Residents warned after dog walker taken to court for not using lead

Warrington Guardian: Orford Jubilee Park Orford Jubilee Park

A DOG walker has been taken to court and fined for letting her pet off the lead in Orford Park.

Christine Magee, aged 62, from Orford, was found guilty at Warrington Magistrates Court of ignoring dog control orders in the park that state dogs must be kept on leads.

She failed to appear at court on Tuesday last week, and was fined £100 in her absence.

Magee will also pay £100 legal costs and a £20 victim surcharge.

Warrington Borough Council is calling on residents to take heed of control orders when walking pets.

LiveWire, which manages the park, has been enforcing the order since July last year.

A penalty notice of £75 will be issued to dog walkers not using a lead, with further court action possible for those who ignore it.

Clr David Keane, the council’s executive board member for environment and public protection, said: “Dog owners have a responsibility to comply with the control order on Orford Park and keep their dogs on leads unless they are in the designated free running area.

“We want to ensure residents feel safe and comfortable visiting their local park and so action will be taken to anyone caught breaking this law.”

Keith Maddock, LiveWire’s head of neighbourhoods and wellbeing, said: “LiveWire continues to support Warrington Borough Council in enforcing the dog control orders in place on Orford Park. We are committed to ensuring that all park users have a pleasant and safe experience.”

Anyone found guilty of breaching a dog control order may be liable to a maximum fine in court of £1,000, the council added.

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12:11pm Thu 30 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

I guess that she has no intentions of paying and I just think of all the costs that will invoke Was she warned on the first occasion and before the fixed penalty notice?
I guess that she has no intentions of paying and I just think of all the costs that will invoke Was she warned on the first occasion and before the fixed penalty notice? SAC_in_Warrington
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12:25pm Thu 30 Jan 14

richiepooh says...

She should get a lawyer...theres no law dictating this regardless of any signs they put up

Dogs Act 1871
It is a civil offence if a dog is dangerous (to people or animals) and not kept under proper control (generally regarded as not on a lead nor muzzled). This law can apply wherever the incident happened. The dog can be subject to a control or a destruction order and you may have to pay costs.

The Control of Dogs Order 1992
This mandates that any dog in a public place must wear a collar with the name and address of the owner engraved or written on it, or engraved on a tag. Your telephone number is optional (but advisable).

Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (section 3)
It is a criminal offence (for the owner and/or the person in charge of the dog) to allow a dog to be ‘dangerously out of control’ in a public place, a place where it is not permitted to be, and some other areas. A ‘dangerously out of control’ dog can be defined as a dog that has injured someone or a dog that a person has grounds for reasonable apprehension that it may do so. Something as simple as your dog chasing, barking at or jumping up at a person or child could lead to a complaint, so ensure that your dog is under control at all times. If your dog injures a person, it may be seized by the police and your penalty may include a prison sentence and/or a ban on keeping dogs. There is also an automatic presumption that your dog will be destroyed (unless you can persuade the court that it is not a danger to the public, in which case it may be subject to a control order). You may also have to pay a fine, compensation and costs.
She should get a lawyer...theres no law dictating this regardless of any signs they put up Dogs Act 1871 It is a civil offence if a dog is dangerous (to people or animals) and not kept under proper control (generally regarded as not on a lead nor muzzled). This law can apply wherever the incident happened. The dog can be subject to a control or a destruction order and you may have to pay costs. The Control of Dogs Order 1992 This mandates that any dog in a public place must wear a collar with the name and address of the owner engraved or written on it, or engraved on a tag. Your telephone number is optional (but advisable). Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (section 3) It is a criminal offence (for the owner and/or the person in charge of the dog) to allow a dog to be ‘dangerously out of control’ in a public place, a place where it is not permitted to be, and some other areas. A ‘dangerously out of control’ dog can be defined as a dog that has injured someone or a dog that a person has grounds for reasonable apprehension that it may do so. Something as simple as your dog chasing, barking at or jumping up at a person or child could lead to a complaint, so ensure that your dog is under control at all times. If your dog injures a person, it may be seized by the police and your penalty may include a prison sentence and/or a ban on keeping dogs. There is also an automatic presumption that your dog will be destroyed (unless you can persuade the court that it is not a danger to the public, in which case it may be subject to a control order). You may also have to pay a fine, compensation and costs. richiepooh
  • Score: 3

12:33pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

richiepooh wrote:
She should get a lawyer...theres no law dictating this regardless of any signs they put up

Dogs Act 1871
It is a civil offence if a dog is dangerous (to people or animals) and not kept under proper control (generally regarded as not on a lead nor muzzled). This law can apply wherever the incident happened. The dog can be subject to a control or a destruction order and you may have to pay costs.

The Control of Dogs Order 1992
This mandates that any dog in a public place must wear a collar with the name and address of the owner engraved or written on it, or engraved on a tag. Your telephone number is optional (but advisable).

Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (section 3)
It is a criminal offence (for the owner and/or the person in charge of the dog) to allow a dog to be ‘dangerously out of control’ in a public place, a place where it is not permitted to be, and some other areas. A ‘dangerously out of control’ dog can be defined as a dog that has injured someone or a dog that a person has grounds for reasonable apprehension that it may do so. Something as simple as your dog chasing, barking at or jumping up at a person or child could lead to a complaint, so ensure that your dog is under control at all times. If your dog injures a person, it may be seized by the police and your penalty may include a prison sentence and/or a ban on keeping dogs. There is also an automatic presumption that your dog will be destroyed (unless you can persuade the court that it is not a danger to the public, in which case it may be subject to a control order). You may also have to pay a fine, compensation and costs.
What you appear to want to say is there is no PRIMARY legislation.

Local authorities have certain powers to legislate over and above any primary legislation - and have done for centuries.

Pay up and buy a lead.
[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote: She should get a lawyer...theres no law dictating this regardless of any signs they put up Dogs Act 1871 It is a civil offence if a dog is dangerous (to people or animals) and not kept under proper control (generally regarded as not on a lead nor muzzled). This law can apply wherever the incident happened. The dog can be subject to a control or a destruction order and you may have to pay costs. The Control of Dogs Order 1992 This mandates that any dog in a public place must wear a collar with the name and address of the owner engraved or written on it, or engraved on a tag. Your telephone number is optional (but advisable). Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (section 3) It is a criminal offence (for the owner and/or the person in charge of the dog) to allow a dog to be ‘dangerously out of control’ in a public place, a place where it is not permitted to be, and some other areas. A ‘dangerously out of control’ dog can be defined as a dog that has injured someone or a dog that a person has grounds for reasonable apprehension that it may do so. Something as simple as your dog chasing, barking at or jumping up at a person or child could lead to a complaint, so ensure that your dog is under control at all times. If your dog injures a person, it may be seized by the police and your penalty may include a prison sentence and/or a ban on keeping dogs. There is also an automatic presumption that your dog will be destroyed (unless you can persuade the court that it is not a danger to the public, in which case it may be subject to a control order). You may also have to pay a fine, compensation and costs.[/p][/quote]What you appear to want to say is there is no PRIMARY legislation. Local authorities have certain powers to legislate over and above any primary legislation - and have done for centuries. Pay up and buy a lead. Nick Tessla
  • Score: 22

1:48pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Curious_72 says...

There are always dogs wandering freely in Orford Park......mainly the 2 legged variety!!
There are always dogs wandering freely in Orford Park......mainly the 2 legged variety!! Curious_72
  • Score: 11

2:59pm Thu 30 Jan 14

tarasmum says...

God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !!
God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !! tarasmum
  • Score: -6

3:03pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

tarasmum wrote:
God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !!
Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why she was singled out?
[quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !![/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why she was singled out? Nick Tessla
  • Score: 12

3:24pm Thu 30 Jan 14

tarasmum says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
tarasmum wrote:
God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !!
Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why she was singled out?
Yes, because she had the 'audacity' to let her dog off the lead ?? Doh !
I stand by what I said and will not enter into any more correspondence with a know it all like you !!

I reiterate, poor woman .....
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !![/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why she was singled out?[/p][/quote]Yes, because she had the 'audacity' to let her dog off the lead ?? Doh ! I stand by what I said and will not enter into any more correspondence with a know it all like you !! I reiterate, poor woman ..... tarasmum
  • Score: -22

3:26pm Thu 30 Jan 14

tarasmum says...

By the way Tessla, have you nothing better to do than post on here CONSTANTLY - what a dull, boring life you have, need to get some friends mate !
By the way Tessla, have you nothing better to do than post on here CONSTANTLY - what a dull, boring life you have, need to get some friends mate ! tarasmum
  • Score: -1

3:41pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

tarasmum wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
tarasmum wrote:
God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !!
Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why she was singled out?
Yes, because she had the 'audacity' to let her dog off the lead ?? Doh !
I stand by what I said and will not enter into any more correspondence with a know it all like you !!

I reiterate, poor woman .....
I'll try and explain what I meant

People who let their dogs off leads and don't get fined

This woman is fined - therefore been singled out.

I don't know it all. But I can think clearly. Can you ,are you blinded by your resentment of people who have the audacity to think differently than you and the ability to express it without constantly resorting to personal abuse as you do?
[quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: God, going to Court because you let your dog off the lead for a run round! WHAT THE HELL is the world coming to !!! It's no fun for the dog to be kept on the lead all the time, they love to run and play and as usual, the selfish, ugly minority who own vicious dogs and let them poop everywhere spoil it for the decent ones amongst us, of which there are many. I feel really, really sorry fore this woman and as for LiveWire - jobsworth pratts (but I'd like to use a stronger word) in my opinion !![/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why she was singled out?[/p][/quote]Yes, because she had the 'audacity' to let her dog off the lead ?? Doh ! I stand by what I said and will not enter into any more correspondence with a know it all like you !! I reiterate, poor woman .....[/p][/quote]I'll try and explain what I meant People who let their dogs off leads and don't get fined This woman is fined - therefore been singled out. I don't know it all. But I can think clearly. Can you ,are you blinded by your resentment of people who have the audacity to think differently than you and the ability to express it without constantly resorting to personal abuse as you do? Nick Tessla
  • Score: 14

3:41pm Thu 30 Jan 14

flashcoffy says...

Just under half of the traditional lay-out of Orford Park is now a designated dog area, where your precious pooch can run freely to its little canine heart's content.

However this didnt occur in that area.

You did read that bit didn't you TarasMum?
Just under half of the traditional lay-out of Orford Park is now a designated dog area, where your precious pooch can run freely to its little canine heart's content. However this didnt occur in that area. You did read that bit didn't you TarasMum? flashcoffy
  • Score: 21

6:57pm Thu 30 Jan 14

old-codger says...

Bye laws are to be obeyed, If you don't pay the fine or appeal the fine you are taken to court, This woman couldn't even be bothered to attend the court hearing so no sympathy from this quarter. Ignorance may be bliss but it aint cheap.
Bye laws are to be obeyed, If you don't pay the fine or appeal the fine you are taken to court, This woman couldn't even be bothered to attend the court hearing so no sympathy from this quarter. Ignorance may be bliss but it aint cheap. old-codger
  • Score: 7

10:34pm Thu 30 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

YES curious 72 ! seen quite a few 2legged dogs in orford park ! probably begging !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES curious 72 ! seen quite a few 2legged dogs in orford park ! probably begging !!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -10

11:40pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Now the Wire says...

Personally I'll still be walking my dog off the lead. I'll conisder it when I stop seeing litter, used condoms on the floor and at times, syringes.
Running is my dogs only pleaseure & she's done it for 10 years, I worked my balls off just to live near the park. This was before Livewire, before the gestapo fenced us in, before we were 'braking the law' singled out and made to feel bad despite being good dog owners.

Eeeeeh, back in my day it was nowt but fields.
Personally I'll still be walking my dog off the lead. I'll conisder it when I stop seeing litter, used condoms on the floor and at times, syringes. Running is my dogs only pleaseure & she's done it for 10 years, I worked my balls off just to live near the park. This was before Livewire, before the gestapo fenced us in, before we were 'braking the law' singled out and made to feel bad despite being good dog owners. Eeeeeh, back in my day it was nowt but fields. Now the Wire
  • Score: 1

11:40am Fri 31 Jan 14

foggy says...

I wonder if Livewire would have treated a couple of thugs with bull terriers in the same way. Seems like they picked an easy target to make an example of but I do look forward to seeing prosecutions for dog poop.
I wonder if Livewire would have treated a couple of thugs with bull terriers in the same way. Seems like they picked an easy target to make an example of but I do look forward to seeing prosecutions for dog poop. foggy
  • Score: 11

1:46pm Fri 31 Jan 14

prudence87 says...

serves her right. rules are there for a reason. I may just decide that I dont much want to follow the pay for your shopping rule and walk out of tesco
serves her right. rules are there for a reason. I may just decide that I dont much want to follow the pay for your shopping rule and walk out of tesco prudence87
  • Score: 11

3:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

tarasmum says...

foggy wrote:
I wonder if Livewire would have treated a couple of thugs with bull terriers in the same way. Seems like they picked an easy target to make an example of but I do look forward to seeing prosecutions for dog poop.
Definitely an easy target foggy !
[quote][p][bold]foggy[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Livewire would have treated a couple of thugs with bull terriers in the same way. Seems like they picked an easy target to make an example of but I do look forward to seeing prosecutions for dog poop.[/p][/quote]Definitely an easy target foggy ! tarasmum
  • Score: -4

3:47pm Fri 31 Jan 14

tarasmum says...

Now the Wire wrote:
Personally I'll still be walking my dog off the lead. I'll conisder it when I stop seeing litter, used condoms on the floor and at times, syringes.
Running is my dogs only pleaseure & she's done it for 10 years, I worked my balls off just to live near the park. This was before Livewire, before the gestapo fenced us in, before we were 'braking the law' singled out and made to feel bad despite being good dog owners.

Eeeeeh, back in my day it was nowt but fields.
Brilliant post Now the Wire - agree 100%. Love the 'gestapo' comment!
[quote][p][bold]Now the Wire[/bold] wrote: Personally I'll still be walking my dog off the lead. I'll conisder it when I stop seeing litter, used condoms on the floor and at times, syringes. Running is my dogs only pleaseure & she's done it for 10 years, I worked my balls off just to live near the park. This was before Livewire, before the gestapo fenced us in, before we were 'braking the law' singled out and made to feel bad despite being good dog owners. Eeeeeh, back in my day it was nowt but fields.[/p][/quote]Brilliant post Now the Wire - agree 100%. Love the 'gestapo' comment! tarasmum
  • Score: -13

3:49pm Fri 31 Jan 14

tarasmum says...

flashcoffy wrote:
Just under half of the traditional lay-out of Orford Park is now a designated dog area, where your precious pooch can run freely to its little canine heart's content.

However this didnt occur in that area.

You did read that bit didn't you TarasMum?
How do you I know didn't - got a crystal ball have you ??
[quote][p][bold]flashcoffy[/bold] wrote: Just under half of the traditional lay-out of Orford Park is now a designated dog area, where your precious pooch can run freely to its little canine heart's content. However this didnt occur in that area. You did read that bit didn't you TarasMum?[/p][/quote]How do you I know didn't - got a crystal ball have you ?? tarasmum
  • Score: -10

4:02pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Curly 72 says...

How can they fine people for having dogs off the lead, when between Christmas and new year my dog escaped through the railings on the "secure" free running park at Orford park. We get fined if our dogs off the lead but if we obide by the rules and go on the dog park our furry friends aren't safe anyway. My dog escaped through the railings nr the bridge on hallfields rd and got onto the road. Thankfully I am fit and managed to jump the railings, as if I had run the the gate, he may have been killed,and maybe caused a car accident. I've informed both the council and LiveWire, but not heard anything and the railings are still wide enough for small dogs to escape. I agree that dogs should be on the lead if owners can't control them. Me and my dog were chased by a staffy which was off the lead on Orford park,which was quite scary. When I said "maybe he should be on a lead" to the owner, who had yelled at the dog to cone back, I just got a load of abuse. He then proceeded to take his dog and kid onto the play ground. Still off the lead. Livewire, PLEASE, sort the fencing out and keep our dogs safe! You can't have it both ways!!!
How can they fine people for having dogs off the lead, when between Christmas and new year my dog escaped through the railings on the "secure" free running park at Orford park. We get fined if our dogs off the lead but if we obide by the rules and go on the dog park our furry friends aren't safe anyway. My dog escaped through the railings nr the bridge on hallfields rd and got onto the road. Thankfully I am fit and managed to jump the railings, as if I had run the the gate, he may have been killed,and maybe caused a car accident. I've informed both the council and LiveWire, but not heard anything and the railings are still wide enough for small dogs to escape. I agree that dogs should be on the lead if owners can't control them. Me and my dog were chased by a staffy which was off the lead on Orford park,which was quite scary. When I said "maybe he should be on a lead" to the owner, who had yelled at the dog to cone back, I just got a load of abuse. He then proceeded to take his dog and kid onto the play ground. Still off the lead. Livewire, PLEASE, sort the fencing out and keep our dogs safe! You can't have it both ways!!! Curly 72
  • Score: 4

4:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

trrekkie says...

My dog is frightened of dogs after being attacked a few years ago and the confines of the dog park where there can be up to 10 dogs running at her is a dangerous situation. The people in the dog park walk around not paying any attention to their dogs and not keeping them under control. I can't exercise my dog by throwing a ball because all the other dogs run for the ball, yet again another dangerous situation. Sensible dog walkers aren't the problem and there is nothing better than seeing a free running dog.
The dog wardens never talk to men or groups of people only vulnerable single women. It's disgusting.
The council should concentrate on the gangs of under aged drinkers and drug dealers and drug takers that are on the park and sat in the skate park at night. The park is littered with empty cans of alcohol. The council need to get their priorities right.
My dog is frightened of dogs after being attacked a few years ago and the confines of the dog park where there can be up to 10 dogs running at her is a dangerous situation. The people in the dog park walk around not paying any attention to their dogs and not keeping them under control. I can't exercise my dog by throwing a ball because all the other dogs run for the ball, yet again another dangerous situation. Sensible dog walkers aren't the problem and there is nothing better than seeing a free running dog. The dog wardens never talk to men or groups of people only vulnerable single women. It's disgusting. The council should concentrate on the gangs of under aged drinkers and drug dealers and drug takers that are on the park and sat in the skate park at night. The park is littered with empty cans of alcohol. The council need to get their priorities right. trrekkie
  • Score: 7

4:45pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Geoff Settle says...

I've received two reports about dogs off their lead this month.
One has been in Parkfield Park where a dog attacked another and drew blood after which it went for it's owner. Dogs can be off their lead if they are under the control of the owner. Unless it is in a restricted area like parts of Orford Park. Orford Park is to my knowledge the only restricted park area in the town.
The second was at Moore Nature Reserve where dogs are requested to be on leads because it is a nature reserve and their are endangered species.
I've received two reports about dogs off their lead this month. One has been in Parkfield Park where a dog attacked another and drew blood after which it went for it's owner. Dogs can be off their lead if they are under the control of the owner. Unless it is in a restricted area like parts of Orford Park. Orford Park is to my knowledge the only restricted park area in the town. The second was at Moore Nature Reserve where dogs are requested to be on leads because it is a nature reserve and their are endangered species. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 5

6:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

trrekkie says...

I walk my dog between 5.30 am and 7.30 am why can't the restrictions be between 9 am and 9 pm so everyone will be happy. I live close to Orford Park and Sankey Valley and Woolston Park are too far away. I go to these places on the days that I don't work.
As for people complaining about dog poo, don't they understand that dog owners that don't pick up won't pick up if their dog is on or off the lead.
I walk my dog between 5.30 am and 7.30 am why can't the restrictions be between 9 am and 9 pm so everyone will be happy. I live close to Orford Park and Sankey Valley and Woolston Park are too far away. I go to these places on the days that I don't work. As for people complaining about dog poo, don't they understand that dog owners that don't pick up won't pick up if their dog is on or off the lead. trrekkie
  • Score: 3

8:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

upr2013 says...

I started taking my dog on orford park because dogs have to be on leads, as I am scared of free running dogs, my dog is small and I got him to try to stop myself being scared of dogs, I can't take him anymore because people think they can do what they want , I got fed up of dogs running at me, jumping at me , for the owner to just laugh and say the dogs fine he won't hurt your dog, it's not my dog I'm worried about it's me that's scared of getting hurt ,,,
I started taking my dog on orford park because dogs have to be on leads, as I am scared of free running dogs, my dog is small and I got him to try to stop myself being scared of dogs, I can't take him anymore because people think they can do what they want , I got fed up of dogs running at me, jumping at me , for the owner to just laugh and say the dogs fine he won't hurt your dog, it's not my dog I'm worried about it's me that's scared of getting hurt ,,, upr2013
  • Score: 10

8:39pm Fri 31 Jan 14

mrdaveyasdfr says...

This is ridiculous. It's against the law to have an out of control do but having a dog of the lead does not mean it's out of control.
My dog is well trained and is under control even off the lead.

we should I be penalised because of other bad dog owners.
Target the bad dog owners not all dog owners,

This is a bad and lazy by-law (If indeed it is a law) I would of contested it,.
This is ridiculous. It's against the law to have an out of control do but having a dog of the lead does not mean it's out of control. My dog is well trained and is under control even off the lead. we should I be penalised because of other bad dog owners. Target the bad dog owners not all dog owners, This is a bad and lazy by-law (If indeed it is a law) I would of contested it,. mrdaveyasdfr
  • Score: -9

9:32pm Fri 31 Jan 14

muckerman says...

If I recall there is a designated area where the dogs can be let off their leads in the park.
If I recall there is a designated area where the dogs can be let off their leads in the park. muckerman
  • Score: 6

10:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Geoff Settle says...

upr2013 wrote:
I started taking my dog on orford park because dogs have to be on leads, as I am scared of free running dogs, my dog is small and I got him to try to stop myself being scared of dogs, I can't take him anymore because people think they can do what they want , I got fed up of dogs running at me, jumping at me , for the owner to just laugh and say the dogs fine he won't hurt your dog, it's not my dog I'm worried about it's me that's scared of getting hurt ,,,
I've been bitten 3 times by owners making that comment :-(
Last time the doctor said that I don't need to come back to the surgery after the last puncture cannine puncture marks because he belived that I had enough immunisation for a long time.
[quote][p][bold]upr2013[/bold] wrote: I started taking my dog on orford park because dogs have to be on leads, as I am scared of free running dogs, my dog is small and I got him to try to stop myself being scared of dogs, I can't take him anymore because people think they can do what they want , I got fed up of dogs running at me, jumping at me , for the owner to just laugh and say the dogs fine he won't hurt your dog, it's not my dog I'm worried about it's me that's scared of getting hurt ,,,[/p][/quote]I've been bitten 3 times by owners making that comment :-( Last time the doctor said that I don't need to come back to the surgery after the last puncture cannine puncture marks because he belived that I had enough immunisation for a long time. Geoff Settle
  • Score: 0

12:44am Sat 1 Feb 14

grey-area says...

That's about £200 more than the creep that smacked a frail pensioner. Something wrong here.
That's about £200 more than the creep that smacked a frail pensioner. Something wrong here. grey-area
  • Score: 5

8:54am Sat 1 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

grey-area wrote:
That's about £200 more than the creep that smacked a frail pensioner. Something wrong here.
How can £100 fine (plus a £20 surcharge) be £200 more than anything?
[quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: That's about £200 more than the creep that smacked a frail pensioner. Something wrong here.[/p][/quote]How can £100 fine (plus a £20 surcharge) be £200 more than anything? Nick Tessla
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Sat 1 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

let them p..00 its only orford !
let them p..00 its only orford ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -10

5:13pm Sat 1 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

let them p..00 its only orford !
let them p..00 its only orford ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -6

8:38pm Sat 1 Feb 14

fatfighter says...

I am involved in the park quite closely and would just like to point out that all of you that think this is a waste of time, silly, pointless, and people should be allowed to let their dogs run free i would like to pass this onto the little girl 8yrs old who was badly bitten by a dog running free, off lead,, (despite previous warnings not to allow it to do so ) and her family after she was badly injured and traumatised by the experience. but i'm sure she and her family will be interested in your experienced views.
There is a huge area that is SPECIFICALLY FOR dogs to be off the lead, run free, in a huge green space , segregated from the many children, families, and other park users, This space is ample big enough for the dogs and dog walkers, and the rest of the park, which is used by others is a lead area. It's not rocket science is it really ? If you want your dog to run free then use the correct part of the park. The rules have been put in place for a reason !!
I am involved in the park quite closely and would just like to point out that all of you that think this is a waste of time, silly, pointless, and people should be allowed to let their dogs run free i would like to pass this onto the little girl 8yrs old who was badly bitten by a dog running free, off lead,, (despite previous warnings not to allow it to do so ) and her family after she was badly injured and traumatised by the experience. but i'm sure she and her family will be interested in your experienced views. There is a huge area that is SPECIFICALLY FOR dogs to be off the lead, run free, in a huge green space , segregated from the many children, families, and other park users, This space is ample big enough for the dogs and dog walkers, and the rest of the park, which is used by others is a lead area. It's not rocket science is it really ? If you want your dog to run free then use the correct part of the park. The rules have been put in place for a reason !! fatfighter
  • Score: 10

12:35pm Sun 2 Feb 14

old-codger says...

tarasmum wrote:
By the way Tessla, have you nothing better to do than post on here CONSTANTLY - what a dull, boring life you have, need to get some friends mate !
You don't need to be on here constantly, You can come on here once or twice a week for half an hour and comment on all subjects, Peoples comments are personal opinions and you can either agree or disagree, Personal attacks like this one don't do you any favours. I had you down as a good, Intelligent contributor please don't spoil my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: By the way Tessla, have you nothing better to do than post on here CONSTANTLY - what a dull, boring life you have, need to get some friends mate ![/p][/quote]You don't need to be on here constantly, You can come on here once or twice a week for half an hour and comment on all subjects, Peoples comments are personal opinions and you can either agree or disagree, Personal attacks like this one don't do you any favours. I had you down as a good, Intelligent contributor please don't spoil my opinion. old-codger
  • Score: 6

1:19pm Sun 2 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -6

1:24pm Sun 2 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

nick tessla is NUMBER 1 "boring" TROLL ON HERE !!!!
nick tessla is NUMBER 1 "boring" TROLL ON HERE !!!! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -4

1:27pm Sun 2 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

LET THEM DO "whoopses" ! ALL orford is anyway is piles of plop on all the pavements and big green privet hedges !!!!!!
LET THEM DO "whoopses" ! ALL orford is anyway is piles of plop on all the pavements and big green privet hedges !!!!!! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -8

1:34pm Sun 2 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

orford is 1 big COUNCIL ESTATE="FACT" !! but nick tessla says council estates dont EXIST anymore ! WHAT is "poplars avenue" & all the roads off it then nick ? GET A GRIP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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orford is 1 big COUNCIL ESTATE="FACT" !! but nick tessla says council estates dont EXIST anymore ! WHAT is "poplars avenue" & all the roads off it then nick ? GET A GRIP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -6

2:01pm Sun 2 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Anyone with an ounce of common sense will know that Council Estates no longer exist however Social Housing does exist in all areas of Warrington and alongside those of owner occupiers.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense will know that Council Estates no longer exist however Social Housing does exist in all areas of Warrington and alongside those of owner occupiers. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 2

10:01am Mon 3 Feb 14

The Maestro says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Anyone with an ounce of common sense will know that Council Estates no longer exist however Social Housing does exist in all areas of Warrington and alongside those of owner occupiers.
You said anyone with an ounce of sense- you are take it mad4it sense doesn't come into his mind
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: Anyone with an ounce of common sense will know that Council Estates no longer exist however Social Housing does exist in all areas of Warrington and alongside those of owner occupiers.[/p][/quote]You said anyone with an ounce of sense- you are take it mad4it sense doesn't come into his mind The Maestro
  • Score: 3

1:35pm Mon 3 Feb 14

chumhill says...

MAD 4 IT wrote:
orford is 1 big COUNCIL ESTATE="FACT" !! but nick tessla says council estates dont EXIST anymore ! WHAT is "poplars avenue" & all the roads off it then nick ? GET A GRIP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!
MAD 4 IT, I think you will find myself and a lot of other residents in Orford own there own home, mine is owned out right and I am investing in few other properties in the area so far. I would say 80% of the houses in my street are privately owned or privately rented. Plus there's nothing wrong with council estates its how people are brought up that make the difference and how they are wired. A majority of council tenants are respectable people probably more so than yourself (judging purely from your comments as I do not know you as a person). My parents have lived in council housing all there life and they are very decent people. I know Orford to be one of the up and coming areas in Warrington probably within the next 10 years mark my words this will be one of the more desirable areas to live. MAD FOR IT reading quite a few of your comments on here its obvious your trying to promote negative reactions, however I am guessing most people read them and just feel sorry for you. Invest your time wisely and put some meaningful comments on here, I am not having a go just trying to give you advice you so desperately need.
[quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: orford is 1 big COUNCIL ESTATE="FACT" !! but nick tessla says council estates dont EXIST anymore ! WHAT is "poplars avenue" & all the roads off it then nick ? GET A GRIP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]MAD 4 IT, I think you will find myself and a lot of other residents in Orford own there own home, mine is owned out right and I am investing in few other properties in the area so far. I would say 80% of the houses in my street are privately owned or privately rented. Plus there's nothing wrong with council estates its how people are brought up that make the difference and how they are wired. A majority of council tenants are respectable people probably more so than yourself (judging purely from your comments as I do not know you as a person). My parents have lived in council housing all there life and they are very decent people. I know Orford to be one of the up and coming areas in Warrington probably within the next 10 years mark my words this will be one of the more desirable areas to live. MAD FOR IT reading quite a few of your comments on here its obvious your trying to promote negative reactions, however I am guessing most people read them and just feel sorry for you. Invest your time wisely and put some meaningful comments on here, I am not having a go just trying to give you advice you so desperately need. chumhill
  • Score: 13

3:42pm Mon 3 Feb 14

fedster says...

Just 1 example of dogs of leads


Gypsy the dog was attacked by another dog in Sefton Park

A Liverpool dad told of his horror after the blind dog he was walking was savaged by a bull terrier in a park.

Darren Guy, 51, from Toxteth, said pet German shepherd terrier cross Gypsy was grabbed round the neck by the other dog in the vicious attack.



amazing though that the amount of teenagers strolling the park with dogs of leads and they target an elderly lady. just shows how well the brave cheshire police are doing a sterling job.
Just 1 example of dogs of leads Gypsy the dog was attacked by another dog in Sefton Park A Liverpool dad told of his horror after the blind dog he was walking was savaged by a bull terrier in a park. Darren Guy, 51, from Toxteth, said pet German shepherd terrier cross Gypsy was grabbed round the neck by the other dog in the vicious attack. amazing though that the amount of teenagers strolling the park with dogs of leads and they target an elderly lady. just shows how well the brave cheshire police are doing a sterling job. fedster
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

tarasmum says...

MAD 4 IT wrote:
ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha well said MAD.

Nothing to say Tessla ??!!
[quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Ha ha well said MAD. Nothing to say Tessla ??!! tarasmum
  • Score: -4

4:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

tarasmum says...

old-codger wrote:
tarasmum wrote:
By the way Tessla, have you nothing better to do than post on here CONSTANTLY - what a dull, boring life you have, need to get some friends mate !
You don't need to be on here constantly, You can come on here once or twice a week for half an hour and comment on all subjects, Peoples comments are personal opinions and you can either agree or disagree, Personal attacks like this one don't do you any favours. I had you down as a good, Intelligent contributor please don't spoil my opinion.
I am a 'good, intelligent contributor', so please carry on thinking that. Tessla gets on my nerves, he is such a know it all and I stand by that, whether you like it or not, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]old-codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: By the way Tessla, have you nothing better to do than post on here CONSTANTLY - what a dull, boring life you have, need to get some friends mate ![/p][/quote]You don't need to be on here constantly, You can come on here once or twice a week for half an hour and comment on all subjects, Peoples comments are personal opinions and you can either agree or disagree, Personal attacks like this one don't do you any favours. I had you down as a good, Intelligent contributor please don't spoil my opinion.[/p][/quote]I am a 'good, intelligent contributor', so please carry on thinking that. Tessla gets on my nerves, he is such a know it all and I stand by that, whether you like it or not, sorry. tarasmum
  • Score: -2

5:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

MAD 4 IT says...

tessla gets on my nerves to !! such a know-all ! KNOWS=NOTHING !
tessla gets on my nerves to !! such a know-all ! KNOWS=NOTHING ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -3

5:52pm Mon 3 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

fedster wrote:
Just 1 example of dogs of leads


Gypsy the dog was attacked by another dog in Sefton Park

A Liverpool dad told of his horror after the blind dog he was walking was savaged by a bull terrier in a park.

Darren Guy, 51, from Toxteth, said pet German shepherd terrier cross Gypsy was grabbed round the neck by the other dog in the vicious attack.



amazing though that the amount of teenagers strolling the park with dogs of leads and they target an elderly lady. just shows how well the brave cheshire police are doing a sterling job.
May I suggest you read the news article. I just want to correct one point you make. It wasn't the police in the article who were enforcing the park bylaw, it was. I quote:
"LiveWire, which manages the park, has been enforcing the order since July last year."
[quote][p][bold]fedster[/bold] wrote: Just 1 example of dogs of leads Gypsy the dog was attacked by another dog in Sefton Park A Liverpool dad told of his horror after the blind dog he was walking was savaged by a bull terrier in a park. Darren Guy, 51, from Toxteth, said pet German shepherd terrier cross Gypsy was grabbed round the neck by the other dog in the vicious attack. amazing though that the amount of teenagers strolling the park with dogs of leads and they target an elderly lady. just shows how well the brave cheshire police are doing a sterling job.[/p][/quote]May I suggest you read the news article. I just want to correct one point you make. It wasn't the police in the article who were enforcing the park bylaw, it was. I quote: "LiveWire, which manages the park, has been enforcing the order since July last year." SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 3

7:12pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Curly 72 says...

My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents! Curly 72
  • Score: 3

7:18pm Mon 3 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Curly 72 wrote:
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.
[quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents![/p][/quote]Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 2

7:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

grey-area says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
grey-area wrote:
That's about £200 more than the creep that smacked a frail pensioner. Something wrong here.
How can £100 fine (plus a £20 surcharge) be £200 more than anything?
Plus £100 legal cost
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grey-area[/bold] wrote: That's about £200 more than the creep that smacked a frail pensioner. Something wrong here.[/p][/quote]How can £100 fine (plus a £20 surcharge) be £200 more than anything?[/p][/quote]Plus £100 legal cost grey-area
  • Score: 2

7:27pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Curly 72 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.
I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all!
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents![/p][/quote]Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.[/p][/quote]I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all! Curly 72
  • Score: 1

7:39pm Mon 3 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Curly 72 wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.
I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all!
Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.
[quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents![/p][/quote]Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.[/p][/quote]I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all![/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Curly 72 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.
I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all!
Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.
People like that always seem to get away with it unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents![/p][/quote]Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.[/p][/quote]I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all![/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.[/p][/quote]People like that always seem to get away with it unfortunately. Curly 72
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Curly 72 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.
I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all!
Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.
People like that always seem to get away with it unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents![/p][/quote]Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.[/p][/quote]I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all![/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.[/p][/quote]People like that always seem to get away with it unfortunately. Curly 72
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Curly 72 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Curly 72 wrote:
My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents!
Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.
I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all!
Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.
People like that always seem to get away with it unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Curly 72[/bold] wrote: My dog has just been set upon map by a Staffordshire bull terrier on Orford park about six o'clock. It was a white one, the owner was a woman about 40 with a boy about 12. My dog was on the lead and the staffy bounded into my dog and lunged at him growling aggressively. When I shouted " your dog should be on a lead" I got a LOAD of abuse and she accused me of my dog being off the lead. This is TOTAL lie as he is a puppy and I was lead training him. I hope she reads this as she knows she was in the wrong and was setting her son a terrible example blatantly lying like that in front of him. It is people like her who think rules don't belong to them, and can't be bothered training their dogs, that this rule applies to. This is not the first time my dog has been set upon by a staffy not on the lead by an irresponsible dog owner. These are the kind of people who don't pick up poo either! Total delinquents![/p][/quote]Report the incident to Livewire and watch as she is taken to task for her irresponsible acts.[/p][/quote]I did, unfortunately the CCTV didn't cover the area it happened. She knows she was in the wrong. I took a photo of her but she got her son to stand in the way. Says it all![/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, as you did all you could then, although to no avail.[/p][/quote]People like that always seem to get away with it unfortunately. Curly 72
  • Score: 1

7:54am Tue 4 Feb 14

Nick Tessla says...

tarasmum wrote:
MAD 4 IT wrote:
ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha well said MAD.

Nothing to say Tessla ??!!
I will attempt not to respond to such rants od yours as it is only seems to add to your problem.
[quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Ha ha well said MAD. Nothing to say Tessla ??!![/p][/quote]I will attempt not to respond to such rants od yours as it is only seems to add to your problem. Nick Tessla
  • Score: 4

8:06am Tue 4 Feb 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
tarasmum wrote:
MAD 4 IT wrote:
ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha well said MAD.

Nothing to say Tessla ??!!
I will attempt not to respond to such rants od yours as it is only seems to add to your problem.
That's the best way Nick and I'm doing the same with them both.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Ha ha well said MAD. Nothing to say Tessla ??!![/p][/quote]I will attempt not to respond to such rants od yours as it is only seems to add to your problem.[/p][/quote]That's the best way Nick and I'm doing the same with them both. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: 4

9:06am Tue 4 Feb 14

Curly 72 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
tarasmum wrote:
MAD 4 IT wrote:
ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha well said MAD.

Nothing to say Tessla ??!!
I will attempt not to respond to such rants od yours as it is only seems to add to your problem.
That's the best way Nick and I'm doing the same with them both.
Just ignore them , some stupid ignorant people love to cause trouble. Don't rise to it, that's what they want. These are the kind of people who think laws don't apply to them. Unfortunately we have to live among them.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarasmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: ALL "NICK TESSLA" DOES is to take mickey out of other peoples comments ! he said i am number 1 TROLL on here ! he wants to look at his sad LONER life first ! for starters nick your are on here more than me ! & "YOU ARE EXTREMELY "BORING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Ha ha well said MAD. Nothing to say Tessla ??!![/p][/quote]I will attempt not to respond to such rants od yours as it is only seems to add to your problem.[/p][/quote]That's the best way Nick and I'm doing the same with them both.[/p][/quote]Just ignore them , some stupid ignorant people love to cause trouble. Don't rise to it, that's what they want. These are the kind of people who think laws don't apply to them. Unfortunately we have to live among them. Curly 72
  • Score: 6

9:41am Tue 4 Feb 14

flashcoffy says...

Don't feed the Trolls.

Although Troll trolling can sometimes be as fun as a discussion.
Don't feed the Trolls. Although Troll trolling can sometimes be as fun as a discussion. flashcoffy
  • Score: 2

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