Arpley tip bosses say 'only one genuine complaint' over rubbish smells

Arpley tip bosses say 'only one genuine complaint' over rubbish smells

Protests at the inquiry last week

Arpley tip bosses say 'only one substantiated complaints' over rubbish smells

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ARPLEY tip operators have claimed there has only been one substantiated complaint over odours coming from the site in the last two years.

Figures read out during an inquiry over the Sankey Bridges landfill site found 25 complaints were found to be smells not coming from Arpley and on 101 occasions there was no evidence to suggest a site visit had been made to investigate the claims.

The statistics will anger residents who have repeatedly complained over smells, flies and traffic around the site leading to plans for a 12-year extension being turned down in January 2013.

The inquiry, which will be concluded next week, also heard complaints were made to environmental health in January last year but there were none between February and July until tip bosses FCC submitted an appeal.

Paul Tucker, representing the tip operators, added: “One interpretation of the figures is that when people learnt the planning application had been refused the complaints stopped and when the appeal was made they started again.

“I would suggest that points in my client’s favour and complaints were motivated by people wanting to express their opposition to the planning application and appeal.”

Mr Tucker also read from an e-mail where a member of council staff said it was ‘making life easier’ for FCC getting only a few complaints and also asked for clarification over whether a letter had been sent out encouraging residents to complain.

He said it was a clear attempt to generate complaints.

Environmental health officer Stephen Smith, speaking at the end of last week, said it was quite possible after the refusal was granted people relaxed thinking the site was set to close.

Throughout this week representatives from the tip operators have been giving evidence.

Nicholas Blake, from site operations, was cross-examined on Tuesday and agreed there was the capacity in Manchester to meet the area’s landfill needs until 2025 if Arpley was to close.

On Tuesday, Warrington South MP David Mowat will be speaking as a witness alongside clr Pat Wright before closing submissions on Wednesday.

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9:17am Wed 26 Feb 14

Wire-not-wolves says...

Once the tip closes are residents going to turn their attention to the sewage treatment plant? Plenty of flies and smells from there. And then maybe the cement plant. Then Lever Bros....
Once the tip closes are residents going to turn their attention to the sewage treatment plant? Plenty of flies and smells from there. And then maybe the cement plant. Then Lever Bros.... Wire-not-wolves
  • Score: 1

9:40am Wed 26 Feb 14

Star1307 says...

I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.
I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done. Star1307
  • Score: -1

3:08pm Wed 26 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Star1307 wrote:
I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.
The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.
[quote][p][bold]Star1307[/bold] wrote: I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.[/p][/quote]The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Karlar says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Star1307 wrote:
I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.
The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.
Your unsympathetic comments will go down like a lead ballon with all the people who have suffered flood damage during the recent once in a hundred years bad weather, that seems to be cropping up with much shorter regularity. Don't you think those who build and those who allow them to build houses on flood plains have to accept some responsibility as well?
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Star1307[/bold] wrote: I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.[/p][/quote]The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.[/p][/quote]Your unsympathetic comments will go down like a lead ballon with all the people who have suffered flood damage during the recent once in a hundred years bad weather, that seems to be cropping up with much shorter regularity. Don't you think those who build and those who allow them to build houses on flood plains have to accept some responsibility as well? Karlar
  • Score: -6

4:48pm Wed 26 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Karlar wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Star1307 wrote:
I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.
The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.
Your unsympathetic comments will go down like a lead ballon with all the people who have suffered flood damage during the recent once in a hundred years bad weather, that seems to be cropping up with much shorter regularity. Don't you think those who build and those who allow them to build houses on flood plains have to accept some responsibility as well?
Everyone is blaming the tip Karlar but where is the house builder now! I am not unsympathetic at all, I fully back the closure of this tip but you can not buy a property next to something that once you have moved into complain about it. They knew what they were buying and where it was don't complain now your living their and suffering the consequences of your poor judgement. And don't give me once in a hundred years bad weather we had the same last year! We will also, probably, even get it worse next year! If you were sold this property with the assurance that the tip was to be closed in 2013 and the tip as yet hasn't, then sue the house builder Or as you suggest those "who allow them to build", that would be WBC then, sue them.
[quote][p][bold]Karlar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Star1307[/bold] wrote: I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.[/p][/quote]The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.[/p][/quote]Your unsympathetic comments will go down like a lead ballon with all the people who have suffered flood damage during the recent once in a hundred years bad weather, that seems to be cropping up with much shorter regularity. Don't you think those who build and those who allow them to build houses on flood plains have to accept some responsibility as well?[/p][/quote]Everyone is blaming the tip Karlar but where is the house builder now! I am not unsympathetic at all, I fully back the closure of this tip but you can not buy a property next to something that once you have moved into complain about it. They knew what they were buying and where it was don't complain now your living their and suffering the consequences of your poor judgement. And don't give me once in a hundred years bad weather we had the same last year! We will also, probably, even get it worse next year! If you were sold this property with the assurance that the tip was to be closed in 2013 and the tip as yet hasn't, then sue the house builder Or as you suggest those "who allow them to build", that would be WBC then, sue them. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 6

5:09pm Wed 26 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

KEEP THE "TIP" OPEN FOR ANOTHER " 12 YEARS "
KEEP THE "TIP" OPEN FOR ANOTHER " 12 YEARS " MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -10

5:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

EVEN people on here have voted for the tip to stay open ! GLAD I DONT LIVE NEAR IT ! LOL !
EVEN people on here have voted for the tip to stay open ! GLAD I DONT LIVE NEAR IT ! LOL ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -16

5:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

MAD 4 IT wrote:
EVEN people on here have voted for the tip to stay open ! GLAD I DONT LIVE NEAR IT ! LOL !
No you just live near a wall of advertising tyre's don't you, judging by your comments on that subject.!!!!
[quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: EVEN people on here have voted for the tip to stay open ! GLAD I DONT LIVE NEAR IT ! LOL ![/p][/quote]No you just live near a wall of advertising tyre's don't you, judging by your comments on that subject.!!!! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 6

9:04pm Wed 26 Feb 14

grey-area says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
MAD 4 IT wrote:
EVEN people on here have voted for the tip to stay open ! GLAD I DONT LIVE NEAR IT ! LOL !
No you just live near a wall of advertising tyre's don't you, judging by your comments on that subject.!!!!
And despite the might of WBC against the land owner - the tyres are still there.

Back to the tip problem. If the licence was to end in 2013, then legally, why hasn't tipping stopped. Why is there an appeal? I bet there was a clause to continue in certain circumstances that we all didn't know about and someone is hiding things.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: EVEN people on here have voted for the tip to stay open ! GLAD I DONT LIVE NEAR IT ! LOL ![/p][/quote]No you just live near a wall of advertising tyre's don't you, judging by your comments on that subject.!!!![/p][/quote]And despite the might of WBC against the land owner - the tyres are still there. Back to the tip problem. If the licence was to end in 2013, then legally, why hasn't tipping stopped. Why is there an appeal? I bet there was a clause to continue in certain circumstances that we all didn't know about and someone is hiding things. grey-area
  • Score: 7

9:24pm Wed 26 Feb 14

old-codger says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Star1307 wrote:
I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.
The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.
They bought houses after being told the tip would close in October 2013 and the land would be transformed into a green parkland area, So residents are in no way whatsoever to blame for the present crisis.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Star1307[/bold] wrote: I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.[/p][/quote]The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.[/p][/quote]They bought houses after being told the tip would close in October 2013 and the land would be transformed into a green parkland area, So residents are in no way whatsoever to blame for the present crisis. old-codger
  • Score: -5

10:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Karlar says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Karlar wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Star1307 wrote:
I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.
The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.
Your unsympathetic comments will go down like a lead ballon with all the people who have suffered flood damage during the recent once in a hundred years bad weather, that seems to be cropping up with much shorter regularity. Don't you think those who build and those who allow them to build houses on flood plains have to accept some responsibility as well?
Everyone is blaming the tip Karlar but where is the house builder now! I am not unsympathetic at all, I fully back the closure of this tip but you can not buy a property next to something that once you have moved into complain about it. They knew what they were buying and where it was don't complain now your living their and suffering the consequences of your poor judgement. And don't give me once in a hundred years bad weather we had the same last year! We will also, probably, even get it worse next year! If you were sold this property with the assurance that the tip was to be closed in 2013 and the tip as yet hasn't, then sue the house builder Or as you suggest those "who allow them to build", that would be WBC then, sue them.
What do you want to debate the tip or the flood plain? I'm not giving you the once in a hundred years, that is what the Met Office alleged when quantifying the extent of this year's adverse weather.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Karlar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Star1307[/bold] wrote: I want to know why no one has mentioned the birds. We live on Marina avenue and we have a lot of problems with the birds flying over to the tip. Every day they fly over and the muck is getting ridiculous. It's always all over the driveway, roof and car and van. Then in the summer the flies add to the problem. Windows have to be kept shut to keep dirt and flies out. Something needs to be done.[/p][/quote]The tip was there before these houses were built, surely people who bought these houses knew there would be some problems. I fully agree that the tip was to close and has not and maybe that is why the residents are angry, but you have to take some blame for making the decision to buy their in the first place. To add insult to injury though it's not even our waste that is tipped their which to be honest is the only reason I support the closure. The same could be said if you were to buy a property in a flood risk area, you make the choice so live with it.[/p][/quote]Your unsympathetic comments will go down like a lead ballon with all the people who have suffered flood damage during the recent once in a hundred years bad weather, that seems to be cropping up with much shorter regularity. Don't you think those who build and those who allow them to build houses on flood plains have to accept some responsibility as well?[/p][/quote]Everyone is blaming the tip Karlar but where is the house builder now! I am not unsympathetic at all, I fully back the closure of this tip but you can not buy a property next to something that once you have moved into complain about it. They knew what they were buying and where it was don't complain now your living their and suffering the consequences of your poor judgement. And don't give me once in a hundred years bad weather we had the same last year! We will also, probably, even get it worse next year! If you were sold this property with the assurance that the tip was to be closed in 2013 and the tip as yet hasn't, then sue the house builder Or as you suggest those "who allow them to build", that would be WBC then, sue them.[/p][/quote]What do you want to debate the tip or the flood plain? I'm not giving you the once in a hundred years, that is what the Met Office alleged when quantifying the extent of this year's adverse weather. Karlar
  • Score: 1

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