UPDATED: St Gregory's 'inadequate in all areas'

St Gregory's High School

St Gregory's High School

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ST Gregory’s High School was slammed for ‘dull’ teaching, ‘disruptive’ lessons and for failing to meet students’ learning needs following a disastrous Ofsted inspection.

In the full report, inspectors declared the school on Cromwell Avenue as inadequate in all areas.

The quality of teaching, the achievement of pupils, the behaviour and safety in the school and the quality of the leadership were all deemed to be failing - and given the worst score possible by inspectors.

It follows a visit from inspectors in December, which saw the Cromwell Avenue school drop from outstanding to inadequate.

The school was consequently placed in special measure and told it rapidly needs to improve.

Science lessons were flagged up as ‘weak’ due to ‘consistently poor teaching’ causing achievement in the subject to remain low.

A number of parents have sent in letters of complaint regarding the quality of teaching and achievement in science, and, although some action has been taken, it has not been rigorous enough.

Lessons in PE, RE and design and technology were also labelled as inadequate.

Pupils, who are disabled, have special educational needs or those eligible for extra support, also make inadequate progress due to low standards in teaching and the curriculum which has resulted in poor attendance.

Despite pupils saying they feel safe at the school, homophobic language, swearing and disruption is not uncommon and would not always be addressed by teachers.

One group of students, who were questioned on why they misbehave, replied ‘because we can’.

The school is also under inspection for a ‘serious incident’ that took place at the school since the last Ofsted inspection but no further details on the incident were given.

Leaders and managers were told they had an ‘inaccurate’ view of school standards and that policies in place to deal with behaviour including bullying, safety and inclusion were either ‘out of date, inappropriate or ineffective’.

Governors have also been alerted to a serious deficit and the council is currently working with the school to investigate financial irregularities.

Despite the damming report, it was added that the new executive head teacher, David Lewis, had a clear understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the school.

Mr Lewis said: “While there are many things that require a lot of work here, the Ofsted report did highlight key strengths at the school, ranging from achievement in English and maths being strong to the observation of some exemplary teaching in drama.

“Last year 89 per cent of our students attained A* to C grades in maths, and 83 per cent in English.

"Our GCSE results were significantly better than the national average, and this is undoubtedly a firm grounding on which to improve.”

The council’s operational director for children and young people’s universal services, Sarah Callaghan said the school had its full support.

Two National Leaders of Education have been deployed to work with the school, one to focus on leadership, accountability, governance and behaviour and safety and one to focus on teaching and learning.

A meeting will be held at the school on Thursday at 7pm for concerned parents. 

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9:35am Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Look's like the children would be better teaching each other!
Look's like the children would be better teaching each other! GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -18

2:41pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Mike_1979 says...

Now that the dust has settled and the full report is out, I've seen a lot of support for St Gregory's. There are clearly some valid areas for improvement (although the report overall is still baffling) and I hope all parents will head to the meeting next Thursday to express their support for the steps that need to be taken.

With the right support and a positive approach, St Gregory's can and will knock the next inspection out of the proverbial park.
Now that the dust has settled and the full report is out, I've seen a lot of support for St Gregory's. There are clearly some valid areas for improvement (although the report overall is still baffling) and I hope all parents will head to the meeting next Thursday to express their support for the steps that need to be taken. With the right support and a positive approach, St Gregory's can and will knock the next inspection out of the proverbial park. Mike_1979
  • Score: 15

2:41pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Tim_321 says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Look's like the children would be better teaching each other!
Did you read the report?

Most of the comments seem to be focused on under performance in Science and PE as well as behaviour, leadership and discipline issues. A number of these are stated as having had procedures put in place to improve them but that these are too recent to judge the results from

It states that achievement in subjects including English, Maths, Drama and Music are strong.

It seems to pass no judgement on other subjects such as Art, French etc..

73% of St Gregory's pupils achieved 5 or more A* - C GCSEs (Including Maths and English) last year, I find the idea that is should be in special measures somewhat absurd (73% is the 3rd highest from over 20+ secondary schools in the area). Stats taken from the Guardians website.

Areas for improvement are clearly highlighted from this and hopefully with positive support from staff and parents these can be achieved.

Your statement seems utterly unproductive considering pupils are still leaving St Gregory's with a high standard of education and results in most areas.

If you are grumpy, it is time to do something about it, read the report and get involved!
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: Look's like the children would be better teaching each other![/p][/quote]Did you read the report? Most of the comments seem to be focused on under performance in Science and PE as well as behaviour, leadership and discipline issues. A number of these are stated as having had procedures put in place to improve them but that these are too recent to judge the results from It states that achievement in subjects including English, Maths, Drama and Music are strong. It seems to pass no judgement on other subjects such as Art, French etc.. 73% of St Gregory's pupils achieved 5 or more A* - C GCSEs (Including Maths and English) last year, I find the idea that is should be in special measures somewhat absurd (73% is the 3rd highest from over 20+ secondary schools in the area). Stats taken from the Guardians website. Areas for improvement are clearly highlighted from this and hopefully with positive support from staff and parents these can be achieved. Your statement seems utterly unproductive considering pupils are still leaving St Gregory's with a high standard of education and results in most areas. If you are grumpy, it is time to do something about it, read the report and get involved! Tim_321
  • Score: 20

3:17pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GentleBen says...

I've read the report today and I can't believe they're talking about St Gregory's. My kids both attend the school and I've never had any complaints. Whilst not the greatest at lessons, they've both been nurtured to good grades and they come home from school with a great attitude.

The staff have changed about a bit and so maybe they need time to settle in, but the school is great!

I agree with Tim above, get involved or don't, but sniping on the internet is pretty sad.
I've read the report today and I can't believe they're talking about St Gregory's. My kids both attend the school and I've never had any complaints. Whilst not the greatest at lessons, they've both been nurtured to good grades and they come home from school with a great attitude. The staff have changed about a bit and so maybe they need time to settle in, but the school is great! I agree with Tim above, get involved or don't, but sniping on the internet is pretty sad. GentleBen
  • Score: 6

3:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Tim_321 wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Look's like the children would be better teaching each other!
Did you read the report?

Most of the comments seem to be focused on under performance in Science and PE as well as behaviour, leadership and discipline issues. A number of these are stated as having had procedures put in place to improve them but that these are too recent to judge the results from

It states that achievement in subjects including English, Maths, Drama and Music are strong.

It seems to pass no judgement on other subjects such as Art, French etc..

73% of St Gregory's pupils achieved 5 or more A* - C GCSEs (Including Maths and English) last year, I find the idea that is should be in special measures somewhat absurd (73% is the 3rd highest from over 20+ secondary schools in the area). Stats taken from the Guardians website.

Areas for improvement are clearly highlighted from this and hopefully with positive support from staff and parents these can be achieved.

Your statement seems utterly unproductive considering pupils are still leaving St Gregory's with a high standard of education and results in most areas.

If you are grumpy, it is time to do something about it, read the report and get involved!
The quality of teaching, the achievement of pupils, the behaviour and safety in the school and the quality of the leadership were all deemed to be failing.

Science lessons were flagged up as ‘weak’ due to ‘consistently poor teaching’ causing achievement in the subject to remain low.

A number of parents have sent in letters of complaint regarding the quality of teaching and achievement in science, and, although some action has been taken, it has not been rigorous enough.

Pupils, who are disabled, have special educational needs or those eligible for extra support, also make inadequate progress due to low standards in teaching

Despite pupils saying they feel safe at the school, homophobic language, swearing and disruption is not uncommon and would not always be addressed by teachers.

All seem's to focus on lack of teacher ability to me. No I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school. Will the so called "teachers" be held accountable though? me think's not!
Still Grumpy (and no I will not do anything about the fact)
[quote][p][bold]Tim_321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: Look's like the children would be better teaching each other![/p][/quote]Did you read the report? Most of the comments seem to be focused on under performance in Science and PE as well as behaviour, leadership and discipline issues. A number of these are stated as having had procedures put in place to improve them but that these are too recent to judge the results from It states that achievement in subjects including English, Maths, Drama and Music are strong. It seems to pass no judgement on other subjects such as Art, French etc.. 73% of St Gregory's pupils achieved 5 or more A* - C GCSEs (Including Maths and English) last year, I find the idea that is should be in special measures somewhat absurd (73% is the 3rd highest from over 20+ secondary schools in the area). Stats taken from the Guardians website. Areas for improvement are clearly highlighted from this and hopefully with positive support from staff and parents these can be achieved. Your statement seems utterly unproductive considering pupils are still leaving St Gregory's with a high standard of education and results in most areas. If you are grumpy, it is time to do something about it, read the report and get involved![/p][/quote]The quality of teaching, the achievement of pupils, the behaviour and safety in the school and the quality of the leadership were all deemed to be failing. Science lessons were flagged up as ‘weak’ due to ‘consistently poor teaching’ causing achievement in the subject to remain low. A number of parents have sent in letters of complaint regarding the quality of teaching and achievement in science, and, although some action has been taken, it has not been rigorous enough. Pupils, who are disabled, have special educational needs or those eligible for extra support, also make inadequate progress due to low standards in teaching Despite pupils saying they feel safe at the school, homophobic language, swearing and disruption is not uncommon and would not always be addressed by teachers. All seem's to focus on lack of teacher ability to me. No I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school. Will the so called "teachers" be held accountable though? me think's not! Still Grumpy (and no I will not do anything about the fact) GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -11

3:53pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Mike_1979 says...

"I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school".

This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.
"I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school". This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo. Mike_1979
  • Score: -1

4:04pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Tim_321 says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Tim_321 wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Look's like the children would be better teaching each other!
Did you read the report?

Most of the comments seem to be focused on under performance in Science and PE as well as behaviour, leadership and discipline issues. A number of these are stated as having had procedures put in place to improve them but that these are too recent to judge the results from

It states that achievement in subjects including English, Maths, Drama and Music are strong.

It seems to pass no judgement on other subjects such as Art, French etc..

73% of St Gregory's pupils achieved 5 or more A* - C GCSEs (Including Maths and English) last year, I find the idea that is should be in special measures somewhat absurd (73% is the 3rd highest from over 20+ secondary schools in the area). Stats taken from the Guardians website.

Areas for improvement are clearly highlighted from this and hopefully with positive support from staff and parents these can be achieved.

Your statement seems utterly unproductive considering pupils are still leaving St Gregory's with a high standard of education and results in most areas.

If you are grumpy, it is time to do something about it, read the report and get involved!
The quality of teaching, the achievement of pupils, the behaviour and safety in the school and the quality of the leadership were all deemed to be failing.

Science lessons were flagged up as ‘weak’ due to ‘consistently poor teaching’ causing achievement in the subject to remain low.

A number of parents have sent in letters of complaint regarding the quality of teaching and achievement in science, and, although some action has been taken, it has not been rigorous enough.

Pupils, who are disabled, have special educational needs or those eligible for extra support, also make inadequate progress due to low standards in teaching

Despite pupils saying they feel safe at the school, homophobic language, swearing and disruption is not uncommon and would not always be addressed by teachers.

All seem's to focus on lack of teacher ability to me. No I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school. Will the so called "teachers" be held accountable though? me think's not!
Still Grumpy (and no I will not do anything about the fact)
So all your knowledge on this is based upon what you have read in this article rather than the full report? You understand that these are the conclusions drawn from the report by someone else and that by not drawing your own conclusions you are in effect letting someone else do your thinking for you?

For someone so interested in how (other people's) children are educated you aren't willing to educate yourself before commenting. No need to quote the article, I have read this as well and the report, hence my points above that you have chosen to ignore.

If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

Once you have sufficiently educated yourself please feel free to come back and have an informed discussion on the topic.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim_321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: Look's like the children would be better teaching each other![/p][/quote]Did you read the report? Most of the comments seem to be focused on under performance in Science and PE as well as behaviour, leadership and discipline issues. A number of these are stated as having had procedures put in place to improve them but that these are too recent to judge the results from It states that achievement in subjects including English, Maths, Drama and Music are strong. It seems to pass no judgement on other subjects such as Art, French etc.. 73% of St Gregory's pupils achieved 5 or more A* - C GCSEs (Including Maths and English) last year, I find the idea that is should be in special measures somewhat absurd (73% is the 3rd highest from over 20+ secondary schools in the area). Stats taken from the Guardians website. Areas for improvement are clearly highlighted from this and hopefully with positive support from staff and parents these can be achieved. Your statement seems utterly unproductive considering pupils are still leaving St Gregory's with a high standard of education and results in most areas. If you are grumpy, it is time to do something about it, read the report and get involved![/p][/quote]The quality of teaching, the achievement of pupils, the behaviour and safety in the school and the quality of the leadership were all deemed to be failing. Science lessons were flagged up as ‘weak’ due to ‘consistently poor teaching’ causing achievement in the subject to remain low. A number of parents have sent in letters of complaint regarding the quality of teaching and achievement in science, and, although some action has been taken, it has not been rigorous enough. Pupils, who are disabled, have special educational needs or those eligible for extra support, also make inadequate progress due to low standards in teaching Despite pupils saying they feel safe at the school, homophobic language, swearing and disruption is not uncommon and would not always be addressed by teachers. All seem's to focus on lack of teacher ability to me. No I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school. Will the so called "teachers" be held accountable though? me think's not! Still Grumpy (and no I will not do anything about the fact)[/p][/quote]So all your knowledge on this is based upon what you have read in this article rather than the full report? You understand that these are the conclusions drawn from the report by someone else and that by not drawing your own conclusions you are in effect letting someone else do your thinking for you? For someone so interested in how (other people's) children are educated you aren't willing to educate yourself before commenting. No need to quote the article, I have read this as well and the report, hence my points above that you have chosen to ignore. If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. Once you have sufficiently educated yourself please feel free to come back and have an informed discussion on the topic. Tim_321
  • Score: 17

4:07pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Mike_1979 wrote:
"I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school".

This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.
Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then!
No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's?
I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school!
Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion.
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: "I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school". This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.[/p][/quote]Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then! No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's? I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -11

4:14pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

£3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground".

Still Grumpy
If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. £3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground". Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -12

4:21pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Mike_1979 says...

Oh, Grumpy.You are a one.

I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest.

My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back.

Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.
Oh, Grumpy.You are a one. I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest. My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant. Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back. Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go. Mike_1979
  • Score: 9

4:28pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Tim_321 says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

£3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground".

Still Grumpy
"Still Grumpy"... what all that money doesn't buy you happiness?

Private vs Public school debate is for somewhere else.

This is a discussion about how to improve the school that some of us actually have an interest in.

I am done engaging with an ill informed internet troll and will now go back to looking at how to constructively work on the issues in the report with people who actually have something to do with it.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. £3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground". Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]"Still Grumpy"... what all that money doesn't buy you happiness? Private vs Public school debate is for somewhere else. This is a discussion about how to improve the school that some of us actually have an interest in. I am done engaging with an ill informed internet troll and will now go back to looking at how to constructively work on the issues in the report with people who actually have something to do with it. Tim_321
  • Score: 14

4:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Mike_1979 wrote:
Oh, Grumpy.You are a one.

I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest.

My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back.

Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.
So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair!
I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: Oh, Grumpy.You are a one. I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest. My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant. Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back. Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.[/p][/quote]So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair! I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -11

4:45pm Fri 7 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Look's like the children would be better teaching each other!
That comment is just absolutely nonsensical in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: Look's like the children would be better teaching each other![/p][/quote]That comment is just absolutely nonsensical in my opinion. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 8

4:50pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Look's like the children would be better teaching each other!
That comment is just absolutely nonsensical in my opinion.
And so is your's in my opinion!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: Look's like the children would be better teaching each other![/p][/quote]That comment is just absolutely nonsensical in my opinion.[/p][/quote]And so is your's in my opinion! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -10

4:58pm Fri 7 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

"The only way is up".

so come the next report or the review on progress of the current one I will have no doubt that there will be some very significant improvements for Ofsted to see and report on.
"The only way is up". so come the next report or the review on progress of the current one I will have no doubt that there will be some very significant improvements for Ofsted to see and report on. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 7

5:03pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
"The only way is up".

so come the next report or the review on progress of the current one I will have no doubt that there will be some very significant improvements for Ofsted to see and report on.
In your opinion!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: "The only way is up". so come the next report or the review on progress of the current one I will have no doubt that there will be some very significant improvements for Ofsted to see and report on.[/p][/quote]In your opinion! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -8

5:06pm Fri 7 Feb 14

PageA says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

£3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground".

Still Grumpy
Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. £3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground". Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy? PageA
  • Score: -2

5:23pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GentleBen says...

I agree with everyone except the troll. It's great to see that the folks who have an association with the school are constructive and leaning towards positive.

The one person here with no stake in the school, not so much.

Onwards and upwards for the kids.
I agree with everyone except the troll. It's great to see that the folks who have an association with the school are constructive and leaning towards positive. The one person here with no stake in the school, not so much. Onwards and upwards for the kids. GentleBen
  • Score: 8

5:24pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GentleBen says...

Oh and on the internet, when you start to lose an argument and then immediately claim that your opposition is not who they say you are...

That makes you look quite silly :)

Nothing but love.
Oh and on the internet, when you start to lose an argument and then immediately claim that your opposition is not who they say you are... That makes you look quite silly :) Nothing but love. GentleBen
  • Score: 2

5:46pm Fri 7 Feb 14

PageA says...

GentleBen wrote:
I agree with everyone except the troll. It's great to see that the folks who have an association with the school are constructive and leaning towards positive.

The one person here with no stake in the school, not so much.

Onwards and upwards for the kids.
It's great for the parents and pupils to have this inspection result in my opinion. Hopefully it will be a great leveller. The staff need to eat a bit of humble pie and work with the parents and pupils to put things right..and that doesnt mean back to how things were before you got busted. A new approach for you..Remember why you became teachers, it wasnt to measure skirt lengths, it was to inspire
[quote][p][bold]GentleBen[/bold] wrote: I agree with everyone except the troll. It's great to see that the folks who have an association with the school are constructive and leaning towards positive. The one person here with no stake in the school, not so much. Onwards and upwards for the kids.[/p][/quote]It's great for the parents and pupils to have this inspection result in my opinion. Hopefully it will be a great leveller. The staff need to eat a bit of humble pie and work with the parents and pupils to put things right..and that doesnt mean back to how things were before you got busted. A new approach for you..Remember why you became teachers, it wasnt to measure skirt lengths, it was to inspire PageA
  • Score: 3

6:14pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BooksCatsCoffee says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
"I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school".

This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.
Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then!
No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's?
I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school!
Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion.
Still Grumpy
Guess you're one of the said "inadequate" teachers then? No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the students will let you know how they feel about the teachers' inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Shouldn't some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teachers" for falling below the expected standards of what teachers are supposed to achieve for their students? I await the thumbs down from the so-called teachers of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy


Well, no wonder you're 'Still Grumpy', my friend! Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? When you seek to educate yourself, emotionally or grammatically, for God's sake don't go to St. Gregory's - I read it one article they're rubbish!

Have a lovely Friday :)
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: "I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school". This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.[/p][/quote]Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then! No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's? I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Guess [bold]you're[/bold] one of the said "inadequate" [bold]teachers[/bold] then[bold]?[/bold] No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the [bold]students[/bold] will let you know how they feel about the [bold]teachers'[/bold] inability to actually do what they get paid to do. [bold]Shouldn't[/bold] some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate [bold]teachers[/bold]" for falling below the expected standards of what [bold]teachers[/bold] are supposed to achieve for their [bold]students[/bold]? I await the [bold]thumbs[/bold] down from the [bold]so-called teachers[/bold] of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy Well, no wonder you're 'Still Grumpy', my friend! Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? When you seek to educate yourself, emotionally or grammatically, for God's sake don't go to St. Gregory's - I read it one article they're rubbish! Have a lovely Friday :) BooksCatsCoffee
  • Score: 8

6:30pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Mike_1979 says...

BooksCatsCoffee... I love you and I want to have your terribly literate babies.
BooksCatsCoffee... I love you and I want to have your terribly literate babies. Mike_1979
  • Score: 6

7:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

harley70 says...

As a parent shocked at the special measures result but not entirely surprised at some of the identified failings. Hopefully slt and governors will listen and take on the views and ideas from teachers students and parents by working together I am sure st gregs will turn itself around in no time.
As a parent shocked at the special measures result but not entirely surprised at some of the identified failings. Hopefully slt and governors will listen and take on the views and ideas from teachers students and parents by working together I am sure st gregs will turn itself around in no time. harley70
  • Score: 8

8:53am Sat 8 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
Oh, Grumpy.You are a one.

I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest.

My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back.

Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.
So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair!
I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood!
Still Grumpy
Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you.

examples
"..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy)

"...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: Oh, Grumpy.You are a one. I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest. My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant. Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back. Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.[/p][/quote]So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair! I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you. examples "..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy) "...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy) Nick Tessla
  • Score: 6

2:55pm Sat 8 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
Oh, Grumpy.You are a one.

I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest.

My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back.

Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.
So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair!
I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood!
Still Grumpy
Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you.

examples
"..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy)

"...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)
Wow your clever Nick pick on grammar ever thought of getting a job at St Greggs sure you will do well!
Still Grumpy (but even I know you don't use capital letters in brackets!)
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: Oh, Grumpy.You are a one. I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest. My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant. Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back. Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.[/p][/quote]So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair! I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you. examples "..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy) "...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)[/p][/quote]Wow your clever Nick pick on grammar ever thought of getting a job at St Greggs sure you will do well! Still Grumpy (but even I know you don't use capital letters in brackets!) GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -2

3:05pm Sat 8 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

BooksCatsCoffee wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
"I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school".

This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.
Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then!
No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's?
I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school!
Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion.
Still Grumpy
Guess you're one of the said "inadequate" teachers then? No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the students will let you know how they feel about the teachers' inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Shouldn't some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teachers" for falling below the expected standards of what teachers are supposed to achieve for their students? I await the thumbs down from the so-called teachers of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy


Well, no wonder you're 'Still Grumpy', my friend! Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? When you seek to educate yourself, emotionally or grammatically, for God's sake don't go to St. Gregory's - I read it one article they're rubbish!

Have a lovely Friday :)
You don't have to be educated grammatically to have money! I know scrap dealers with no education who are multi millionaires. With all your grammatical skills what do you do and where has it got you and your kids. No where. Another moron who can only pick on grammar rather than come up with something constructive.
Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? ( should that be a question mark at the end of that statement? The some!!) We can all do the spell check .
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]BooksCatsCoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: "I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school". This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.[/p][/quote]Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then! No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's? I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Guess [bold]you're[/bold] one of the said "inadequate" [bold]teachers[/bold] then[bold]?[/bold] No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the [bold]students[/bold] will let you know how they feel about the [bold]teachers'[/bold] inability to actually do what they get paid to do. [bold]Shouldn't[/bold] some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate [bold]teachers[/bold]" for falling below the expected standards of what [bold]teachers[/bold] are supposed to achieve for their [bold]students[/bold]? I await the [bold]thumbs[/bold] down from the [bold]so-called teachers[/bold] of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy Well, no wonder you're 'Still Grumpy', my friend! Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? When you seek to educate yourself, emotionally or grammatically, for God's sake don't go to St. Gregory's - I read it one article they're rubbish! Have a lovely Friday :)[/p][/quote]You don't have to be educated grammatically to have money! I know scrap dealers with no education who are multi millionaires. With all your grammatical skills what do you do and where has it got you and your kids. No where. Another moron who can only pick on grammar rather than come up with something constructive. Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? ( should that be a question mark at the end of that statement? The some!!) We can all do the spell check . Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -5

3:09pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
Oh, Grumpy.You are a one.

I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest.

My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back.

Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.
So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair!
I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood!
Still Grumpy
Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you.

examples
"..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy)

"...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)
Wow your clever Nick pick on grammar ever thought of getting a job at St Greggs sure you will do well!
Still Grumpy (but even I know you don't use capital letters in brackets!)
It must be my state education, guv. *touches forelock* (The capital letters were for emphasis)

The question should have been finished with a question mark. Ask your kids about it.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: Oh, Grumpy.You are a one. I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest. My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant. Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back. Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.[/p][/quote]So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair! I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you. examples "..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy) "...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)[/p][/quote]Wow your clever Nick pick on grammar ever thought of getting a job at St Greggs sure you will do well! Still Grumpy (but even I know you don't use capital letters in brackets!)[/p][/quote]It must be my state education, guv. *touches forelock* (The capital letters were for emphasis) The question should have been finished with a question mark. Ask your kids about it. Nick Tessla
  • Score: 2

3:20pm Sat 8 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

PageA wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

£3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground".

Still Grumpy
Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?
What is a bus PageA only lower classes use them not my kids!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. £3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground". Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?[/p][/quote]What is a bus PageA only lower classes use them not my kids! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -4

3:23pm Sat 8 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
Oh, Grumpy.You are a one.

I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest.

My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back.

Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.
So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair!
I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood!
Still Grumpy
Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you.

examples
"..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy)

"...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)
Wow your clever Nick pick on grammar ever thought of getting a job at St Greggs sure you will do well!
Still Grumpy (but even I know you don't use capital letters in brackets!)
It must be my state education, guv. *touches forelock* (The capital letters were for emphasis)

The question should have been finished with a question mark. Ask your kids about it.
Emphasis on your poor education Nick, yes I can go along with that!
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: Oh, Grumpy.You are a one. I'm not a teacher at this or any other school. I have a child at the school hence my interest. My point above still stands and I'll leave it there. The level of discussion isn't going to approach constructive. To be honest, if you've not got a child at the school your opinion doesn't seem particularly relevant. Tim, I hope we can work with the rest of the parents, staff and pupils at the school to move on from this set back. Trip, trap. Trip, trap. Over the bridge we go.[/p][/quote]So you are allowed to comment on Warrington's bridges and where I live even though you don't live here. But I am not allowed to comment on your school because my children don't attend and I don't live in your area? That seem's fair! I am not interested in your report or your school, but I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's regarding their experience of the school. (in the other story). Basically it's the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's (or their attire) in any other employment sector you fail you get sacked. St Greggs get rid of the dead wood and bring in fresh blood! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Considering your ungrammatical use of apostrophes, I can only hope your children are receiving a better education for the money than you. examples "..I will defend comment's made against pupil's comment's " (Triple Whammy) "...the teacher's that seem to be failing this school not the pupil's ..." (Double Whammy)[/p][/quote]Wow your clever Nick pick on grammar ever thought of getting a job at St Greggs sure you will do well! Still Grumpy (but even I know you don't use capital letters in brackets!)[/p][/quote]It must be my state education, guv. *touches forelock* (The capital letters were for emphasis) The question should have been finished with a question mark. Ask your kids about it.[/p][/quote]Emphasis on your poor education Nick, yes I can go along with that! Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -4

4:33pm Sat 8 Feb 14

GRUMPY PARENT says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

£3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground".

Still Grumpy
Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?
What is a bus PageA only lower classes use them not my kids!
Still Grumpy
Oh and PageA as you are always defending certain types of people (you know what I am on about) If my children were wearing little hats but were black children and spat on at bus stops, would you also find that acceptable?
Social racist.
Still Grumpy
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. £3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground". Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?[/p][/quote]What is a bus PageA only lower classes use them not my kids! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Oh and PageA as you are always defending certain types of people (you know what I am on about) If my children were wearing little hats but were black children and spat on at bus stops, would you also find that acceptable? Social racist. Still Grumpy GRUMPY PARENT
  • Score: -1

5:08pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Mick17 says...

I note that The Kings Acadamy has now had its planning permission granted. It's a sad endietment of the WBC Education Dept that so many parents are now desperate for an alternative to the service that they provide. Speaking to parents of children at Kings, and looking at its curriculum and values, I really do see the attraction of Kings. Having seen first hand how the council work in this area (my sons school also went from "outstanding" to going into "special measures") I feel it's the councils education department who are "not fit for purpose" and are driving people to look for alternatives to there ineptitude.
I note that The Kings Acadamy has now had its planning permission granted. It's a sad endietment of the WBC Education Dept that so many parents are now desperate for an alternative to the service that they provide. Speaking to parents of children at Kings, and looking at its curriculum and values, I really do see the attraction of Kings. Having seen first hand how the council work in this area (my sons school also went from "outstanding" to going into "special measures") I feel it's the councils education department who are "not fit for purpose" and are driving people to look for alternatives to there ineptitude. Mick17
  • Score: 3

7:05pm Sat 8 Feb 14

PageA says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
PageA wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground.

£3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground".

Still Grumpy
Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?
What is a bus PageA only lower classes use them not my kids!
Still Grumpy
Oh and PageA as you are always defending certain types of people (you know what I am on about) If my children were wearing little hats but were black children and spat on at bus stops, would you also find that acceptable?
Social racist.
Still Grumpy
Hey hey! Calm down calm down Dopey, I didn't say I condoned it, I just asked the question is all. I remember now, you travel around by helicopter. To conclude..no children should be insulted or spat at, even the spawn of Dopey
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: If you do not have children at the school, or have no connection to the school I don't see what your interest in taking shots at it is... or is this a "my school is better than your school" thing? If so keep it on the playground. £3000 a term would suggest my school is better than St Greggs Tim! And said on the "playground". Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Your kids arent the ones with the little hats who get spat on at the bus stop are they grumpy?[/p][/quote]What is a bus PageA only lower classes use them not my kids! Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Oh and PageA as you are always defending certain types of people (you know what I am on about) If my children were wearing little hats but were black children and spat on at bus stops, would you also find that acceptable? Social racist. Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Hey hey! Calm down calm down Dopey, I didn't say I condoned it, I just asked the question is all. I remember now, you travel around by helicopter. To conclude..no children should be insulted or spat at, even the spawn of Dopey PageA
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Sat 8 Feb 14

PageA says...

....and I wish young Dwayne and Britney all the best in their future lives
....and I wish young Dwayne and Britney all the best in their future lives PageA
  • Score: 5

12:28pm Sun 9 Feb 14

BooksCatsCoffee says...

GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
BooksCatsCoffee wrote:
GRUMPY PARENT wrote:
Mike_1979 wrote:
"I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school".

This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.
Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then!
No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's?
I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school!
Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion.
Still Grumpy
Guess you're one of the said "inadequate" teachers then? No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the students will let you know how they feel about the teachers' inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Shouldn't some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teachers" for falling below the expected standards of what teachers are supposed to achieve for their students? I await the thumbs down from the so-called teachers of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy


Well, no wonder you're 'Still Grumpy', my friend! Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? When you seek to educate yourself, emotionally or grammatically, for God's sake don't go to St. Gregory's - I read it one article they're rubbish!

Have a lovely Friday :)
You don't have to be educated grammatically to have money! I know scrap dealers with no education who are multi millionaires. With all your grammatical skills what do you do and where has it got you and your kids. No where. Another moron who can only pick on grammar rather than come up with something constructive.
Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? ( should that be a question mark at the end of that statement? The some!!) We can all do the spell check .
Still Grumpy
There was no link, implied or otherwise, between money and grammar - merely an observation that you seem to use your own children's' education as a stick to beat other people with.

As you don't know what I do, or 'where it has got my children', to call me a moron and say I have got nowhere is clearly a sweeping assumption - much like the continued assumptions you make on here. In fact, I'm more than aware how much a scrap dealer makes as my Dad works on a scrap yard, so if you need any help climbing off your high horse then feel free to let me know.

In reference to the idea of 'coming up with something constructive', might I draw your attention to your continual badmouthing of all other posters and the school on this site? Please show me the plethora of constructive and helpful suggestions that you have brought to the mix.

Feel free to reply to this, or don't Grumpy, you're obviously dedicating time to this, because you love to argue. If you want to carry on doing so... feel free to do it by yourself.


P.S. In answer to your question 'Perhaps you could siphon some that £9000 per annum education from your children?' is what is called a rhetorical question - a statement used to imply a question. So, yes, it should be a question mark. Much like there should have been a question mark at the end of 'where has it got you and your kids'. Read a book, mate.
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BooksCatsCoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_1979[/bold] wrote: "I have no interest in reading the report as I would not insult my children to attend such a school". This makes Tim's point for him on a number of levels. Bravo.[/p][/quote]Guess your one of the said "inadequate" teacher's then! No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the student's will let you know how they feel about the teacher's inability to actually do what they get paid to do. Should'nt some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate teacher's" for falling below the expected standards of what teacher's are supposed to achieve for their student's? I await the thumb's down from the so called teacher's of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]Guess [bold]you're[/bold] one of the said "inadequate" [bold]teachers[/bold] then[bold]?[/bold] No interest in the report, and as per the previous story I am pretty sure the [bold]students[/bold] will let you know how they feel about the [bold]teachers'[/bold] inability to actually do what they get paid to do. [bold]Shouldn't[/bold] some kind of disciplinary action be taken against the "inadequate [bold]teachers[/bold]" for falling below the expected standards of what [bold]teachers[/bold] are supposed to achieve for their [bold]students[/bold]? I await the [bold]thumbs[/bold] down from the [bold]so-called teachers[/bold] of this school! Fail at your job = sacked, in my opinion. Still Grumpy Well, no wonder you're 'Still Grumpy', my friend! Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? When you seek to educate yourself, emotionally or grammatically, for God's sake don't go to St. Gregory's - I read it one article they're rubbish! Have a lovely Friday :)[/p][/quote]You don't have to be educated grammatically to have money! I know scrap dealers with no education who are multi millionaires. With all your grammatical skills what do you do and where has it got you and your kids. No where. Another moron who can only pick on grammar rather than come up with something constructive. Perhaps you could siphon the some of that £9000 per annum education from your children? ( should that be a question mark at the end of that statement? The some!!) We can all do the spell check . Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]There was no link, implied or otherwise, between money and grammar - merely an observation that you seem to use your own children's' education as a stick to beat other people with. As you don't know what I do, or 'where it has got my children', to call me a moron and say I have got nowhere is clearly a sweeping assumption - much like the continued assumptions you make on here. In fact, I'm more than aware how much a scrap dealer makes as my Dad works on a scrap yard, so if you need any help climbing off your high horse then feel free to let me know. In reference to the idea of 'coming up with something constructive', might I draw your attention to your continual badmouthing of all other posters and the school on this site? Please show me the plethora of constructive and helpful suggestions that you have brought to the mix. Feel free to reply to this, or don't Grumpy, you're obviously dedicating time to this, because you love to argue. If you want to carry on doing so... feel free to do it by yourself. P.S. In answer to your question 'Perhaps you could siphon some that £9000 per annum education from your children?' is what is called a rhetorical question - a statement used to imply a question. So, yes, it should be a question mark. Much like there should have been a question mark at the end of 'where has it got you and your kids'. Read a book, mate. BooksCatsCoffee
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1:14pm Wed 12 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

harley70 wrote:
As a parent shocked at the special measures result but not entirely surprised at some of the identified failings. Hopefully slt and governors will listen and take on the views and ideas from teachers students and parents by working together I am sure st gregs will turn itself around in no time.
This from what I know from insiders at the school is happening now. Thy have recently had major changes in the staff team and are endeavouring to recover their previously attained targets and recognised high standards.

The majority of the St Gregory's Catholic High School community will actively pull together for a positive resolution, however there will be some that won't in order to boost their own agenda and needs someone outside the school in order to offer some compromise or other outcome.
[quote][p][bold]harley70[/bold] wrote: As a parent shocked at the special measures result but not entirely surprised at some of the identified failings. Hopefully slt and governors will listen and take on the views and ideas from teachers students and parents by working together I am sure st gregs will turn itself around in no time.[/p][/quote]This from what I know from insiders at the school is happening now. Thy have recently had major changes in the staff team and are endeavouring to recover their previously attained targets and recognised high standards. The majority of the St Gregory's Catholic High School community will actively pull together for a positive resolution, however there will be some that won't in order to boost their own agenda and needs someone outside the school in order to offer some compromise or other outcome. SAC_in_Warrington
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