Machete man jailed for 32 months (From Warrington Guardian)

These people have been known to the police and local authority services for generations, and still there is no apparent change in their behaviour.

These people have been known to the police and local authority services for generations, and still there is no apparent change in their behaviour.

What happed to co-accused Gary Barton, He was the one with the machete and told him he would ‘chop him and his family up’ if he refused.
Have I missed something here.
Ryan Jarvis will be back on the street in 16 months, He got off lightly for an armed robbery, Which is what it is.

People don't like to think of the ongoing damage and side effects caused after the event as if the event wasn't traumatising enough they deserve everything they get

Emsthename wrote:
People don't like to think of the ongoing damage and side effects caused after the event as if the event wasn't traumatising enough they deserve everything they get

What side affects are you alluding to?

Post traumatic stress,severe depression and anxiety,having to give up a family home in fear of your family's safety,loss of jobs due to being to afraid to work,not being able to go out the house and do average day to day things,Counciling,ha
ving to take medication ect..just to name a few

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
People don't like to think of the ongoing damage and side effects caused after the event as if the event wasn't traumatising enough they deserve everything they get

What side affects are you alluding to?

Answer above

Emsthename wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
People don't like to think of the ongoing damage and side effects caused after the event as if the event wasn't traumatising enough they deserve everything they get

What side affects are you alluding to?

Answer above

Are your referring to a comment or to the article?

I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

Antbee.....
They will prob be thinking along the the same lines as you...ie will I get backdoored on a regular basis....and which kiddies can I sell my gear to when I get out.get a grip antbee u little pussyhole

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

I guessed,seeming the age they are as well.you would think they would have grown up plus they both have kids so you would also like to think they would be men by now not still little boys bullying people for the fun of it

Antbee123 wrote:
Been in for months so will b out soon ! Jail is thinking time , ! Didn't do to bad on sentence , see ya soon boyz

You are just a kid who thinks he's hard hanging round with wronguns! Pipe down!

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

I'd like to think so as you suggest, but in reality id doesn't happen. Their career criminals and at least one of them comes from a family that has a multi generational history of petty crime and criminal damage. Their children have the wrong type of role models. I hope that you eventually recover from your horrific ordeal. I realise that it may take some time and I hope that you get the support you need to cope with you change of circumstances.

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

I'd like to think so as you suggest, but in reality id doesn't happen. Their career criminals and at least one of them comes from a family that has a multi generational history of petty crime and criminal damage. Their children have the wrong type of role models. I hope that you eventually recover from your horrific ordeal. I realise that it may take some time and I hope that you get the support you need to cope with you change of circumstances.

It doesn't mention a multi generational history in the article SAC. You don't strike me as one who makes libellous comments or sweeping statements about a persons parentage without being informed. He could just have the same surname as the family that you are familiar with...or are you ex-police?
Either way, I'd be a little careful what you write on a public forum. Hope you and your family can put this behind you quickly Emma, all the best

PageA wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

I'd like to think so as you suggest, but in reality id doesn't happen. Their career criminals and at least one of them comes from a family that has a multi generational history of petty crime and criminal damage. Their children have the wrong type of role models. I hope that you eventually recover from your horrific ordeal. I realise that it may take some time and I hope that you get the support you need to cope with you change of circumstances.

It doesn't mention a multi generational history in the article SAC. You don't strike me as one who makes libellous comments or sweeping statements about a persons parentage without being informed. He could just have the same surname as the family that you are familiar with...or are you ex-police?
Either way, I'd be a little careful what you write on a public forum. Hope you and your family can put this behind you quickly Emma, all the best

I have read and understood the conditions for using this site and I have carefully not contravened them. I have additional information and very local knowledge. I am neither a current nor an ex-police officer, I am just a concerned member of the public.

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

PageA wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

I'd like to think so as you suggest, but in reality id doesn't happen. Their career criminals and at least one of them comes from a family that has a multi generational history of petty crime and criminal damage. Their children have the wrong type of role models. I hope that you eventually recover from your horrific ordeal. I realise that it may take some time and I hope that you get the support you need to cope with you change of circumstances.

It doesn't mention a multi generational history in the article SAC. You don't strike me as one who makes libellous comments or sweeping statements about a persons parentage without being informed. He could just have the same surname as the family that you are familiar with...or are you ex-police?
Either way, I'd be a little careful what you write on a public forum. Hope you and your family can put this behind you quickly Emma, all the best

I have read and understood the conditions for using this site and I have carefully not contravened them. I have additional information and very local knowledge. I am neither a current nor an ex-police officer, I am just a concerned member of the public.

Not sure that an awareness of the Warrington Guardian's terms and conditions wiould cut it with the judge. You started this discussion with a post about the family being known to police and local authority for generations. If you're not police then you're local authority. Either way, probably best to keep your insider knowledge to yourself

I hope so

PageA wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

PageA wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:

Emsthename wrote:
I'm referring to the article I am Emma Cosgrove and people that write things like oh see you soon boys annoys me asif it's just a big joke

I now see your point. They are switched off in regard to others feelings and it shows how they are nurtured as children. They have no moral guidance or respect for authority outside their own perverse and deviant subculture.

I'd like to think so as you suggest, but in reality id doesn't happen. Their career criminals and at least one of them comes from a family that has a multi generational history of petty crime and criminal damage. Their children have the wrong type of role models. I hope that you eventually recover from your horrific ordeal. I realise that it may take some time and I hope that you get the support you need to cope with you change of circumstances.

It doesn't mention a multi generational history in the article SAC. You don't strike me as one who makes libellous comments or sweeping statements about a persons parentage without being informed. He could just have the same surname as the family that you are familiar with...or are you ex-police?
Either way, I'd be a little careful what you write on a public forum. Hope you and your family can put this behind you quickly Emma, all the best

I have read and understood the conditions for using this site and I have carefully not contravened them. I have additional information and very local knowledge. I am neither a current nor an ex-police officer, I am just a concerned member of the public.

Not sure that an awareness of the Warrington Guardian's terms and conditions wiould cut it with the judge. You started this discussion with a post about the family being known to police and local authority for generations. If you're not police then you're local authority. Either way, probably best to keep your insider knowledge to yourself

Your comment is unwarranted as I am not before a court judge. As I have said before I am only a concerned member of public with local knowledge.

I disagree and was alerting you to the fact that by commenting, not on the men who have been convicted, but on their parents who have not, you are possibly changing people's opinion of them. From reading your previous posts I don't think that you are just a concerned member of the public but I'm sure we would find out your identity soon enough should members of that family begin proceedings against you, whether they be successful or not. If this family are as bad **s as you say, you might want to avoid that happening. Anyhow, this story's not about you, I'm just being a concerned member of the public.

PageA wrote:
I disagree and was alerting you to the fact that by commenting, not on the men who have been convicted, but on their parents who have not, you are possibly changing people's opinion of them. From reading your previous posts I don't think that you are just a concerned member of the public but I'm sure we would find out your identity soon enough should members of that family begin proceedings against you, whether they be successful or not. If this family are as bad **s as you say, you might want to avoid that happening. Anyhow, this story's not about you, I'm just being a concerned member of the public.

That would be an interesting scenario. I also agree with your statement with regard to this story not being about me, and I suggest that you take the opportunity to return to the point of issue.