UPDATED: Residents have their say over Arpley tip row

UPDATED: Residents have their say over Arpley tip row

The protest

The tip

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RESIDENTS finally had the chance to make their feelings clear to tip bosses over the Sankey Bridges landfill site once described as the ‘neighbour from hell’.

An inquiry, held after a 12 year extension for Arpley landfill was turned down in January 2013, came to a close on Wednesday but not before homeowners who claimed their lives have been ‘blighted’ by the site got the chance to have their say.

Mums, dads and residents who have lived near the site for more than 20 years spoke passionately about ‘plagues of flies’, ‘disgusting, pungent’ smells, speeding lorries, dust clogging up their homes and claimed they had been treated with ‘contempt’ by the tip operators.

Clr Robert Hardie, from Walton Parish Council added the waste wagons travelling to and from the site ‘all deserved ASBOs for their habits’ and excuses why FCC could not chase seagulls away from the site showed further contempt.

Tensions had also been mounting after tip operators had claimed the majority of complaints over odours had been ‘unsubstantiated’ and had stopped once plans for an extension had been turned down.

Campaigner Norman Crompton, who has lived on Saxon Park since 2006, angrily replied: “Your only interest is self-interest.

“You have never engaged with the residents and it’s particularly disgraceful you’re attempting to make out all of our complaints are anything but genuine.

“Residents shouldn’t have to be the one patrolling our roads and when I have written to FCC about speeding the reply I often get back tells me I’m mistaken.

“I have better things to do with my life than having to prove landfill vehicles are speeding.”

He added roads around the tip had been cleaned for the first time by operators ahead of the planning inspector visiting the site.

Warrington South MP David Mowat also spoke at the hearing and said it was becoming ‘increasingly unacceptable for councils to treat Warrington as a repository’ while clr Pat Wright said residents had been subjected for long enough to ‘HGVs full of foul smelling waste’.

THROUGHOUT the three week hearing, tip operators FCC has claimed there is a need for Arpley landfill but Warrington Borough Council representatives have said their case is ‘flawed’.
In closing submissions on Wednesday morning, David Manley said the area the tip covered had grown dramatically with FCC now planning to take waste from as far as Blackburn, Macclesfield, Chester and Ellesmere Port.
A further 300,000 tonnes of rubbish could also be sent to Arpley from outside this area.
Mr Manley added: "No evidence has addressed the network of landfill sites capable of serving that area."
He also said FCC had known for a long time permission to continue tipping at the site would run out in 2013 and a restoration scheme should have been in place.

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8:15am Wed 5 Mar 14

dannyb210 says...

Campaigner Norman Crompton, who has lived on Saxon Park since 2006, angrily replied: “Your only interest is self-interest.

Stuff like this makes me angry..... this bloke moves to Saxon Park which comes with unrivaled views of the tip, then decides he doesnt want to live near the tip so starts complaints about it.

Sorry to say mate but you shouldnt have moved there in the first place if you were not prepared to live near the landfill.
Campaigner Norman Crompton, who has lived on Saxon Park since 2006, angrily replied: “Your only interest is self-interest. Stuff like this makes me angry..... this bloke moves to Saxon Park which comes with unrivaled views of the tip, then decides he doesnt want to live near the tip so starts complaints about it. Sorry to say mate but you shouldnt have moved there in the first place if you were not prepared to live near the landfill. dannyb210
  • Score: 2

9:48am Wed 5 Mar 14

moleogod says...

dannyb210 wrote:
Campaigner Norman Crompton, who has lived on Saxon Park since 2006, angrily replied: “Your only interest is self-interest.

Stuff like this makes me angry..... this bloke moves to Saxon Park which comes with unrivaled views of the tip, then decides he doesnt want to live near the tip so starts complaints about it.

Sorry to say mate but you shouldnt have moved there in the first place if you were not prepared to live near the landfill.
You clearly do not have the full facts. over 25 years ago the landfill was created without asking the people of sankey bridges that's old Liverpool road and surrounding areas NOT saxon park yet as it was not even built yet. the tip was meant to CLOSE in oct 2013 that's when the contract ran out and it was meant to be left in a safe contained manor so covered over blah blah.. so the thousands of people who bought houses on saxon park where told by the council and estate agents oh don't worry the problems will be gone in a few years.. and so millions of pounds of property was sold on the new saxon park estate. the owners of the landfill are ILEAGALY dumping waste at the moment they have no licence they are in the wrong. they just want to continue to dump there as it makes them money and have blow off all complaints since the 80s from the people of sankey bridges who where not even told about the landfill and they already had houses in the area before the landfill came to be. most if the complaints are from all of sankey bridges not just saxon park. so is it the fault of the people of sankey bridges for not being able to predict the future... this company are just bullies. and by not honouring there contract are insulting all of Warrington. thanks for your support...
[quote][p][bold]dannyb210[/bold] wrote: Campaigner Norman Crompton, who has lived on Saxon Park since 2006, angrily replied: “Your only interest is self-interest. Stuff like this makes me angry..... this bloke moves to Saxon Park which comes with unrivaled views of the tip, then decides he doesnt want to live near the tip so starts complaints about it. Sorry to say mate but you shouldnt have moved there in the first place if you were not prepared to live near the landfill.[/p][/quote]You clearly do not have the full facts. over 25 years ago the landfill was created without asking the people of sankey bridges that's old Liverpool road and surrounding areas NOT saxon park yet as it was not even built yet. the tip was meant to CLOSE in oct 2013 that's when the contract ran out and it was meant to be left in a safe contained manor so covered over blah blah.. so the thousands of people who bought houses on saxon park where told by the council and estate agents oh don't worry the problems will be gone in a few years.. and so millions of pounds of property was sold on the new saxon park estate. the owners of the landfill are ILEAGALY dumping waste at the moment they have no licence they are in the wrong. they just want to continue to dump there as it makes them money and have blow off all complaints since the 80s from the people of sankey bridges who where not even told about the landfill and they already had houses in the area before the landfill came to be. most if the complaints are from all of sankey bridges not just saxon park. so is it the fault of the people of sankey bridges for not being able to predict the future... this company are just bullies. and by not honouring there contract are insulting all of Warrington. thanks for your support... moleogod
  • Score: -1

9:54am Wed 5 Mar 14

MummaPea says...

My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.
My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments. MummaPea
  • Score: 4

10:08am Wed 5 Mar 14

warrington_biker says...

Suprises me that no-one has blocked the road yet. If the landfill site has no license to operate, what laws are broken by effectively stopping people gaining access. None that I can see.

If they gain access without a license, isn't it regarded as fly tipping?
Suprises me that no-one has blocked the road yet. If the landfill site has no license to operate, what laws are broken by effectively stopping people gaining access. None that I can see. If they gain access without a license, isn't it regarded as fly tipping? warrington_biker
  • Score: -1

11:35am Wed 5 Mar 14

fedster says...

MummaPea wrote:
My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.
then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions.

iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside
[quote][p][bold]MummaPea[/bold] wrote: My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.[/p][/quote]then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions. iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside fedster
  • Score: 0

1:09pm Wed 5 Mar 14

moleogod says...

fedster wrote:
MummaPea wrote:
My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.
then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions.

iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside
it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MummaPea[/bold] wrote: My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.[/p][/quote]then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions. iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside[/p][/quote]it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue moleogod
  • Score: -1

7:12pm Wed 5 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

moleogod wrote:
fedster wrote:
MummaPea wrote:
My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.
then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions.

iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside
it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue
Have you anything in writing from the builder, estate agent etc. There is also a law, I believe, that you can not sell a property if knowingly you (or estate agent) know of a problem neighbour without for warning a potential purchaser. Not sure if this is still applicable it has been a long time. Not also sure if this law could be exploited in this particular case but worth a look. If you purchased a property in this location and was told the tip would eventually close in 2013 and didn't get that in writing then sorry put up and shut up!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]moleogod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MummaPea[/bold] wrote: My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.[/p][/quote]then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions. iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside[/p][/quote]it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue[/p][/quote]Have you anything in writing from the builder, estate agent etc. There is also a law, I believe, that you can not sell a property if knowingly you (or estate agent) know of a problem neighbour without for warning a potential purchaser. Not sure if this is still applicable it has been a long time. Not also sure if this law could be exploited in this particular case but worth a look. If you purchased a property in this location and was told the tip would eventually close in 2013 and didn't get that in writing then sorry put up and shut up! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 1

7:44pm Wed 5 Mar 14

moleogod says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
moleogod wrote:
fedster wrote:
MummaPea wrote:
My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.
then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions.

iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside
it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue
Have you anything in writing from the builder, estate agent etc. There is also a law, I believe, that you can not sell a property if knowingly you (or estate agent) know of a problem neighbour without for warning a potential purchaser. Not sure if this is still applicable it has been a long time. Not also sure if this law could be exploited in this particular case but worth a look. If you purchased a property in this location and was told the tip would eventually close in 2013 and didn't get that in writing then sorry put up and shut up!
Still Grumpy
there was no problem at the time. the landfill was there everyone accepted that. peoples idea was to put up with it for a few years and then after that it will slowly get better but at the time when houses where bought and sold no one knew that FFC the landfill owners where going to do this years down the line.. everyone on this estate has looked into this on mass believe me.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moleogod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MummaPea[/bold] wrote: My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.[/p][/quote]then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions. iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside[/p][/quote]it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue[/p][/quote]Have you anything in writing from the builder, estate agent etc. There is also a law, I believe, that you can not sell a property if knowingly you (or estate agent) know of a problem neighbour without for warning a potential purchaser. Not sure if this is still applicable it has been a long time. Not also sure if this law could be exploited in this particular case but worth a look. If you purchased a property in this location and was told the tip would eventually close in 2013 and didn't get that in writing then sorry put up and shut up! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]there was no problem at the time. the landfill was there everyone accepted that. peoples idea was to put up with it for a few years and then after that it will slowly get better but at the time when houses where bought and sold no one knew that FFC the landfill owners where going to do this years down the line.. everyone on this estate has looked into this on mass believe me. moleogod
  • Score: -1

8:02pm Wed 5 Mar 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

moleogod wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
moleogod wrote:
fedster wrote:
MummaPea wrote:
My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.
then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions.

iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside
it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue
Have you anything in writing from the builder, estate agent etc. There is also a law, I believe, that you can not sell a property if knowingly you (or estate agent) know of a problem neighbour without for warning a potential purchaser. Not sure if this is still applicable it has been a long time. Not also sure if this law could be exploited in this particular case but worth a look. If you purchased a property in this location and was told the tip would eventually close in 2013 and didn't get that in writing then sorry put up and shut up!
Still Grumpy
there was no problem at the time. the landfill was there everyone accepted that. peoples idea was to put up with it for a few years and then after that it will slowly get better but at the time when houses where bought and sold no one knew that FFC the landfill owners where going to do this years down the line.. everyone on this estate has looked into this on mass believe me.
Well I can only say good luck as you are now going up against the big boy's WBC and FCC, lets just hope WBC can sort this mess out. Personally I believe this will be an ongoing issue until the Government gets involved I have no faith in WBC to sort this out nor the ship canal problem (if it is a problem) the problem is it will cost millions of our money to do so. I hope you get a result soon (with summer very close) and WBC sort this out for God's sake Warrington has had enough!!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]moleogod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moleogod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MummaPea[/bold] wrote: My Mum bought a house on Saxon Park & did so on the understanding that the tip would be closed within a few years. It's not a case of they shouldn't have moved next to the tip if they didn't want to be near it, it's a case of the tip should not be there anymore. They're asking for a ridiculously lengthy extension & to top it all off, it's not even waste from Warrington! Please at least have all relevant information before making such comments.[/p][/quote]then its obvious to sue those who sold the properties for selling under false conditions. iam betting if a handful tried this the company would stick a lighting bolt up wc backside[/p][/quote]it was not false at the time. its the landfill owners who are now at fault. no claim i'm afraid. I have already looked down his avenue[/p][/quote]Have you anything in writing from the builder, estate agent etc. There is also a law, I believe, that you can not sell a property if knowingly you (or estate agent) know of a problem neighbour without for warning a potential purchaser. Not sure if this is still applicable it has been a long time. Not also sure if this law could be exploited in this particular case but worth a look. If you purchased a property in this location and was told the tip would eventually close in 2013 and didn't get that in writing then sorry put up and shut up! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]there was no problem at the time. the landfill was there everyone accepted that. peoples idea was to put up with it for a few years and then after that it will slowly get better but at the time when houses where bought and sold no one knew that FFC the landfill owners where going to do this years down the line.. everyone on this estate has looked into this on mass believe me.[/p][/quote]Well I can only say good luck as you are now going up against the big boy's WBC and FCC, lets just hope WBC can sort this mess out. Personally I believe this will be an ongoing issue until the Government gets involved I have no faith in WBC to sort this out nor the ship canal problem (if it is a problem) the problem is it will cost millions of our money to do so. I hope you get a result soon (with summer very close) and WBC sort this out for God's sake Warrington has had enough!! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 2

12:02am Thu 6 Mar 14

Dellman says...

Sorry, grumpy, but you need to get with it. WBC opposed it but it's out of WBC control now, and the Government will get involved - the Secretary of State for the Environment takes fhe final decision.
Sorry, grumpy, but you need to get with it. WBC opposed it but it's out of WBC control now, and the Government will get involved - the Secretary of State for the Environment takes fhe final decision. Dellman
  • Score: 4

5:01pm Thu 6 Mar 14

moleogod says...

i really wish the owners of the Landfill would stop coming on this site and putting thumbs downs its very childish.
i really wish the owners of the Landfill would stop coming on this site and putting thumbs downs its very childish. moleogod
  • Score: 0

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