through Glazebrook....!!!
Another reasoned comment well said.

Although, Re the high speed train, it is not going to do very much for Warrington, so wouldn't wish its planned disruption on anyone.
[quote][p][bold]gerrumonside[/bold] wrote: I'm Sorry but The council are to blame here. they owned the land and decided to sell it to anyone that would pay up. It's fit for very little, and if someone was going to pay around £20,000 for that piece of land it is clear they are going to have a go at anything to make money from it. If the tyre wall goes it will just be replaced by something equally grotesque. The owner is not going to plant trees shrubs and put in a lovely waterfeature for the people of Westy and Howley. by the way I hope the High speed railway line doesnt keep Mr Moran up too much when it rattles through Glazebrook....!!![/p][/quote]Another reasoned comment well said. Although, Re the high speed train, it is not going to do very much for Warrington, so wouldn't wish its planned disruption on anyone. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

3:02pm Wed 5 Mar 14

mr dave k says...

He will argue then put in plans ,which will then be accepted for addversing bill boards like the one thats appeared on Manchester rd nr sainsburys,there will be room for 5 or 6 which will each bring in £350 a month and long term he will be quids in,this man is no fool,he is just playing the planning system, just like bigger developers like wimpy and barrett home s do
He will argue then put in plans ,which will then be accepted for addversing bill boards like the one thats appeared on Manchester rd nr sainsburys,there will be room for 5 or 6 which will each bring in £350 a month and long term he will be quids in,this man is no fool,he is just playing the planning system, just like bigger developers like wimpy and barrett home s do mr dave k
  • Score: 8

4:07pm Wed 5 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

mr dave k wrote:
He will argue then put in plans ,which will then be accepted for addversing bill boards like the one thats appeared on Manchester rd nr sainsburys,there will be room for 5 or 6 which will each bring in £350 a month and long term he will be quids in,this man is no fool,he is just playing the planning system, just like bigger developers like wimpy and barrett home s do
Spot on there Dave.
[quote][p][bold]mr dave k[/bold] wrote: He will argue then put in plans ,which will then be accepted for addversing bill boards like the one thats appeared on Manchester rd nr sainsburys,there will be room for 5 or 6 which will each bring in £350 a month and long term he will be quids in,this man is no fool,he is just playing the planning system, just like bigger developers like wimpy and barrett home s do[/p][/quote]Spot on there Dave. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 3

4:23pm Wed 5 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

mr dave k wrote:
He will argue then put in plans ,which will then be accepted for addversing bill boards like the one thats appeared on Manchester rd nr sainsburys,there will be room for 5 or 6 which will each bring in £350 a month and long term he will be quids in,this man is no fool,he is just playing the planning system, just like bigger developers like wimpy and barrett home s do
Wasn't going to waste my time commenting but you are exactly correct this guy is clued up and when the tyres go something will replace them. A business mind why do you think he bought a piece of wasteland? WBC will spend a fortune over years on legal fees fighting this guy and all his mad ideas that he will come up with. Certainly more than what they got for the land in the first place! Let him make his money and move on.
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]mr dave k[/bold] wrote: He will argue then put in plans ,which will then be accepted for addversing bill boards like the one thats appeared on Manchester rd nr sainsburys,there will be room for 5 or 6 which will each bring in £350 a month and long term he will be quids in,this man is no fool,he is just playing the planning system, just like bigger developers like wimpy and barrett home s do[/p][/quote]Wasn't going to waste my time commenting but you are exactly correct this guy is clued up and when the tyres go something will replace them. A business mind why do you think he bought a piece of wasteland? WBC will spend a fortune over years on legal fees fighting this guy and all his mad ideas that he will come up with. Certainly more than what they got for the land in the first place! Let him make his money and move on. Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project? Geoff Settle
  • Score: 8

4:33pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Bewseylad says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Maybe a Tyre shredding facility, and sell the shredded rubber to the council to keep weeds down on flower beds.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]Maybe a Tyre shredding facility, and sell the shredded rubber to the council to keep weeds down on flower beds. Bewseylad
  • Score: 5

4:35pm Wed 5 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Probably putting foundation down for a wall, a fence or advertising hoardings. Why didn't you pop over to ask them? Was it him or the council doing something? Geoff, who is Doe?
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]Probably putting foundation down for a wall, a fence or advertising hoardings. Why didn't you pop over to ask them? Was it him or the council doing something? Geoff, who is Doe? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 8

7:14pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Pspeake says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
I assume the diggers are something to do with the flood works being carried out is it part of the second or third phase.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]I assume the diggers are something to do with the flood works being carried out is it part of the second or third phase. Pspeake
  • Score: 5

8:55pm Wed 5 Mar 14

muckerman says...

I hope that nobody sets fire to them!
I hope that nobody sets fire to them! muckerman
  • Score: 14

9:49am Thu 6 Mar 14

david james01 says...

disgraceful get them moved they are a eyesore. How can this man appeal. MONEY that's all he is interested in. But you would have thought Abba cars would have removed there advert shame on you. Boycott ABBA cars.
disgraceful get them moved they are a eyesore. How can this man appeal. MONEY that's all he is interested in. But you would have thought Abba cars would have removed there advert shame on you. Boycott ABBA cars. david james01
  • Score: 13

10:17am Thu 6 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

david james01 wrote:
disgraceful get them moved they are a eyesore. How can this man appeal. MONEY that's all he is interested in. But you would have thought Abba cars would have removed there advert shame on you. Boycott ABBA cars.
As a low cost marketing ploy it seems to have generated a lot of low cost publicity, perhaps in preparation for the next phase of his project for the site will become apparent. The site is now his and he will do things on it that others may find incongruent with their own views. There are ofcourse rights that the casual observer may have such as an opinion, free speech and the like, however that is not always matter for legal action. He is a business strategist and he is trying to maximise his investment of the site he purchased from the council, who will use the money from the sale towards the provision of a single or several local services. Advertising hoardings seem to be a good option.

Take the experience and excellent example of the campaigners for the Peel Hall site fiasco and get started if you want to object to his plans for the development for the site. Perhaps consider having it listed as an ancient monument as it is close to the old latchford on the mersey, or a nature reserve, or list of scientific interest; that is if you ,( and others), are really affected by the development of the site and can be bothered enough to actually do something to effect any positive changes.
[quote][p][bold]david james01[/bold] wrote: disgraceful get them moved they are a eyesore. How can this man appeal. MONEY that's all he is interested in. But you would have thought Abba cars would have removed there advert shame on you. Boycott ABBA cars.[/p][/quote]As a low cost marketing ploy it seems to have generated a lot of low cost publicity, perhaps in preparation for the next phase of his project for the site will become apparent. The site is now his and he will do things on it that others may find incongruent with their own views. There are ofcourse rights that the casual observer may have such as an opinion, free speech and the like, however that is not always matter for legal action. He is a business strategist and he is trying to maximise his investment of the site he purchased from the council, who will use the money from the sale towards the provision of a single or several local services. Advertising hoardings seem to be a good option. Take the experience and excellent example of the campaigners for the Peel Hall site fiasco and get started if you want to object to his plans for the development for the site. Perhaps consider having it listed as an ancient monument as it is close to the old latchford on the mersey, or a nature reserve, or list of scientific interest; that is if you ,( and others), are really affected by the development of the site and can be bothered enough to actually do something to effect any positive changes. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 4

10:20am Thu 6 Mar 14

old-codger says...

muckerman wrote:
I hope that nobody sets fire to them!
Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).
[quote][p][bold]muckerman[/bold] wrote: I hope that nobody sets fire to them![/p][/quote]Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):). old-codger
  • Score: 10

12:03pm Thu 6 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

old-codger wrote:
muckerman wrote:
I hope that nobody sets fire to them!
Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).
Codger apparently he now lives in the countryside. Worzel Gummidge springs to mind!! Must be all them birds pecking his head that makes him MAD

Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muckerman[/bold] wrote: I hope that nobody sets fire to them![/p][/quote]Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).[/p][/quote]Codger apparently he now lives in the countryside. Worzel Gummidge springs to mind!! Must be all them birds pecking his head that makes him MAD Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 10

12:06pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Nick Tessla says...

old-codger wrote:
muckerman wrote:
I hope that nobody sets fire to them!
Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).
Hopefully, Matron doesn't let him play with matches ...or sharp objects.
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muckerman[/bold] wrote: I hope that nobody sets fire to them![/p][/quote]Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).[/p][/quote]Hopefully, Matron doesn't let him play with matches ...or sharp objects. Nick Tessla
  • Score: 13

5:51pm Thu 6 Mar 14

blasterbate says...

I have been to the environment agency today and complained about the situation this man is clearly breaking the law on more than one case , he was told that he could not encroach the brook to within 8 meters and also not to increase the level of the ground which he is clearly doing also he is destroying the breeding grounds of t6he water vole which in its self is punishable by imprisonment under the wildlife act its abouit time the community ie westy councillors Fairfield and howley took this man to task he is doing whatever he wants let him do it up at glazebury or wherever he lives I,m also dismayed that whilst warrington is undergoing vast flood relief projects he adding to the problem as the land is and was developed as a flood relief meadow and a fish haven at great cost by the environment agency a few years ago to which I as an angler pay to with my fishing license steve bate latchford resident
I have been to the environment agency today and complained about the situation this man is clearly breaking the law on more than one case , he was told that he could not encroach the brook to within 8 meters and also not to increase the level of the ground which he is clearly doing also he is destroying the breeding grounds of t6he water vole which in its self is punishable by imprisonment under the wildlife act its abouit time the community ie westy councillors Fairfield and howley took this man to task he is doing whatever he wants let him do it up at glazebury or wherever he lives I,m also dismayed that whilst warrington is undergoing vast flood relief projects he adding to the problem as the land is and was developed as a flood relief meadow and a fish haven at great cost by the environment agency a few years ago to which I as an angler pay to with my fishing license steve bate latchford resident blasterbate
  • Score: 8

6:00pm Thu 6 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

blasterbate wrote:
I have been to the environment agency today and complained about the situation this man is clearly breaking the law on more than one case , he was told that he could not encroach the brook to within 8 meters and also not to increase the level of the ground which he is clearly doing also he is destroying the breeding grounds of t6he water vole which in its self is punishable by imprisonment under the wildlife act its abouit time the community ie westy councillors Fairfield and howley took this man to task he is doing whatever he wants let him do it up at glazebury or wherever he lives I,m also dismayed that whilst warrington is undergoing vast flood relief projects he adding to the problem as the land is and was developed as a flood relief meadow and a fish haven at great cost by the environment agency a few years ago to which I as an angler pay to with my fishing license steve bate latchford resident
Looks like you will have to start organising them or they will just sit it out. I wish you well.
[quote][p][bold]blasterbate[/bold] wrote: I have been to the environment agency today and complained about the situation this man is clearly breaking the law on more than one case , he was told that he could not encroach the brook to within 8 meters and also not to increase the level of the ground which he is clearly doing also he is destroying the breeding grounds of t6he water vole which in its self is punishable by imprisonment under the wildlife act its abouit time the community ie westy councillors Fairfield and howley took this man to task he is doing whatever he wants let him do it up at glazebury or wherever he lives I,m also dismayed that whilst warrington is undergoing vast flood relief projects he adding to the problem as the land is and was developed as a flood relief meadow and a fish haven at great cost by the environment agency a few years ago to which I as an angler pay to with my fishing license steve bate latchford resident[/p][/quote]Looks like you will have to start organising them or they will just sit it out. I wish you well. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Mr.Bean says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Probably putting foundation down for a wall, a fence or advertising hoardings. Why didn't you pop over to ask them? Was it him or the council doing something? Geoff, who is Doe?
I live on Kingsway and have the river mersey running right infront of my house and behind the tyre wall. I am only guessing that its flood defences. Hopfully.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]Probably putting foundation down for a wall, a fence or advertising hoardings. Why didn't you pop over to ask them? Was it him or the council doing something? Geoff, who is Doe?[/p][/quote]I live on Kingsway and have the river mersey running right infront of my house and behind the tyre wall. I am only guessing that its flood defences. Hopfully. Mr.Bean
  • Score: 2

10:03pm Thu 6 Mar 14

grey-area says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Shouldn't the council already know the answer to this? If they don't know of any planning applications, then they should be on site right now. I'll leave it with you Councillor Settle.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]Shouldn't the council already know the answer to this? If they don't know of any planning applications, then they should be on site right now. I'll leave it with you Councillor Settle. grey-area
  • Score: 6

8:24am Fri 7 Mar 14

ginga4073 says...

wonder if he pays tax on the adverts mmmmm
wonder if he pays tax on the adverts mmmmm ginga4073
  • Score: 3

8:31am Fri 7 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

ginga4073 wrote:
wonder if he pays tax on the adverts mmmmm
Are you going to report him to the tax people then?
[quote][p][bold]ginga4073[/bold] wrote: wonder if he pays tax on the adverts mmmmm[/p][/quote]Are you going to report him to the tax people then? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 3

8:33am Fri 7 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Any sightings of, or any posability of an anti-development group for this issue yet?
Any sightings of, or any posability of an anti-development group for this issue yet? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 2

8:39am Fri 7 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

grey-area wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Shouldn't the council already know the answer to this? If they don't know of any planning applications, then they should be on site right now. I'll leave it with you Councillor Settle.
They obviously know about the tyre wall and are in the process of taking action hence the lead paragraph of this story.
" THE owner of a wall of tyres from Glazebrook is appealing the council’s decision to remove the ‘eyesore’.

Patrick Moran, of Glazebrook Lane, is fighting the council’s demands to remove the bales of used tyres from the land near to the junction on Farrell Street and Kingsway North."
Since the construction of the tyre wall he appears to have strated on another project or something alse is taking place.
Due process has to take place and be seen to be done and this takes time there are some developers who just dow give a monkey's about such processes and go blindly on without taking any advice - they just think that it's their right do do what they please - this may be one example of such action. I will certainly be taking a closer look today whilst I am out and about to see which category I think this latest action falls into.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]Shouldn't the council already know the answer to this? If they don't know of any planning applications, then they should be on site right now. I'll leave it with you Councillor Settle.[/p][/quote]They obviously know about the tyre wall and are in the process of taking action hence the lead paragraph of this story. " THE owner of a wall of tyres from Glazebrook is appealing the council’s decision to remove the ‘eyesore’. Patrick Moran, of Glazebrook Lane, is fighting the council’s demands to remove the bales of used tyres from the land near to the junction on Farrell Street and Kingsway North." Since the construction of the tyre wall he appears to have strated on another project or something alse is taking place. Due process has to take place and be seen to be done and this takes time there are some developers who just dow give a monkey's about such processes and go blindly on without taking any advice - they just think that it's their right do do what they please - this may be one example of such action. I will certainly be taking a closer look today whilst I am out and about to see which category I think this latest action falls into. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Fri 7 Mar 14

ALI-G- says...

I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen !
I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen ! ALI-G-
  • Score: -20

4:56pm Fri 7 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

ALI-G- wrote:
I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen !
Was you p***ed when you typed this.
Either way empty threats we have the law on our side so shut the f**k up.
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen ![/p][/quote]Was you p***ed when you typed this. Either way empty threats we have the law on our side so shut the f**k up. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 20

5:13pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

ALI-G- wrote:
I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen !
From what I saw today he is doing a poor job of that - he appears to be flattenting the land with two bull dozers - he has lorries queuing up to dump loads of soil on top which is then flattened. Has he doner a survey to see what natural wildlife is there - further up the brook there have been water voles, the river bed is being contaminated and what has happened to the land on the Ambulance side where trees have been cut adon and further flattening has taken place - this might be in preparation for the EA defenses to protect the power station. Has he liaised with them. But as you are such a good mate tells us his vision is and has he sort planning permission or is what he is doing considered as being permissive?
As for the school they must be looking after the children's best interest - why is nothing being done?
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen ![/p][/quote]From what I saw today he is doing a poor job of that - he appears to be flattenting the land with two bull dozers - he has lorries queuing up to dump loads of soil on top which is then flattened. Has he doner a survey to see what natural wildlife is there - further up the brook there have been water voles, the river bed is being contaminated and what has happened to the land on the Ambulance side where trees have been cut adon and further flattening has taken place - this might be in preparation for the EA defenses to protect the power station. Has he liaised with them. But as you are such a good mate tells us his vision is and has he sort planning permission or is what he is doing considered as being permissive? As for the school they must be looking after the children's best interest - why is nothing being done? Geoff Settle
  • Score: 12

6:18pm Fri 7 Mar 14

blasterbate says...

I agree with Geoff , if yoire such a good family friend then tell him to come clean and tell us what he,s got plannedf as for a nature reserve what planet do you and your kind come from do you country yokels think were so thick in warrington get back to the place you belong
I agree with Geoff , if yoire such a good family friend then tell him to come clean and tell us what he,s got plannedf as for a nature reserve what planet do you and your kind come from do you country yokels think were so thick in warrington get back to the place you belong blasterbate
  • Score: 7

6:20pm Fri 7 Mar 14

PageA says...

ALI-G- wrote:
I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen !
These chaps won't concern themselves with the impact their rantings have on the children of involved Ali, I wouldn't waste your breath. Personally I think it gives the town a nice symmetry and goes well with the big pink building on the opposite approach...which also features an advertisement for a local taxi company. The pink eye is a monument to WBCs planning department's attitude...I'm not surprised he didn't approach them. As we all know advertising should be paid for and feature in the Warrington Guardian...unless it's for disability awareness day, which can be spiked every 5 yards along every road in town until they blow away.
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen ![/p][/quote]These chaps won't concern themselves with the impact their rantings have on the children of involved Ali, I wouldn't waste your breath. Personally I think it gives the town a nice symmetry and goes well with the big pink building on the opposite approach...which also features an advertisement for a local taxi company. The pink eye is a monument to WBCs planning department's attitude...I'm not surprised he didn't approach them. As we all know advertising should be paid for and feature in the Warrington Guardian...unless it's for disability awareness day, which can be spiked every 5 yards along every road in town until they blow away. PageA
  • Score: 6

6:47pm Fri 7 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
ALI-G- wrote:
I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen !
These chaps won't concern themselves with the impact their rantings have on the children of involved Ali, I wouldn't waste your breath. Personally I think it gives the town a nice symmetry and goes well with the big pink building on the opposite approach...which also features an advertisement for a local taxi company. The pink eye is a monument to WBCs planning department's attitude...I'm not surprised he didn't approach them. As we all know advertising should be paid for and feature in the Warrington Guardian...unless it's for disability awareness day, which can be spiked every 5 yards along every road in town until they blow away.
PageA is back whey hey where have you been hiding, behind them tyres or just busy driving your taxi?
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen ![/p][/quote]These chaps won't concern themselves with the impact their rantings have on the children of involved Ali, I wouldn't waste your breath. Personally I think it gives the town a nice symmetry and goes well with the big pink building on the opposite approach...which also features an advertisement for a local taxi company. The pink eye is a monument to WBCs planning department's attitude...I'm not surprised he didn't approach them. As we all know advertising should be paid for and feature in the Warrington Guardian...unless it's for disability awareness day, which can be spiked every 5 yards along every road in town until they blow away.[/p][/quote]PageA is back whey hey where have you been hiding, behind them tyres or just busy driving your taxi? Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 4

7:24pm Fri 7 Mar 14

PageA says...

Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes!
Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes! PageA
  • Score: -4

7:55pm Fri 7 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes!
You been on the M&S wine again I see so I will forgive your personal abuse and the fact that you was actually are "chatting sh*t " obviously that would be the red coming out of you. And unlike you I don't do 5 minutes I have a far larger attention span!
Still Grumpy (but not pretentious enough to shop at M&S)
"Only God can judge me" Tupac Shakur.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes![/p][/quote]You been on the M&S wine again I see so I will forgive your personal abuse and the fact that you was actually are "chatting sh*t " obviously that would be the red coming out of you. And unlike you I don't do 5 minutes I have a far larger attention span! Still Grumpy (but not pretentious enough to shop at M&S) "Only God can judge me" Tupac Shakur. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Fri 7 Mar 14

local man says...

Im not sure if Ali G is a child, a moron or just drunk. Cant help wonder if its the landowner himself?
Im not sure if Ali G is a child, a moron or just drunk. Cant help wonder if its the landowner himself? local man
  • Score: 8

9:44am Sat 8 Mar 14

PageA says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes!
You been on the M&S wine again I see so I will forgive your personal abuse and the fact that you was actually are "chatting sh*t " obviously that would be the red coming out of you. And unlike you I don't do 5 minutes I have a far larger attention span!
Still Grumpy (but not pretentious enough to shop at M&S)
"Only God can judge me" Tupac Shakur.
Wasn't meant to be abuse Grumpy, just a word to the wise. Sometimes it's better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool.. than speak freely and remove all doubt.

Prefer my hip hop more old school to be honest..

"You're the instigator, the orator of the town
You're the worst when you converse, just a big mouth clown
You talk when you're awake, I heard you talk when you sleep
Has anyone ever told you, that talk is cheap"
"You talk too much" Run DMC
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes![/p][/quote]You been on the M&S wine again I see so I will forgive your personal abuse and the fact that you was actually are "chatting sh*t " obviously that would be the red coming out of you. And unlike you I don't do 5 minutes I have a far larger attention span! Still Grumpy (but not pretentious enough to shop at M&S) "Only God can judge me" Tupac Shakur.[/p][/quote]Wasn't meant to be abuse Grumpy, just a word to the wise. Sometimes it's better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool.. than speak freely and remove all doubt. Prefer my hip hop more old school to be honest.. "You're the instigator, the orator of the town You're the worst when you converse, just a big mouth clown You talk when you're awake, I heard you talk when you sleep Has anyone ever told you, that talk is cheap" "You talk too much" Run DMC PageA
  • Score: 1

2:20pm Sat 8 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes!
You been on the M&S wine again I see so I will forgive your personal abuse and the fact that you was actually are "chatting sh*t " obviously that would be the red coming out of you. And unlike you I don't do 5 minutes I have a far larger attention span!
Still Grumpy (but not pretentious enough to shop at M&S)
"Only God can judge me" Tupac Shakur.
Wasn't meant to be abuse Grumpy, just a word to the wise. Sometimes it's better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool.. than speak freely and remove all doubt.

Prefer my hip hop more old school to be honest..

"You're the instigator, the orator of the town
You're the worst when you converse, just a big mouth clown
You talk when you're awake, I heard you talk when you sleep
Has anyone ever told you, that talk is cheap"
"You talk too much" Run DMC
You say it best, when you say nothing at all. Ronan Keating
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: Well you know...I like chattin' sh*t as much as the next man.....unless the next man happens to be you! You're like a machine on here buddy, wind your neck in for 5 minutes![/p][/quote]You been on the M&S wine again I see so I will forgive your personal abuse and the fact that you was actually are "chatting sh*t " obviously that would be the red coming out of you. And unlike you I don't do 5 minutes I have a far larger attention span! Still Grumpy (but not pretentious enough to shop at M&S) "Only God can judge me" Tupac Shakur.[/p][/quote]Wasn't meant to be abuse Grumpy, just a word to the wise. Sometimes it's better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool.. than speak freely and remove all doubt. Prefer my hip hop more old school to be honest.. "You're the instigator, the orator of the town You're the worst when you converse, just a big mouth clown You talk when you're awake, I heard you talk when you sleep Has anyone ever told you, that talk is cheap" "You talk too much" Run DMC[/p][/quote]You say it best, when you say nothing at all. Ronan Keating Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Sat 8 Mar 14

ALI-G- says...

blasterbate wrote:
I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit
The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion
[quote][p][bold]blasterbate[/bold] wrote: I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit[/p][/quote]The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion ALI-G-
  • Score: -13

5:21pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

ALI-G- wrote:
blasterbate wrote:
I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit
The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion
Good news about the Glazebury youngster but everything you write is utter rubbish - let's face it you wouldn't even get away with doing what your mate has done on a garage forecourt :-(
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blasterbate[/bold] wrote: I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit[/p][/quote]The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion[/p][/quote]Good news about the Glazebury youngster but everything you write is utter rubbish - let's face it you wouldn't even get away with doing what your mate has done on a garage forecourt :-( Geoff Settle
  • Score: 9

8:28pm Sat 8 Mar 14

PageA says...

ALI-G- wrote:
blasterbate wrote:
I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit
The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion
Stay strong brother man Ali G! Newspapers don't like people advertising anywhere else but with them and councillors don't like things happening that they didn't instigate or approve. Newspaper and councillors live in each other's pockets so ignore it. Come the revolution they'll be first against the (tyre) wall! I think it looks good..and I feel like a star in a reasonably priced car going around that corner. Chill out people, free enterprise lives on. It was the planners that putKingsway house on that bend, what do they know about aesthetics
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blasterbate[/bold] wrote: I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit[/p][/quote]The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion[/p][/quote]Stay strong brother man Ali G! Newspapers don't like people advertising anywhere else but with them and councillors don't like things happening that they didn't instigate or approve. Newspaper and councillors live in each other's pockets so ignore it. Come the revolution they'll be first against the (tyre) wall! I think it looks good..and I feel like a star in a reasonably priced car going around that corner. Chill out people, free enterprise lives on. It was the planners that putKingsway house on that bend, what do they know about aesthetics PageA
  • Score: -9

8:52pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook
.com/media/set/?set=
a.532753020171100.10
73741917.11088607902
4465&type=3&uploaded
=29#!/media/set/?set
=a.532552440191158.1
073741916.1108860790
24465&type=1
Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook .com/media/set/?set= a.532753020171100.10 73741917.11088607902 4465&type=3&uploaded =29#!/media/set/?set =a.532552440191158.1 073741916.1108860790 24465&type=1 Geoff Settle
  • Score: 6

9:38pm Sat 8 Mar 14

old-codger says...

Bewseylad wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?
Maybe a Tyre shredding facility, and sell the shredded rubber to the council to keep weeds down on flower beds.
Maybe its going to be a condom production facility or a rubber duck factory. Maybe the council are too tyred to do anything about it. Mr Moran will need these tyres at home to reduce the noise from the flying Scotsman.
[quote][p][bold]Bewseylad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Just passed by and saw the diggers - doe anyone know what he is doing now - is he putting foundations down for some building project?[/p][/quote]Maybe a Tyre shredding facility, and sell the shredded rubber to the council to keep weeds down on flower beds.[/p][/quote]Maybe its going to be a condom production facility or a rubber duck factory. Maybe the council are too tyred to do anything about it. Mr Moran will need these tyres at home to reduce the noise from the flying Scotsman. old-codger
  • Score: 6

9:43pm Sat 8 Mar 14

old-codger says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
old-codger wrote:
muckerman wrote:
I hope that nobody sets fire to them!
Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).
Codger apparently he now lives in the countryside. Worzel Gummidge springs to mind!! Must be all them birds pecking his head that makes him MAD

Still Grumpy
He must have been evicted from latchford, Hollins Park is in the countryside but that's too close to orford for him...:):):)
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muckerman[/bold] wrote: I hope that nobody sets fire to them![/p][/quote]Don't give people idea,s... Mad4it liver near there. :):):).[/p][/quote]Codger apparently he now lives in the countryside. Worzel Gummidge springs to mind!! Must be all them birds pecking his head that makes him MAD Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]He must have been evicted from latchford, Hollins Park is in the countryside but that's too close to orford for him...:):):) old-codger
  • Score: 5

9:53pm Sat 8 Mar 14

old-codger says...

ALI-G- wrote:
I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen !
Was this written by a five year old friend of the family children or someone who has a faulty keyboard. The people on Kingsway are neither poor nor deprived, Saying much worse things will happen shows your mental age to be roughly about 9. Get a life and grow up.
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: I am a family friend of the owner and because of the Warrington guardian his children are now getting bullied at school and kne of his children had to come home after being Beaton up and had tone taken to A&E. Befor you all jump to conclusions maybe you should ask the owner what he is doing with the field like how he's turning into a nature reseve and for the poor deprived people of kings way to use it to walk there dogs ! So maybe you should just be carful how oi behave and what you say and not just jusne to conclusions otherwise much worse thins will happen ![/p][/quote]Was this written by a five year old friend of the family children or someone who has a faulty keyboard. The people on Kingsway are neither poor nor deprived, Saying much worse things will happen shows your mental age to be roughly about 9. Get a life and grow up. old-codger
  • Score: 8

10:03pm Sat 8 Mar 14

old-codger says...

ALI-G- wrote:
blasterbate wrote:
I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit
The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion
INVEST IN A DICTIONARY, tieres= TYRES, great ful = GRATEFUL, rediculoise= RIDICULOUS just like your comments.
[quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blasterbate[/bold] wrote: I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit[/p][/quote]The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion[/p][/quote]INVEST IN A DICTIONARY, tieres= TYRES, great ful = GRATEFUL, rediculoise= RIDICULOUS just like your comments. old-codger
  • Score: 10

8:45am Sun 9 Mar 14

PageA says...

old-codger wrote:
ALI-G- wrote:
blasterbate wrote:
I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit
The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion
INVEST IN A DICTIONARY, tieres= TYRES, great ful = GRATEFUL, rediculoise= RIDICULOUS just like your comments.
I think there's a difference between correcting someone who makes a spelling mistake when up on their soapbox...and what you have just done here. This is hateful behaviour on your part old-codger. You have know idea, what barriers have been overcome by Ali G to take part in this conversation and I welcome his input. You and councillor Settle still seem to have a real problem with people with varying opinions to your own. Ridiculing and insulting people because of their abilities might pass for appropriate behaviour in the town hall but I object to it on here. There may well be people with real challenges to face who want to contribute on this forum and neither you nor councillor Settle should insult them or dismiss their opinions as being utter rubbish

So to recap...tyre wall planned, built and paid for by a member of the public to raise advertising revenue on land that he owns = Bad
Ridiculous green skittles that make our town centre look like a scene from The day of The Triffids, planned by councillors, paid for by us = Good.

Ok I think I understand how this town is put together now
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ALI-G-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blasterbate[/bold] wrote: I,m fuming at you ali g you pricjk !!!!¬ poor deprived people of Kingsway are we ? you,re acting just like your nom de plume a right **** arsehole now **** off back under the stone you came from half wit[/p][/quote]The younge child who was attacked at school is now settled but as for some of you here still putting meliciouse comments you need to get a job or ind Somthing better to do. The tieres or thaw land improvements don't affect you in any way so I don't see why you are all making such an issue about it. The tiere wall is a nice pear of architecture. The tire wall is much nicer then a big 6foot solid brick wall that the council would have put up so just be great ful and get used to it. Thank you for the supporters and the people that art being rediculoise and blowing things out of preportion[/p][/quote]INVEST IN A DICTIONARY, tieres= TYRES, great ful = GRATEFUL, rediculoise= RIDICULOUS just like your comments.[/p][/quote]I think there's a difference between correcting someone who makes a spelling mistake when up on their soapbox...and what you have just done here. This is hateful behaviour on your part old-codger. You have know idea, what barriers have been overcome by Ali G to take part in this conversation and I welcome his input. You and councillor Settle still seem to have a real problem with people with varying opinions to your own. Ridiculing and insulting people because of their abilities might pass for appropriate behaviour in the town hall but I object to it on here. There may well be people with real challenges to face who want to contribute on this forum and neither you nor councillor Settle should insult them or dismiss their opinions as being utter rubbish So to recap...tyre wall planned, built and paid for by a member of the public to raise advertising revenue on land that he owns = Bad Ridiculous green skittles that make our town centre look like a scene from The day of The Triffids, planned by councillors, paid for by us = Good. Ok I think I understand how this town is put together now PageA
  • Score: -2

8:46am Sun 9 Mar 14

PageA says...

**no idea*
**no idea* PageA
  • Score: -9

8:47am Sun 9 Mar 14

PageA says...

*
* PageA
  • Score: -9

8:50am Sun 9 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook

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Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook .com/media/set/?set= a.532753020171100.10 73741917.11088607902 4465&type=3& uploaded =29#!/media/set/?set =a.532552440191158.1 073741916.1108860790 24465&type=1[/p][/quote]Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you. PageA
  • Score: -4

10:09am Mon 10 Mar 14

dannyb210 says...

the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions.

they wont look bad when adds cover them.
the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions. they wont look bad when adds cover them. dannyb210
  • Score: -1

10:32am Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

dannyb210 wrote:
the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions.

they wont look bad when adds cover them.
The tyres seem to be a temporary boundary screen for the site while it is being prepared for something else. This is quite common when such land owners take hold of their land and attempt to tidy it up, demolish existing buildings, prepare for rebuilding, build new accommodation, plant out formal and informal gardens or wildlife refuges and many other reasons. It is also common for posters, placards and banners to be placed on the boundary structures as you will no doubt have seen at locations all over the borough. I am sure that Mr. Moran, whom I have no contact or any relationship with will be savvy enough to understand the legal process involved in the work he is doing on his land. The legal position seems to me to be unclear to the council and other casual observers who only think that he might be transgressing in his current actions. The council's legal actions don't seem to have worked as Mr. Moran has challenged them and the wall of tyres remain.

All the protesters need, yes need, to come together and instigate a cohesive strategy if they are going to effect and change in Mr. Moran's actions, but so far and while everyone acts independently very little, if anything will happen, mark my words.
[quote][p][bold]dannyb210[/bold] wrote: the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions. they wont look bad when adds cover them.[/p][/quote]The tyres seem to be a temporary boundary screen for the site while it is being prepared for something else. This is quite common when such land owners take hold of their land and attempt to tidy it up, demolish existing buildings, prepare for rebuilding, build new accommodation, plant out formal and informal gardens or wildlife refuges and many other reasons. It is also common for posters, placards and banners to be placed on the boundary structures as you will no doubt have seen at locations all over the borough. I am sure that Mr. Moran, whom I have no contact or any relationship with will be savvy enough to understand the legal process involved in the work he is doing on his land. The legal position seems to me to be unclear to the council and other casual observers who only think that he might be transgressing in his current actions. The council's legal actions don't seem to have worked as Mr. Moran has challenged them and the wall of tyres remain. All the protesters need, yes need, to come together and instigate a cohesive strategy if they are going to effect and change in Mr. Moran's actions, but so far and while everyone acts independently very little, if anything will happen, mark my words. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

10:50am Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook


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Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.
That will only digress away from the tyre story which is the main theme - you can always contact the planning department or you local councillor for an update and I'm sure that they will oblige. I may start a thread on the WNCF Facebook, which is what I have done for the tyre wall So please if you are intrested in Wildlife Conservation LIKE our Facebook site - just go to the Facebook search engine and look for Warrington Nature Conservation Forum and you should find us and more photos.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook .com/media/set/?set= a.532753020171100.10 73741917.11088607902 4465&type=3& uploaded =29#!/media/set/?set =a.532552440191158.1 073741916.1108860790 24465&type=1[/p][/quote]Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.[/p][/quote]That will only digress away from the tyre story which is the main theme - you can always contact the planning department or you local councillor for an update and I'm sure that they will oblige. I may start a thread on the WNCF Facebook, which is what I have done for the tyre wall So please if you are intrested in Wildlife Conservation LIKE our Facebook site - just go to the Facebook search engine and look for Warrington Nature Conservation Forum and you should find us and more photos. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 2

11:20am Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook



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Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.
That will only digress away from the tyre story which is the main theme - you can always contact the planning department or you local councillor for an update and I'm sure that they will oblige. I may start a thread on the WNCF Facebook, which is what I have done for the tyre wall So please if you are intrested in Wildlife Conservation LIKE our Facebook site - just go to the Facebook search engine and look for Warrington Nature Conservation Forum and you should find us and more photos.
Geoff, this tactic you are suggesting will only serve to signpost people to marginally interested groups. Is this your intention or hadn't you actually thought out your suggestion. You now appear to be using the ancient tactic of divide and conquer either intentionally or in naivety then unintentionally.

The protesters need to come together as one group and as I have previously stated they need to come up with a coherent strategy. Your wildlife group and other interest and recognised groups should then come to that group , that is if they are interested in effecting some change at the location in question. are you not in the position as a local politician to start the ball rolling, do you not have skills in organising local consultation meetings, are you not familiar with campaign issues? I would also say the same to any other local politician however you appear to be the only one personally responding in these comments. Incidentally if any of the other commentators are local political activists then my comments are also aimed at YOU!
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook .com/media/set/?set= a.532753020171100.10 73741917.11088607902 4465&type=3& uploaded =29#!/media/set/?set =a.532552440191158.1 073741916.1108860790 24465&type=1[/p][/quote]Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.[/p][/quote]That will only digress away from the tyre story which is the main theme - you can always contact the planning department or you local councillor for an update and I'm sure that they will oblige. I may start a thread on the WNCF Facebook, which is what I have done for the tyre wall So please if you are intrested in Wildlife Conservation LIKE our Facebook site - just go to the Facebook search engine and look for Warrington Nature Conservation Forum and you should find us and more photos.[/p][/quote]Geoff, this tactic you are suggesting will only serve to signpost people to marginally interested groups. Is this your intention or hadn't you actually thought out your suggestion. You now appear to be using the ancient tactic of divide and conquer either intentionally or in naivety then unintentionally. The protesters need to come together as one group and as I have previously stated they need to come up with a coherent strategy. Your wildlife group and other interest and recognised groups should then come to that group , that is if they are interested in effecting some change at the location in question. are you not in the position as a local politician to start the ball rolling, do you not have skills in organising local consultation meetings, are you not familiar with campaign issues? I would also say the same to any other local politician however you appear to be the only one personally responding in these comments. Incidentally if any of the other commentators are local political activists then my comments are also aimed at YOU! SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 0

11:32am Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

As with all planning applications - as I am a member of the planning committee I have to be very careful as to what I say or do in case I prejudice my postion. The case is in appeal so I have to be even more careful - I believe though that it is in appeal against the advertisements and not what is happening behind the tyre wall. In additon it is not in my patch and I am always conscious about NOT stepping in other councillors wards. I have been warned of and rightly so in the past whilst on other occasions I have been welcomed. Everything has to be seen to be done in terms of planning law - at the moment the only thing that he appears to be contravening is the advertising. Having said this I am now allowed to take down illegal fly posting on the highway - and I have been doing just that in my ward with my scissors and step ladder - taking down about 30 placards. I will continue to monitor and collect evidence.
As with all planning applications - as I am a member of the planning committee I have to be very careful as to what I say or do in case I prejudice my postion. The case is in appeal so I have to be even more careful - I believe though that it is in appeal against the advertisements and not what is happening behind the tyre wall. In additon it is not in my patch and I am always conscious about NOT stepping in other councillors wards. I have been warned of and rightly so in the past whilst on other occasions I have been welcomed. Everything has to be seen to be done in terms of planning law - at the moment the only thing that he appears to be contravening is the advertising. Having said this I am now allowed to take down illegal fly posting on the highway - and I have been doing just that in my ward with my scissors and step ladder - taking down about 30 placards. I will continue to monitor and collect evidence. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 2

11:45am Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
As with all planning applications - as I am a member of the planning committee I have to be very careful as to what I say or do in case I prejudice my postion. The case is in appeal so I have to be even more careful - I believe though that it is in appeal against the advertisements and not what is happening behind the tyre wall. In additon it is not in my patch and I am always conscious about NOT stepping in other councillors wards. I have been warned of and rightly so in the past whilst on other occasions I have been welcomed. Everything has to be seen to be done in terms of planning law - at the moment the only thing that he appears to be contravening is the advertising. Having said this I am now allowed to take down illegal fly posting on the highway - and I have been doing just that in my ward with my scissors and step ladder - taking down about 30 placards. I will continue to monitor and collect evidence.
OK, I see then that you have insurmountable risks to contend with additionally you have clearly stated your limitations of any usefulness. That is now crystal clear and that you are distancing yourself from this Municipal and metaphorical hot potato. Thank you Geoff for doing that.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: As with all planning applications - as I am a member of the planning committee I have to be very careful as to what I say or do in case I prejudice my postion. The case is in appeal so I have to be even more careful - I believe though that it is in appeal against the advertisements and not what is happening behind the tyre wall. In additon it is not in my patch and I am always conscious about NOT stepping in other councillors wards. I have been warned of and rightly so in the past whilst on other occasions I have been welcomed. Everything has to be seen to be done in terms of planning law - at the moment the only thing that he appears to be contravening is the advertising. Having said this I am now allowed to take down illegal fly posting on the highway - and I have been doing just that in my ward with my scissors and step ladder - taking down about 30 placards. I will continue to monitor and collect evidence.[/p][/quote]OK, I see then that you have insurmountable risks to contend with additionally you have clearly stated your limitations of any usefulness. That is now crystal clear and that you are distancing yourself from this Municipal and metaphorical hot potato. Thank you Geoff for doing that. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

12:46pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook



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Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.
That will only digress away from the tyre story which is the main theme - you can always contact the planning department or you local councillor for an update and I'm sure that they will oblige. I may start a thread on the WNCF Facebook, which is what I have done for the tyre wall So please if you are intrested in Wildlife Conservation LIKE our Facebook site - just go to the Facebook search engine and look for Warrington Nature Conservation Forum and you should find us and more photos.
Is it the main story Geoff. Maybe that's because you seem to pick your battles and your enemies very carefully.

I must admit that I know very little on the subject. I was very interested in this comment made back in Feb regarding the Omega development...

'Only in Warrington would planners allow hundreds of mature tress to be destroyed, including woodland and habitat for great crested newts, brown hare, buzzards, peregrine falcon, bats, ponds to be removed without a second thought. The so called green heart is farcical - fell tress that are a hundred years old and clear woodland to plant saplings which will never reach maturity. The short-shortsightedne

ss of Warrington planners is breathtaking.This could be a world class development if natural features were enhanced rather than destroyed but Warrington is not exactly renowned as 'leafy' and nor will it ever be with the rate of tree and habitat loss currently.'

Can I ask you as chair of Warrington Nature Conservation Forum the same question that I did to you as a trustee at Dial a Ride...Do you feel that your position represents a conflict of interests? How can we expect a man on the planning committee to effectively safeguard the wildlife that his decisions are impacting upon? Maybe I've overlooked the opinion of the Warrington Nature Conservation Forum in these pages, but if the statement above is correct..why are you not openly and vociferously voicing your opinions? it, again, seems to me that you are keeping a lid on things Geoff. You seem to be busying yourself with insignificant and extraneous issues whilst one of the largest development projects in the country chews through acres of natural habitat with your blessing. i'm struggling to take you seriously to be honest
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Here is a link to photos taken yesterday behind the wall of tyres https://www.facebook .com/media/set/?set= a.532753020171100.10 73741917.11088607902 4465&type=3& uploaded =29#!/media/set/?set =a.532552440191158.1 073741916.1108860790 24465&type=1[/p][/quote]Geoff, can you update us from the Omega site please. Go on I dare you.[/p][/quote]That will only digress away from the tyre story which is the main theme - you can always contact the planning department or you local councillor for an update and I'm sure that they will oblige. I may start a thread on the WNCF Facebook, which is what I have done for the tyre wall So please if you are intrested in Wildlife Conservation LIKE our Facebook site - just go to the Facebook search engine and look for Warrington Nature Conservation Forum and you should find us and more photos.[/p][/quote]Is it the main story Geoff. Maybe that's because you seem to pick your battles and your enemies very carefully. I must admit that I know very little on the subject. I was very interested in this comment made back in Feb regarding the Omega development... 'Only in Warrington would planners allow hundreds of mature tress to be destroyed, including woodland and habitat for great crested newts, brown hare, buzzards, peregrine falcon, bats, ponds to be removed without a second thought. The so called green heart is farcical - fell tress that are a hundred years old and clear woodland to plant saplings which will never reach maturity. The short-shortsightedne ss of Warrington planners is breathtaking.This could be a world class development if natural features were enhanced rather than destroyed but Warrington is not exactly renowned as 'leafy' and nor will it ever be with the rate of tree and habitat loss currently.' Can I ask you as chair of Warrington Nature Conservation Forum the same question that I did to you as a trustee at Dial a Ride...Do you feel that your position represents a conflict of interests? How can we expect a man on the planning committee to effectively safeguard the wildlife that his decisions are impacting upon? Maybe I've overlooked the opinion of the Warrington Nature Conservation Forum in these pages, but if the statement above is correct..why are you not openly and vociferously voicing your opinions? it, again, seems to me that you are keeping a lid on things Geoff. You seem to be busying yourself with insignificant and extraneous issues whilst one of the largest development projects in the country chews through acres of natural habitat with your blessing. i'm struggling to take you seriously to be honest PageA
  • Score: -1

12:55pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
dannyb210 wrote:
the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions.

they wont look bad when adds cover them.
The tyres seem to be a temporary boundary screen for the site while it is being prepared for something else. This is quite common when such land owners take hold of their land and attempt to tidy it up, demolish existing buildings, prepare for rebuilding, build new accommodation, plant out formal and informal gardens or wildlife refuges and many other reasons. It is also common for posters, placards and banners to be placed on the boundary structures as you will no doubt have seen at locations all over the borough. I am sure that Mr. Moran, whom I have no contact or any relationship with will be savvy enough to understand the legal process involved in the work he is doing on his land. The legal position seems to me to be unclear to the council and other casual observers who only think that he might be transgressing in his current actions. The council's legal actions don't seem to have worked as Mr. Moran has challenged them and the wall of tyres remain.

All the protesters need, yes need, to come together and instigate a cohesive strategy if they are going to effect and change in Mr. Moran's actions, but so far and while everyone acts independently very little, if anything will happen, mark my words.
Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets we might have more money in the coffers and our most vulnerable would still be able to leave the house from time to time.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannyb210[/bold] wrote: the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions. they wont look bad when adds cover them.[/p][/quote]The tyres seem to be a temporary boundary screen for the site while it is being prepared for something else. This is quite common when such land owners take hold of their land and attempt to tidy it up, demolish existing buildings, prepare for rebuilding, build new accommodation, plant out formal and informal gardens or wildlife refuges and many other reasons. It is also common for posters, placards and banners to be placed on the boundary structures as you will no doubt have seen at locations all over the borough. I am sure that Mr. Moran, whom I have no contact or any relationship with will be savvy enough to understand the legal process involved in the work he is doing on his land. The legal position seems to me to be unclear to the council and other casual observers who only think that he might be transgressing in his current actions. The council's legal actions don't seem to have worked as Mr. Moran has challenged them and the wall of tyres remain. All the protesters need, yes need, to come together and instigate a cohesive strategy if they are going to effect and change in Mr. Moran's actions, but so far and while everyone acts independently very little, if anything will happen, mark my words.[/p][/quote]Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets we might have more money in the coffers and our most vulnerable would still be able to leave the house from time to time. PageA
  • Score: -3

1:07pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Mon 10 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

"Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets"

Isn't that what the Omega site is doing PageA and the whole of Westbrook prior to Omega?
"Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets" Isn't that what the Omega site is doing PageA and the whole of Westbrook prior to Omega? GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

1:35pm Mon 10 Mar 14

WH Smith says...

As mentioned by others the tyre wall is just a screen for what is going on behind. The material being brought in by vehicles is waste material, the site is effectively being used as a tip.

If you took the time to Google the name of the owner of the wall and site, you'll see that one of his businesses is based around the tipping of waste.

He appears to be well known to WBC, other sites in the borough which he or his businesses own have been used in the past as tips with/without consent.

I would suspect that he is well used to using planning tactics (good and bad tactics) to get what he wants and make lots of money out of tipping waste and spoil.

I have had a quick look to see if any planning permissions are in place to allow the site to be used as a tip, but I haven't found one - perhaps others might be able to turn something up on that front.
As mentioned by others the tyre wall is just a screen for what is going on behind. The material being brought in by vehicles is waste material, the site is effectively being used as a tip. If you took the time to Google the name of the owner of the wall and site, you'll see that one of his businesses is based around the tipping of waste. He appears to be well known to WBC, other sites in the borough which he or his businesses own have been used in the past as tips with/without consent. I would suspect that he is well used to using planning tactics (good and bad tactics) to get what he wants and make lots of money out of tipping waste and spoil. I have had a quick look to see if any planning permissions are in place to allow the site to be used as a tip, but I haven't found one - perhaps others might be able to turn something up on that front. WH Smith
  • Score: -1

1:40pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice.

That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.[/p][/quote]Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice. That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

1:45pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
"Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets"

Isn't that what the Omega site is doing PageA and the whole of Westbrook prior to Omega?
Yes Grumpy, my issue isn't the development, it's the double standards that I object to
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: "Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets" Isn't that what the Omega site is doing PageA and the whole of Westbrook prior to Omega?[/p][/quote]Yes Grumpy, my issue isn't the development, it's the double standards that I object to PageA
  • Score: -2

2:06pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
That's life in this town Geoff, you're correct. Councillors sit on any organisation that might develop the ability to think and act for itself. Where are the members of this organisation?? GROW SOME TEETH! or step aside and let people who care take your place. C'est la vie....the arrogance of the man
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.[/p][/quote]That's life in this town Geoff, you're correct. Councillors sit on any organisation that might develop the ability to think and act for itself. Where are the members of this organisation?? GROW SOME TEETH! or step aside and let people who care take your place. C'est la vie....the arrogance of the man PageA
  • Score: -3

2:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

WH Smith wrote:
As mentioned by others the tyre wall is just a screen for what is going on behind. The material being brought in by vehicles is waste material, the site is effectively being used as a tip.

If you took the time to Google the name of the owner of the wall and site, you'll see that one of his businesses is based around the tipping of waste.

He appears to be well known to WBC, other sites in the borough which he or his businesses own have been used in the past as tips with/without consent.

I would suspect that he is well used to using planning tactics (good and bad tactics) to get what he wants and make lots of money out of tipping waste and spoil.

I have had a quick look to see if any planning permissions are in place to allow the site to be used as a tip, but I haven't found one - perhaps others might be able to turn something up on that front.
Be good if the WG could confirm this to be the case. Your comment does seem to be trail by conjecture and hearsay..possibly libellous.
[quote][p][bold]WH Smith[/bold] wrote: As mentioned by others the tyre wall is just a screen for what is going on behind. The material being brought in by vehicles is waste material, the site is effectively being used as a tip. If you took the time to Google the name of the owner of the wall and site, you'll see that one of his businesses is based around the tipping of waste. He appears to be well known to WBC, other sites in the borough which he or his businesses own have been used in the past as tips with/without consent. I would suspect that he is well used to using planning tactics (good and bad tactics) to get what he wants and make lots of money out of tipping waste and spoil. I have had a quick look to see if any planning permissions are in place to allow the site to be used as a tip, but I haven't found one - perhaps others might be able to turn something up on that front.[/p][/quote]Be good if the WG could confirm this to be the case. Your comment does seem to be trail by conjecture and hearsay..possibly libellous. PageA
  • Score: -1

2:24pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

*trial*
*trial* PageA
  • Score: -3

3:25pm Mon 10 Mar 14

ninacatherine says...

It actually makes me laugh that a wall of tyres is the focus of so much debate! There's actually real news going on in the Town people!

The fault here lies with WBC - their planning officers don't know their **** from their elbow, take too long to make a planning decision and waste thousands of ££££s fighting battles that are better unfought because they're simply not in the interests of anyone. Funny how no action was taken against the landowner who demolished the listed building public house (the name of which fails me!) on Winwick Street without planning permission.

Had the council been reasonable regarding the land and been honest regarding it's use (they never declared it was a flood plain/meadow in the lot description at auction) then perhaps Mr Moran would not have to try and reap some rewards from being sold a useless, worthless piece of land.

And really what is the issue with the tyres? They're recycled so they're not causing an environmental issue. Yes they may be unsightly but quite frankly it's no worse than looking at what was there previously... it was waste land. Hurray for someone like Mr Moran trying to do something with it!
It actually makes me laugh that a wall of tyres is the focus of so much debate! There's actually real news going on in the Town people! The fault here lies with WBC - their planning officers don't know their **** from their elbow, take too long to make a planning decision and waste thousands of ££££s fighting battles that are better unfought because they're simply not in the interests of anyone. Funny how no action was taken against the landowner who demolished the listed building public house (the name of which fails me!) on Winwick Street without planning permission. Had the council been reasonable regarding the land and been honest regarding it's use (they never declared it was a flood plain/meadow in the lot description at auction) then perhaps Mr Moran would not have to try and reap some rewards from being sold a useless, worthless piece of land. And really what is the issue with the tyres? They're recycled so they're not causing an environmental issue. Yes they may be unsightly but quite frankly it's no worse than looking at what was there previously... it was waste land. Hurray for someone like Mr Moran trying to do something with it! ninacatherine
  • Score: -3

3:50pm Mon 10 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
"Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets"

Isn't that what the Omega site is doing PageA and the whole of Westbrook prior to Omega?
Yes Grumpy, my issue isn't the development, it's the double standards that I object to
I was just lonely not saying anything PageA that's the only reason I commented. I will leave you and sac to the intelligent comments. Told you before you get my vote!
Still Grumpy (though)
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: "Personally, I applaud his entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe if we had more people turning plots of land into income generating and taxable assets" Isn't that what the Omega site is doing PageA and the whole of Westbrook prior to Omega?[/p][/quote]Yes Grumpy, my issue isn't the development, it's the double standards that I object to[/p][/quote]I was just lonely not saying anything PageA that's the only reason I commented. I will leave you and sac to the intelligent comments. Told you before you get my vote! Still Grumpy (though) GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

4:09pm Mon 10 Mar 14

grey_man says...

dannyb210 wrote:
the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions.

they wont look bad when adds cover them.
Birds don't tend to nest in piles of tyres next to busy roads.

A pile of tyres covered in ads 'won't look too bad'. Where do you live? War-torn Barsra?
[quote][p][bold]dannyb210[/bold] wrote: the tyres would probably make good nesting sites for various birds and be a haven for insects........ they do look a bit minging yeah but this has seemed to have been blew up out of all proportions. they wont look bad when adds cover them.[/p][/quote]Birds don't tend to nest in piles of tyres next to busy roads. A pile of tyres covered in ads 'won't look too bad'. Where do you live? War-torn Barsra? grey_man
  • Score: 1

4:13pm Mon 10 Mar 14

grey_man says...

ninacatherine wrote:
It actually makes me laugh that a wall of tyres is the focus of so much debate! There's actually real news going on in the Town people!

The fault here lies with WBC - their planning officers don't know their **** from their elbow, take too long to make a planning decision and waste thousands of ££££s fighting battles that are better unfought because they're simply not in the interests of anyone. Funny how no action was taken against the landowner who demolished the listed building public house (the name of which fails me!) on Winwick Street without planning permission.

Had the council been reasonable regarding the land and been honest regarding it's use (they never declared it was a flood plain/meadow in the lot description at auction) then perhaps Mr Moran would not have to try and reap some rewards from being sold a useless, worthless piece of land.

And really what is the issue with the tyres? They're recycled so they're not causing an environmental issue. Yes they may be unsightly but quite frankly it's no worse than looking at what was there previously... it was waste land. Hurray for someone like Mr Moran trying to do something with it!
No wonder so many parts of Warrington are a dump. Hurray for somebody dumping a huge pile of tyres where they like?
[quote][p][bold]ninacatherine[/bold] wrote: It actually makes me laugh that a wall of tyres is the focus of so much debate! There's actually real news going on in the Town people! The fault here lies with WBC - their planning officers don't know their **** from their elbow, take too long to make a planning decision and waste thousands of ££££s fighting battles that are better unfought because they're simply not in the interests of anyone. Funny how no action was taken against the landowner who demolished the listed building public house (the name of which fails me!) on Winwick Street without planning permission. Had the council been reasonable regarding the land and been honest regarding it's use (they never declared it was a flood plain/meadow in the lot description at auction) then perhaps Mr Moran would not have to try and reap some rewards from being sold a useless, worthless piece of land. And really what is the issue with the tyres? They're recycled so they're not causing an environmental issue. Yes they may be unsightly but quite frankly it's no worse than looking at what was there previously... it was waste land. Hurray for someone like Mr Moran trying to do something with it![/p][/quote]No wonder so many parts of Warrington are a dump. Hurray for somebody dumping a huge pile of tyres where they like? grey_man
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice.

That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.
This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.[/p][/quote]Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice. That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.[/p][/quote]This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for? Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice.

That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.
This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?
I acknowledged the fact that you clearly stated your position. I'll leave it to the other Warrington Community Charge payers in the vicinity of the said site to decide if it is political or nor, the result though may surprise you. I must also remind you again that you are a public servant and as such have some responsibilities.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.[/p][/quote]Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice. That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.[/p][/quote]This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?[/p][/quote]I acknowledged the fact that you clearly stated your position. I'll leave it to the other Warrington Community Charge payers in the vicinity of the said site to decide if it is political or nor, the result though may surprise you. I must also remind you again that you are a public servant and as such have some responsibilities. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

6:49pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice.

That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.
This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?
I acknowledged the fact that you clearly stated your position. I'll leave it to the other Warrington Community Charge payers in the vicinity of the said site to decide if it is political or nor, the result though may surprise you. I must also remind you again that you are a public servant and as such have some responsibilities.
I don't need reminding of my responsibilities, especially from a namelss poster :-)
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.[/p][/quote]Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice. That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.[/p][/quote]This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?[/p][/quote]I acknowledged the fact that you clearly stated your position. I'll leave it to the other Warrington Community Charge payers in the vicinity of the said site to decide if it is political or nor, the result though may surprise you. I must also remind you again that you are a public servant and as such have some responsibilities.[/p][/quote]I don't need reminding of my responsibilities, especially from a namelss poster :-) Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out.
The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.
Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice.

That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.
This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?
I acknowledged the fact that you clearly stated your position. I'll leave it to the other Warrington Community Charge payers in the vicinity of the said site to decide if it is political or nor, the result though may surprise you. I must also remind you again that you are a public servant and as such have some responsibilities.
I don't need reminding of my responsibilities, especially from a namelss poster :-)
My name is irrelevant the fact that I am a Warrington Borough Council Community Charge payer surely permits me to offer you advice, critique your performance and your public actions. What are you actually disputing in my comments that so unsettles you? I will leave you to look at the question as a rhetorical question, so you've no need to reply.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: I feel I am becoming the story here and by definition my time must now be running out. The WNCF does keep an eye on planning issues and individual members can and do take views. The members have taken a decision that we will only fight planning applications once we have discussed an application and voted on it. If after that vote the majority are in favour of fighting it then they will instruct the committee to do so. So far this has only happened in the case of Rixton Clay Pigeon Shoot, we didn't for the Peel Hall - Satnam - I did that as an individual and formed a committee of local residents to form the Fight Against Peel Hall Development - it affected my constituents. As far as Omega is concerened the members haven't formed a collective view on it - this doesn't mean that some of them are not raising issues - and it has been raised but no collective action was called for. Another common feeling throughout the membership is that we stick to the primary aims of ther WNCF constitution - we are not an activist group but a forum for Nature Conservation. We do welcome new members. I do wear as I have said many hats and I always declare when conflicts may or may not occur. If you don't like my strategy or approach then C'est la vie.[/p][/quote]Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice. That was a good critique from Page A and you just dismissed it out of hand, take note of what he said and step up, It will get you more votes in the next election that you are a candidate in.[/p][/quote]This isn't about politics - I've explained my position which you clearly don't understand or accept - instead of posting on here why not go and register your views with the WBc enforcement officer that's what he's there for?[/p][/quote]I acknowledged the fact that you clearly stated your position. I'll leave it to the other Warrington Community Charge payers in the vicinity of the said site to decide if it is political or nor, the result though may surprise you. I must also remind you again that you are a public servant and as such have some responsibilities.[/p][/quote]I don't need reminding of my responsibilities, especially from a namelss poster :-)[/p][/quote]My name is irrelevant the fact that I am a Warrington Borough Council Community Charge payer surely permits me to offer you advice, critique your performance and your public actions. What are you actually disputing in my comments that so unsettles you? I will leave you to look at the question as a rhetorical question, so you've no need to reply. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

7:25pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Are yor critique is?
Are yor critique is? Geoff Settle
  • Score: 2

7:31pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Are yor critique is?
You might want to rephrase that question Councillor,
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Are yor critique is?[/p][/quote]You might want to rephrase that question Councillor, SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

7:35pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Ok SAC - your CRITIQUE is?
Ok SAC - your CRITIQUE is? Geoff Settle
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Ok SAC - your CRITIQUE is?
I will repeat what I said before: Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice.
&
OK, I see then that you have insurmountable risks to contend with additionally you have clearly stated your limitations of any usefulness. That is now crystal clear and that you are distancing yourself from this Municipal and metaphorical hot potato. Thank you Geoff for doing that.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Ok SAC - your CRITIQUE is?[/p][/quote]I will repeat what I said before: Fight or Flight Geoff, that is your right. A reasonable debate on this comments site is now above your personal standard. You have put yourself in the frame, so as a public servant, do the job you were elected for, invoke the moral fibre that you were brought up with and don't water down your political principles is my advice. & OK, I see then that you have insurmountable risks to contend with additionally you have clearly stated your limitations of any usefulness. That is now crystal clear and that you are distancing yourself from this Municipal and metaphorical hot potato. Thank you Geoff for doing that. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -3

8:26pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

And your expertise for this critique are?
And your expertise for this critique are? Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

8:38pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
And your expertise for this critique are?
Over 40 years experience working in and with Local and Municipal Government institutions. Campainiour for public welfare and social inclusion, Chair and secretary of three local institutions in the past. A union official based at branch office, to name but a few relevant experiences and a an experienced effective public servant also.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: And your expertise for this critique are?[/p][/quote]Over 40 years experience working in and with Local and Municipal Government institutions. Campainiour for public welfare and social inclusion, Chair and secretary of three local institutions in the past. A union official based at branch office, to name but a few relevant experiences and a an experienced effective public servant also. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

8:47pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-) Geoff Settle
  • Score: 1

8:55pm Mon 10 Mar 14

grey-area says...

Apart from it being an eyesore, what is the actual crime here?

And the power generating site isn't actually a pretty view. This tyre wall is not next to the twiggery either.
Apart from it being an eyesore, what is the actual crime here? And the power generating site isn't actually a pretty view. This tyre wall is not next to the twiggery either. grey-area
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
And I was proposing that the protesters should form an action group in order to coordinate a coherent strategy. and make their voices heard and their reasoned opinion taken into consideration. However this action doesn't seem to be happening, so the metaphorical game of chess between Mr. Moran an Warrington Borough Council continues unabated, with no resolution for the people who have objections an live in the area.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]And I was proposing that the protesters should form an action group in order to coordinate a coherent strategy. and make their voices heard and their reasoned opinion taken into consideration. However this action doesn't seem to be happening, so the metaphorical game of chess between Mr. Moran an Warrington Borough Council continues unabated, with no resolution for the people who have objections an live in the area. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

9:36pm Mon 10 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be. PageA
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.
And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier.
Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought.
My constituents come first and foremost and always will do.
Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.[/p][/quote]And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier. Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought. My constituents come first and foremost and always will do. Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book. Geoff Settle
  • Score: -2

10:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
And I was proposing that the protesters should form an action group in order to coordinate a coherent strategy. and make their voices heard and their reasoned opinion taken into consideration. However this action doesn't seem to be happening, so the metaphorical game of chess between Mr. Moran an Warrington Borough Council continues unabated, with no resolution for the people who have objections an live in the area.
Well when I was in your position with a threat to my ward I helped the residents form a committee, we delivered over a 1,000 leaflets, wrote press releases, started up a Facebook page and held meetings. It's very hard work and there is no guarentee of a successful outcome but we won the appeal. However on another occasion we didn't - an appeal is in the laps of the inspector you just have to work very hard at getting the evidence.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]And I was proposing that the protesters should form an action group in order to coordinate a coherent strategy. and make their voices heard and their reasoned opinion taken into consideration. However this action doesn't seem to be happening, so the metaphorical game of chess between Mr. Moran an Warrington Borough Council continues unabated, with no resolution for the people who have objections an live in the area.[/p][/quote]Well when I was in your position with a threat to my ward I helped the residents form a committee, we delivered over a 1,000 leaflets, wrote press releases, started up a Facebook page and held meetings. It's very hard work and there is no guarentee of a successful outcome but we won the appeal. However on another occasion we didn't - an appeal is in the laps of the inspector you just have to work very hard at getting the evidence. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

10:29pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.
And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier.
Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought.
My constituents come first and foremost and always will do.
Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.
I suspect that the party whip and leader has much more sway than your voters and certainly even less consideration for your non-political party voters. I therefore suggest that your constituents do not come first. C'est la vie politique de l'administration locale au Royaume-Uni.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.[/p][/quote]And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier. Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought. My constituents come first and foremost and always will do. Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.[/p][/quote]I suspect that the party whip and leader has much more sway than your voters and certainly even less consideration for your non-political party voters. I therefore suggest that your constituents do not come first. C'est la vie politique de l'administration locale au Royaume-Uni. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

7:35am Tue 11 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.
And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier.
Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought.
My constituents come first and foremost and always will do.
Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.
I suspect that the party whip and leader has much more sway than your voters and certainly even less consideration for your non-political party voters. I therefore suggest that your constituents do not come first. C'est la vie politique de l'administration locale au Royaume-Uni.
Thanks for your tarnish and shallow reply, you can think what you want - again where is your evidence - happy to meet you face to face on the site to explore :-)
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.[/p][/quote]And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier. Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought. My constituents come first and foremost and always will do. Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.[/p][/quote]I suspect that the party whip and leader has much more sway than your voters and certainly even less consideration for your non-political party voters. I therefore suggest that your constituents do not come first. C'est la vie politique de l'administration locale au Royaume-Uni.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your tarnish and shallow reply, you can think what you want - again where is your evidence - happy to meet you face to face on the site to explore :-) Geoff Settle
  • Score: -1

8:09am Tue 11 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.
And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier.
Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought.
My constituents come first and foremost and always will do.
Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.
No doubt you keep yourself busy Geoff, most busy fools do. No I don't want to meet you face to face either.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.[/p][/quote]And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier. Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought. My constituents come first and foremost and always will do. Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.[/p][/quote]No doubt you keep yourself busy Geoff, most busy fools do. No I don't want to meet you face to face either. PageA
  • Score: -1

8:54am Tue 11 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Well thanks for the cutting remark a person of your alledged experience obviously doesn't meet people to discuss issues that matter to them and others. Your attitude clearly sums up well and truely :-(
It's about time you started a more productive chapter and or turned to page B.
Well thanks for the cutting remark a person of your alledged experience obviously doesn't meet people to discuss issues that matter to them and others. Your attitude clearly sums up well and truely :-( It's about time you started a more productive chapter and or turned to page B. Geoff Settle
  • Score: -1

9:15am Tue 11 Mar 14

grey_man says...

You're wasting your time Geoff.

SAC is a WUM
You're wasting your time Geoff. SAC is a WUM grey_man
  • Score: -1

9:22am Tue 11 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)
This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.
And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier.
Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought.
My constituents come first and foremost and always will do.
Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.
I suspect that the party whip and leader has much more sway than your voters and certainly even less consideration for your non-political party voters. I therefore suggest that your constituents do not come first. C'est la vie politique de l'administration locale au Royaume-Uni.
Thanks for your tarnish and shallow reply, you can think what you want - again where is your evidence - happy to meet you face to face on the site to explore :-)
So you do recognise the scenario I described and the truth hurts. You are in the real world of party driven politics and not constituent driven as you erroneously stated and apparently still seen to believe. As evidenced from what you say and do. You are a puppet for your political party and not the public servant of your constituents. That is the compromise you and all the local and the national party politicians are clearly dealing with. There was one recent exception and he was set upon and placed into political isolation by his so called colleague party leaders and fellow councillors.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Then you should clearly understand the planning and enforcement process and be well equiped to put your expertise to effective use or if not you will know somone who can. Rest assured I will be monitoring the situation closley and watching any developments ready to take any action that I think appropriate without compromising my position :-)[/p][/quote]This is exactly my point. You are so preoccupied with compromising your position as a member of the local Labour Party that you can't possibly be effective in your other roles...and as a result these important areas suffer. It's not about the action that you feel appropriate without compromising your position...it's about doing what's right for the cause, whatever that cause may be.[/p][/quote]And your evidence is what just supposition – just got back from case work that had to be done during the night, this afternoon I was on a local primary school finance committee scrutinising the forthcoming budget whilst this morning I was doing correspondence – other days are even busier. Just because I don’t jump to your back and call means nought. My constituents come first and foremost and always will do. Why don’t you turn over a new leaf in your book.[/p][/quote]I suspect that the party whip and leader has much more sway than your voters and certainly even less consideration for your non-political party voters. I therefore suggest that your constituents do not come first. C'est la vie politique de l'administration locale au Royaume-Uni.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your tarnish and shallow reply, you can think what you want - again where is your evidence - happy to meet you face to face on the site to explore :-)[/p][/quote]So you do recognise the scenario I described and the truth hurts. You are in the real world of party driven politics and not constituent driven as you erroneously stated and apparently still seen to believe. As evidenced from what you say and do. You are a puppet for your political party and not the public servant of your constituents. That is the compromise you and all the local and the national party politicians are clearly dealing with. There was one recent exception and he was set upon and placed into political isolation by his so called colleague party leaders and fellow councillors. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

9:33am Tue 11 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey_man wrote:
You're wasting your time Geoff.

SAC is a WUM
Truth will out. Truth and justice go hand in hand, grey_man, are you not a supporter of this moral standard?
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: You're wasting your time Geoff. SAC is a WUM[/p][/quote]Truth will out. Truth and justice go hand in hand, grey_man, are you not a supporter of this moral standard? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

9:35am Tue 11 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

grey_man wrote:
You're wasting your time Geoff.

SAC is a WUM
What's a WUM?
[quote][p][bold]grey_man[/bold] wrote: You're wasting your time Geoff. SAC is a WUM[/p][/quote]What's a WUM? GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

9:40am Tue 11 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

So now lets hope that the Party Political Broadcast is finished and the views of the people affected by Mr. Moran's activities on his site can get their words on this comment stream.
So now lets hope that the Party Political Broadcast is finished and the views of the people affected by Mr. Moran's activities on his site can get their words on this comment stream. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -1

9:49am Tue 11 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
Well thanks for the cutting remark a person of your alledged experience obviously doesn't meet people to discuss issues that matter to them and others. Your attitude clearly sums up well and truely :-(
It's about time you started a more productive chapter and or turned to page B.
Funny that with my name, I see what you did there. It wasn't meant as a cutting remark. The Busy Fool is, he is someone who spends a great deal of time working hard (in many cases, doing a good job,) but often ends up with little to show for his efforts. I myself am one from time to time. The problem is this. You keep appearing representing pretty much every organisation in the town just before or as it's being di**ed on. I think that you are stopping people with real passion coming through. You have no interest in developing a conservation org with its own drive and opinion because ultimately it will turn upon you and your party. You have turned the group into a tick box. Omega was your moment to shine, but you chose not to embarass your party by voicing a public opinion. You objected to the dial a ride cuts..but very secretly..in your very own special and ineffectual way. If you care about conservation in Warrington then allow someone who is capable of publically asking difficult questions take the lead. That's the only way it can work
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: Well thanks for the cutting remark a person of your alledged experience obviously doesn't meet people to discuss issues that matter to them and others. Your attitude clearly sums up well and truely :-( It's about time you started a more productive chapter and or turned to page B.[/p][/quote]Funny that with my name, I see what you did there. It wasn't meant as a cutting remark. The Busy Fool is, he is someone who spends a great deal of time working hard (in many cases, doing a good job,) but often ends up with little to show for his efforts. I myself am one from time to time. The problem is this. You keep appearing representing pretty much every organisation in the town just before or as it's being di**ed on. I think that you are stopping people with real passion coming through. You have no interest in developing a conservation org with its own drive and opinion because ultimately it will turn upon you and your party. You have turned the group into a tick box. Omega was your moment to shine, but you chose not to embarass your party by voicing a public opinion. You objected to the dial a ride cuts..but very secretly..in your very own special and ineffectual way. If you care about conservation in Warrington then allow someone who is capable of publically asking difficult questions take the lead. That's the only way it can work PageA
  • Score: 1

12:11pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

:-)
:-) Geoff Settle
  • Score: -2

2:13pm Tue 11 Mar 14

PageA says...

Geoff Settle wrote:
:-)
If a smirk was an argument. You'd win... every time
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: :-)[/p][/quote]If a smirk was an argument. You'd win... every time PageA
  • Score: 2

2:47pm Tue 11 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
Geoff Settle wrote:
:-)
If a smirk was an argument. You'd win... every time
If I had sac and you on my case I think I would smile, run and hide like Mr Settle too!
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Geoff Settle[/bold] wrote: :-)[/p][/quote]If a smirk was an argument. You'd win... every time[/p][/quote]If I had sac and you on my case I think I would smile, run and hide like Mr Settle too! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 0

6:26pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

Ok grumps :-)
Ok grumps :-) Geoff Settle
  • Score: -1

10:31am Wed 12 Mar 14

fatbelly says...

These Tyres are an Eyesore & I sincerely hope the Council win the case & get the Land Owner to remove them. By putting therm there the Owner was trying to make a fast Buck to the detriment of others. If they are no problem then why doesn't the Owner have them where he lives. As for it taking 8 weeks to build, I pass that area twice a day and from memory they appeared almost overnight.
These Tyres are an Eyesore & I sincerely hope the Council win the case & get the Land Owner to remove them. By putting therm there the Owner was trying to make a fast Buck to the detriment of others. If they are no problem then why doesn't the Owner have them where he lives. As for it taking 8 weeks to build, I pass that area twice a day and from memory they appeared almost overnight. fatbelly
  • Score: 1

4:05pm Mon 17 Mar 14

muckerman says...

Oh dear, someone has ripped off the big advert. Still, glad nobody has set fire to them. That would be awful.
Oh dear, someone has ripped off the big advert. Still, glad nobody has set fire to them. That would be awful. muckerman
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Mon 17 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

fatbelly wrote:
These Tyres are an Eyesore & I sincerely hope the Council win the case & get the Land Owner to remove them. By putting therm there the Owner was trying to make a fast Buck to the detriment of others. If they are no problem then why doesn't the Owner have them where he lives. As for it taking 8 weeks to build, I pass that area twice a day and from memory they appeared almost overnight.
Where, what and to whom was he causing damage, harm, or loss?
[quote][p][bold]fatbelly[/bold] wrote: These Tyres are an Eyesore & I sincerely hope the Council win the case & get the Land Owner to remove them. By putting therm there the Owner was trying to make a fast Buck to the detriment of others. If they are no problem then why doesn't the Owner have them where he lives. As for it taking 8 weeks to build, I pass that area twice a day and from memory they appeared almost overnight.[/p][/quote]Where, what and to whom was he causing damage, harm, or loss? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Wed 26 Mar 14

grey-area says...

It's still there. Can't wait for the next instalment. How speedily the council act when they need to, as another month rolls by.
It's still there. Can't wait for the next instalment. How speedily the council act when they need to, as another month rolls by. grey-area
  • Score: 0

8:57am Thu 27 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

See yesterday's press release http://www.warringto
n-worldwide.co.uk/ar
ticles/17958/1/Counc
il-doing-all-it-can-
on-eyesore-tyre-wall
/Page1.html
See yesterday's press release http://www.warringto n-worldwide.co.uk/ar ticles/17958/1/Counc il-doing-all-it-can- on-eyesore-tyre-wall /Page1.html Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

11:08am Thu 27 Mar 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

So basically there is nothing further that the council can do. There seems to be nothing that Cheshire Fire and Rescue Service or the Health and Safety Executive can do, nothing more that the Environment agency or Northwest Water can do etc. ad infinitum.
So basically there is nothing further that the council can do. There seems to be nothing that Cheshire Fire and Rescue Service or the Health and Safety Executive can do, nothing more that the Environment agency or Northwest Water can do etc. ad infinitum. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Geoff Settle says...

What can be done is being done within the law - obviously unlawful action could be taken but I would suggest that it would be counter productive.
What can be done is being done within the law - obviously unlawful action could be taken but I would suggest that it would be counter productive. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

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