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£140k cannabis factory raided in Winwick (From Warrington Guardian)
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£140k cannabis factory raided in Winwick
1:59pm Wednesday 13th February 2013 in News
£140k cannabis factory raided in Winwick
POLICE have uncovered a cannabis factory containing plants with a street value of £140,000 in Winwick Park.
They raided the property on Austen Drive, which was empty at the time, at 7am on Monday.
They found 125 plants which officers say would have had a street vale of £140,000.
Inspector Rob Dickinson, who has recently taken over at Warrington West Neighbourhood Policing Unit, said: “This has been a significant find and fortunately, we have been able to put a stop to it.
"The warrant was executed following information, which was passed on by members of the public, and, as a result, a substantial amount of illegal drugs that could have been destined for the streets have been taken out of circulation.
"Warrington West NPU is committed to tackling all forms of criminal activity and anti-social behaviour in the area.
"Illegal drugs can have a major impact on an area and it is an issue we take extremely seriously.
"Anyone with any information in relation to drug related activity in Warrington is urged to call Cheshire Police on 101 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111.”
Comments(27)
Andrew James Cox
says...
3:38pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Even the most high security prisons? No. If you cant keep them out of prisons who is delusional enough to think we can keep them out of a free society?
Will humans stop taking drugs? No. The known history of the human species shows this to be true. The concept of a 'drug war', or whatever you choose to call this, is to eliminate drugs from society, is this possible? No. So surely the question is: if we accept cannabis, ecstasy, alcohol, opiates etc cannot be removed from the dictionary who do we want in control of this market?
What happens when a drug dealer is arrested/imprisoned? Nothing, another individual takes their place. 'Gangsters' will stay 'gangsters', many individuals involved in drug crime are opportunists, not 'gangsters' . There is a massive difference.
Legalisation of drugs is not about the drugs, but about the 'gangsters' and terrorism it funds, including the violence, destruction, death, fear etc all created by prohibition.
A large % of those asked reply that 'curiosity' is a major factor in using drugs. I would not be typing this and you reading this without curiosity.
Robert Peel designed a type of law enforcement that protected people from other people doing them harm. When you institute a prohibition you are not protecting people from other people but protecting people against themselves. Protecting people from themselves is a function of family, church, education and the health care system; it never is and never should have been intended to be a law enforcement function. Law is attempting to enforce morality; the police are not trained to do this, they are not capable of this and most importantly it has been an abject failure of the worst kind.
Will legalisation increase drug use? No. Does everyone smoke tobacco? No. Drink alcohol? No. coffee? No. Eat fast food? No. If prohibition is such a good idea why not apply this to tobacco and alcohol? Because it would not work. why then would it work for other drugs?
Even 'god', the creator of man and women, bestowed us free will. Prohibition removes this god given right. People choose to take drugs. Fact
The first prohibition; do these words sound familiar to anyone: Do not eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Heard that phrase before? First prohibition and the first example of zero tolerance, little bite, big bite from the apple doesn’t matter you are out of the garden.
How many people had to be watched to make that prohibition work, two, no other names just adam and eve. How many trees of knowledge were in the garden, one, who was the cop for that one? The all seeing eye/god almighty; only had top watch two people and one tree. God could not enforce this prohibition. If you read this story it tells you why it failed; after the creator created the creator granted something to the creation, and that was called free will – the right to choose whether or not they ate from the tree, because without that what point was there planting the tree as there would be no test. This is what drives the drug trade – people choosing to take drugs whether the governments like it or not.
old-codger
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7:14pm Wed 13 Feb 13
You may have caught GEORGE OSBORNES attention with that one mate..
Apage1
says...
9:58pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Owen Richards wrote:Ha ha!
We need to stop this stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis. It is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents. If we had a properly regulated system of production and supply we'd have no more illegal and dangerous cannabis farms causing fires. Instead we'd have thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over the THC and CBD content.
Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.
If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime.
CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.
Copy and paste bits of this argument into google and see how many local papers it pops up in. Look at how many different names are used and on how many different dates. Newspapers owned by Newsquest funnily enough. Maybe he represents a pro drugs lobby and is actively posting the same paragraph on drugs stories across the nation?
I'd hate to think that it was an employee of this newspaper who was actively stirring up the debate, not with a potentially dangerous subject such as this. Don't you agree Old-Codger?
old-codger
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10:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13
I'd hate to think that it was an employee of this newspaper who was actively stirring up the debate, not with a potentially dangerous subject such as this. Don't you agree Old-Codger?”
I certainly do hope its not an employee of any newspaper trying to stir up a debate,
This page is for readers comments and nothing more. We readers disagree on many things but we are united in defence of our comments pages.
We need no encouragement from newspaper staff, If that is the case.. But I hope not..
Apage1
says...
8:35am Thu 14 Feb 13
old-codger wrote:Seems more than encouragement to me OC. How can this comment, that has featured in publications such as this nationwide, appear an hour after the story is published if it hasn't been planted. If this has been put here by the Warrington Guardian, are we to assume that it is the opinion of the Warrington Guardian? If it is them, and that's the message they'd like to get across,why don't they put that they're a pro-drugs newspaper on the front cover rather than taking this subversive approach? What effect has reading these comments had on any younger or more impressionable people? we'll never know. The second comment also featured on the mail on sunday website back in January. Probably the work of 1 rogue reporter...
Apage1 says...
I'd hate to think that it was an employee of this newspaper who was actively stirring up the debate, not with a potentially dangerous subject such as this. Don't you agree Old-Codger?”
I certainly do hope its not an employee of any newspaper trying to stir up a debate,
This page is for readers comments and nothing more. We readers disagree on many things but we are united in defence of our comments pages.
We need no encouragement from newspaper staff, If that is the case.. But I hope not..
Owen Richards
says...
8:57am Thu 14 Feb 13
Yes, there is an organised campaign to fight back against the misinformation and propaganda promoted by newspapers and the government about cannabis.
The media, the alcohol and pharmaceutical industries and successive governments work hand in hand to demonise cannabis which is actually a replacement for alcohol, oil, plastics, timber, many medicines and has far less environmental and health impacts than the destructive and dangerous products that are forced on us.
Reefer madness is alive and well in 2013 and its based on corruption and organised disinformation.
Henry Ford designed the Model T to run on cannabis ethanol and then along came the oil industry supported by media magnates and the rest is our history of war, pollution, vested interests, etc, etc
Apage1
says...
9:19am Thu 14 Feb 13
More interested to know how you can coordinate a pro drug campaign using these newspapers so effectively. How can a man who comments on a story in a local paper in the south of England, respond to a story in another local paper in the Northwest in an hour of the story being published?
Apage1
says...
9:37am Thu 14 Feb 13
gerrumonside
says...
11:14am Thu 14 Feb 13
If any of the pro cannabis lot cared to read the report and in particular this:
"The warrant was executed following information, which was passed on by members of the public"
the majority of people do not want cannabis farms near their homes or on their estates thats why they ring the police and report it............
its simple lots of people dont like pretty much anything about Cannabis.
I love some of the pro arguments In fact I'm inspired by one above and I am going to ring a multi billion dollar company now and tell them why should I pay them for Water when I can get it free from rivers streams and the sky...!!!
seriously deluded.....
gcmercier
says...
12:36pm Thu 14 Feb 13
The UK government and police need to realise that a majority of the UK electorate is opposed to the prohibition of cannabis.
In this time of austerity when the Conservatives are closing hospital wards and police stations, it makes no sense to waste our taxes arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating cannabis consumers and the growers who supply them.
It has been medically proven that cannabis is both safer and less addictive than alcohol or tobacco, so the prohibition of cannabis has got to stop.
Owen Richards
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12:50pm Thu 14 Feb 13
gerrumonside wrote:Of course people don't want illegal cannabis farms run by organised crime in their neighbourhood. This is exactly the result of present policy.
So much drivel and the same old tired Wonder drug arguments.....
If any of the pro cannabis lot cared to read the report and in particular this:
"The warrant was executed following information, which was passed on by members of the public"
the majority of people do not want cannabis farms near their homes or on their estates thats why they ring the police and report it............
its simple lots of people dont like pretty much anything about Cannabis.
I love some of the pro arguments In fact I'm inspired by one above and I am going to ring a multi billion dollar company now and tell them why should I pay them for Water when I can get it free from rivers streams and the sky...!!!
seriously deluded.....
The only way to solve this problem is to take the £6 billion market out of the hands of criminals and create thousands of new jobs in legitimate cannabis farms properly sited and secured.
philipkroberts
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12:57pm Thu 14 Feb 13
For those who say " that's impossible they have very tight drug tests" your wrong. Half the force is bent.
Stop wasting my money looking for plants and do something decent with it.
old-codger
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1:45pm Thu 14 Feb 13
Scroll up to the first comment written by Owen Richards,
You will see thats where I copied it from, It isnt my comment. Where he got it from I dont know, Ask him instead of accusing me of being a journalist, All I added was that the income would be of intrest to George Osborne..
Apage1
says...
2:29pm Thu 14 Feb 13
old-codger wrote:Owen Richards doesn't exist OC, he's just one of many profiles set up to spread this nonsense across the land. Copy bits of his text into google and see where it gets you. Actually, don't bother ...He's probably you
Apage1,
Scroll up to the first comment written by Owen Richards,
You will see thats where I copied it from, It isnt my comment. Where he got it from I dont know, Ask him instead of accusing me of being a journalist, All I added was that the income would be of intrest to George Osborne..
old-codger
says...
9:01pm Thu 14 Feb 13
Paranoid comes to mind,
I am neither a reporter nor Owen Richards,
In fact if you try to register with another user name it wont accept you as your email address is registered to another user, I found this out when I once lost my log in details after a long stint abroad..
Still, Enjoy your silly game.
Apage1
says...
10:02pm Thu 14 Feb 13
HappyMisery
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3:37pm Fri 15 Feb 13
old-codger
says...
10:34pm Fri 15 Feb 13
10:02pm Thu 14 Feb 13
You had a long stint abroad...lost your log in details...so tried somebody elses e-mail address??!??..! Just stop talking”..
I didnt take my laptop, No point when your miles from the nearest town, So get real instead of acting like a troll.
andreask
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9:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13
old-codger wrote:Well, canabis does make you paranoid!!!
I see, lol, Total waste of time talking to you,
Paranoid comes to mind,
I am neither a reporter nor Owen Richards,
In fact if you try to register with another user name it wont accept you as your email address is registered to another user, I found this out when I once lost my log in details after a long stint abroad..
Still, Enjoy your silly game.
MRJCLAY
says...
1:58pm Mon 18 Feb 13
To find out the truth about this very dubious organisation and its leader, google: Peter Reynolds Watch.
Sinisterdexter
says...
2:37pm Mon 18 Feb 13
on does not work..obviously,so why still buy into it,It is a failed policy...
old-codger
says...
6:41pm Mon 18 Feb 13
In fact if you try to register with another user name it wont accept you as your email address is registered to another user, I found this out when I once lost my log in details after a long stint abroad..............
.
WHERE does it say I tried somebody elses email address,.......Your seeing things that are not there,
SORT YOUR HEAD OUT, KEEP OF THE WEED...
SAC_in_Warrington
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11:26pm Mon 18 Feb 13
LJ
says...
9:49am Tue 19 Feb 13
MRJCLAY wrote:Ha ha
I suggest people do more research into the organisation CLEAR, which is led by a very controversial right-wing politician called Peter Reynolds.
To find out the truth about this very dubious organisation and its leader, google: Peter Reynolds Watch.
Thank you so much for that. I've added it to my 'favourites'
old-codger
says...
10:41am Tue 19 Feb 13
11:26pm Mon 18 Feb 13
Not to worry old-codger we regular commentators know that you have been commenting on this site for a while now. I think it is best to ignore comments from such entities as Apage1. They don't realise that you can give as good and sometimes better than what you get from the likes of Apage1.”........
I thank you SAC you hit the nail on the head,
Apage1
says...
1:00pm Tue 19 Feb 13
old-codger wrote:I'm not an old hand at this like you SAC, so maybe I shouldn't be so quick to judge. My apologies OC, please feel free to ignore me if you wish. Drugs are bad mkay. This stuff is robbing our young people of their ambition, damaging their long-term mental health and regularly produces outbreaks of hyper-aggressive behaviour. I know where I stand when I'm dealing with a drunk, but this is far removed. The treasury could make a few bob from all types of things, but that doesn't make it right. I'm glad the police got a result this time.
SAC_in_Warrington says...
11:26pm Mon 18 Feb 13
Not to worry old-codger we regular commentators know that you have been commenting on this site for a while now. I think it is best to ignore comments from such entities as Apage1. They don't realise that you can give as good and sometimes better than what you get from the likes of Apage1.”........
I thank you SAC you hit the nail on the head,
Owen Richards says...
2:55pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.
If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime.
CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.