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UPDATED WITH PICTURES: Wolves bow out after breathtaking battle
6:28pm Saturday 10th May 2008
St Helens 40 Warrington Wolves 34.
WARRINGTON Wolves pushed St Helens to the wire in a pulsating Challenge Cup fifth round tie at sun-drenched Knowsley Road today.
Wolves overcame numerous unsettling incidents to give Saints, Challenge Cup winners for the last two years, the fright of their lives.
Saints, who had capitalised on some good fortune to pull away with three tries in five minutes to lead 40-24 going into the final 10 minutes, were desperately scrambling in defence in the closing moments after Wolves had opened them up in an all-out final push to force extra time.
With the clock counting down its final seconds, Kevin Penny, who had earlier added to his collection of spectacular tries and also gifted one to Saints by coughing up possession near his own line, forced a pass in a bid to keep the movement alive.
But Sean Long pounced as the ball ran loose with the final hooter sounding on the next tackle.
The drama began before the starting whistle even blew.
Wolves, who welcomed the return of Simon Grix after a three-month injury but were missing Rob Parker with a rib injury as well as suspended Jon Clarke and the longer term Chris Bridge, Paul Wood and Steve Pickersgill, lost the services of right centre Martin Gleeson in the warm-up.
Gleeson, suffering the effects of an overnight virus and ending up on a drip in the dressing rooms, was replaced by Paul Johnson, who had been named on the bench.
Travelling reserve Chris Riley was drafted on to the bench and his services were needed at full back after six minutes with Stuart Reardon leaving the field with a ruptured Achilles' tendon.
Both Riley and Johnson also left the field with ligament injuries later in the game, leaving Wolves with Ben Harrison at centre and Simon Grix on the wing at one stage.
Wolves overcame those early setbacks to take an 8-0 lead courtesy of a converted birthday try from skipper Adrian Morley and an additional penalty goal from Chris Hicks.
Wolves' first mistake was a forward pass from Mark Gleeson in the 20th minute and Saints' response was to fire the ball wide for Willie Talau to cross despite an ankle-tap tackle from scrambling Lee Briers.
A high tackle from Johnson on Francis Meli was then punished with Paul Wellens sending Chris Flannery over from 30 metres and Long's second conversion handed Saints a 12-8 lead with 24 minutes gone.
The end-to-end flow of the game continued with Briers' grubber forcing six more tackles and Johnson sucking in both Lee Gilmour and Meli before flipping out a pass for Chris Hicks to walk over from 10 metres in the 30th minute.
Hicks converted from wide out to put Wolves back in front 14-12 but the lead was short-lived.
A disputed knock on from Michael Monaghan just inside his own half paved the way for Saints' next score.
The ball was swept from right to left for Meli to use his strength to beat Riley by the corner post but the forward final pass from Wellens had been missed by the officials.
Long's touchline conversion took St Helens back down the tunnel with an 18-14 advantage.
Four minutes into the second half Wolves were back on level terms.
Johnson accepted a long flighted pass from Briers and somehow managed to free his ball-carrying hand behind the tackler and produce a reverse-flick pass for Hicks to storm clear for his second try, although Hicks was unable to convert from the touchline.
Saints regained a four-point lead in the 51st minute after a penalty for holding down, stretching Wolves on the left with Penny leaving himself too much to do to prevent Ade Gardner crossing in the corner from a Leon Pryce feed.
Then came Penny's try of the season contender, all started with a Long chip kick to the foot of Wolves' posts.
Monaghan snapped up the ball and passed over his own try line to Hicks, who had now replaced the injured Riley at full back.
Hicks galloped into a two-man tackle and had the strength to offload to unmarked Penny on his outside.
Penny stepped inside covering Long and acclerated away from the chasers before deceiving Meli, who had flew across from the opposite wing, with a shimmy just before diving over in the corner.
Hicks' touchline conversion put Wolves 24-22 in the ascendancy with 23 minutes to go.
Controversially, referee Richard Silverwood blew for a scrum from a Saints knock on in the 61st minute after Ben Westwood had retrieved the loose ball and was about to send Briers over the whitewash.
A Briers kick forced six more tackles from a drop out as Wolves attempted to turn the screw.
Wolves complained of a ball steal from Leon Pryce as Johnson lost possession heading through a crowd of players near the try line.
But as Johnson stayed on the ground with a knee ligament injury, which led to him going off, Silverwood allowed Saints to come away with the ball and then penalised Wolves for offside - the one and only offside decision in the entire 80 minutes.
Wolves quickly got rotating prop Harrison on the field to temporarily fill the hole in the right centre position left by Johnson but ruthless Saints spotted that Wolves were reorganising and attacked that channel, coming up trumps with Pryce dropping off an inside pass for Talau to touch down his second score and put Saints in front 28-24 with 11 minutes to go.
That was the first of three tries in five minutes that proved to swing the game for Saints.
Penny appeared to be caught by surprise by Gardner's tackle from behind on his own 10m line after collecting a kick and he surrendered possession into the hands of Matt Gidley who fed Paul Clough for the try.
Then a loose and forward pass from Bryn Hargreaves was snaffled up by Lee Gilmour who changed directions twice to beat Hicks and Harrison on a 50m run to the line in the 74th minute.
Saints thought the game was won but Wolves still sensed they could score three times in the remaining minutes and almost pulled it off, especially after Silverwood spotted his first Saints forward pass of the game in the 77th minute.
Westwood charged over from a Briers pass and Hicks converted to reduce the deficit to 10 points with two minutes plus injury time still to play.
Then rotating hooker Grix, usually a loose forward who was filling in on the wing, weaved his way to the line from a deflected pass from Vinnie Anderson and, although Hicks missed his conversion, only six points separated the sides with two minutes of injury time left to play.
Monaghan spotted Saints were short of numbers on their right for the final attack of the game but Penny's route to the line was blocked and his attempted offload hit a Saints defender's leg and was gratefully swallowed up by Long, leaving Wolves heartbroken at Knowsley Road again.
Saints, who have not lost in their last 23 games against Wolves including two eight-point victories in Super League this year, had ended Wolves' Challenge Cup hopes for a second successive year.
Saints: Paul Wellens; Ade Gardner (1t), Matt Gidley, Willie Talau (2t), Francis Meli (1t); Leon Pryce, Sean Long (6g); Jason Cayless, Keiron Cunningham, James Graham, Lee Gilmour (1t), Chris Flannery (1t), Jon Wilkin. Subs used: James Roby, Bryn Hargreaves, Paul Clough (1t), Maurie Fa'asavalu.
Wolves: Stuart Reardon; Chris Hicks (2t, 5g), Paul Johnson, Matt King, Kevin Penny (1t); Lee Briers, Michael Monaghan; Adrian Morley (1t), Mark Gleeson, Paul Rauhihi, Louis Anderson, Ben Westwood (1t), Vinnie Anderson. Subs used: Chris Riley, Simon Grix (1t), Andy Bracek, Ben Harrison.
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Snaggletooth, Warrington says...
7:51am Mon 12 May 08
Snaggletooth, Warrington says...
7:51am Mon 12 May 08
Snaggletooth, Warrington says...
7:51am Mon 12 May 08
Coops, Kinmel Bay says...
9:51pm Sun 11 May 08
Mick wrote:How when he admits we have a try from a forward pass. Just staing that the rule needs to be looked at. IMO video refs should not judge on this and the ref and touch judges should and the momentum rule and which way your hands are pointing should be scrapped and simplify the rule tosay if the ball goes forward from the point where it is passed then it's forward.
Haz wrote: Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Coops, Kinmel Bay says...
9:51pm Sun 11 May 08
Mick wrote:How when he admits we have a try from a forward pass. Just staing that the rule needs to be looked at. IMO video refs should not judge on this and the ref and touch judges should and the momentum rule and which way your hands are pointing should be scrapped and simplify the rule tosay if the ball goes forward from the point where it is passed then it's forward.
Haz wrote: Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Coops, Kinmel Bay says...
9:51pm Sun 11 May 08
Mick wrote:How when he admits we have a try from a forward pass. Just staing that the rule needs to be looked at. IMO video refs should not judge on this and the ref and touch judges should and the momentum rule and which way your hands are pointing should be scrapped and simplify the rule tosay if the ball goes forward from the point where it is passed then it's forward.
Haz wrote: Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Coops, Kinmel Bay says...
9:51pm Sun 11 May 08
Mick wrote:How when he admits we have a try from a forward pass. Just staing that the rule needs to be looked at. IMO video refs should not judge on this and the ref and touch judges should and the momentum rule and which way your hands are pointing should be scrapped and simplify the rule tosay if the ball goes forward from the point where it is passed then it's forward.
Haz wrote: Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
paul, warrington says...
9:47pm Sun 11 May 08
paul, warrington says...
9:47pm Sun 11 May 08
paul, warrington says...
9:47pm Sun 11 May 08
paul, warrington says...
9:47pm Sun 11 May 08
Mick, Birchwood says...
8:33pm Sun 11 May 08
Haz wrote:Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Mick, Birchwood says...
8:33pm Sun 11 May 08
Haz wrote:Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Mick, Birchwood says...
8:33pm Sun 11 May 08
Haz wrote:Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Mick, Birchwood says...
8:33pm Sun 11 May 08
Haz wrote:Sounds like sour grapes to me Haz
Well Done lads!! I can honestly say that i thought we may go and win it in the end. We were playing so well and we were pushing Saints back. We played as a team - a very good team. Every paper i have read have said that we deserved something from the match and i have even heard saints fans say that!!!! Penny's try was amazing - definitely a contender for try of the season and i think it was great skill from Monaghan. He could have easily gone down when he caught the ball (and i think reardon may have done if it was him), and if he had we would have had to kick back to saints, but he saw the opportunity and it paid off and we got 6 points. One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Haz, Callands says...
6:40pm Sun 11 May 08
One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Haz, Callands says...
6:40pm Sun 11 May 08
One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Haz, Callands says...
6:40pm Sun 11 May 08
One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
Haz, Callands says...
6:40pm Sun 11 May 08
One question... what is the point of having the forward pass rule and video refs if they cant look into a forward passes when creating a try??? Saints had 3 tries coming from forward passes and we had one. The decision to not let a video ref look into a forward pass in a try is ridiculous. Even the panel at the match yesterday said that it needs to be implemented to make the game fair. If that was allowed to be done then we would have won yesterday. Well done lads - you were fantastic and made us proud!!!
paul, st helens says...
2:18pm Sun 11 May 08
shedhead wrote:no pryce reefing the ball when 2 men in the tackle on there 5 metre line and then going our end of the field changed the game,can't believe french or davies didnt mention it....fantastic effort from start to finish
Janet, You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
paul, st helens says...
2:18pm Sun 11 May 08
shedhead wrote:no pryce reefing the ball when 2 men in the tackle on there 5 metre line and then going our end of the field changed the game,can't believe french or davies didnt mention it....fantastic effort from start to finish
Janet, You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
paul, st helens says...
2:18pm Sun 11 May 08
shedhead wrote:no pryce reefing the ball when 2 men in the tackle on there 5 metre line and then going our end of the field changed the game,can't believe french or davies didnt mention it....fantastic effort from start to finish
Janet, You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
paul, st helens says...
2:18pm Sun 11 May 08
shedhead wrote:no pryce reefing the ball when 2 men in the tackle on there 5 metre line and then going our end of the field changed the game,can't believe french or davies didnt mention it....fantastic effort from start to finish
Janet, You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
11:19am Sun 11 May 08
You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
11:19am Sun 11 May 08
You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
11:19am Sun 11 May 08
You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
11:19am Sun 11 May 08
You do not play with intensity and professionalism when you switch off for ten minutes, drop the ball with the line at your mercy ( Johnson twice though he had a great game) and drop the ball on your own line when we are on top (a la Penny). That is the difference between a good side and Saints Leeds etc,.Pennys blunder turned the game though we shouldnt blame him.
sandbach john, sandbach says...
10:36am Sun 11 May 08
sandbach john, sandbach says...
10:36am Sun 11 May 08
sandbach john, sandbach says...
10:36am Sun 11 May 08
sandbach john, sandbach says...
10:36am Sun 11 May 08
cinny brow wire, in the farm says...
10:20am Sun 11 May 08
cinny brow wire, in the farm says...
10:20am Sun 11 May 08
cinny brow wire, in the farm says...
10:20am Sun 11 May 08
cinny brow wire, in the farm says...
10:20am Sun 11 May 08
Janet, warrington says...
9:32am Sun 11 May 08
Coops wrote:We made Saints fight for that win today, so intensity, professionalism and determination were clearly there for all to see. Not the walk over many expected it to be either. Watch out Super League....here we come!
Mick wrote: What it came down to was that Warrington havent got the intensity, professionalism, or attitude to match Leeds or Saints for eighty minutes. Agree with what they are all saying about PC on here though. How long can he hold you back before you're chairman stops dithering and appoints another coach. Have to say however, that coaching faults wreren't the reason today it was sheer sloppyness and lack of intensity and all the big sides have that intensity when it's needed..That's where warrinton fall short. They can hold their heads up high today though they were awesome for short bursts and pushed us all the way. Well done!!!! Come on you Stains !!!!!!Get over yourself Mick today we showed that we do have the intensity to match Saints for 80 minutes hence why right untill the final hooter the result was in doubt. Listen to the interviews with the Saints players and Anderson after the game they all thought we could still win.
Janet, warrington says...
9:32am Sun 11 May 08
Coops wrote:We made Saints fight for that win today, so intensity, professionalism and determination were clearly there for all to see. Not the walk over many expected it to be either. Watch out Super League....here we come!
Mick wrote: What it came down to was that Warrington havent got the intensity, professionalism, or attitude to match Leeds or Saints for eighty minutes. Agree with what they are all saying about PC on here though. How long can he hold you back before you're chairman stops dithering and appoints another coach. Have to say however, that coaching faults wreren't the reason today it was sheer sloppyness and lack of intensity and all the big sides have that intensity when it's needed..That's where warrinton fall short. They can hold their heads up high today though they were awesome for short bursts and pushed us all the way. Well done!!!! Come on you Stains !!!!!!Get over yourself Mick today we showed that we do have the intensity to match Saints for 80 minutes hence why right untill the final hooter the result was in doubt. Listen to the interviews with the Saints players and Anderson after the game they all thought we could still win.
Janet, warrington says...
9:32am Sun 11 May 08
Coops wrote:We made Saints fight for that win today, so intensity, professionalism and determination were clearly there for all to see. Not the walk over many expected it to be either. Watch out Super League....here we come!
Mick wrote: What it came down to was that Warrington havent got the intensity, professionalism, or attitude to match Leeds or Saints for eighty minutes. Agree with what they are all saying about PC on here though. How long can he hold you back before you're chairman stops dithering and appoints another coach. Have to say however, that coaching faults wreren't the reason today it was sheer sloppyness and lack of intensity and all the big sides have that intensity when it's needed..That's where warrinton fall short. They can hold their heads up high today though they were awesome for short bursts and pushed us all the way. Well done!!!! Come on you Stains !!!!!!Get over yourself Mick today we showed that we do have the intensity to match Saints for 80 minutes hence why right untill the final hooter the result was in doubt. Listen to the interviews with the Saints players and Anderson after the game they all thought we could still win.
Janet, warrington says...
9:32am Sun 11 May 08
Coops wrote:We made Saints fight for that win today, so intensity, professionalism and determination were clearly there for all to see. Not the walk over many expected it to be either. Watch out Super League....here we come!
Mick wrote: What it came down to was that Warrington havent got the intensity, professionalism, or attitude to match Leeds or Saints for eighty minutes. Agree with what they are all saying about PC on here though. How long can he hold you back before you're chairman stops dithering and appoints another coach. Have to say however, that coaching faults wreren't the reason today it was sheer sloppyness and lack of intensity and all the big sides have that intensity when it's needed..That's where warrinton fall short. They can hold their heads up high today though they were awesome for short bursts and pushed us all the way. Well done!!!! Come on you Stains !!!!!!Get over yourself Mick today we showed that we do have the intensity to match Saints for 80 minutes hence why right untill the final hooter the result was in doubt. Listen to the interviews with the Saints players and Anderson after the game they all thought we could still win.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
9:21am Sun 11 May 08
We had 75% of the game but still managed to concede 40 points.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
9:21am Sun 11 May 08
We had 75% of the game but still managed to concede 40 points.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
9:21am Sun 11 May 08
We had 75% of the game but still managed to concede 40 points.
shedhead, Runcorn says...
9:21am Sun 11 May 08
We had 75% of the game but still managed to concede 40 points.
stubblesteve, woolston says...
12:35am Sun 11 May 08
Dan Of The Wire wrote:nothing to do with running out of ideas, to do wih losing mt glees and parker before game and losing reardon,riley,johnso
Have to agree about all the comments ,well done to the lads on that field and until his injury Jono was far our best player, Im trying not to be negative but how far can our current coach take this team?? With all the rumours of unrest in the camp what we now need is a coach that can stop all this. I know its bad to say this after a fine display today I think this was are only chance of silverware this season. How many teams outside the top two have won the grand final? PC has run out of new and fresh ideas, we need someone that can in the last quarter of a game can do something to turn it around and Im affraid PC is not the man.
n during game, this was a good effort from 1 to 17, well done lads keep it up for the rest of the season.
stubblesteve, woolston says...
12:35am Sun 11 May 08
Dan Of The Wire wrote:nothing to do with running out of ideas, to do wih losing mt glees and parker before game and losing reardon,riley,johnso
Have to agree about all the comments ,well done to the lads on that field and until his injury Jono was far our best player, Im trying not to be negative but how far can our current coach take this team?? With all the rumours of unrest in the camp what we now need is a coach that can stop all this. I know its bad to say this after a fine display today I think this was are only chance of silverware this season. How many teams outside the top two have won the grand final? PC has run out of new and fresh ideas, we need someone that can in the last quarter of a game can do something to turn it around and Im affraid PC is not the man.
n during game, this was a good effort from 1 to 17, well done lads keep it up for the rest of the season.
stubblesteve, woolston says...
12:35am Sun 11 May 08
Dan Of The Wire wrote:nothing to do with running out of ideas, to do wih losing mt glees and parker before game and losing reardon,riley,johnso
Have to agree about all the comments ,well done to the lads on that field and until his injury Jono was far our best player, Im trying not to be negative but how far can our current coach take this team?? With all the rumours of unrest in the camp what we now need is a coach that can stop all this. I know its bad to say this after a fine display today I think this was are only chance of silverware this season. How many teams outside the top two have won the grand final? PC has run out of new and fresh ideas, we need someone that can in the last quarter of a game can do something to turn it around and Im affraid PC is not the man.
n during game, this was a good effort from 1 to 17, well done lads keep it up for the rest of the season.
stubblesteve, woolston says...
12:35am Sun 11 May 08
Dan Of The Wire wrote:
Have to agree about all the comments ,well done to the lads on that field and until his injury Jono was far our best p
Snaggletooth, Warrington says...
7:51am Mon 12 May 08