Travellers are back on Silver Lane, Risley

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TRAVELLERS have returned to the spot they were ordered to leave by the council five months ago.

The group, which has set up camp off Silver Lane, Risley, left the site in April this year after Warrington Borough Council secured an order from Warrington Magistrates Court.

But nearby residents were despaired to see the travellers have returned in the last week and the situation is ‘worse than it has ever been’.

One disgruntled homeowner added: “There are more than 35 caravans parked on the public footpath completely blocking it.

“There are also horseboxes parked on the other side of the road and their associated vehicles parked all over Silver Lane.

“It is totally impassable by vehicle and it would be impossible to now drive down Silver Lane.”

Residents are now waiting to see what action the council will take next.

Comments(26)

uncle serge says...
12:11pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Confiscate the caravans, sell them and use the money to tidy up after them. Problem solved.

old-codger says...
12:31pm Wed 24 Oct 12

I always thought court orders were valid for a fixed term, Court orders are not cheap, Why do council tax payers have to keep paying out to get rid of non-council tax payers, It would be cheaper to put double yellow lines down on both sides of the road then the police can move them on without all the expense of going to court. Please correct me if I am wrong..

Daz@SankeyviaOrford says...
12:46pm Wed 24 Oct 12

They should all be ticketed by the police or traffic wardens ! It is ileagal parking on public footpaths no yellow lines needed to do this, however they should put double yellows the full length as per a previous comment. I'm sure they wouldn't pay the fines but unpaid fines will show on anpr cameras and encourage the police to pull the vehicles over all the time and issue more fines for none payment.. Also the police could search each vehicle when pulled . I'm pretty sure they carry loads of cash that is not accounted for, this could be taken off them as proceeds if crime until proven otherwise by the traveler . Hit em in the pocket it's the only thing they would take notice of.

grappenhall boy says...
2:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Maybe if the police asked the travellers to see the receipts or paid invoices for equipment ie generators,caravans,
if these cannot be provided remove the items until ownership can be proved.

If this policy were to implemented by the police I don't think we would see the travellers in the town again.

Just a thought

Freeborn John says...
3:20pm Wed 24 Oct 12

There are several white vans chock full of generators, compressors, chain saws and all sorts of power tools, all brand new, being hawked around the area by the site residents.
A visit from the law asking for receipts might send them elsewhere sharpish...

Nick Tessla says...
4:11pm Wed 24 Oct 12

If you are talking about accusations of theft then the burden of proof would be on the authorites - in criminal matters beyond all reasonable doubt (and no, before someone starts bleating, that is nothing to do with Human Rights Legislation).



Surely it must be possible to obtain some form of injunction with a power of arrest for breaking it.


If the lane is impassable then can the Police request that they move and if the travellers refuse arrest them for wilful obstruction of the highway?


The real pain is the fact that the problems caused by such groups do not get solved - at best they get moved so that they just become somebody elses problem - the only long term solution is for authorities to have the power, and the will, to act so quickly and decisively in moving them on that their only true option is to change their lifestyle.

Melonfish says...
4:22pm Wed 24 Oct 12

"Silver lane is impassable" not really much of an issue considering it leads to the landfill and nothing else?

warringtonontour says...
4:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12

"what about the dogs"

Casual Postman of Orford says...
4:55pm Wed 24 Oct 12

They must have emigrated from st Helen's to Risley! And why not they may get washed away by floods in skint Hellens!

risley says...
5:01pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Melonfish you have completely missed the point.
If 35 of us parked on the footpath near to the police station and blocked the footpath then i feel sure that we would be prosecuted yet theses travellers are not.
Are you advocating that it is okay for them to do this? Are you aware of the costs to clean up after them? Presumably you don't have this problem near you wherever you are?
However if you are indeed a council tax payer then you are equally being affected.

Sameoldsameold says...
6:13pm Wed 24 Oct 12

If people did not let them do jobs like gardening and guttering work , then there would not be a reason to stay, but as long people do this then they will keep returning, simples

Melonfish says...
6:20pm Wed 24 Oct 12

risley wrote:
Melonfish you have completely missed the point.
If 35 of us parked on the footpath near to the police station and blocked the footpath then i feel sure that we would be prosecuted yet theses travellers are not.
Are you advocating that it is okay for them to do this? Are you aware of the costs to clean up after them? Presumably you don't have this problem near you wherever you are?
However if you are indeed a council tax payer then you are equally being affected.
wait you want to prosecute them for blocking a road that is off the track and in no way a main arterial?
i actually live a stones throw from them, i am aware of the costs of cleaning up after them and the like but its not enough to just get irate and force them to move on, should we not be sorting out area's for them to at least try and settle and make a life or is it that warrington is still to snobby (in spite of the fighting and a cop getting beaten with a stilletto) to consider them desirable to have around. got get frothy mouthed at someone else man and instead of propagating the problem be constructive and help with a solution. its coming up to winter, its bloody cold in a van/caravan you know.

widnesman says...
6:47pm Wed 24 Oct 12

grappenhall boy wrote:
Maybe if the police asked the travellers to see the receipts or paid invoices for equipment ie generators,caravans,

if these cannot be provided remove the items until ownership can be proved.

If this policy were to implemented by the police I don't think we would see the travellers in the town again.

Just a thought
Spot on grappenhall boy.

If I remember correctly, a number of years ago, the police arrived on a local traveller site with a search warrant and a list of stolen items.
They moved like rats from a sinking ship!!

risley says...
7:02pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Melonfish wrote:
risley wrote: Melonfish you have completely missed the point. If 35 of us parked on the footpath near to the police station and blocked the footpath then i feel sure that we would be prosecuted yet theses travellers are not. Are you advocating that it is okay for them to do this? Are you aware of the costs to clean up after them? Presumably you don't have this problem near you wherever you are? However if you are indeed a council tax payer then you are equally being affected.
wait you want to prosecute them for blocking a road that is off the track and in no way a main arterial? i actually live a stones throw from them, i am aware of the costs of cleaning up after them and the like but its not enough to just get irate and force them to move on, should we not be sorting out area's for them to at least try and settle and make a life or is it that warrington is still to snobby (in spite of the fighting and a cop getting beaten with a stilletto) to consider them desirable to have around. got get frothy mouthed at someone else man and instead of propagating the problem be constructive and help with a solution. its coming up to winter, its bloody cold in a van/caravan you know.
Melonfish, I have tried to understand your post but your grammar is poor. Yes I do want them prosecuting as it is a highway.
Are you sure you are not actually on Silver Lane at the moment freezing in your caravan?
No I don't want them, they put nothing into our economy and are a financial burden.
They choose their life, I have to respect that, however I do not have to agree that they get away with breaking the law.

johnmav9 says...
7:23pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Send them back to country of origin oops sorry they cant get away with what they do over here jn thier own country

old-codger says...
7:36pm Wed 24 Oct 12

We have traveller sites around Warrington but they wont pay the fee,s. They wont pay anybody anything.

Years11 says...
7:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Well it seems like only Melonfish is the only one that wants them to stay..... Melon being the word there!

live_wire says...
7:55pm Wed 24 Oct 12

they all seem to have brand new cars/vans so they must have a fair bit of money. just pay the site fees and be done with it!

Cleopatra says...
6:45am Thu 25 Oct 12

johnmav9 wrote:
Send them back to country of origin oops sorry they cant get away with what they do over here jn thier own country
What country would that be john?

the dr who says...
7:46am Thu 25 Oct 12

Casual Postman of Orford wrote:
They must have emigrated from st Helen's to Risley! And why not they may get washed away by floods in skint Hellens!
where on earth do you get that stupid comment from? warrington has a town on its knees, even people who live here dont want to shop here they go to other towns as its rubbish.

do you read the guardian Warrington was flooded just as much.

Nick Tessla says...
9:42am Thu 25 Oct 12

Cleopatra wrote:
johnmav9 wrote: Send them back to country of origin oops sorry they cant get away with what they do over here jn thier own country
What country would that be john?
Well said Cleo - there are some who resort to kneejerk reactions - or just welcome the opportunity to bring such subjects as immigration into any discussion.



These people may be parasites but they are our parasites.

Freeborn John says...
1:56pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Cleopatra wrote:
johnmav9 wrote:
Send them back to country of origin oops sorry they cant get away with what they do over here jn thier own country
What country would that be john?
Since I had a chance to speak to some of these chaps as they very kindly offered to sell me cheap Chinese copies of proper tools at high prices I can confirm that these gentlemen are Irish.
Their vehicles also had Irish plates.
So that country would be the Republic of Ireland then.
Glad to help.

rayco8 says...
2:52pm Thu 25 Oct 12

they use birchwood because they have use of full facilities @ birchwood leasure centre where they all wash and use the toilet facilities

im a member and i hope they are paying for the use of these facilities as the place was full of them again last night?

i have my doubts as i recall past times when they were at winwick quay and used to climb in through the toilet windows at fordton leasure centre

Reader says...
8:09pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Melonfish said earlier that "get frothy mouthed at someone else man and instead of propagating the problem be constructive and help with a solution. its coming up to winter, its bloody cold in a van/caravan you know"..............

Melonfish, have you ever been in a caravan in winter especially newer ones like they have ? We've have and we've got friends who spend the whole of early Dec to end of Jan in their touring van with an awning up too and it's lovely and warm and cosy. No elec hook up or luxuries either just gas bottles and a generator. Don't feel sorry for the travellers Melonfish as the ones with the flashy cans and big cars especially have a great life and love living like they do which is why they do it. Why should we help them or feel sorry for them cos they don;t feel sorry for us and would hate to live like we do and who can blame them.

annie1275 says...
6:36pm Fri 26 Oct 12

Reader wrote:
Melonfish said earlier that "get frothy mouthed at someone else man and instead of propagating the problem be constructive and help with a solution. its coming up to winter, its bloody cold in a van/caravan you know"..............

Melonfish, have you ever been in a caravan in winter especially newer ones like they have ? We've have and we've got friends who spend the whole of early Dec to end of Jan in their touring van with an awning up too and it's lovely and warm and cosy. No elec hook up or luxuries either just gas bottles and a generator. Don't feel sorry for the travellers Melonfish as the ones with the flashy cans and big cars especially have a great life and love living like they do which is why they do it. Why should we help them or feel sorry for them cos they don;t feel sorry for us and would hate to live like we do and who can blame them.
bet they aren't worried about being cold this winter.

live_wire says...
6:44pm Sat 27 Oct 12

the travellers in question are now on woolston grange next to my work. they were trying the locks on a car in the carpark and when the owner moved his car to a safer place in front of the factory, the man got one of the younger travellers to take a sh*t on the doorstep of our workplace. this was at 3pm today. is this normal human behaviour??”

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