Ending weekly bin collections will improve recycling rates - council says (From Warrington Guardian)

old-codger says...
10:17am Tue 19 Feb 13

Ending weekly bin collections will improve recycling rates - council says.............

HOW ??.

YOU ARE REMOVING GLASS AND CAN RECYCLING BINS IN PADGATE BECAUSE OF UNDER USE.

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missoconnor says...
1:40pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Just 3 questions and apologies if they've been answered previously:
1) I already use my blue bin and recycle wherever possible but my black bin is still full to the top every week. Where am I supposed to put the other week's rubbish?
2) Where are the savings from our council tax going to be spent?
3) Where, when and who did WBC consult with?

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pognoogle says...
1:41pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Warrington should introduce the scheme that Runcorn has where residents are rewarded with ponts/vouchers for recycling. The more you recycle the more you benefit. Might improve recycling rates a little.

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old-codger says...
2:20pm Tue 19 Feb 13

You can only recycle what is recycleable,

The rest goe,s in the black bin, The smaller bins are full in a week and larger bins are not being provided,
I can see what is going to happen and it will cost more money to sort it,
This council has had some brain dead idea,s in the past, This beats the lot.

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aj11129 says...
8:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13

here comes parks streets and every where full of black bin bags god help us when we have really hot days you will not be able to go out because the smell and who bets warrington will get more rats in the streets, mine is full with in a few days as i have 2 kids and one is in nappys so it will smell realy bad after 2 weeks of them siting in the bin.

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missoconnor says...
8:42pm Tue 19 Feb 13

The blue bins are only emptied every other week now. If black bins are only emptied every other week, this is a REDUCTION in service. Yet we'll pay the same and what's the betting council taxes will increase? Going to drop my black bin bags at the town hall doors :)

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BACON! says...
11:53pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Fair enough, they have to reduce costs.

Make the black bin bi-weekly.. Ok..

My bin is full every week, having a family of four.

My Recycle bin is full pretty much every week having a family of four.

It's bad enough I have to lift my wife into the bin to stomp it down so we can fit more in the recycling bin, that and our TWO compost bins which are also full.

Additionally recycled water...

I can't afford to have solar power installed, what more can I do???

The only thing is I'll just have to 'aquire' another black bin some how. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? I've no idea, I certainly won't be having waste festering just outside my back door where my children will be exposed to it.

This is one of the most idiotic ideas someone could come up with. Yeah, it'll cut down cost - oh wait, there is that rat problem. Oh and there is that issue with public safety. And don't forget all that waste people will be abandoning in public parks. And lets not forget people not bothering to put crap in the recycle bin when it shouldn't be..

How much will sorting that out cost?

Whichever idiot suggested this should be banned from doing anything beyond thinking.

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BACON! says...
11:56pm Tue 19 Feb 13

To follow - as in if they thought it, it should never be implemented.

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missoconnor says...
12:05am Wed 20 Feb 13

You've just given me an idea!! I'm going to report my black bin as stolen and get another, even if I have to pay for it. Would rather have 2 black bins in the garden than overflowing stinky rubbish everywhere. Genius! Thank you! It means I'll always have one full bin in the garden but hey ho

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missoconnor says...
12:05am Wed 20 Feb 13

You've just given me an idea!! I'm going to report my black bin as stolen and get another, even if I have to pay for it. Would rather have 2 black bins in the garden than overflowing stinky rubbish everywhere. Genius! Thank you! It means I'll always have one full bin in the garden but hey ho

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missoconnor says...
12:05am Wed 20 Feb 13

You've just given me an idea!! I'm going to report my black bin as stolen and get another, even if I have to pay for it. Would rather have 2 black bins in the garden than overflowing stinky rubbish everywhere. Genius! Thank you! It means I'll always have one full bin in the garden but hey ho

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missoconnor says...
12:05am Wed 20 Feb 13

You've just given me an idea!! I'm going to report my black bin as stolen and get another, even if I have to pay for it. Would rather have 2 black bins in the garden than overflowing stinky rubbish everywhere. Genius! Thank you! It means I'll always have one full bin in the garden but hey ho

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missoconnor says...
12:06am Wed 20 Feb 13

Sorry, my finger must have twitched and I can't delete the duplicate posts

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WTONSkeptic says...
7:50am Wed 20 Feb 13

BACON! wrote:
Fair enough, they have to reduce costs.

Make the black bin bi-weekly.. Ok..

My bin is full every week, having a family of four.

My Recycle bin is full pretty much every week having a family of four.

It's bad enough I have to lift my wife into the bin to stomp it down so we can fit more in the recycling bin, that and our TWO compost bins which are also full.

Additionally recycled water...

I can't afford to have solar power installed, what more can I do???

The only thing is I'll just have to 'aquire' another black bin some how. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? I've no idea, I certainly won't be having waste festering just outside my back door where my children will be exposed to it.

This is one of the most idiotic ideas someone could come up with. Yeah, it'll cut down cost - oh wait, there is that rat problem. Oh and there is that issue with public safety. And don't forget all that waste people will be abandoning in public parks. And lets not forget people not bothering to put crap in the recycle bin when it shouldn't be..

How much will sorting that out cost?

Whichever idiot suggested this should be banned from doing anything beyond thinking.

I actually think this is a good idea, and for part there is some misconceptions on why this is happening, I would assume that the cost of the service is higher, cost of fuel, as well as the central gov funding has been slashed, something like £50m over the past 3 years, I dont think its fair blaming WBC for that . As far as consultation is concerned, this was a part of the budget consultation, I just dont think anyone actually read the document or wanted to get involved, so with that in mind, I dont think anyone has the right to complain. As I have said many times, if you think you can do better, run for office, get elected and change the world as you see fit...be a part of the solution rather than whinging on a newspapers website.

As far as the 2 weekly collection, It will be hard to get used to, but other councils have done it for some time now, and from what I can tell its working, yeah will be hard with a family of 4, but it may help you see how much is being wasted, so the up shot maybe a savings for you? maybe, maybe not.

I was in St Helens a few weeks back, and there black boxes were out for recycling, bottles and cans weren't crushed, boxes not crushed....I think they would have fitted much more in if they crushed stuff down...

Anyway, it looks like its going to happen, so maybe we embrace it and see where it goes, if it does not work out, why not approach a full council meeting and state a valid case, if they dont listen to you them, well then its time to dump rubbish on the town hall step

[quote][p][bold]BACON![/bold] wrote: Fair enough, they have to reduce costs. Make the black bin bi-weekly.. Ok.. My bin is full every week, having a family of four. My Recycle bin is full pretty much every week having a family of four. It's bad enough I have to lift my wife into the bin to stomp it down so we can fit more in the recycling bin, that and our TWO compost bins which are also full. Additionally recycled water... I can't afford to have solar power installed, what more can I do??? The only thing is I'll just have to 'aquire' another black bin some how. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? I've no idea, I certainly won't be having waste festering just outside my back door where my children will be exposed to it. This is one of the most idiotic ideas someone could come up with. Yeah, it'll cut down cost - oh wait, there is that rat problem. Oh and there is that issue with public safety. And don't forget all that waste people will be abandoning in public parks. And lets not forget people not bothering to put crap in the recycle bin when it shouldn't be.. How much will sorting that out cost? Whichever idiot suggested this should be banned from doing anything beyond thinking.[/p][/quote]I actually think this is a good idea, and for part there is some misconceptions on why this is happening, I would assume that the cost of the service is higher, cost of fuel, as well as the central gov funding has been slashed, something like £50m over the past 3 years, I dont think its fair blaming WBC for that . As far as consultation is concerned, this was a part of the budget consultation, I just dont think anyone actually read the document or wanted to get involved, so with that in mind, I dont think anyone has the right to complain. As I have said many times, if you think you can do better, run for office, get elected and change the world as you see fit...be a part of the solution rather than whinging on a newspapers website. As far as the 2 weekly collection, It will be hard to get used to, but other councils have done it for some time now, and from what I can tell its working, yeah will be hard with a family of 4, but it may help you see how much is being wasted, so the up shot maybe a savings for you? maybe, maybe not. I was in St Helens a few weeks back, and there black boxes were out for recycling, bottles and cans weren't crushed, boxes not crushed....I think they would have fitted much more in if they crushed stuff down... Anyway, it looks like its going to happen, so maybe we embrace it and see where it goes, if it does not work out, why not approach a full council meeting and state a valid case, if they dont listen to you them, well then its time to dump rubbish on the town hall step WTONSkeptic

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aj11129 says...
9:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13

I do not know how this is a good idea i take that you have not had baby's with dirty nappies i do not want to know what it will smell like when they are in their for two weeks when it is summer am sure they will change it back to every week if they had bags of rubbish dumped the town hall steps in summer when they smell really bad. O bet that Warrington os going to smell really bad in summer

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old-codger says...
10:21pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Eric Pickles is in a pickle,

The community,s minister said in 2012 that weekly bin collections will stay because fortnightly collections are a health hazzard,
Now we see another one of these world famous U turns and an eerie silence from the pickle finger of fate,
I wonder what would happen if everyone failed to register a vote at the next council elections,
I,m sure one of you will enlighten me..

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cheshirecheesy says...
6:17pm Thu 21 Feb 13

we are a family of 6 with twins....we recycle everything possible...including burning all paper and cardboard in our burning bin |(nuisance in the summer as it taints neighbours washing altho i am polite enough to let them know beforehand) and my bins are still full to the brim...its going to be awful...we are not drivers thru health reasons and so cant use the local tip....this is another example of local government not listening to residents in the town....our black bin is full of rubbish that is not locally recycleable...the town is going to be a stinking mess...

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cheshirecheesy says...
6:17pm Thu 21 Feb 13

we are a family of 6 with twins....we recycle everything possible...including burning all paper and cardboard in our burning bin |(nuisance in the summer as it taints neighbours washing altho i am polite enough to let them know beforehand) and my bins are still full to the brim...its going to be awful...we are not drivers thru health reasons and so cant use the local tip....this is another example of local government not listening to residents in the town....our black bin is full of rubbish that is not locally recycleable...the town is going to be a stinking mess...

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defor_dog says...
6:50pm Sat 23 Feb 13

I've already emailed the council to ask if someone would like to personally collect my waste or should I just dump it at the Town Hall.

I'm still waiting for a reply..

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missoconnor says...
6:55pm Sat 23 Feb 13

It's a pity they don't understand how to consult with those who pay for their services. Wrong a couple of lines in a plan is not the same as asking what customers want!!!

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old-codger says...
11:39am Sun 24 Feb 13

I wrote to them in 1988 and I,m still waiting for a reply,

Emails seem to do the rounds until it finds someone with an empty delete box.

I wouldnt hold my breath
defor_dog,

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Stan Tonks says...
2:42pm Sun 24 Feb 13

With kids and disabled indoor cats we fill both our black bin (nappies and cat litter most toxic wastes) and blue bin weekly / fortnightly respectively. We've been experimenting on how to cut down these last few weeks on the amount of material that goes in OUR bin.

1) Burning material where possible in our log burner to recycle the heat value out of it (OK we release CO2 but it would release something at somepoint during disposals). Plastics were a bit of a mistake but batteries have some lovely flames. Solied nappies go well, wet nappies not so well. So that saved us about 1/5 of the black bin.

2) We already compost everything we can that is recyclable in terms of food waste. We've bought a couple more bins so we'll have four in rotation instead of two. In the early / late season we never fill our green bin, so some composting wastes have been put in there with the grass clippings (lettuce is just big grass). The guy on the green bins seemed OK with this, saying they never check unless it is large bits of wood anyway. So more "leafy" recyclable food waste will go in the green bin. (Wet rather than soiled organic nappies have also been "tested" in this manner for emergency disposals if points 1) and 3) ever fail.

3) We've set up a "collective" our road. Clive (single man 90) used to only put his small black bin out every 4 weeks. He has applied for a large bin and leaves a little red ribbon on it to indicate there is space so we use that. A few other neighbours have got into this spirit as well, one joking suggesting he sets up a website www.warringtonbinsha
re.co.uk - keep your eyes open).

With the above, we managed not to put our black bin out this week. We've recovered energy from cardboard, magazines, oils, batteries, clothes, plastics packaging (make sure your normal fire is burning well and only put small amounts on, making sure the fumes are fully drawn up the stack).

What we have worked out of course and I don't know if the bins lorries weigh what they collect is we've just spread capacity about between bins on the road between high / low use neighbours so nominally the same waste is going to landfiull anyway - except that being burnt - obviously there is some cold ash which goes back in the black bin as well.

With kids and disabled indoor cats we fill both our black bin (nappies and cat litter most toxic wastes) and blue bin weekly / fortnightly respectively. We've been experimenting on how to cut down these last few weeks on the amount of material that goes in OUR bin. 1) Burning material where possible in our log burner to recycle the heat value out of it (OK we release CO2 but it would release something at somepoint during disposals). Plastics were a bit of a mistake but batteries have some lovely flames. Solied nappies go well, wet nappies not so well. So that saved us about 1/5 of the black bin. 2) We already compost everything we can that is recyclable in terms of food waste. We've bought a couple more bins so we'll have four in rotation instead of two. In the early / late season we never fill our green bin, so some composting wastes have been put in there with the grass clippings (lettuce is just big grass). The [disgruntled about to finish his contract agency] guy on the green bins seemed OK with this, saying they never check unless it is large bits of wood anyway. So more "leafy" recyclable food waste will go in the green bin. (Wet rather than soiled organic nappies have also been "tested" in this manner for emergency disposals if points 1) and 3) ever fail. 3) We've set up a "collective" our road. Clive (single man 90) used to only put his small black bin out every 4 weeks. He has applied for a large bin and leaves a little red ribbon on it to indicate there is space so we use that. A few other neighbours have got into this spirit as well, one joking suggesting he sets up a website www.warringtonbinsha re.co.uk - keep your eyes open). With the above, we managed not to put our black bin out this week. We've recovered energy from cardboard, magazines, oils, batteries, clothes, plastics packaging (make sure your normal fire is burning well and only put small amounts on, making sure the fumes are fully drawn up the stack). What we have worked out of course and I don't know if the bins lorries weigh what they collect is we've just spread capacity about between bins on the road between high / low use neighbours so nominally the same waste is going to landfiull anyway - except that being burnt - obviously there is some cold ash which goes back in the black bin as well. Stan Tonks

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missoconnor says...
2:57pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Any ideas what we'll do when the lorries can't come out, like when it's snowing or icy or good forbid if Xmas falls on a week day?

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