Warrington turnout in police and crime commissioner vote low

Warrington turnout in police and crime commissioner vote low

Warrington turnout in police and crime commissioner vote low

First published in News

THE voting turnout percentage in the borough for the first police and crime commissioner vote barely reached double figures.

Just 13.33 per cent called into polling stations yesterday to cast their vote in the election to find a new commissioner responsible for police budgets and crime prevention.

The figure was only marginally better across the Cheshire region with an overall total of 14.08 per cent.

Voters had reported some polling stations had not reached 100 voters by 9pm last night. The count to find out who will pick up the role is set to take place in Chester at 2pm today.

 

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11:09am Fri 16 Nov 12

Nick Tessla says...

A bad idea poorly executed.


Whoever gets in cannot claim to have an electoral mandate.


The real test for them starts after they take office - people should judge him or her on their measurable results and, people, please turn out and vote next time - those districts around the country where few, or even no-one, voted will still have their Police service run (or ruined) by whoever gets in regardless of your apathy - someone always gets in.


Let's hope that whoever is in power in central government the next time there is an election for this post (if there is still such a position) improves the organisation of that election.
A bad idea poorly executed. Whoever gets in cannot claim to have an electoral mandate. The real test for them starts after they take office - people should judge him or her on their measurable results and, people, please turn out and vote next time - those districts around the country where few, or even no-one, voted will still have their Police service run (or ruined) by whoever gets in regardless of your apathy - someone always gets in. Let's hope that whoever is in power in central government the next time there is an election for this post (if there is still such a position) improves the organisation of that election. Nick Tessla
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11:25am Fri 16 Nov 12

Paul Kennedy says...

The next election for Police & Crime Commissioners, if they haven't been scrapped, will be in May 2016, the same time as the local elections, so turnout should be considerably higher, and at least people will have had over three years to consider their performance. It is also worth noting that many people are not aware that a PCC is a paid job, with salaries in the range £65,000 - £100,000 per annum. For Cheshire the proposed salary is £75,000.
The next election for Police & Crime Commissioners, if they haven't been scrapped, will be in May 2016, the same time as the local elections, so turnout should be considerably higher, and at least people will have had over three years to consider their performance. It is also worth noting that many people are not aware that a PCC is a paid job, with salaries in the range £65,000 - £100,000 per annum. For Cheshire the proposed salary is £75,000. Paul Kennedy
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11:40am Fri 16 Nov 12

Nick Tessla says...

Paul Kennedy wrote:
The next election for Police & Crime Commissioners, if they haven't been scrapped, will be in May 2016, the same time as the local elections, so turnout should be considerably higher, and at least people will have had over three years to consider their performance. It is also worth noting that many people are not aware that a PCC is a paid job, with salaries in the range £65,000 - £100,000 per annum. For Cheshire the proposed salary is £75,000.
A well paid position - with no real electoral mandate.


I think you're wrong about most people not being aware of it's paid nature.

It's just that there is no great desire to have such a position, no real understanding what the commissioner does, or ability to see the need for the centralising of power in one individual - other than as a symptom of the tory dislike of local democracy (along with Gove's obsession with free schools and academies)


That has, combined with the pathetic handling of the process by the government, has lead to a result where the winning candidate can justify their democratic credentials only slightly more than the new Chinese leader.
[quote][p][bold]Paul Kennedy[/bold] wrote: The next election for Police & Crime Commissioners, if they haven't been scrapped, will be in May 2016, the same time as the local elections, so turnout should be considerably higher, and at least people will have had over three years to consider their performance. It is also worth noting that many people are not aware that a PCC is a paid job, with salaries in the range £65,000 - £100,000 per annum. For Cheshire the proposed salary is £75,000.[/p][/quote]A well paid position - with no real electoral mandate. I think you're wrong about most people not being aware of it's paid nature. It's just that there is no great desire to have such a position, no real understanding what the commissioner does, or ability to see the need for the centralising of power in one individual - other than as a symptom of the tory dislike of local democracy (along with Gove's obsession with free schools and academies) That has, combined with the pathetic handling of the process by the government, has lead to a result where the winning candidate can justify their democratic credentials only slightly more than the new Chinese leader. Nick Tessla
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12:11pm Fri 16 Nov 12

kathnchrissy says...

Not having a clue who the candidates were or anything about them, I thought about voting but couldn't be arsed
Not having a clue who the candidates were or anything about them, I thought about voting but couldn't be arsed kathnchrissy
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12:15pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Paul Kennedy says...

Nick, I said many people, rather than most people. I think that you are correct with your assertion regarding no great desire to have such a position or understanding of what a commissioner will do.
Nick, I said many people, rather than most people. I think that you are correct with your assertion regarding no great desire to have such a position or understanding of what a commissioner will do. Paul Kennedy
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12:21pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Paul Kennedy says...

kathnchrissy wrote:
Not having a clue who the candidates were or anything about them, I thought about voting but couldn't be arsed
You were not alone, nearly 87% of Warrington's electorate joined you. Indeed when I voted, and observed that I had missed the rush, the polling clerks observed that they had too !
[quote][p][bold]kathnchrissy[/bold] wrote: Not having a clue who the candidates were or anything about them, I thought about voting but couldn't be arsed[/p][/quote]You were not alone, nearly 87% of Warrington's electorate joined you. Indeed when I voted, and observed that I had missed the rush, the polling clerks observed that they had too ! Paul Kennedy
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1:14pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Nick Tessla says...

Downing Street now has the brass neck to blame the media for not doing the Government's job in publicising this fiasco.


Perhaps they shouldn't have scrapped the Central Office for Information ( while planning to INCREASE the Government's information budget)
Downing Street now has the brass neck to blame the media for not doing the Government's job in publicising this fiasco. Perhaps they shouldn't have scrapped the Central Office for Information ( while planning to INCREASE the Government's information budget) Nick Tessla
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2:06pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Gorsedd says...

"Whoever gets in cannot claim to have an electoral mandate." - you're right there Nick, but if it is one of the political party candidates, that is what they will claim.

This has been an utter waste of time and public money. Some of us took the time and trouble to find out what and who was on offer, but we didn't like it. Nonetheless it is all those who did not want to vote who will be blamed for not taking part in what was always going to be a fiasco.

If the powers that be are reluctant to put an additional box on all ballot papers which says "None of the above", they should change things so that any election with less than say a 25% turnout is declared null and void, with all candidates loosing their deposits.
"Whoever gets in cannot claim to have an electoral mandate." - you're right there Nick, but if it is one of the political party candidates, that is what they will claim. This has been an utter waste of time and public money. Some of us took the time and trouble to find out what and who was on offer, but we didn't like it. Nonetheless it is all those who did not want to vote who will be blamed for not taking part in what was always going to be a fiasco. If the powers that be are reluctant to put an additional box on all ballot papers which says "None of the above", they should change things so that any election with less than say a 25% turnout is declared null and void, with all candidates loosing their deposits. Gorsedd
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3:00pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Boxerboy says...

All there is to say on this issue is that it's a total waste of money .
All there is to say on this issue is that it's a total waste of money . Boxerboy
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7:09pm Fri 16 Nov 12

annie1275 says...

Boxerboy wrote:
All there is to say on this issue is that it's a total waste of money .
Here here...Now we all know this government has got money to burn. Tax payers money..
Cuts,cuts,and more cuts,and they spend money on stupid things like this.
[quote][p][bold]Boxerboy[/bold] wrote: All there is to say on this issue is that it's a total waste of money .[/p][/quote]Here here...Now we all know this government has got money to burn. Tax payers money.. Cuts,cuts,and more cuts,and they spend money on stupid things like this. annie1275
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11:45am Sat 17 Nov 12

old-codger says...

annie1275 says...
7:09pm Fri 16 Nov 12 ..
Here here...Now we all know this government has got money to burn. Tax payers money..
Cuts,cuts,and more cuts,and they spend money on stupid things like this.”............
..

Very well said annie1275 and boxerboy, Its our money they are wasting..
annie1275 says... 7:09pm Fri 16 Nov 12 .. Here here...Now we all know this government has got money to burn. Tax payers money.. Cuts,cuts,and more cuts,and they spend money on stupid things like this.”............ .. Very well said annie1275 and boxerboy, Its our money they are wasting.. old-codger
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