Motorist who killed woman on Lovely Lane handed suspended sentence

The fatal accident happened on Lovely Lane

The fatal accident happened on Lovely Lane

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A DAD who knocked down and killed a mum of four has escaped a prison sentence.

Balbinder Dhillon, of Montana Close, Great Sankey, was at the wheel of his Audi A4 when he crashed on Lovely Lane on April 25, fatally injuring Donna Davies, aged 42.

The court heard how Dhillon - who kept his head bowed throughout the proceedings - was driving home from picking up his two children from kickboxing when the crash happened at 6.40pm.

His two children were in the back of the car when he drove across the other side of the road onto the pavement where Mrs Davies was walking with her 10-year-old daughter, who escaped the incident uninjured, the court heard.

The car, which was travelling between 31 and 34 miles per hour, only came to a stop when it hit a stone wall.

Prosecuting, Mandy Nepal told the court room that during a police interview the 39-year-old explained he had been under a lot of stress due to his wife’s depression and had recently discovered that his father was terminally ill.

Dhillon also admitted to smoking cannabis on the Sunday and had taken some of his wife’s sleeping tablets on the Tuesday – two days before the crash.

In a statement read out in court, Mrs Davies’ husband, Paul, said his ‘happy loving family had gone to nothing but a shell’ and the two youngest children had been taken into care.

He added: “My life and that of the children has been destroyed.”

Defending, Anne White called the incident an ‘uncharacteristic brief episode of dangerous driving’.

She added: “He said that he blacked out but we will never know if he did on that night. He had his two sons, aged 10 and four, in the back of the car. He had every motive not to drive in a dangerous fashion.”

It was also claimed that there was no evidence of breaking before the crash, which she called ‘highly unusual’.

She also stated that Dhillon had taken a breathyser test, which was negative.

But, he later refused to provide a sample of blood at the hospital which she claimed was because he did not realise anyone else, other than himself and his children, were involved in the crash.

The former director of a landlord and letting agency is now unemployed and was declared bankrupt in November.

Dhillon, who is suffering from post accident amnesia, has since been diagnosed as clinically depressed, the court heard.

Mrs White added: “He is permanently seeking ways to atone and has intense regret and remorse by what happened.

“He broke down and cried when he was told her children had been taken into care.”

Sentencing, Judge Nicholas Woodward said: “You are suffering from post accident amnesia and you have no recollection of the accident itself.

“But, in my judgement, a major factor must have been the amount of stress you must have been under at that time.

“In particular, the news that you had just been given by your father and, in some way, that must have affected your driving.

“Her family have been absolutely torn apart by what happened and no sentence I give can do anything to remedy that tragedy.”

Dhillon, who has three previous convictions for drugs from 1998 to 2008, was handed a two-year suspended sentence at Warrington Crown Court on Friday.

The defendant was also ordered to carry out 300 hours of unpaid work and is disqualified from driving for five years.

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11:16am Mon 24 Feb 14

Kerry1988 says...

Is this some kind of sick joke? He should be locked up!
Is this some kind of sick joke? He should be locked up! Kerry1988
  • Score: 54

11:43am Mon 24 Feb 14

markieboy says...

yes kerry its a joke !!!
yes kerry its a joke !!! markieboy
  • Score: 22

11:44am Mon 24 Feb 14

vjones says...

I now this year gone fast but didn't think it was the 1 April what wronge with this country's laws just a joke how that poor younge child going to think my thoughts are with her
I now this year gone fast but didn't think it was the 1 April what wronge with this country's laws just a joke how that poor younge child going to think my thoughts are with her vjones
  • Score: 24

11:51am Mon 24 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

ABSOLUTE "DISGRACE" !!!!!!!!!! "KARMA"
ABSOLUTE "DISGRACE" !!!!!!!!!! "KARMA" MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 20

11:56am Mon 24 Feb 14

Fran bagshaw says...

I don't understand how a man can take one life and ruin a whole families life and not get a custodial sentence.
Although it will never bring her back, he should be properly punished for the theft of one life and the theft of the future lives of all the children and her husband.
I am disgusted.
I don't understand how a man can take one life and ruin a whole families life and not get a custodial sentence. Although it will never bring her back, he should be properly punished for the theft of one life and the theft of the future lives of all the children and her husband. I am disgusted. Fran bagshaw
  • Score: 47

11:56am Mon 24 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

"sack" the judge !
"sack" the judge ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 25

12:06pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Beanieblue says...

I think this is a travesty - no justice at all for the family of the victim - which has been pretty much torn apart. Shame on this decision. There should have been some prison time here - it reads like we should feel sorry for the driver - well I really don't think so! Why does no-one ever take the victims and their families into account and go in favour of the perpetrators. It is a shame the victim's family cannot appeal against the light sentence.
I think this is a travesty - no justice at all for the family of the victim - which has been pretty much torn apart. Shame on this decision. There should have been some prison time here - it reads like we should feel sorry for the driver - well I really don't think so! Why does no-one ever take the victims and their families into account and go in favour of the perpetrators. It is a shame the victim's family cannot appeal against the light sentence. Beanieblue
  • Score: 38

12:09pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Again HMCS have let justice be served, NOT!
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Nuff said
Again HMCS have let justice be served, NOT! F*** ****** ************ ************** *********** ********* ************ ****** *********** ************ ****** *** ************* * ************* **** * ************ ************** ************ ********** * *************** * ************ ******* ****************** ***** ******* *********** ********** ****************. Nuff said GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 21

12:29pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Paul9994 says...

If as many people can express their comments here, it would be very grateful and a first step in to rectifying this grave miscarriage of justice, the more public pressure there is the better the chance me and my family have got in trying to secure an appeal and get this overturned. Many thanks
If as many people can express their comments here, it would be very grateful and a first step in to rectifying this grave miscarriage of justice, the more public pressure there is the better the chance me and my family have got in trying to secure an appeal and get this overturned. Many thanks Paul9994
  • Score: 59

12:34pm Mon 24 Feb 14

david james01 says...

What a joke he as played a blinder and got off with it. He should have got ten years. He even refused to give a blood test. He got the sympathy vote. Shocking shocking.
What a joke he as played a blinder and got off with it. He should have got ten years. He even refused to give a blood test. He got the sympathy vote. Shocking shocking. david james01
  • Score: 32

12:39pm Mon 24 Feb 14

jrr19 says...

Has happened with the Stuart hall case, the dpp should take this case back to the court of appeal to have this sentence increased. Do judges live on the same planet as the rest of us.?
Has happened with the Stuart hall case, the dpp should take this case back to the court of appeal to have this sentence increased. Do judges live on the same planet as the rest of us.? jrr19
  • Score: 20

1:01pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Crazymum says...

If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life. Crazymum
  • Score: -43

1:26pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
Suffered with blackouts and was driving, even with his own kids in the car, and refused to give a sample so they could test for what he had not admitted to taking! Are you real or are you really crazy!!!!!! Just don't even get me started.............
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]Suffered with blackouts and was driving, even with his own kids in the car, and refused to give a sample so they could test for what he had not admitted to taking! Are you real or are you really crazy!!!!!! Just don't even get me started............. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 39

1:34pm Mon 24 Feb 14

jitterbug says...

Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
There is no proof to say he wasnt under the influence of drugs becuase he refused to give a blood sample.

And there is no proof to say he blacked out!!!
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]There is no proof to say he wasnt under the influence of drugs becuase he refused to give a blood sample. And there is no proof to say he blacked out!!! jitterbug
  • Score: 25

1:36pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Crazymum says...

Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone!
Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone! Crazymum
  • Score: -16

1:45pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Crazymum wrote:
Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone!
There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone![/p][/quote]There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time. GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 20

1:45pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Crazymum says...

The 'proof' or some evidence that he blacked out is that there was no sign of braking which if you were fully alert there would be as you would brake - so this would suggest that he was asleep/passed out. It doesn't say whether he never had a blood test done at all, just that he refused it - fairly certain, given the circumstances he would have been ordered to do so - you can refuse to give a breath test but the police will arrest you for it - same with drugs tests.
The 'proof' or some evidence that he blacked out is that there was no sign of braking which if you were fully alert there would be as you would brake - so this would suggest that he was asleep/passed out. It doesn't say whether he never had a blood test done at all, just that he refused it - fairly certain, given the circumstances he would have been ordered to do so - you can refuse to give a breath test but the police will arrest you for it - same with drugs tests. Crazymum
  • Score: -17

1:47pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Crazymum says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Crazymum wrote:
Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone!
There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.
Still found time for that reply didn't you? ^
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone![/p][/quote]There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.[/p][/quote]Still found time for that reply didn't you? ^ Crazymum
  • Score: -14

1:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

fedster says...

thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else

What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child.


WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes.


i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.
thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child. WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes. i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence. fedster
  • Score: 31

1:56pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Crazymum wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Crazymum wrote:
Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone!
There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.
Still found time for that reply didn't you? ^
I will let PageA, Old codger, Nick Tessler and the other regulars deal with you!
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone![/p][/quote]There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.[/p][/quote]Still found time for that reply didn't you? ^[/p][/quote]I will let PageA, Old codger, Nick Tessler and the other regulars deal with you! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 8

1:56pm Mon 24 Feb 14

fedster says...

Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
so what about the previous dangerous driving charge that other news outlets are reporting and the WG posted up days after the incident but all of a sudden dont get mentioned in court.

ss crazy mum your kids are abused by someone who was abused themselves you would forgive them ?


grow up love.
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]so what about the previous dangerous driving charge that other news outlets are reporting and the WG posted up days after the incident but all of a sudden dont get mentioned in court. ss crazy mum your kids are abused by someone who was abused themselves you would forgive them ? grow up love. fedster
  • Score: 16

1:59pm Mon 24 Feb 14

jitterbug says...

My heart goes out to this poor victims family. I just hope they can one day find peace and rebuild their shattered lives.
My heart goes out to this poor victims family. I just hope they can one day find peace and rebuild their shattered lives. jitterbug
  • Score: 24

2:49pm Mon 24 Feb 14

biginthesticks says...

If this man has episodes of stress/blacking out then why wasn't it a lifetime driving ban? The judge has also set a test case standard whereby anyone can do the same and the punishment cannot be anything more.
All wrong.
If this man has episodes of stress/blacking out then why wasn't it a lifetime driving ban? The judge has also set a test case standard whereby anyone can do the same and the punishment cannot be anything more. All wrong. biginthesticks
  • Score: 18

2:49pm Mon 24 Feb 14

MrBenggo says...

Extremely lenient sentence,but just look who the judge is,
Judge Nicholas"lenient"Woo
dward.
Look at other judgements he has made and he is a master of lenient sentencing,a bloody disgrace to law and order.
Extremely lenient sentence,but just look who the judge is, Judge Nicholas"lenient"Woo dward. Look at other judgements he has made and he is a master of lenient sentencing,a bloody disgrace to law and order. MrBenggo
  • Score: 22

2:58pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Paris says...

Donna was such a decent woman, and deserves a decent outcome. Let's hope all the comments help bring an appeal.
Donna was such a decent woman, and deserves a decent outcome. Let's hope all the comments help bring an appeal. Paris
  • Score: 29

3:01pm Mon 24 Feb 14

MrBenggo says...

Paris,
I really hope so.
Paris, I really hope so. MrBenggo
  • Score: 15

3:01pm Mon 24 Feb 14

grappenhall boy says...

It does seem to be an accepted defence, rightly or wrongly, if you pass out whilst driving, it happened previously at the junction of Farrell st and Kingsway when a lady cyclist was killed,not sure what happened to the driver in that tragic collision.
I think the driver said they would never drive again,hope this is still the case,my sincere condolences to both families of these tragic collisions.
It does seem to be an accepted defence, rightly or wrongly, if you pass out whilst driving, it happened previously at the junction of Farrell st and Kingsway when a lady cyclist was killed,not sure what happened to the driver in that tragic collision. I think the driver said they would never drive again,hope this is still the case,my sincere condolences to both families of these tragic collisions. grappenhall boy
  • Score: 2

3:03pm Mon 24 Feb 14

PageA says...

fedster wrote:
thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else

What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child.


WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes.


i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.
I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child. WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes. i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.[/p][/quote]I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all PageA
  • Score: 5

3:25pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

fedster wrote:
Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
so what about the previous dangerous driving charge that other news outlets are reporting and the WG posted up days after the incident but all of a sudden dont get mentioned in court.

ss crazy mum your kids are abused by someone who was abused themselves you would forgive them ?


grow up love.
Where does it say that the charge was not mentioned in court?

Do you mean a charge not a conviction? Not sure it would be, or should be, relevant if he wasn't convicted on that charge.

(Sinking to personal abuse, Fedster. There is plenty of evidence that many abused individuals become child abusers themselves)
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]so what about the previous dangerous driving charge that other news outlets are reporting and the WG posted up days after the incident but all of a sudden dont get mentioned in court. ss crazy mum your kids are abused by someone who was abused themselves you would forgive them ? grow up love.[/p][/quote]Where does it say that the charge was not mentioned in court? Do you mean a charge not a conviction? Not sure it would be, or should be, relevant if he wasn't convicted on that charge. (Sinking to personal abuse, Fedster. There is plenty of evidence that many abused individuals become child abusers themselves) Nick Tessla
  • Score: 1

3:50pm Mon 24 Feb 14

tarasmum says...

A suspended sentence and he killed a Mum of four who was just going about her usual business - MADNESS !!!!!
A suspended sentence and he killed a Mum of four who was just going about her usual business - MADNESS !!!!! tarasmum
  • Score: 19

3:54pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
fedster wrote:
thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else

What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child.


WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes.


i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.
I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all
I have to say PageA I expected better comments from you than this especially with your intellect and knowledge on a wide range of subjects and as my earlier comments below might suggest!
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child. WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes. i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.[/p][/quote]I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all[/p][/quote]I have to say PageA I expected better comments from you than this especially with your intellect and knowledge on a wide range of subjects and as my earlier comments below might suggest! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -4

4:13pm Mon 24 Feb 14

grey_man says...

Well let's hope the appeal is successful. This is a crazy sentence, especially when all the mitigating factors such as refusing a blood test 'because he didn't realise somebody else was involved', amnesia and so on all point to somebody avoiding responsibility and hiding something. I'd also ask whether the bankruptcy is a way of avoiding civil proceedings.

By rights the bloke needs to be locked up for a substantial time
Well let's hope the appeal is successful. This is a crazy sentence, especially when all the mitigating factors such as refusing a blood test 'because he didn't realise somebody else was involved', amnesia and so on all point to somebody avoiding responsibility and hiding something. I'd also ask whether the bankruptcy is a way of avoiding civil proceedings. By rights the bloke needs to be locked up for a substantial time grey_man
  • Score: 17

4:18pm Mon 24 Feb 14

PageA says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
fedster wrote:
thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else

What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child.


WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes.


i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.
I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all
I have to say PageA I expected better comments from you than this especially with your intellect and knowledge on a wide range of subjects and as my earlier comments below might suggest!
This is not a time for showboating Grumpy. I have many thoughts about the story but my overriding feeling is sadness for the family's loss. I dont know what relationship you have with the family, I have none. If it's ok, until I learn otherwise i will not consider you to be their media representative. I wish them all the best in their appeal and hope they find peace in their future lives. I dont know enough about the case to comment on the judge's decision and I'm not one for shouting scum at my computer screen.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child. WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes. i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.[/p][/quote]I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all[/p][/quote]I have to say PageA I expected better comments from you than this especially with your intellect and knowledge on a wide range of subjects and as my earlier comments below might suggest![/p][/quote]This is not a time for showboating Grumpy. I have many thoughts about the story but my overriding feeling is sadness for the family's loss. I dont know what relationship you have with the family, I have none. If it's ok, until I learn otherwise i will not consider you to be their media representative. I wish them all the best in their appeal and hope they find peace in their future lives. I dont know enough about the case to comment on the judge's decision and I'm not one for shouting scum at my computer screen. PageA
  • Score: 6

5:10pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Karlar says...

Whatever the driver was allegedly suffering from on the face of what has been reported this verdict seems to be unduly lenient. All my sympathies go to the family of mother who has had her life cut short. I have no sympathy for the driver regardless of the level of remorse he chose to put on show during the trial.
Whatever the driver was allegedly suffering from on the face of what has been reported this verdict seems to be unduly lenient. All my sympathies go to the family of mother who has had her life cut short. I have no sympathy for the driver regardless of the level of remorse he chose to put on show during the trial. Karlar
  • Score: 18

5:12pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Crazymum says...

I applaud your feeble attempt at a strawman there, fedster, but the two matters of child abuse and someone guilty of causing death by dangerous driving are poles apart and other than this comment I am not going to bolster your weak attempt to sway an argument.

It's well documented that people can react to stressful situations in different ways. Sleeping tablets would suggest that Dhillon was having problems sleeping. If he had fell asleep at the wheel due to exhaustion due to stress, would he still deserve a prison sentence (bearing in mind this is possibly what has happened by there being no sign of braking). Granted, if he was that tired he was stupid to get behind the wheel but people blackout due to lots of differing reasons. WG has reported very scant facts and it's not very widely reported much else elsewhere, so I am basing my thoughts on what has been published here. It doesn't say there is a history of blackouts, just that he says he had one and again corroborated by no evidence of braking. This is not defending the guy by the way, just examining the facts which we have been given and applying some common sense. I know neither party involved and cannot imagine what must be going through Mrs Davies head now this verdict has been reached but as I said earlier, no custodial sentence is going to bring her back.
I applaud your feeble attempt at a strawman there, fedster, but the two matters of child abuse and someone guilty of causing death by dangerous driving are poles apart and other than this comment I am not going to bolster your weak attempt to sway an argument. It's well documented that people can react to stressful situations in different ways. Sleeping tablets would suggest that Dhillon was having problems sleeping. If he had fell asleep at the wheel due to exhaustion due to stress, would he still deserve a prison sentence (bearing in mind this is possibly what has happened by there being no sign of braking). Granted, if he was that tired he was stupid to get behind the wheel but people blackout due to lots of differing reasons. WG has reported very scant facts and it's not very widely reported much else elsewhere, so I am basing my thoughts on what has been published here. It doesn't say there is a history of blackouts, just that he says he had one and again corroborated by no evidence of braking. This is not defending the guy by the way, just examining the facts which we have been given and applying some common sense. I know neither party involved and cannot imagine what must be going through Mrs Davies head now this verdict has been reached but as I said earlier, no custodial sentence is going to bring her back. Crazymum
  • Score: -15

5:13pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Paul9994 says...

If I can intervene please everyone, I do not know who grumpy isand have no connection to this person, I am asking is for public encouragement to say to the cps see sense and go for an appeal, all I want is not only justice for myself, my children and Donna, but also for donna's mother and family, no mother should ever have to bury their child
If I can intervene please everyone, I do not know who grumpy isand have no connection to this person, I am asking is for public encouragement to say to the cps see sense and go for an appeal, all I want is not only justice for myself, my children and Donna, but also for donna's mother and family, no mother should ever have to bury their child Paul9994
  • Score: 25

5:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Crazymum says...

Crazymum wrote:
I applaud your feeble attempt at a strawman there, fedster, but the two matters of child abuse and someone guilty of causing death by dangerous driving are poles apart and other than this comment I am not going to bolster your weak attempt to sway an argument.

It's well documented that people can react to stressful situations in different ways. Sleeping tablets would suggest that Dhillon was having problems sleeping. If he had fell asleep at the wheel due to exhaustion due to stress, would he still deserve a prison sentence (bearing in mind this is possibly what has happened by there being no sign of braking). Granted, if he was that tired he was stupid to get behind the wheel but people blackout due to lots of differing reasons. WG has reported very scant facts and it's not very widely reported much else elsewhere, so I am basing my thoughts on what has been published here. It doesn't say there is a history of blackouts, just that he says he had one and again corroborated by no evidence of braking. This is not defending the guy by the way, just examining the facts which we have been given and applying some common sense. I know neither party involved and cannot imagine what must be going through Mrs Davies head now this verdict has been reached but as I said earlier, no custodial sentence is going to bring her back.
Sorry, I must apologise that was meant to say Mrs Davies' families heads now
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: I applaud your feeble attempt at a strawman there, fedster, but the two matters of child abuse and someone guilty of causing death by dangerous driving are poles apart and other than this comment I am not going to bolster your weak attempt to sway an argument. It's well documented that people can react to stressful situations in different ways. Sleeping tablets would suggest that Dhillon was having problems sleeping. If he had fell asleep at the wheel due to exhaustion due to stress, would he still deserve a prison sentence (bearing in mind this is possibly what has happened by there being no sign of braking). Granted, if he was that tired he was stupid to get behind the wheel but people blackout due to lots of differing reasons. WG has reported very scant facts and it's not very widely reported much else elsewhere, so I am basing my thoughts on what has been published here. It doesn't say there is a history of blackouts, just that he says he had one and again corroborated by no evidence of braking. This is not defending the guy by the way, just examining the facts which we have been given and applying some common sense. I know neither party involved and cannot imagine what must be going through Mrs Davies head now this verdict has been reached but as I said earlier, no custodial sentence is going to bring her back.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I must apologise that was meant to say Mrs Davies' families heads now Crazymum
  • Score: -8

5:22pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
fedster wrote:
thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else

What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child.


WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes.


i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.
I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all
I have to say PageA I expected better comments from you than this especially with your intellect and knowledge on a wide range of subjects and as my earlier comments below might suggest!
This is not a time for showboating Grumpy. I have many thoughts about the story but my overriding feeling is sadness for the family's loss. I dont know what relationship you have with the family, I have none. If it's ok, until I learn otherwise i will not consider you to be their media representative. I wish them all the best in their appeal and hope they find peace in their future lives. I dont know enough about the case to comment on the judge's decision and I'm not one for shouting scum at my computer screen.
As previously stated PageA this is personal and you well know I will comment on all subjects with you or against you but I just do not have the mental strength at this moment in time to react to some of these comments. They have no idea what this family (children) have gone through or are going through at this moment in time. This is not justice!
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: thank you editor iam shocked it took as many emails and letters for you to print this story days after everywhere else What a miscarage of justice this is, second time he has had dangerouse driving on his charge sheet this time he take the life of a mother in front of her child. WHY did he only get suspended when people are getting longer sentence for lesser crimes. i hope the husband and family have all the help and luck in the world over turning this terrible sentence.[/p][/quote]I dont think there's a conspiracy here Fedster and I think it would be wrong of you to impose that upon this tragedy. It's probably more likely that as the trial concluded on Friday, this is the first opportunity the writer had to upload the story. It's more likely that they were out with friends this weekend. I doubt that your rantings played any part at all[/p][/quote]I have to say PageA I expected better comments from you than this especially with your intellect and knowledge on a wide range of subjects and as my earlier comments below might suggest![/p][/quote]This is not a time for showboating Grumpy. I have many thoughts about the story but my overriding feeling is sadness for the family's loss. I dont know what relationship you have with the family, I have none. If it's ok, until I learn otherwise i will not consider you to be their media representative. I wish them all the best in their appeal and hope they find peace in their future lives. I dont know enough about the case to comment on the judge's decision and I'm not one for shouting scum at my computer screen.[/p][/quote]As previously stated PageA this is personal and you well know I will comment on all subjects with you or against you but I just do not have the mental strength at this moment in time to react to some of these comments. They have no idea what this family (children) have gone through or are going through at this moment in time. This is not justice! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 6

5:38pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Paul9994 wrote:
If I can intervene please everyone, I do not know who grumpy isand have no connection to this person, I am asking is for public encouragement to say to the cps see sense and go for an appeal, all I want is not only justice for myself, my children and Donna, but also for donna's mother and family, no mother should ever have to bury their child
You do have a connection!
[quote][p][bold]Paul9994[/bold] wrote: If I can intervene please everyone, I do not know who grumpy isand have no connection to this person, I am asking is for public encouragement to say to the cps see sense and go for an appeal, all I want is not only justice for myself, my children and Donna, but also for donna's mother and family, no mother should ever have to bury their child[/p][/quote]You do have a connection! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: 4

5:40pm Mon 24 Feb 14

PageA says...

This is not the time for bickering or personality clashes. I feel like I am trespassing here. Crazymum, maybe another time with Grumpy? there are friends and family members here. Good luck Paul.
This is not the time for bickering or personality clashes. I feel like I am trespassing here. Crazymum, maybe another time with Grumpy? there are friends and family members here. Good luck Paul. PageA
  • Score: 13

5:49pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Paul9994 says...

Please everybody all I won't is to stop the childish bickering yes people have their own views, and no it will not bring my wife my children's mother back, all I can say whatever your agendas are please don't use this, all I want is justice, what my wife is missing out now is 3 days later, we found out that my eldest son was expecting his 1st child, this something that Donna will miss out, if she was alive now our grandchild would have been spoilt also, people forget there is a 8 week old baby, that will never ever meet a loving grandmother, so please whatever your personal views or scoring points agenda is do not do this as I am trying to get public support so that this miscarriage of justice can be over turned, to all the other people I thank you for your public concern, not only did it destroy immediate families but also local communities as she was well liked in not only the Longford community but also the whitecross community
Please everybody all I won't is to stop the childish bickering yes people have their own views, and no it will not bring my wife my children's mother back, all I can say whatever your agendas are please don't use this, all I want is justice, what my wife is missing out now is 3 days later, we found out that my eldest son was expecting his 1st child, this something that Donna will miss out, if she was alive now our grandchild would have been spoilt also, people forget there is a 8 week old baby, that will never ever meet a loving grandmother, so please whatever your personal views or scoring points agenda is do not do this as I am trying to get public support so that this miscarriage of justice can be over turned, to all the other people I thank you for your public concern, not only did it destroy immediate families but also local communities as she was well liked in not only the Longford community but also the whitecross community Paul9994
  • Score: 37

6:18pm Mon 24 Feb 14

fedster says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
fedster wrote:
Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
so what about the previous dangerous driving charge that other news outlets are reporting and the WG posted up days after the incident but all of a sudden dont get mentioned in court.

ss crazy mum your kids are abused by someone who was abused themselves you would forgive them ?


grow up love.
Where does it say that the charge was not mentioned in court?

Do you mean a charge not a conviction? Not sure it would be, or should be, relevant if he wasn't convicted on that charge.

(Sinking to personal abuse, Fedster. There is plenty of evidence that many abused individuals become child abusers themselves)
thats funny page bbc and sky news had their stories on friday evening
the echo on saturday

just shows that WG is full of part timers.

in the first major story nick they said he had been charged and convicted of dangerous driving before and all he got was a fine and points.

and yet theirs stories out their of people being locked up for 3 to 7 years for death by dangerous driving so why does this chap get a free pass.

yes i know i shouldn't have lowered myself but alas anyone who sticks up for this chap needs to take a look from mrs davies familys life.

at the end of the day (he has history for driving erratically) he then kills a mother in front of her child and gets no worse than a slap on the wrist.

things like this rial me up so much.

its like condoning killing people in your car and nothing will happen why is he so different.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]so what about the previous dangerous driving charge that other news outlets are reporting and the WG posted up days after the incident but all of a sudden dont get mentioned in court. ss crazy mum your kids are abused by someone who was abused themselves you would forgive them ? grow up love.[/p][/quote]Where does it say that the charge was not mentioned in court? Do you mean a charge not a conviction? Not sure it would be, or should be, relevant if he wasn't convicted on that charge. (Sinking to personal abuse, Fedster. There is plenty of evidence that many abused individuals become child abusers themselves)[/p][/quote]thats funny page bbc and sky news had their stories on friday evening the echo on saturday just shows that WG is full of part timers. in the first major story nick they said he had been charged and convicted of dangerous driving before and all he got was a fine and points. and yet theirs stories out their of people being locked up for 3 to 7 years for death by dangerous driving so why does this chap get a free pass. yes i know i shouldn't have lowered myself but alas anyone who sticks up for this chap needs to take a look from mrs davies familys life. at the end of the day (he has history for driving erratically) he then kills a mother in front of her child and gets no worse than a slap on the wrist. things like this rial me up so much. its like condoning killing people in your car and nothing will happen why is he so different. fedster
  • Score: 12

6:57pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

I read this article with a growing sense of disbelief, there has been a miscarriage of justice here.
Mr Davies, I do hope you are successful in putting it right by way of an appeal.
I read this article with a growing sense of disbelief, there has been a miscarriage of justice here. Mr Davies, I do hope you are successful in putting it right by way of an appeal. Freeborn John
  • Score: 19

7:10pm Mon 24 Feb 14

old-codger says...

Kerry1988 wrote:
Is this some kind of sick joke? He should be locked up!
Its f...... disgusting, playing the sympathy card to avoid justice.
[quote][p][bold]Kerry1988[/bold] wrote: Is this some kind of sick joke? He should be locked up![/p][/quote]Its f...... disgusting, playing the sympathy card to avoid justice. old-codger
  • Score: 12

8:28pm Mon 24 Feb 14

minne mouse says...

My heart goes out to Mrs Davies Family and Friends. It was so hard to come to term's with there loss and must be just as hard to come to term's with this. I do hope they are successful in putting it right by way of an appeal.
My heart goes out to Mrs Davies Family and Friends. It was so hard to come to term's with there loss and must be just as hard to come to term's with this. I do hope they are successful in putting it right by way of an appeal. minne mouse
  • Score: 16

9:11pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Mick17 says...

I cannot believe what I've just read. I just don't understand our criminal justice system sometimes. No, its true, a custodial sentence won't bring Mrs Davies back BUT by that crazy logic why give anybody a custodial sentence? So now taking the life of an innocent woman who was doing nothing wrong and just innocently walking along the pavement with her daughter doesnt now warrant a custodial sentance? This is just wrong and most right minded people know it. Sadly it seems the perpetrators well being and rights are being put above those of the VICTIM & her family. This poor family has been so badly let down. I hope that justice will eventually be served. The judicial system may not care about you Mr Davies but take heart that the overwhelming majority people who read your story will support you.
I cannot believe what I've just read. I just don't understand our criminal justice system sometimes. No, its true, a custodial sentence won't bring Mrs Davies back BUT by that crazy logic why give anybody a custodial sentence? So now taking the life of an innocent woman who was doing nothing wrong and just innocently walking along the pavement with her daughter doesnt now warrant a custodial sentance? This is just wrong and most right minded people know it. Sadly it seems the perpetrators well being and rights are being put above those of the VICTIM & her family. This poor family has been so badly let down. I hope that justice will eventually be served. The judicial system may not care about you Mr Davies but take heart that the overwhelming majority people who read your story will support you. Mick17
  • Score: 18

9:22pm Mon 24 Feb 14

whatsgoingon1 says...

I would ask the Judge " What would have been your judgement if the defendant's Father had not been ill?" Reading this sparse account of the trial, I suspect that he is a liar. The sympathy vote seems to have been laid with a trowel. There must be a review of this sentencing
I would ask the Judge " What would have been your judgement if the defendant's Father had not been ill?" Reading this sparse account of the trial, I suspect that he is a liar. The sympathy vote seems to have been laid with a trowel. There must be a review of this sentencing whatsgoingon1
  • Score: 13

9:27pm Mon 24 Feb 14

whatsgoingon1 says...

The defendant not the Judge is a liar, sorry for my bad English.
The defendant not the Judge is a liar, sorry for my bad English. whatsgoingon1
  • Score: 9

10:08pm Mon 24 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Seems the balance of justice needs looking at here.

Catch fish illegally - fined £500 ish
Kill someone in a car - walk away with a slapped wrist.

This sentence seems to need revisiting urgently
Seems the balance of justice needs looking at here. Catch fish illegally - fined £500 ish Kill someone in a car - walk away with a slapped wrist. This sentence seems to need revisiting urgently grey-area
  • Score: 17

10:29pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

grey-area wrote:
Seems the balance of justice needs looking at here.

Catch fish illegally - fined £500 ish
Kill someone in a car - walk away with a slapped wrist.

This sentence seems to need revisiting urgently
Following the London riots somebody in the town got four years in prison for a daft post on Facebook.
But death by dangerous driving, the judiciary smile behind their hands.
The balance of justice doesn't exist.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: Seems the balance of justice needs looking at here. Catch fish illegally - fined £500 ish Kill someone in a car - walk away with a slapped wrist. This sentence seems to need revisiting urgently[/p][/quote]Following the London riots somebody in the town got four years in prison for a daft post on Facebook. But death by dangerous driving, the judiciary smile behind their hands. The balance of justice doesn't exist. Freeborn John
  • Score: 18

8:34am Tue 25 Feb 14

jaqren says...

HMCS are rediculose giving innocent people criminal records and letting real criminals go free.......I think personally they need to be trained again or get in the real world. I am appaulled this could have been any of us who were killed and we would want justice. I feel for the child left behind poor thing.....
HMCS are rediculose giving innocent people criminal records and letting real criminals go free.......I think personally they need to be trained again or get in the real world. I am appaulled this could have been any of us who were killed and we would want justice. I feel for the child left behind poor thing..... jaqren
  • Score: 5

9:22am Tue 25 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

HOPE "THE KILLER" moves out of WARRINGTON ! must be a "re-trial" !
HOPE "THE KILLER" moves out of WARRINGTON ! must be a "re-trial" ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -6

9:49am Tue 25 Feb 14

Appleton girl says...

It should be universally accepted that when you get behind the wheel of a car or any other vehicle that you are in charge of a potential killing machine, and that you are responsible for the safety of your passengers, other road users and pedestrians. If you are not fit to drive for any reason and cause death or injury, then there should be severe penalties in place. My heart goes out to the Davies family and I hope they are successful in getting an appeal against this lenient sentence.
It should be universally accepted that when you get behind the wheel of a car or any other vehicle that you are in charge of a potential killing machine, and that you are responsible for the safety of your passengers, other road users and pedestrians. If you are not fit to drive for any reason and cause death or injury, then there should be severe penalties in place. My heart goes out to the Davies family and I hope they are successful in getting an appeal against this lenient sentence. Appleton girl
  • Score: 13

11:18am Tue 25 Feb 14

muckerman says...

I think generally there is a drop in criminals getting a custodial sentence due to this government cost cutting. Prison staff are taking heavy cuts and prisoners are getting more and more in the way of appeasement to compensate for lack of staff. Less people getting sent down is all about £££
I think generally there is a drop in criminals getting a custodial sentence due to this government cost cutting. Prison staff are taking heavy cuts and prisoners are getting more and more in the way of appeasement to compensate for lack of staff. Less people getting sent down is all about £££ muckerman
  • Score: 6

12:52pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Mark Tickle says...

Other side of the road and mounted the pavement and he walks away with a suspended sentence?? This has to be one of the saddest and at the same time disgusting article I've read in a long time!!

Suffering from amnesia?? Is that an actual, viable excuse in a court of justice??

Is that to say you could claim amnesia after murder and get away with it??

The justice system in this country is an absolute joke!! My thoughts go out to the victims family in particular the victims child who witnessed the whole event in front of her very eyes.

Refusal to give a blood sample in my opinion, wreaks of guilt!!
Other side of the road and mounted the pavement and he walks away with a suspended sentence?? This has to be one of the saddest and at the same time disgusting article I've read in a long time!! Suffering from amnesia?? Is that an actual, viable excuse in a court of justice?? Is that to say you could claim amnesia after murder and get away with it?? The justice system in this country is an absolute joke!! My thoughts go out to the victims family in particular the victims child who witnessed the whole event in front of her very eyes. Refusal to give a blood sample in my opinion, wreaks of guilt!! Mark Tickle
  • Score: 12

12:54pm Tue 25 Feb 14

chumhill says...

Refused to supply a blood test because he thought he was the only one involved in the collision. Why would you refuse a blood sample anyway unless there was something to hide and why wasn't he locked up for refusing this blood test. Lawyers try and find any little excuse to cut a sentence, knocks me sick. He been driving dangerously doesn't matter if he blacked out or not and killed someone, justice needs to be served.
Refused to supply a blood test because he thought he was the only one involved in the collision. Why would you refuse a blood sample anyway unless there was something to hide and why wasn't he locked up for refusing this blood test. Lawyers try and find any little excuse to cut a sentence, knocks me sick. He been driving dangerously doesn't matter if he blacked out or not and killed someone, justice needs to be served. chumhill
  • Score: 9

12:57pm Tue 25 Feb 14

chumhill says...

Crazymum wrote:
Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone!
How do you know?
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone![/p][/quote]How do you know? chumhill
  • Score: 5

1:10pm Tue 25 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

To the WARRINGTON employers,
Hope nobody ever employs this "killer" !
To the WARRINGTON employers, Hope nobody ever employs this "killer" ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -2

3:44pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Beanieblue says...

Perhaps the WG could help support Mr Davies and his family in requesting a review of the very lenient sentence in this case?
Perhaps the WG could help support Mr Davies and his family in requesting a review of the very lenient sentence in this case? Beanieblue
  • Score: 16

5:43pm Tue 25 Feb 14

highflyer 1 says...

Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
You should put yourself into the shoes of the 2 youngest children! God forbid if you were tragically killed under these circumstances, how would you feel about your children -( if you have any?!) being ripped from a loving home and put into care? THINK about that! A life for a life
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]You should put yourself into the shoes of the 2 youngest children! God forbid if you were tragically killed under these circumstances, how would you feel about your children -( if you have any?!) being ripped from a loving home and put into care? THINK about that! A life for a life highflyer 1
  • Score: 9

7:37pm Tue 25 Feb 14

old-codger says...

Crazymum wrote:
If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.
You must be a friend of the driver to make comments like this, Either that or you are from the same planet as the judge in this case.
[quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: If he wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time of the incident, has suffered blackouts and was under a considerable amount of stress at the time of the accident, what purpose would a custodial sentence serve? None, none whatsoever. It won't bring Mrs Davies back will it? It's a very tragic accident and my heart goes out to her family but I would ask anyone to put themselves in Dhillon's shoes and see that he is going to have this woman's death on his conscience for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]You must be a friend of the driver to make comments like this, Either that or you are from the same planet as the judge in this case. old-codger
  • Score: 4

7:41pm Tue 25 Feb 14

old-codger says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Crazymum wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Crazymum wrote:
Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone!
There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.
Still found time for that reply didn't you? ^
I will let PageA, Old codger, Nick Tessler and the other regulars deal with you!
WG removed my comments regarding this crazy woman, Its obvious that the truth hurts deeply.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crazymum[/bold] wrote: Possibly both Grumpy, but a spliff smoked 4 days before the accident and sleeping tablets taken 2 days before the accident would not have any effect on someone![/p][/quote]There are so many ways I want to come back at you in this comment but I will resist as you do not deserve my time.[/p][/quote]Still found time for that reply didn't you? ^[/p][/quote]I will let PageA, Old codger, Nick Tessler and the other regulars deal with you![/p][/quote]WG removed my comments regarding this crazy woman, Its obvious that the truth hurts deeply. old-codger
  • Score: 1

11:12pm Tue 25 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Why is he banned for 5 years? If you admit suffering from blackouts, you shouldn't drive for ever, especially with children in the car.

And as a thought, no braking may also indicate he hit the wrong pedal trying to avoid this unfortunate accident, but uses blackout excuses not to admit it.
Why is he banned for 5 years? If you admit suffering from blackouts, you shouldn't drive for ever, especially with children in the car. And as a thought, no braking may also indicate he hit the wrong pedal trying to avoid this unfortunate accident, but uses blackout excuses not to admit it. grey-area
  • Score: 9

8:58am Wed 26 Feb 14

Pauline McEwan says...

Paul9994 wrote:
Please everybody all I won't is to stop the childish bickering yes people have their own views, and no it will not bring my wife my children's mother back, all I can say whatever your agendas are please don't use this, all I want is justice, what my wife is missing out now is 3 days later, we found out that my eldest son was expecting his 1st child, this something that Donna will miss out, if she was alive now our grandchild would have been spoilt also, people forget there is a 8 week old baby, that will never ever meet a loving grandmother, so please whatever your personal views or scoring points agenda is do not do this as I am trying to get public support so that this miscarriage of justice can be over turned, to all the other people I thank you for your public concern, not only did it destroy immediate families but also local communities as she was well liked in not only the Longford community but also the whitecross community
Paul I 100% agree, this is about you and your family not about the stupid bickering that I am reading through this. My heart goes out to you all and I hope you get the appeal as it is disgusting he got off with this. It has affected 2 families but justice should be served.
[quote][p][bold]Paul9994[/bold] wrote: Please everybody all I won't is to stop the childish bickering yes people have their own views, and no it will not bring my wife my children's mother back, all I can say whatever your agendas are please don't use this, all I want is justice, what my wife is missing out now is 3 days later, we found out that my eldest son was expecting his 1st child, this something that Donna will miss out, if she was alive now our grandchild would have been spoilt also, people forget there is a 8 week old baby, that will never ever meet a loving grandmother, so please whatever your personal views or scoring points agenda is do not do this as I am trying to get public support so that this miscarriage of justice can be over turned, to all the other people I thank you for your public concern, not only did it destroy immediate families but also local communities as she was well liked in not only the Longford community but also the whitecross community[/p][/quote]Paul I 100% agree, this is about you and your family not about the stupid bickering that I am reading through this. My heart goes out to you all and I hope you get the appeal as it is disgusting he got off with this. It has affected 2 families but justice should be served. Pauline McEwan
  • Score: 11

8:48pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Fedupandneedtorant says...

This is disgusting - the man who killed that poor woman and ruined the life of the family left behind including the two children now in care, he should be locked up for a minimum of 5 years and banned from driving for life.
This is disgusting - the man who killed that poor woman and ruined the life of the family left behind including the two children now in care, he should be locked up for a minimum of 5 years and banned from driving for life. Fedupandneedtorant
  • Score: 11

9:46am Sat 1 Mar 14

local man says...

The trouble is that people believe what the accused say in court just because it makes it into print, they say anything they think will help their case. 'Smoked weed 4 days ago ?' yeah say that, it'll make it look like that's why you avoided the blood test but too long ago to affect your driving. The absence of a test means he could have smoked weed at the wheel for all we know. We don't have to accept his statements as truth just because they were read out in court. A jury didn't accept his defense and found him guilty. A judge then passed this ultra lenient sentence. He had an opportunity to help get the truth by taking a blood test, he then had months to prepare a bull**** story to use as an excuse. You are allowed to think for yourselves and not just base all your opinions on what someone said really happened. Good luck with the appeal, he deserves some jail time to reflect on his crime.
The trouble is that people believe what the accused say in court just because it makes it into print, they say anything they think will help their case. 'Smoked weed 4 days ago ?' yeah say that, it'll make it look like that's why you avoided the blood test but too long ago to affect your driving. The absence of a test means he could have smoked weed at the wheel for all we know. We don't have to accept his statements as truth just because they were read out in court. A jury didn't accept his defense and found him guilty. A judge then passed this ultra lenient sentence. He had an opportunity to help get the truth by taking a blood test, he then had months to prepare a bull**** story to use as an excuse. You are allowed to think for yourselves and not just base all your opinions on what someone said really happened. Good luck with the appeal, he deserves some jail time to reflect on his crime. local man
  • Score: 3

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