Updated: Ferry Tavern pub set to reopen following flooding

Warrington Guardian: Landlord hits out following Ferry Tavern flooding Landlord hits out following Ferry Tavern flooding

A LANDLORD has hit out at Warrington Borough Council after claiming officials refused to help before his pub was badly flooded.

The Ferry Tavern at Fiddlers Ferry, is closed after severe weather last week saw the banks of the Mersey burst, water pouring in and rising to the level of the bar.

Andrew Mulholland, aged 36, was forced to move wife Jade and newborn son Charlie out of their home in the flat above the pub on Station Road on Thursday.

He slammed the council after claiming he was denied sandbags hours before the flood, despite the Environment Agency warning him he was in a high risk location.

Mr Mulholland said: “I asked offered to pick them up, and was told sandbags wouldn’t be issued until water was coming into the building.

“The point is to prevent flooding not use them when it’s already happened.

“The system is absolutely flawed and ridiculous.

“No one knew how high the water would come, and sandbags might not have made a difference, but the answer I got when asking for help was ‘no’.”

The father-of-one says he pays business rates of £1,659 a month, and council tax for the residential area.

“I was told by the council I’m on an unadopted road so I’m not their responsibility,” he said.

“But they still take money.

“It’s hard enough for anyone coming home with a newborn baby without your home and business being flooded.

“We are without income before Christmas so it’s a scary time.”

A spokesman for Warrington Borough Council said: “ It is the second time the pub has flooded since Mr Mulholland took over in May 2005.

A similar incident in 2006 caused £50,000 worth of damage.

This time, the town has rallied round to give support.

Heaters and a generator have been donated, as the pub is without power, along with 30 stools to replace damaged upholstery.

Aid has also been given with decorating and cleaning.

Mr Mulholland has been ‘overwhelmed by the response’.

Thanks to the Penketh community getting involved in a huge clean-up operation, the pub is now set to reopen on Sunday at 12pm. 

Andrew and Jade said they have been inundated with messages of support via Facebook and Twitter.

They added: “We cannot thank people enough for the support they have given – we have always proudly shouted about the fact we are a genuine community pub but we were overwhelmed by the kindness of family, staff, customers, local businesses and people from the community.

"There is a hell of a lot to be said for community spirit – the support that we have had is unbelievable.”

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7:44am Fri 13 Dec 13

Nick Tessla says...

Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?
Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags? Nick Tessla

7:53am Fri 13 Dec 13

Brick Bazooka says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?
What a great idea. Think I'll adopt your proactive thinking and order several tons of grit to spread on the roads I'll be using during winter.
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?[/p][/quote]What a great idea. Think I'll adopt your proactive thinking and order several tons of grit to spread on the roads I'll be using during winter. Brick Bazooka

9:24am Fri 13 Dec 13

itme says...

The council are kind enough to collect his council tax every month , what more does this selfish man want ?
The council are kind enough to collect his council tax every month , what more does this selfish man want ? itme

9:32am Fri 13 Dec 13

Kid from the Keth says...

Nick Tessla wrote:
Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?
What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you work for the council by any chance?

Theoretical problems? Have you watched the video?

Maybe the council could spend the money more wisely on more giant green skittles to plonk at the top of bridge street or... they could spend some time and money on helping to protect a historical building at the centre of a community.

And go and buy just one sandbag, put it in your garden and see if the sack hasn't degraded to a lump of sand within three months. Then just pretend you own a pub... Purchase a few hundred sand bags each time there is a high tide expected (half a dozen times a year) and then throw them all away when the risk has passed without flooding after they all degrade... and continue doing this for several years until a flood actually occurs.

You'd be in business for about 5 minutes... Hardly Alan Sugar are you Nick?
[quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you work for the council by any chance? Theoretical problems? Have you watched the video? Maybe the council could spend the money more wisely on more giant green skittles to plonk at the top of bridge street or... they could spend some time and money on helping to protect a historical building at the centre of a community. And go and buy just one sandbag, put it in your garden and see if the sack hasn't degraded to a lump of sand within three months. Then just pretend you own a pub... Purchase a few hundred sand bags each time there is a high tide expected (half a dozen times a year) and then throw them all away when the risk has passed without flooding after they all degrade... and continue doing this for several years until a flood actually occurs. You'd be in business for about 5 minutes... Hardly Alan Sugar are you Nick? Kid from the Keth

1:11pm Fri 13 Dec 13

LM0000 says...

The Ferry Tavern is re-opening on Sunday 15th December at 12.00noon! Hurrah! http://theferrytaver
n.com/
The Ferry Tavern is re-opening on Sunday 15th December at 12.00noon! Hurrah! http://theferrytaver n.com/ LM0000

1:19pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ghostwriter says...

i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?
i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place? ghostwriter

1:34pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Kellystad says...

ghostwriter wrote:
i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?
This is the same pub that has tide marks on the walls with dates to show how high previous tides have reached. So it is quite apparent to anybody who visits this pub that it is prone to flooding, so why is the landlord so surprised? Devastating for his business yes, but surely no surprise.
With such regular occurences of flooding maybe its time to look at increasing the height of the existing bunds to establish just where the over-topping is occuring rather than relying on emergency sand bag allocations from a third party.
[quote][p][bold]ghostwriter[/bold] wrote: i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?[/p][/quote]This is the same pub that has tide marks on the walls with dates to show how high previous tides have reached. So it is quite apparent to anybody who visits this pub that it is prone to flooding, so why is the landlord so surprised? Devastating for his business yes, but surely no surprise. With such regular occurences of flooding maybe its time to look at increasing the height of the existing bunds to establish just where the over-topping is occuring rather than relying on emergency sand bag allocations from a third party. Kellystad

5:12pm Fri 13 Dec 13

GAZDELUX says...

ghostwriter wrote:
i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?
What the hell would sandbanks do in that's case they would of Been swimming around like the rest of the stuff shown in the video captured by CCTV .. At end of day the council should pay out on building a wall around it to stop it from happening again like they are doing on Victoria park
[quote][p][bold]ghostwriter[/bold] wrote: i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?[/p][/quote]What the hell would sandbanks do in that's case they would of Been swimming around like the rest of the stuff shown in the video captured by CCTV .. At end of day the council should pay out on building a wall around it to stop it from happening again like they are doing on Victoria park GAZDELUX

5:54pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Nick Tessla says...

Kid from the Keth wrote:
Nick Tessla wrote:
Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?
What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you work for the council by any chance?

Theoretical problems? Have you watched the video?

Maybe the council could spend the money more wisely on more giant green skittles to plonk at the top of bridge street or... they could spend some time and money on helping to protect a historical building at the centre of a community.

And go and buy just one sandbag, put it in your garden and see if the sack hasn't degraded to a lump of sand within three months. Then just pretend you own a pub... Purchase a few hundred sand bags each time there is a high tide expected (half a dozen times a year) and then throw them all away when the risk has passed without flooding after they all degrade... and continue doing this for several years until a flood actually occurs.

You'd be in business for about 5 minutes... Hardly Alan Sugar are you Nick?
Until it happened it was theoretical.

Alan Sugar would take then necessary step to protect his businesses.
[quote][p][bold]Kid from the Keth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nick Tessla[/bold] wrote: Just a thought, but rather than expecting the council to use public money to deal with everyone's theoretical problems - why didn't you put your hand in your pockets and buy yourself some sandbags?[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you work for the council by any chance? Theoretical problems? Have you watched the video? Maybe the council could spend the money more wisely on more giant green skittles to plonk at the top of bridge street or... they could spend some time and money on helping to protect a historical building at the centre of a community. And go and buy just one sandbag, put it in your garden and see if the sack hasn't degraded to a lump of sand within three months. Then just pretend you own a pub... Purchase a few hundred sand bags each time there is a high tide expected (half a dozen times a year) and then throw them all away when the risk has passed without flooding after they all degrade... and continue doing this for several years until a flood actually occurs. You'd be in business for about 5 minutes... Hardly Alan Sugar are you Nick?[/p][/quote]Until it happened it was theoretical. Alan Sugar would take then necessary step to protect his businesses. Nick Tessla

5:57pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Nick Tessla says...

GAZDELUX wrote:
ghostwriter wrote:
i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?
What the hell would sandbanks do in that's case they would of Been swimming around like the rest of the stuff shown in the video captured by CCTV .. At end of day the council should pay out on building a wall around it to stop it from happening again like they are doing on Victoria park
It is not for the council to solve the problems of every private individual or business.

What next - repairing people's garden fences if they get blown down in a gale., paying for car repairs for everyone , etc. etc.
[quote][p][bold]GAZDELUX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghostwriter[/bold] wrote: i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?[/p][/quote]What the hell would sandbanks do in that's case they would of Been swimming around like the rest of the stuff shown in the video captured by CCTV .. At end of day the council should pay out on building a wall around it to stop it from happening again like they are doing on Victoria park[/p][/quote]It is not for the council to solve the problems of every private individual or business. What next - repairing people's garden fences if they get blown down in a gale., paying for car repairs for everyone , etc. etc. Nick Tessla

7:32pm Fri 13 Dec 13

MAD 4 IT says...

VERY SURPRISED THAT "ANY" INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD INSURE THIS PUB ! ITS A CONTINIOUS LOSING BATTLE AGAINST THE MIGHTY RIVER !
VERY SURPRISED THAT "ANY" INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD INSURE THIS PUB ! ITS A CONTINIOUS LOSING BATTLE AGAINST THE MIGHTY RIVER ! MAD 4 IT

12:28pm Mon 16 Dec 13

ghostwriter says...

GAZDELUX wrote:
ghostwriter wrote:
i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?
What the hell would sandbanks do in that's case they would of Been swimming around like the rest of the stuff shown in the video captured by CCTV .. At end of day the council should pay out on building a wall around it to stop it from happening again like they are doing on Victoria park
of course im well aware that sandbags would have made no difference (in fact that was what i was saying when reading the original article.

if you agree to run the pub, you agree to the risks.

a wall would cost millions to protect that stretch, all for what, 1 pub, a few businesses and a few boats where as victoria park wall protects hundreds of homes as well as a lot of businesses AND a main road.

at the end of the day, its not feasable, so they need to move to another pub, or rebuild further from the water. simple.
[quote][p][bold]GAZDELUX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghostwriter[/bold] wrote: i feel for everyone involved, but, if you choose to run a pub that has prior history of flooding, shouldnt you take precautions yourself i.e. buy your own sandbags or not move there in the first place?[/p][/quote]What the hell would sandbanks do in that's case they would of Been swimming around like the rest of the stuff shown in the video captured by CCTV .. At end of day the council should pay out on building a wall around it to stop it from happening again like they are doing on Victoria park[/p][/quote]of course im well aware that sandbags would have made no difference (in fact that was what i was saying when reading the original article. if you agree to run the pub, you agree to the risks. a wall would cost millions to protect that stretch, all for what, 1 pub, a few businesses and a few boats where as victoria park wall protects hundreds of homes as well as a lot of businesses AND a main road. at the end of the day, its not feasable, so they need to move to another pub, or rebuild further from the water. simple. ghostwriter

9:13pm Mon 16 Dec 13

mrdaveyasdfr says...

There are places around the country that constantly flood on very high tides. They have tight fitting rubber seals on boards that slot in front of the doors. There was ample warning of this tide. This should of been in the business plan.
Hope it's open soon.
There are places around the country that constantly flood on very high tides. They have tight fitting rubber seals on boards that slot in front of the doors. There was ample warning of this tide. This should of been in the business plan. Hope it's open soon. mrdaveyasdfr

3:46pm Mon 6 Jan 14

stupot0041 says...

Why don't you remove the roof, then ask the council to build a huge umbrella over the top because everytime it rains the place gets wet. It's next to a river which is famous for high tides for god's sake. If you don't have the money to invest in some protection then sell it to somebody who does.
Why don't you remove the roof, then ask the council to build a huge umbrella over the top because everytime it rains the place gets wet. It's next to a river which is famous for high tides for god's sake. If you don't have the money to invest in some protection then sell it to somebody who does. stupot0041

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