Two persistent patients visited Warrington Hospital once a week in 2013

Two patients visited Warrington once a week in 2013

Two patients visited Warrington once a week in 2013

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TWO patients visited A&E in Warrington almost once a week in the past year, according to latest statistics.

Figures revealed by Warrington Hospital have found over 12 months one patient visited the department 59 times while others attended on 50 occasions during the year and another 46 times.

In the last three years 1,334 headed to A&E on 10 or more occasions accounting for 19,930 attendances.

Fourteen people visited the department 50 times or more during the same period while four were sat in A&E 100 times or more between April 2010 and 2013.

The hospital released the figures as part of a national investigation which found a number of hospitals had reported patients visiting 50 times or more in a year and led to fears it was adding to the ‘mounting pressure’ on the system this winter.

A hospital spokesman said the majority of cases frequently attending A&E were as a result of mental health problems or alcohol and drug-related.

He added: “The numbers of patients with more than 50 attendances in a year are very small and there are various reasons to their repeat attendances; often connected to mental ill health, alcohol and drug related incidents or suffering from chronic pain.

“Other regular attenders may have a variety of conditions which need monitoring, or they may have been unable to find alternatives to seeking help from the emergency department.

“The increasing numbers of elderly people with a range of conditions that are serious, if not life-threatening, are providing increased pressures across the service and it is important that all members of the public consider which part of the local system they need to access – GPs, minor injury units, pharmacies – as well as the NHS 111 service.”

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7:48am Fri 17 Jan 14

PageA says...

2 people with mental health issues is adding to the'mounting pressure'? This is a ridiculous press release to print. These people have a problem.what strategies haveWarrington Hospital management tried to remove their need to attend hospital? Have they tried making the sit in A&E for 4 hours like they do with everyone else? Or are they saying that it's because of these 2 people that the waiting times are so long? If their problems are so bad that they need to attendeach week then....they need to attend each week. We pay you enough, deal with it. Don't rip into people in the local press
2 people with mental health issues is adding to the'mounting pressure'? This is a ridiculous press release to print. These people have a problem.what strategies haveWarrington Hospital management tried to remove their need to attend hospital? Have they tried making the sit in A&E for 4 hours like they do with everyone else? Or are they saying that it's because of these 2 people that the waiting times are so long? If their problems are so bad that they need to attendeach week then....they need to attend each week. We pay you enough, deal with it. Don't rip into people in the local press PageA
  • Score: 9

8:30am Fri 17 Jan 14

silverlady54 says...

It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.
It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen. silverlady54
  • Score: 5

10:02am Fri 17 Jan 14

old-codger says...

PageA says,
2 people with mental health issues is adding to the'mounting pressure'? This is a ridiculous press release to print. Don't rip into people in the local press,

Well said PageA , I am 100% with you on that one..
PageA says, 2 people with mental health issues is adding to the'mounting pressure'? This is a ridiculous press release to print. Don't rip into people in the local press, Well said PageA , I am 100% with you on that one.. old-codger
  • Score: 5

1:31pm Fri 17 Jan 14

nextdoor says...

Pretty sure this would have been reported to their GP's so why arent they helping?
Pretty sure this would have been reported to their GP's so why arent they helping? nextdoor
  • Score: 4

4:58pm Fri 17 Jan 14

WarringtonHospital says...

silverlady54 wrote:
It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.
Just to be clear, the hospital hasn't proactively released these figures. They came from a national Freedom of Information request - initially from the BBC.

However, A&E attendances in England are up by over 10 percent so there is increased pressure on departments across the service - but locally we are performing well in seeing patients as quickly as possible.
[quote][p][bold]silverlady54[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.[/p][/quote]Just to be clear, the hospital hasn't proactively released these figures. They came from a national Freedom of Information request - initially from the BBC. However, A&E attendances in England are up by over 10 percent so there is increased pressure on departments across the service - but locally we are performing well in seeing patients as quickly as possible. WarringtonHospital
  • Score: 2

7:39pm Fri 17 Jan 14

grey-area says...

Are the attendances up by 10 percent on a like for like basis, or on those left open after the closure of others?

And what is the number of occurences that constitute the optimum resource allocation?
Thought I'd ask the question in management speak as when we ask a direct question, the answers usually start "Lessons will be learnt......" and "2 people caused the problem"
Are the attendances up by 10 percent on a like for like basis, or on those left open after the closure of others? And what is the number of occurences that constitute the optimum resource allocation? Thought I'd ask the question in management speak as when we ask a direct question, the answers usually start "Lessons will be learnt......" and "2 people caused the problem" grey-area
  • Score: 1

9:09pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

WarringtonHospital wrote:
silverlady54 wrote:
It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.
Just to be clear, the hospital hasn't proactively released these figures. They came from a national Freedom of Information request - initially from the BBC.

However, A&E attendances in England are up by over 10 percent so there is increased pressure on departments across the service - but locally we are performing well in seeing patients as quickly as possible.
Does the hospital leave some patients in ambulances as long as possible - on the basis that the clock (so to speak) timing the waiting time only starts after they have been moved into A&E?
[quote][p][bold]WarringtonHospital[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silverlady54[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.[/p][/quote]Just to be clear, the hospital hasn't proactively released these figures. They came from a national Freedom of Information request - initially from the BBC. However, A&E attendances in England are up by over 10 percent so there is increased pressure on departments across the service - but locally we are performing well in seeing patients as quickly as possible.[/p][/quote]Does the hospital leave some patients in ambulances as long as possible - on the basis that the clock (so to speak) timing the waiting time only starts after they have been moved into A&E? Nick Tessla
  • Score: 3

11:20pm Fri 17 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

ARE THEY "ALCOHOLICS" ???? BET THEY ARE !!!
ARE THEY "ALCOHOLICS" ???? BET THEY ARE !!! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -3

8:53am Sat 18 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

MAD 4 IT wrote:
ARE THEY "ALCOHOLICS" ???? BET THEY ARE !!!
No way of knowing. Alcoholism is a real disease so no need for the quotation marks.
[quote][p][bold]MAD 4 IT[/bold] wrote: ARE THEY "ALCOHOLICS" ???? BET THEY ARE !!![/p][/quote]No way of knowing. Alcoholism is a real disease so no need for the quotation marks. Nick Tessla
  • Score: 2

5:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

PageA says...

WarringtonHospital wrote:
silverlady54 wrote:
It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.
Just to be clear, the hospital hasn't proactively released these figures. They came from a national Freedom of Information request - initially from the BBC.

However, A&E attendances in England are up by over 10 percent so there is increased pressure on departments across the service - but locally we are performing well in seeing patients as quickly as possible.
No no no this won't do. You're employed by the tax payer and you're delivering a message to the public using a public forum. You have a real name, you need to use it. What's the problem?
[quote][p][bold]WarringtonHospital[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silverlady54[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that some people are slipping through the net here, as elsewhere. Hospital management cannpt stop people attending A & E as it is usually the last resort. If these regular attenders are not getting the help they need from the other 'care providers' , be it GP or one of the many community resources which try to offer help in various ways, they will inevitably see the A & E as the place where they will be seen. It isn't right, but unless people become more self-reliant or other services become more readily available, this is what will continue to happen.[/p][/quote]Just to be clear, the hospital hasn't proactively released these figures. They came from a national Freedom of Information request - initially from the BBC. However, A&E attendances in England are up by over 10 percent so there is increased pressure on departments across the service - but locally we are performing well in seeing patients as quickly as possible.[/p][/quote]No no no this won't do. You're employed by the tax payer and you're delivering a message to the public using a public forum. You have a real name, you need to use it. What's the problem? PageA
  • Score: -2

8:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

local man says...

Hospital spokes person refuses to name 2 - but admits they are known as "MAD 4 IT" and "Page A".

:)
Hospital spokes person refuses to name 2 - but admits they are known as "MAD 4 IT" and "Page A". :) local man
  • Score: 4

9:18am Sun 19 Jan 14

PageA says...

local man wrote:
Hospital spokes person refuses to name 2 - but admits they are known as "MAD 4 IT" and "Page A".

:)
That's very funny. I don't want him/her to name the 2. I want them to name themself...Is it the mild-mannered janitor?
[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote: Hospital spokes person refuses to name 2 - but admits they are known as "MAD 4 IT" and "Page A". :)[/p][/quote]That's very funny. I don't want him/her to name the 2. I want them to name themself...Is it the mild-mannered janitor? PageA
  • Score: 1

10:37am Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

WOTEVER "LOCAL MAN" U COMEDIAN ! = NOT ! U THE "LOCAL MAN "BIKE" ?
WOTEVER "LOCAL MAN" U COMEDIAN ! = NOT ! U THE "LOCAL MAN "BIKE" ? MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 2

2:49pm Sun 19 Jan 14

happytee39 says...

You have to have worked within the A/E Dept to actually understand what goes on, it opened my eyes, its hard when you do have patients coming in with certain issues and at the same time you have 3 ambulances with people with heart problems, strokes etc awaiting help..some patients that need resuscitation, which I have seen to many times, and I have seen staff being badly abused by people who are drunk, some who would turn up at A/E numerous times in 1 day, just for somewhere to go.
You have to have worked within the A/E Dept to actually understand what goes on, it opened my eyes, its hard when you do have patients coming in with certain issues and at the same time you have 3 ambulances with people with heart problems, strokes etc awaiting help..some patients that need resuscitation, which I have seen to many times, and I have seen staff being badly abused by people who are drunk, some who would turn up at A/E numerous times in 1 day, just for somewhere to go. happytee39
  • Score: 2

2:53pm Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

CONFIRMED COMMENT ABOVE ! IT IS 2 "DRUNKS" !
CONFIRMED COMMENT ABOVE ! IT IS 2 "DRUNKS" ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 0

7:03pm Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

THE 2 PATIENTS ARE ME & PAGE A
THE 2 PATIENTS ARE ME & PAGE A MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 1

11:53am Mon 20 Jan 14

Anna Fender says...

What **** me off is when they say Drug and Alcohol Addiction is a disease. No it isn't it's self inflicted ! I don't know why people choose to pollute their own bodys !
What **** me off is when they say Drug and Alcohol Addiction is a disease. No it isn't it's self inflicted ! I don't know why people choose to pollute their own bodys ! Anna Fender
  • Score: -1

11:12am Tue 21 Jan 14

B.Louise says...

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. B.Louise
  • Score: -1

11:14am Tue 21 Jan 14

B.Louise says...

Addiction is a disease.
Addiction is a disease. B.Louise
  • Score: 1

1:06pm Tue 21 Jan 14

gerrumonside says...

Anna Fender wrote:
What **** me off is when they say Drug and Alcohol Addiction is a disease. No it isn't it's self inflicted ! I don't know why people choose to pollute their own bodys !
I'm certain most Alcoholics dont intend to "Pollute" their own bodies. They most likely start off having a drink or two which would cause them no harm whatsoever ,and in many cases has been proven to be quite good for you red wine a dram of whiskey etc. but then things can happen in their life which trigger the disease which is the "need" to drink to get through life.

I can only assume you dont "pollutte" your body with high fat foods, high sugar foods, High Salt foods, high additive foods, and Tobbacco. It must be great in your lettuce eating, mineral water drinking fresh air breathing self righteous world.
[quote][p][bold]Anna Fender[/bold] wrote: What **** me off is when they say Drug and Alcohol Addiction is a disease. No it isn't it's self inflicted ! I don't know why people choose to pollute their own bodys ![/p][/quote]I'm certain most Alcoholics dont intend to "Pollute" their own bodies. They most likely start off having a drink or two which would cause them no harm whatsoever ,and in many cases has been proven to be quite good for you red wine a dram of whiskey etc. but then things can happen in their life which trigger the disease which is the "need" to drink to get through life. I can only assume you dont "pollutte" your body with high fat foods, high sugar foods, High Salt foods, high additive foods, and Tobbacco. It must be great in your lettuce eating, mineral water drinking fresh air breathing self righteous world. gerrumonside
  • Score: 0

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