Why I took my family to fracking demonstration

Warrington Guardian: Dina at the demo, with 10-year-old son Rowan Dina at the demo, with 10-year-old son Rowan

DINA Baird, from Warrington Friends of the Earth, was among hundreds to take part in Sunday’s fracking demonstration at Barton Moss.

She took her family to protest against the current testing there, and in her words, explains why.

“Fracking ( the new F-word in our house).

“One of my four children Rowan asked me a question about fracking the other day. I’d read a bit about it and was clear on my position, but it’s not until you put it into words for a 10-year old, that the simple truth really hit home.

“Fracking is a process of drilling into the ground, forcing thousands and thousands of gallons of water and toxic chemicals under high pressure so that the surrounding rock cracks and some of the trapped natural gas is pushed out.

“Then it gets transported around and burned, producing carbon dioxide, adding to the problem of climate change.

“It doesn’t always work. Breaking the rock can lead to earth tremors. Chemicals can leak into the local water supplies. The gas doesn’t get collected completely and can escape. And when it does, that gas, methane, is much, much worse for climate change even than carbon dioxide.

“Then the other children asked me why it’s not being stopped. After all, it’s banned in France.

“They wanted to do something to show they are worried, they don’t want this and that they want to be heard. It’s their future.

“So that day we made our banners. On Sunday, along with around a thousand others, we marched.

“But there is a second option. We could secure continuous, safe, home-grown and free resources. We could protect our children from a future of wild and unpredictable weather patterns. We could invest in renewables instead.”

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12:45pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Daz@SankeyviaOrford says...

So is it a good idea to teach your children a very one sided view, in the name of protecting the planet ? What exactly are the home grown and free resources that are available refered to? I bet there are plenty of "home grown cigarettes" available in those protesters tents. Is it also a good idea to expose children to people shooting flares at the police helicopter ? I'm not sure I would take my children to see swampy and his mates getting stoned and firing shots at the police. ( each to there own for the so called good of the children) .
So is it a good idea to teach your children a very one sided view, in the name of protecting the planet ? What exactly are the home grown and free resources that are available refered to? I bet there are plenty of "home grown cigarettes" available in those protesters tents. Is it also a good idea to expose children to people shooting flares at the police helicopter ? I'm not sure I would take my children to see swampy and his mates getting stoned and firing shots at the police. ( each to there own for the so called good of the children) . Daz@SankeyviaOrford
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7:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

neilrk says...

Curious response Daz, if I may say so. A plethora of wild accusations about who lives at that peaceful camp and what they do there. Having actually been there and spoken to them (rather than just jumping to lazy conclusions), I can say from experience that they are really very nice, kind and peaceful people there. Offensive statements about getting stoned and firing things at helicopters (not proven) are just a little childish when this is a serious matter. Personally I think it's a great idea to take children to see democracy in action - real democracy, where people stand up for what they believe, peacefully, not just make an occasional trip to the ballot box. And to get them to think about and engage in an issue instead of just ignoring it - especially one that affects their futures - I think is great. Perhaps better to move on from a world of Tabloid, Soap Opera stereotypes of fellow human beings and unfounded critiques of others' parenting, and on instead to a world based on evidence and experience? In that world you'll find plenty of reasons to oppose fracking too.
Curious response Daz, if I may say so. A plethora of wild accusations about who lives at that peaceful camp and what they do there. Having actually been there and spoken to them (rather than just jumping to lazy conclusions), I can say from experience that they are really very nice, kind and peaceful people there. Offensive statements about getting stoned and firing things at helicopters (not proven) are just a little childish when this is a serious matter. Personally I think it's a great idea to take children to see democracy in action - real democracy, where people stand up for what they believe, peacefully, not just make an occasional trip to the ballot box. And to get them to think about and engage in an issue instead of just ignoring it - especially one that affects their futures - I think is great. Perhaps better to move on from a world of Tabloid, Soap Opera stereotypes of fellow human beings and unfounded critiques of others' parenting, and on instead to a world based on evidence and experience? In that world you'll find plenty of reasons to oppose fracking too. neilrk
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8:04pm Tue 14 Jan 14

ownedby4cats says...

I attended the rally too. It was really wonderful to see the people of Irlam and the surrounding areas come together peacefully to say "No." No to an industry which puts profits before people. No to a process that results in much more than simple pollution. Fracking wreaks long term damage to our air, water and the earth, perhaps to the point where the land is uninhabitable. We said "No" to our Government who are hell bent on fracking this nation from one end to the other, irrespective of our wishes and the consequences of their decisions. We said "No" to every single politician that supports this abhorrent, dangerous, extreme, energy extraction technology.

But don't take my word on this matter as definitive. Don't take the word of over a thousand concerned peaceful protectors who gathered in deep concern, at Barton Moss.

Rather I would urge you to do some research on the subject and get yourself an informed opinion about what the risks and the benefits are. And when you're done, we'll see you at Barton Moss with your children too, to put a stop to this crime against the earth and our humanity.
I attended the rally too. It was really wonderful to see the people of Irlam and the surrounding areas come together peacefully to say "No." No to an industry which puts profits before people. No to a process that results in much more than simple pollution. Fracking wreaks long term damage to our air, water and the earth, perhaps to the point where the land is uninhabitable. We said "No" to our Government who are hell bent on fracking this nation from one end to the other, irrespective of our wishes and the consequences of their decisions. We said "No" to every single politician that supports this abhorrent, dangerous, extreme, energy extraction technology. But don't take my word on this matter as definitive. Don't take the word of over a thousand concerned peaceful protectors who gathered in deep concern, at Barton Moss. Rather I would urge you to do some research on the subject and get yourself an informed opinion about what the risks and the benefits are. And when you're done, we'll see you at Barton Moss with your children too, to put a stop to this crime against the earth and our humanity. ownedby4cats
  • Score: 2

8:10pm Tue 14 Jan 14

tangerinewire says...

This women is a "nut job", did we not dig coal out of the ground for many years without any great environmental disaster or our drinking water being contaminated. Fracking is a clean method of extracting gas from the ground. Do the green, lefty, lentil eaters have any particle and workable alternatives ?.
This women is a "nut job", did we not dig coal out of the ground for many years without any great environmental disaster or our drinking water being contaminated. Fracking is a clean method of extracting gas from the ground. Do the green, lefty, lentil eaters have any particle and workable alternatives ?. tangerinewire
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8:12pm Tue 14 Jan 14

DPorter says...

These children aren't going to have much of a future if we don't invest in a low carbon economy. Burning more and more fossil fuels is irresponsible behaviour, not taking part in a peaceful demonstration.
These children aren't going to have much of a future if we don't invest in a low carbon economy. Burning more and more fossil fuels is irresponsible behaviour, not taking part in a peaceful demonstration. DPorter
  • Score: 7

8:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

DPorter says...

er - we did dig coal out of the ground for many years and burning it created acid rain which decimated forests across the world and poisoned rivers and streams and the CO2 emissions have caused global temperatures to rise causing desertification, flooding and extreme weather events, leading to crop failures, hunger and death.....and with a 40 year time lag the worst is yet to come.
er - we did dig coal out of the ground for many years and burning it created acid rain which decimated forests across the world and poisoned rivers and streams and the CO2 emissions have caused global temperatures to rise causing desertification, flooding and extreme weather events, leading to crop failures, hunger and death.....and with a 40 year time lag the worst is yet to come. DPorter
  • Score: 8

8:50pm Tue 14 Jan 14

neilrk says...

Charming "Tangerinewire"! Some alternatives might be to invest in renewable energy like solar, wind and tidal power, which comes free to us every day of the week and which will never run out, improve energy efficiency and home insulation and encourage reduced energy waste. The planet we live on has a climate and that climate is changing directly as a result of burning coal, which will lead to the kinds of weather events Dina and DPorter describe above, Is that not enough of a "great environmental disaster" for you? ... and what's wrong with lentils anyway?
Charming "Tangerinewire"! Some alternatives might be to invest in renewable energy like solar, wind and tidal power, which comes free to us every day of the week and which will never run out, improve energy efficiency and home insulation and encourage reduced energy waste. The planet we live on has a climate and that climate is changing directly as a result of burning coal, which will lead to the kinds of weather events Dina and DPorter describe above, Is that not enough of a "great environmental disaster" for you? ... and what's wrong with lentils anyway? neilrk
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1:52pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

Daz@SankeyviaOrford wrote:
So is it a good idea to teach your children a very one sided view, in the name of protecting the planet ? What exactly are the home grown and free resources that are available refered to? I bet there are plenty of "home grown cigarettes" available in those protesters tents. Is it also a good idea to expose children to people shooting flares at the police helicopter ? I'm not sure I would take my children to see swampy and his mates getting stoned and firing shots at the police. ( each to there own for the so called good of the children) .
"So is it a good idea to teach your children a very one sided view, in the name of protecting the planet ?"

perfectly normal for parents to promote their beliefs and values to their kids.

Presumably you would have condemn any parent who takes their child to church or took them along to wave a flag as the queen visited the town.
[quote][p][bold]Daz@SankeyviaOrford[/bold] wrote: So is it a good idea to teach your children a very one sided view, in the name of protecting the planet ? What exactly are the home grown and free resources that are available refered to? I bet there are plenty of "home grown cigarettes" available in those protesters tents. Is it also a good idea to expose children to people shooting flares at the police helicopter ? I'm not sure I would take my children to see swampy and his mates getting stoned and firing shots at the police. ( each to there own for the so called good of the children) .[/p][/quote]"So is it a good idea to teach your children a very one sided view, in the name of protecting the planet ?" perfectly normal for parents to promote their beliefs and values to their kids. Presumably you would have condemn any parent who takes their child to church or took them along to wave a flag as the queen visited the town. Nick Tessla
  • Score: 5

5:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Freeborn John says...

I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts.
I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.
I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts. I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion. Freeborn John
  • Score: 2

7:22pm Fri 17 Jan 14

grey-area says...

Still waiting for realistic alternatives - and I mean realistic. Apparently wind, solar and tidal has been proved to be possible but not practical for the UK.
Not to say fracking is good, but why won't people invest in the so called alternatives then?
Still waiting for realistic alternatives - and I mean realistic. Apparently wind, solar and tidal has been proved to be possible but not practical for the UK. Not to say fracking is good, but why won't people invest in the so called alternatives then? grey-area
  • Score: 3

8:21pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

Freeborn John wrote:
I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts.
I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.
Science has moved on somewhat in the last forty years - the global warming trend is now well established.

Global warming deniers cab be classed alongside flat-earthers and creationists who believe the universe is only a few thousand years old.
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts. I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Science has moved on somewhat in the last forty years - the global warming trend is now well established. Global warming deniers cab be classed alongside flat-earthers and creationists who believe the universe is only a few thousand years old. Nick Tessla
  • Score: -2

8:59pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Freeborn John says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts.
I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.
Science has moved on somewhat in the last forty years - the global warming trend is now well established.

Global warming deniers cab be classed alongside flat-earthers and creationists who believe the universe is only a few thousand years old.
Science has indeed moved on in the last 40 years, but a mere 5 years ago a pack of Warmist zealots at the University of East Anglia were caught red handed cooking the books in order to make sure that 'the global warming trend is now established', the so called Climategate.
In the words of the late Malcolm McLaren, 'Never trust a hippy'
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts. I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Science has moved on somewhat in the last forty years - the global warming trend is now well established. Global warming deniers cab be classed alongside flat-earthers and creationists who believe the universe is only a few thousand years old.[/p][/quote]Science has indeed moved on in the last 40 years, but a mere 5 years ago a pack of Warmist zealots at the University of East Anglia were caught red handed cooking the books in order to make sure that 'the global warming trend is now established', the so called Climategate. In the words of the late Malcolm McLaren, 'Never trust a hippy' Freeborn John
  • Score: 6

10:04pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Nick Tessla says...

Freeborn John wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Freeborn John wrote:
I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts.
I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.
Science has moved on somewhat in the last forty years - the global warming trend is now well established.

Global warming deniers cab be classed alongside flat-earthers and creationists who believe the universe is only a few thousand years old.
Science has indeed moved on in the last 40 years, but a mere 5 years ago a pack of Warmist zealots at the University of East Anglia were caught red handed cooking the books in order to make sure that 'the global warming trend is now established', the so called Climategate.
In the words of the late Malcolm McLaren, 'Never trust a hippy'
ONE group is an irrelevancy in the overall scheme of things.

The BBC were caught misrepresenting footage in their "Frozen Planet" series nobody with any sense would claim that disproves the existence of Polar Bears.
[quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeborn John[/bold] wrote: I believe that the global warming thing is just a con, another stick to beat taxes out of us, and in fabulous amounts. I'm old enough to remember the global cooling scare in the 70's, all mini ice ages and worldwide glaciers, the same motley crew were howling a completely different tune in those days, they're the systems useful idiots in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Science has moved on somewhat in the last forty years - the global warming trend is now well established. Global warming deniers cab be classed alongside flat-earthers and creationists who believe the universe is only a few thousand years old.[/p][/quote]Science has indeed moved on in the last 40 years, but a mere 5 years ago a pack of Warmist zealots at the University of East Anglia were caught red handed cooking the books in order to make sure that 'the global warming trend is now established', the so called Climategate. In the words of the late Malcolm McLaren, 'Never trust a hippy'[/p][/quote]ONE group is an irrelevancy in the overall scheme of things. The BBC were caught misrepresenting footage in their "Frozen Planet" series nobody with any sense would claim that disproves the existence of Polar Bears. Nick Tessla
  • Score: -1

7:48am Sat 18 Jan 14

Freeborn John says...

Aside from the global warming hoax, I should have mentioned this before, but I do actually oppose fracking.
Not because, as the tree huggers would have it, if the naughty humans put their gas fires on all the ice will melt and the little baby polar bears will cry, but because the gas is a finite resource which is about to be plundered by fast buck energy companies abetted by greedy politicians, all for nobody's benefit but their own.
A far better reason, I think.
Aside from the global warming hoax, I should have mentioned this before, but I do actually oppose fracking. Not because, as the tree huggers would have it, if the naughty humans put their gas fires on all the ice will melt and the little baby polar bears will cry, but because the gas is a finite resource which is about to be plundered by fast buck energy companies abetted by greedy politicians, all for nobody's benefit but their own. A far better reason, I think. Freeborn John
  • Score: -1

10:52am Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

BOTHERED !
BOTHERED ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -2

1:35pm Sun 19 Jan 14

old-codger says...

DINA Baird said,
After all, Fracking is banned in France,

So is Red Bull.

France is only one country, I don't agree with damage being done to the planet, But saying that fracking is banned in france to try to make a point is neither here nor there, Stupid in fact, Just as stupid as taking your children to a demonstration that no ten year old could be expected to fully understand.
DINA Baird said, After all, Fracking is banned in France, So is Red Bull. France is only one country, I don't agree with damage being done to the planet, But saying that fracking is banned in france to try to make a point is neither here nor there, Stupid in fact, Just as stupid as taking your children to a demonstration that no ten year old could be expected to fully understand. old-codger
  • Score: 4

2:59pm Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

WHO GIVES A MONKEYS ABOUT THIS NEWS ARTICLE ? NOT MANY PEOPLE !
WHO GIVES A MONKEYS ABOUT THIS NEWS ARTICLE ? NOT MANY PEOPLE ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 2

3:03pm Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

WHAT THE "FRACK" LOL !!! ;-)
WHAT THE "FRACK" LOL !!! ;-) MAD 4 IT
  • Score: -1

3:05pm Sun 19 Jan 14

MAD 4 IT says...

LOOKS LIKE A LOAD OF "HIPPIES" TO ME !
LOOKS LIKE A LOAD OF "HIPPIES" TO ME ! MAD 4 IT
  • Score: 0

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