Warrington motorists speak out on swing bridge misery

Warrington Guardian: Latchford swing bridge Latchford swing bridge

MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time.

This is just a small selection of reasons why Warrington Guardian readers are calling for Peel Ports to reduce the frequency of the opening of swing bridges on the Manchester Ship Canal.

Motorists are facing a year of traffic nightmares after it was revealed that the bridges in Latchford, Stockton Heath and Walton were to open more than 120 times during rush this year.

Many residents have voiced their concerns over the increasing opening of the bridges during peak times.

Paula Gilmore, from Stockton Heath, said she has lost count of the number of times she has been late for work or unable to leave her street because of the traffic.

The 45-year-old added: “What really angers me is the way Warrington comes to a halt for one ship.

“I understand the canal system is part of Warrington's heritage and industry and there will be inevitable hold ups with swing bridges.

“But what I don't understand is why this should occur at peak times and during the rush hour.

Mum of three Lisa Mitchell from Stockton Heath said the swing bridge openings have left her feeling ‘stressed’ as she is often unable to drop off and pick up her eight-year-old son from school on time.

She said: “Being late to work is an inconvenience but being late to pick up a child is unforgivable and causes unnecessary worry.

“I have three kids and, over the 11 years I have been walking them to school, it has definitely gotten worse.

“It used to be exciting to see a boat on the canal but now it causes panic.”

A meeting between Warrington Borough Council and Peel Ports is scheduled to take place on March 4 to discuss the growing problem of the opening of the swing bridges during rush hour.

Council leader Terry O’Neill is expected to attend along with executive board member for highways, transportation and climate change, Linda Dirir.
 

We want to hear your views about what can be done to alleviate the issues caused by the opening of the swing bridges.


Email lauren.hirst@nqnw.co.uk

LABOUR’S Nick Bent has condemned the Coalition Government for refusing to even consider a review of the Manchester Ship Canal Act.

The Labour candidate for Warrington South in next year’s General Election has since vowed to get a fair deal for Warrington motorists over the growing problem of peak-time swing bridge openings on the canal.

He is proposing a new plan to ensure a fair balance between traffic on the ship canal and on the town’s roads.

He believes that Peel Holdings and the Atlantic Gateway are ‘important commercial partners for Warrington and a mutually beneficial partnership is vital to the town’.

But the current Manchester Ship Canal Act may have to be broken in order to reach a compromise.

Mr Bent added: “Our roads are the lifeblood of Warrington but it seems Peel has its boot on our neck.

“I hope Peel will be reasonable but, if not, an independent tribunal may be the best way to balance traffic on the ship canal and our roads.”

He added that the Government has been ‘useless’ in tackling the problem and that David Mowat MP for Warrington South had raised the issue in the chamber of the House of Commons just once in nearly four years.

 

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9:23am Fri 14 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Had the photographer fell over in that first picture? or was he just dodging my fence panel as it blew past!
Still Grumpy
Had the photographer fell over in that first picture? or was he just dodging my fence panel as it blew past! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT

9:35am Fri 14 Feb 14

Quecumber says...

The bridge openings are a fact of life we live with on the "other side" but the rush hour openings and gridlock they cause are disruptive to traffic going in all directions at Bridge Foot and not just those to or from the South of Warrington. The lack of a viable crossing between Walton Bridge and Runcorn forces traffic through the centre of Warrington compounding the problem and pressures across the whole area.
The bridge openings are a fact of life we live with on the "other side" but the rush hour openings and gridlock they cause are disruptive to traffic going in all directions at Bridge Foot and not just those to or from the South of Warrington. The lack of a viable crossing between Walton Bridge and Runcorn forces traffic through the centre of Warrington compounding the problem and pressures across the whole area. Quecumber

9:42am Fri 14 Feb 14

WAFiver says...

Quecumber wrote:
The bridge openings are a fact of life we live with on the "other side" but the rush hour openings and gridlock they cause are disruptive to traffic going in all directions at Bridge Foot and not just those to or from the South of Warrington. The lack of a viable crossing between Walton Bridge and Runcorn forces traffic through the centre of Warrington compounding the problem and pressures across the whole area.
And, when the toll bridges open in Widnes, it will get worse.
[quote][p][bold]Quecumber[/bold] wrote: The bridge openings are a fact of life we live with on the "other side" but the rush hour openings and gridlock they cause are disruptive to traffic going in all directions at Bridge Foot and not just those to or from the South of Warrington. The lack of a viable crossing between Walton Bridge and Runcorn forces traffic through the centre of Warrington compounding the problem and pressures across the whole area.[/p][/quote]And, when the toll bridges open in Widnes, it will get worse. WAFiver

10:11am Fri 14 Feb 14

Paul6645 says...

Use the cantalever bridge then,I used too when the canal was busy in the early 80s. Every week Woolston residents have problems when Thelwall viaduct comes to it's usual standstill clogging up Manchester road all the way into town. God your talking about a maximum wait of 10 minutes whilst the bridge is closed not hours. More HGV wagons will be off the roads which is better for the environment and roads. Why not reopen the railway from Lymm into Warrington to ease traffic too it's only that bridge at Latchford.the one at Acton Grange was done a few years back so why not the Latchford one now?
Use the cantalever bridge then,I used too when the canal was busy in the early 80s. Every week Woolston residents have problems when Thelwall viaduct comes to it's usual standstill clogging up Manchester road all the way into town. God your talking about a maximum wait of 10 minutes whilst the bridge is closed not hours. More HGV wagons will be off the roads which is better for the environment and roads. Why not reopen the railway from Lymm into Warrington to ease traffic too it's only that bridge at Latchford.the one at Acton Grange was done a few years back so why not the Latchford one now? Paul6645

10:21am Fri 14 Feb 14

ninearches says...

If you need to use the bridges as part of your journey it makes perfect sense to allow for any hold ups & leave home 20 minutes early.
If you need to use the bridges as part of your journey it makes perfect sense to allow for any hold ups & leave home 20 minutes early. ninearches

10:24am Fri 14 Feb 14

dannyb210 says...

all that will happen is more cargo will be forced onto the roads and make congestion worse, its a ten min delay at the most.

people complaining about picking thier children up from school ect, they are the reason that the traffic is so heavy in the first place, try making parents utilise public transport or walk children to and from school.
all that will happen is more cargo will be forced onto the roads and make congestion worse, its a ten min delay at the most. people complaining about picking thier children up from school ect, they are the reason that the traffic is so heavy in the first place, try making parents utilise public transport or walk children to and from school. dannyb210

10:33am Fri 14 Feb 14

fedster says...

MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up. fedster

11:00am Fri 14 Feb 14

Curious_72 says...

fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes. Curious_72

11:03am Fri 14 Feb 14

Curious_72 says...

Paul6645 wrote:
Use the cantalever bridge then,I used too when the canal was busy in the early 80s. Every week Woolston residents have problems when Thelwall viaduct comes to it's usual standstill clogging up Manchester road all the way into town. God your talking about a maximum wait of 10 minutes whilst the bridge is closed not hours. More HGV wagons will be off the roads which is better for the environment and roads. Why not reopen the railway from Lymm into Warrington to ease traffic too it's only that bridge at Latchford.the one at Acton Grange was done a few years back so why not the Latchford one now?
A great suggestion, if you can get to it.....unless your at the Latchford swing bridge the chances of getting over Cantalever is slim because of the congestion. In the early 80's there were less cars on the road.......
[quote][p][bold]Paul6645[/bold] wrote: Use the cantalever bridge then,I used too when the canal was busy in the early 80s. Every week Woolston residents have problems when Thelwall viaduct comes to it's usual standstill clogging up Manchester road all the way into town. God your talking about a maximum wait of 10 minutes whilst the bridge is closed not hours. More HGV wagons will be off the roads which is better for the environment and roads. Why not reopen the railway from Lymm into Warrington to ease traffic too it's only that bridge at Latchford.the one at Acton Grange was done a few years back so why not the Latchford one now?[/p][/quote]A great suggestion, if you can get to it.....unless your at the Latchford swing bridge the chances of getting over Cantalever is slim because of the congestion. In the early 80's there were less cars on the road....... Curious_72

11:05am Fri 14 Feb 14

Curious_72 says...

These bridge openings don't just happen, Peel Ports should be able to provide a schedule of opening for anyone who wants to know, then the route can be planned accordingly whether that's to allow extra time, leave early to aviod or take a different route such as Cantalever.
These bridge openings don't just happen, Peel Ports should be able to provide a schedule of opening for anyone who wants to know, then the route can be planned accordingly whether that's to allow extra time, leave early to aviod or take a different route such as Cantalever. Curious_72

12:19pm Fri 14 Feb 14

grappenhall boy says...

I have noticed that over the past couple of weeks Coastal Deniz which passes through Warrington several times per week,has actually being doing so now early hrs of the morning,at the time of posting it is moored in Irlam we will have to see what time it returns.
The barge carrying equipment to the power station under construction in Carrington did go through this morning as mentioned by Curious.
Most ships have AIS tracking which can be viewed on line, unfortunately the Wynns barge does not have it fitted .
I have noticed that over the past couple of weeks Coastal Deniz which passes through Warrington several times per week,has actually being doing so now early hrs of the morning,at the time of posting it is moored in Irlam we will have to see what time it returns. The barge carrying equipment to the power station under construction in Carrington did go through this morning as mentioned by Curious. Most ships have AIS tracking which can be viewed on line, unfortunately the Wynns barge does not have it fitted . grappenhall boy

3:16pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Reader says...

Coastal Deniz has been going through much later.... after 11pm sometimes. I hope there's not going to be many more like that one going through later at night as it's bad enough in the day but at night the sounds and vibration from it seems 100% worse.
Coastal Deniz has been going through much later.... after 11pm sometimes. I hope there's not going to be many more like that one going through later at night as it's bad enough in the day but at night the sounds and vibration from it seems 100% worse. Reader

5:15pm Fri 14 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Reader wrote:
Coastal Deniz has been going through much later.... after 11pm sometimes. I hope there's not going to be many more like that one going through later at night as it's bad enough in the day but at night the sounds and vibration from it seems 100% worse.
So you don't want them at night or during 8-10am or 4-6pm what do you actually want? Probably hear more noise when it's raining on my conservatory roof get a grip it's a business get used to it they will be here to stay it's a fact. Really getting bored of this and.
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]Reader[/bold] wrote: Coastal Deniz has been going through much later.... after 11pm sometimes. I hope there's not going to be many more like that one going through later at night as it's bad enough in the day but at night the sounds and vibration from it seems 100% worse.[/p][/quote]So you don't want them at night or during 8-10am or 4-6pm what do you actually want? Probably hear more noise when it's raining on my conservatory roof get a grip it's a business get used to it they will be here to stay it's a fact. Really getting bored of this and. Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT

5:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

AppleJunkie says...

Curious_72 wrote:
fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.
That's twice today I got stuck at Walton, 4:45pm the bridges swung open to let the Costal Deniz through which had been sat at Latchford Locks since around 2.00pm, paranoid runs deep and I think that Peel Ports are playing games with us.
[quote][p][bold]Curious_72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.[/p][/quote]That's twice today I got stuck at Walton, 4:45pm the bridges swung open to let the Costal Deniz through which had been sat at Latchford Locks since around 2.00pm, paranoid runs deep and I think that Peel Ports are playing games with us. AppleJunkie

6:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

fedster says...

spoke to one of the workers at moor swing bridge other day he said and i quote

the bridges are prehistoric and need work.

took almost 39 minutes to get the bridge re aligned at Moore.

only took 6 minutes from barrier down to bridge open to ship passing through, but after they shut it poor chaps just couldn't get it aligned

so gotta ask who owns the bridges ?
spoke to one of the workers at moor swing bridge other day he said and i quote the bridges are prehistoric and need work. took almost 39 minutes to get the bridge re aligned at Moore. only took 6 minutes from barrier down to bridge open to ship passing through, but after they shut it poor chaps just couldn't get it aligned so gotta ask who owns the bridges ? fedster

8:10pm Fri 14 Feb 14

grey-area says...

WBC have had 20 years or more to look at this problem. Alternative high level crossings have been consigned to the archives. It's not good enough to say traffic on the canal had declined in recent years. It is there and so could be used at any time.

They didn't even plan for flying fence panels either did they Grumpy?
WBC have had 20 years or more to look at this problem. Alternative high level crossings have been consigned to the archives. It's not good enough to say traffic on the canal had declined in recent years. It is there and so could be used at any time. They didn't even plan for flying fence panels either did they Grumpy? grey-area

9:11pm Fri 14 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Curious_72 wrote:
fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.
Ten minutes the norm and it was rush hour. So the excuses of late appointments and pick-ups are unfounded as they just need forward planning
[quote][p][bold]Curious_72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.[/p][/quote]Ten minutes the norm and it was rush hour. So the excuses of late appointments and pick-ups are unfounded as they just need forward planning SAC_in_Warrington

10:43pm Fri 14 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

I seen the big container ship causing CHAOS at stockton heath ! at "5pm" !! now thats taking the mickey ! especially on a friday aswell !
I seen the big container ship causing CHAOS at stockton heath ! at "5pm" !! now thats taking the mickey ! especially on a friday aswell ! MAD 4 IT

9:51am Sat 15 Feb 14

old-codger says...

fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
NOT ONE, I have not seen a bridge off in rush hour for months, Its all panic, Get up earlier, Allow an extra fifteen minutes for your journey, I came over knutsford road swing bridge at 5.20pm last night (Friday) without any problems, People today are in to much of a hurry and do not allow enough time for a journey.
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]NOT ONE, I have not seen a bridge off in rush hour for months, Its all panic, Get up earlier, Allow an extra fifteen minutes for your journey, I came over knutsford road swing bridge at 5.20pm last night (Friday) without any problems, People today are in to much of a hurry and do not allow enough time for a journey. old-codger

10:30am Sat 15 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

WELL OLD CODGER ! the knutsford rd swing bridge was off at 4.45pm friday yesterday letting through a huge container ship ! KNOW-ALL ! YOU KNOW-NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WELL OLD CODGER ! the knutsford rd swing bridge was off at 4.45pm friday yesterday letting through a huge container ship ! KNOW-ALL ! YOU KNOW-NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAD 4 IT

11:53am Sat 15 Feb 14

Freeborn John says...

Gosh, there's lots of condemning and vowing going on, and as for scheduling and discussing, the local politicos are as busy as bees.
Must be a local election year then.
Gosh, there's lots of condemning and vowing going on, and as for scheduling and discussing, the local politicos are as busy as bees. Must be a local election year then. Freeborn John

6:34pm Sun 16 Feb 14

AppleJunkie says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curious_72 wrote:
fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.
Ten minutes the norm and it was rush hour. So the excuses of late appointments and pick-ups are unfounded as they just need forward planning
I wasn't complaining.... just pointing out that the bridges have swung during rush hours!!!! not once but twice in one day!
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curious_72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]Actually the bridges swung open at approv 8:45am this morning!!! I was stuck on Chester Road for 10 minutes.[/p][/quote]Ten minutes the norm and it was rush hour. So the excuses of late appointments and pick-ups are unfounded as they just need forward planning[/p][/quote]I wasn't complaining.... just pointing out that the bridges have swung during rush hours!!!! not once but twice in one day! AppleJunkie

6:37pm Sun 16 Feb 14

AppleJunkie says...

old-codger wrote:
fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
NOT ONE, I have not seen a bridge off in rush hour for months, Its all panic, Get up earlier, Allow an extra fifteen minutes for your journey, I came over knutsford road swing bridge at 5.20pm last night (Friday) without any problems, People today are in to much of a hurry and do not allow enough time for a journey.
RUBBISH! once at 8:45am and the other at 4:45pm, or are you calling my a liar?
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]NOT ONE, I have not seen a bridge off in rush hour for months, Its all panic, Get up earlier, Allow an extra fifteen minutes for your journey, I came over knutsford road swing bridge at 5.20pm last night (Friday) without any problems, People today are in to much of a hurry and do not allow enough time for a journey.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH! once at 8:45am and the other at 4:45pm, or are you calling my a liar? AppleJunkie

8:55pm Sun 16 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Let's put all this in context. Modifying the headline a little, "Warrington motorists hit out at Warrington's perennial grid lock traffic problem that those in control never seem to solve."
Let's put all this in context. Modifying the headline a little, "Warrington motorists hit out at Warrington's perennial grid lock traffic problem that those in control never seem to solve." grey-area

11:29pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

grey-area wrote:
Let's put all this in context. Modifying the headline a little, "Warrington motorists hit out at Warrington's perennial grid lock traffic problem that those in control never seem to solve."
I guess so as it is simple to understand for most people, but expect some adverse comments.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: Let's put all this in context. Modifying the headline a little, "Warrington motorists hit out at Warrington's perennial grid lock traffic problem that those in control never seem to solve."[/p][/quote]I guess so as it is simple to understand for most people, but expect some adverse comments. SAC_in_Warrington

8:27am Mon 17 Feb 14

dannyb210 says...

it is easy to find out when a ship is on the move down the canal, just check marinetraffic.com its easy and only takes 2 mins to check, i live on thelwall lane opposite the locks so keep an eye on the shipping, when a ship is due i leave for work a bit earlier..... never been late yet.

like iv said in other posts, peel ports should just chuck all the cargo on to the roads for a month then people will see how much of a blessing the canal is.

The bridges were open 120 times last year in rush hour..... there are 260 working days in the year.... 2 rush hours a day... 520 rush hours.

So there might be a bridge swing 1 in every 4.33 rush hours.

I could live with that.
it is easy to find out when a ship is on the move down the canal, just check marinetraffic.com its easy and only takes 2 mins to check, i live on thelwall lane opposite the locks so keep an eye on the shipping, when a ship is due i leave for work a bit earlier..... never been late yet. like iv said in other posts, peel ports should just chuck all the cargo on to the roads for a month then people will see how much of a blessing the canal is. The bridges were open 120 times last year in rush hour..... there are 260 working days in the year.... 2 rush hours a day... 520 rush hours. So there might be a bridge swing 1 in every 4.33 rush hours. I could live with that. dannyb210

12:47pm Mon 17 Feb 14

fedster says...

AppleJunkie wrote:
old-codger wrote:
fedster wrote:
MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time


do they blame public transport as well

since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour
so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.
NOT ONE, I have not seen a bridge off in rush hour for months, Its all panic, Get up earlier, Allow an extra fifteen minutes for your journey, I came over knutsford road swing bridge at 5.20pm last night (Friday) without any problems, People today are in to much of a hurry and do not allow enough time for a journey.
RUBBISH! once at 8:45am and the other at 4:45pm, or are you calling my a liar?
well no but it does seem that for some theirs a slight exaggeration of times
a few times ive been in it rushour am time and never been stuck for to long on chester road.

turn of the engine listen to a song or 2 then the traffic starts moving.


in fact iam guessing the idiots who try everything to get one more car further ahead cause more delays in traffic than a boat every blue moon.
as someone said one of the barges is not listed on the AIS site. but other than that the rest are and up till this week coastal has been doing late night runs if you want the proof got to my flikr page plenty of pics their.
[quote][p][bold]AppleJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: MISSED appointments, last warnings at work and children stranded at school while parents fight the rush hour traffic to get to school on time do they blame public transport as well since the first story went up NOT ONE single boat has passed in rush hour so seems people just dont leave enough time to get to work or pick the kids up.[/p][/quote]NOT ONE, I have not seen a bridge off in rush hour for months, Its all panic, Get up earlier, Allow an extra fifteen minutes for your journey, I came over knutsford road swing bridge at 5.20pm last night (Friday) without any problems, People today are in to much of a hurry and do not allow enough time for a journey.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH! once at 8:45am and the other at 4:45pm, or are you calling my a liar?[/p][/quote]well no but it does seem that for some theirs a slight exaggeration of times a few times ive been in it rushour am time and never been stuck for to long on chester road. turn of the engine listen to a song or 2 then the traffic starts moving. in fact iam guessing the idiots who try everything to get one more car further ahead cause more delays in traffic than a boat every blue moon. as someone said one of the barges is not listed on the AIS site. but other than that the rest are and up till this week coastal has been doing late night runs if you want the proof got to my flikr page plenty of pics their. fedster

4:47pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Penketh Pony says...

Buy a bicycle and leave your Range Rovers at home.
Buy a bicycle and leave your Range Rovers at home. Penketh Pony

9:40pm Mon 17 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

permanent "gridlock" in stockton heath ! also try parking outside your own TERRACE house in STOCKTON HEATH ! would rather live any where than there ! OVERATED & "OVER VALUED" TOTAL RIP OFF IN FACT !!!!!!
permanent "gridlock" in stockton heath ! also try parking outside your own TERRACE house in STOCKTON HEATH ! would rather live any where than there ! OVERATED & "OVER VALUED" TOTAL RIP OFF IN FACT !!!!!! MAD 4 IT

11:05pm Mon 17 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Penketh Pony wrote:
Buy a bicycle and leave your Range Rovers at home.
Yep, great advice. That will get you over the swing bridge when it's open. You will get a bit wet though. Alternatively, ride up to the Cantelever Bridge, stop for oxygen at the top, then look across - you will see the swing bridge is open again.
[quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: Buy a bicycle and leave your Range Rovers at home.[/p][/quote]Yep, great advice. That will get you over the swing bridge when it's open. You will get a bit wet though. Alternatively, ride up to the Cantelever Bridge, stop for oxygen at the top, then look across - you will see the swing bridge is open again. grey-area

1:01pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Penketh Pony says...

grey-area wrote:
Penketh Pony wrote:
Buy a bicycle and leave your Range Rovers at home.
Yep, great advice. That will get you over the swing bridge when it's open. You will get a bit wet though. Alternatively, ride up to the Cantelever Bridge, stop for oxygen at the top, then look across - you will see the swing bridge is open again.
Cycling means you can get to the front of the queue and not be held up in a huge backlog of traffic - a car cannot do that. The issue is about the detrimental effect the bridge closures will have on traffic - it isn't about creating alternative ways of getting over the Ship Canal, because that isn't a logical solution. Cycling is.
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Penketh Pony[/bold] wrote: Buy a bicycle and leave your Range Rovers at home.[/p][/quote]Yep, great advice. That will get you over the swing bridge when it's open. You will get a bit wet though. Alternatively, ride up to the Cantelever Bridge, stop for oxygen at the top, then look across - you will see the swing bridge is open again.[/p][/quote]Cycling means you can get to the front of the queue and not be held up in a huge backlog of traffic - a car cannot do that. The issue is about the detrimental effect the bridge closures will have on traffic - it isn't about creating alternative ways of getting over the Ship Canal, because that isn't a logical solution. Cycling is. Penketh Pony

1:54pm Tue 18 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

if i see a cyclist coming towards me on the pavement ! i walk in the middle of the pavement ! why should i move for a MUPPET CYCLIST !!!!!!!
if i see a cyclist coming towards me on the pavement ! i walk in the middle of the pavement ! why should i move for a MUPPET CYCLIST !!!!!!! MAD 4 IT

8:20am Wed 19 Feb 14

dannyb210 says...

ah the school holidays..... bridges be a-swingin, no problems with traffic.
ah the school holidays..... bridges be a-swingin, no problems with traffic. dannyb210

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