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As it happened: Public sector strike

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  • Bin collections were cancelled today in Warrington
  • Dozens of schools closed
  • Many council buildings shut
  • Firefighters also joined walkout
  • Action over pay, pensions and working conditions

12:49pm

I'm afraid that is it from our live blog today. Keep checking our website for more coverage of today's walkout

Also, pick up a copy of next week's Warrington Guardian to get a full round up of the strike action. 

Thanks for sticking with us. 

12:42pm

Wondering what the #j10 tagline was on Twitter for strike posts?

It refers to today being July 10 and it being used by all unions involved in the action

12:18pm

More than one million workers are estimated to have gone on strike today across the country, it has been reported.

Are you one of them? Let us know below or tweet @warringtonnews. 

12:13pm

 

Schools fine parents for taking kids out of school for the day unless it's for an appointment. It's time the parents fined the schools for an unauthorised day off! The emergency services haven't had a pay rise in years but they don't keep striking.

Lisa Angel

12:11pm

Here are some of our Facebook comments posted about the strike.

The right to strike was fought hard for. What else can they do when the Government will not enter into meaningful dialogue?

Stuart Wilson

12:05pm

12:05pm

12:04pm

Workers across the town are strking over pay, pensions and workloads. 

Warrington Guardian:

11:59am

 

"It is a massive decision by local government and school support workers to sacrifice a day’s pay by going on strike, but today they are saying enough is enough. “It is a scandal that people who educate and support children in schools, maintain crucial local services, keep our communities clean and safe places to live and protect the homeless and vulnerable, are not paid at least the Living Wage. “We are calling on the Local Government Employers to come back to the table and settle this dispute. Politicians from all parties have been talking about the need to end low pay and introduce the Living Wage, and they must get their own house in order first.”

UNISON General Secretary, Dave Prentis,

11:31am

11:28am

11:18am Thu 10 Jul 14

WorkingMum66 says

I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Here Here!

I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.

11:14am

For more information on what services have closed today in the town, click here

11:11am

11:06am

10:55am Thu 10 Jul 14

WTONSkeptic says

Looking around the offices and nearly everyone is in work....where are the thousands that are on strike, is there even thousands in the unions?

Commentators, don't assume everyone supports this action, the majority done

11:06am

Workers at the Orford Youth Base have been busy this morning.

As a result of the strike action the base has been forced to close its doors for the day. 

Warrington Guardian:

10:56am

Sandra Porter (centre) has also decided to take industrial action.

"I just can't live off the one per cent pay rise they are offering," she said. 

"People say our pensions are fantastic but I have been working here for 13 years and my pension is not fantastic.

"Morale is just really low in the office."

Warrington Guardian:

10:51am

Workers at the Woolston Depot also took strike action today. 

Warrington Guardian:

10:47am

Unison members stand strong outside the Town Hall.

Warrington Guardian:

10:47am

10:34am

Don't forget to let us know your views on the strike action.

Comment below or tweet us @warringtonnews. 

10:21am

Unison branch secretary Jason Horan added: "We asked the question to the council about what they had budgeted for the pay rise and we were told they had only budgeted for a one per cent pay rise.

"But last year they gave senior managers up to a 15 per cent pay rise in Warrington."

10:11am

And why not take part in our ballot?

Do you agree with today's strike action?

Opinion is certainly divided 

10:10am

Unison branch secretary Jason Horan said the union has seen a lot more support than was anticipated with many more services forced to close.

10:10am

And Cheshire Fire Service have helpfully published a list of tips for residents to stay safe during the action.

For those tips, click here

10:08am

The Cheshire Fire action is taking place between 10am and 7pm tonight.

It is part of an ongoing dispute between the Fire Brigade Union and the Government over cuts to pensions

Warrington Guardian: VIDEO: Warning ahead of firefighter strike

10:08am

Unite rep Matthew Anderson, who is a refuge collector, said: "Unfortunately strike action is the only way we can get through to the Government that enough is not enough.

"If we don't take a stand now who knows what it will be like further down the line."

9:54am

We have now arrived at the Woolston Depot picket line.

9:54am

Bob Allen added: "Today is not just about protecting jobs and pay cuts.

"It's about defending what we see as a vital service for young people."

The Orford Youth Base is currently undergoing a restructuring process which is expected to result in a number of job losses.

Bob says this will cause serious consequences for young people in the town.

9:51am

Many youngsters will have an unexpected day off school due to the teacher strike. 

Send us your tips for keeping little ones entertained and we will include our favourites online later.

Warrington Guardian: Teacher strike – school closures revealed

9:49am

We have just arrived at the picket line at the Orford Youth Base.

Marta Bober, whose dad was involved with the union Solidarity in Poland said: "He told me he was proud of me for going out on strike.

"He always believed you should always stand up for what you believe in.

"This is what I was brought up to believe - to fight for what you think is right."

Warrington Guardian:

9:33am

We have been told that 90 per cent of workers at the Pension Centre near to the Town Hall have walked out today.  

There are 500 employees who work at the centre.

9:30am

Peter Rowe, from Oakwood, is out supporting the strike today and his colleagues who face the threat of Government cuts.

The 60-year-old said today is about shining a light on the 'bigger picture'.

"People work full time but they are still in debt because of the low pay.

"When the people who should be paying the price are not and they are the people who caused the problems in the first place."

9:23am

Staff at Orford Youth Base tweeted us this picture of their picket this morning.

Let us know if you are out on strike today.

Warrington Guardian:

9:22am

9:20am Thu 10 Jul 14

HappyMisery says

A systematic annual increase on tax and a reduction in services across the land. Where do the public sector workers expect this money to come from? Residents in Warrington already get reduced services and nothing that offers value for money, yet the employees want more? I'm surprised they get any support tbh.

9:11am

We will be out and about today talking to those who decided to take strike action. 

Elaine Forrest, member of Unison, works at the Town Hall in the print room and is out on strike today.

The 55-year-old from Cinnamon Brow said: "We have gone on strike because of the austerity measures and the 1 per cent pay rise which is in effect another pay cut and this has been year on year.

"The council say they can't afford to pay it but they have built money in reserves that is there to be used and they are not using it.

"People are scared to go out on strike so for people to come out shows a lot. It's not easy for people to make that decision."

 

 

9:04am

8:52am Thu 10 Jul 14

Warrington Wife says

Maybe if more non public service workers went on strike there would be more support. Construction workers have had it the most raw of late as well as warehouse staff, no pay rises for years, terrible pensions and more and more temporary positions coming into play.

The problem is the terms of employment aren't fair in the majority of jobs as companies cut costs and corners.

Maybe if we make more of a united stand as a country things will change, otherwise we will see more low wages, no pensions, no NHS, even more foreign workers and more zero hour contracts. Come on Britain lets speak up, France never back down why should we!!!

9:03am

If you do have lots of rubbish, the council says its three recycling tips are still open.

So Gatewarth, Woolston and Stockton Heath, Sandy Lane are accepting waste today

8:53am

8:52am

8:48am

8:48am

Several unions will be taking part in the strike today.

This includes members from the Fire Brigades Union, Public and Commercial Services union, GMB, Unison, Unite and the National Union of Teachers.

The strike is poised to be the biggest co-ordinated public-sector strike in years.

8:47am

8:43am Thu 10 Jul 14

I_don't_believe_it says

Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!

8:45am

Overflowing bins could also be on the cards for some residents in Warrington after the council confirmed that bins will not be collected today.

Black bins will instead be collected from Tuesday and the collection of blue and green bins will be suspended until the next scheduled collection on Thursday, July 24.

8:44am

 

Teachers only ever take strike action as a last resort. We deeply regret disruption to pupils and parents. We are in dispute with the Government about pay, pensions and workload. The massive increase in teachers’ workload since 2010 is not time spent on preparing exciting lessons for your children, but on form-filling.

Beth Purnell, division secretary for the NUT in Warrington

8:41am

Thousands of workers in the town are expected to take industrial action over a long-running row over pay, pensions and workloads. 

It has also been confirmed by the council that some adult social care day services will not be running today as a result of the strike.

Many schools will also see lessons disrupted with partial closures announced across the town.

8:39am

A number of services are expected to grind to a halt as council staff, health workers, teachers, civil servants and firefighters stage a mass walkout today.

The customer Contact Centre on Horsemarket Street, Orford Youth Base and the Youth Café have all closed. 

8:35am

We want hear from you. Are you taking part in the public sector strike or have you been affected?

Let us know in the comment box below or tweet us @warringtonnews. 

8:33am

Speaking yesterday about the strike action, the manager of Emergency Childcare, the nationwide emergency childcare service provider, has said the company has already seen a 70 per cent rise in the number of bookings compared to an average Thursday.


Andy Major, operations manager, said: “During the strike in March we ended up experiencing a 110 per cent rise in bookings by the end of the day and we anticipate tomorrow to be similar."

8:32am

8:31am

Need something to entertain the kids with?

Great Sankey Leisure Centre has been open since 8am this morning, LiveWire has announced

8:31am

To check out the full list of schools that have been affected by the strike, click here

8:30am

Also off today - the bin collections.

If you were due for your black bin to be emptied, council bosses say the service will catch up from Tuesday next week.

If it was blue or green, you will get a collection next Thursday as normal

Warrington Guardian: MP calls on bin charge re-think

8:28am

We want you to get involved this morning.

You can add your comments at the bottom of the page, tweet us @warringtonnews or comment on Facebook.

Do you agree with the action?

Are you taking part?

Or do have you been left in the lurch by today?

8:18am

So around 25 schools are closed across Warrington today.

More are subject to partial closures. And some have just teaching staff in.

It is members with the NUT union who are taking part in the action

8:10am

Morning all.

Found it easy on the roads driving to work?

Wonder why nobody else down your street has put the bin out?

Well today sees the biggest public sector strike since the last election.

Council services, schools will all be hit and firefighters are due to join the action too.

We will be at picket lines across Warrington getting the feeling and reporting on what is or is not open

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8:43am Thu 10 Jul 14

I_don't_believe_it says...

Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!! I_don't_believe_it
  • Score: 5

8:52am Thu 10 Jul 14

Warrington Wife says...

Maybe if more non public service workers went on strike there would be more support. Construction workers have had it the most raw of late as well as warehouse staff, no pay rises for years, terrible pensions and more and more temporary positions coming into play.

The problem is the terms of employment aren't fair in the majority of jobs as companies cut costs and corners.

Maybe if we make more of a united stand as a country things will change, otherwise we will see more low wages, no pensions, no NHS, even more foreign workers and more zero hour contracts. Come on Britain lets speak up, France never back down why should we!!!
Maybe if more non public service workers went on strike there would be more support. Construction workers have had it the most raw of late as well as warehouse staff, no pay rises for years, terrible pensions and more and more temporary positions coming into play. The problem is the terms of employment aren't fair in the majority of jobs as companies cut costs and corners. Maybe if we make more of a united stand as a country things will change, otherwise we will see more low wages, no pensions, no NHS, even more foreign workers and more zero hour contracts. Come on Britain lets speak up, France never back down why should we!!! Warrington Wife
  • Score: 13

9:20am Thu 10 Jul 14

HappyMisery says...

A systematic annual increase on tax and a reduction in services across the land. Where do the public sector workers expect this money to come from? Residents in Warrington already get reduced services and nothing that offers value for money, yet the employees want more? I'm surprised they get any support tbh.
A systematic annual increase on tax and a reduction in services across the land. Where do the public sector workers expect this money to come from? Residents in Warrington already get reduced services and nothing that offers value for money, yet the employees want more? I'm surprised they get any support tbh. HappyMisery
  • Score: 6

10:55am Thu 10 Jul 14

WTONSkeptic says...

Looking around the offices and nearly everyone is in work....where are the thousands that are on strike, is there even thousands in the unions?

Commentators, don't assume everyone supports this action, the majority done
Looking around the offices and nearly everyone is in work....where are the thousands that are on strike, is there even thousands in the unions? Commentators, don't assume everyone supports this action, the majority done WTONSkeptic
  • Score: -2

11:18am Thu 10 Jul 14

WorkingMum66 says...

I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Here Here!

I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.
[quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]Here Here! I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings. WorkingMum66
  • Score: 1

1:04pm Thu 10 Jul 14

WTONSkeptic says...

WorkingMum66 wrote:
I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
Here Here!

I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.
Its not all civil servants, its actually a minority of them.... no matter what is being reported, most WBC staff are in work today
[quote][p][bold]WorkingMum66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]Here Here! I am sick of all the civil servants making demands on all tax payers for more more more (pay, pensions, terms etc) and holding the country to ransom. Having had a number of years experience of working in the public sector, I could not believe the work ethic, sickness absence rate and general attitude from the workers asif everyone else owes them a living and "woe is me". They truly do not realise how lucky they are. If you entered the private sector and the "real world" you'd soon see things very differently... count your blessings.[/p][/quote]Its not all civil servants, its actually a minority of them.... no matter what is being reported, most WBC staff are in work today WTONSkeptic
  • Score: -1

2:38pm Thu 10 Jul 14

WInwick Pig says...

An open apology to everyone who is on strike today and manning picket lines.

Due to the amazing lack of traffic on the road, ease of getting in to work and minimal jams at major junctions today as well as not having to navigate around cumbersome rubbish trucks, I was probably driving too fast to see all of you wasting such a lovely day in the sunshine standing with your flimsy placards.

I just did not have time to 'honk' sorry ;-)

Your attempt to completely inconvenience me with prehistoric actions has done quite the opposite and I am looking forward to getting home early so I can take my son to the park for a kick about!

I'm sorry, but thank you

Oink:@)
An open apology to everyone who is on strike today and manning picket lines. Due to the amazing lack of traffic on the road, ease of getting in to work and minimal jams at major junctions today as well as not having to navigate around cumbersome rubbish trucks, I was probably driving too fast to see all of you wasting such a lovely day in the sunshine standing with your flimsy placards. I just did not have time to 'honk' sorry ;-) Your attempt to completely inconvenience me with prehistoric actions has done quite the opposite and I am looking forward to getting home early so I can take my son to the park for a kick about! I'm sorry, but thank you Oink:@) WInwick Pig
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Thu 10 Jul 14

ChristoB says...

i wonder just how many of those on strike actually want to be and how many are out because the left wing union bully boys have instructed them they will strike - or else. Bullying an coercion does happen in unions. These people just want Labour back in power so they can have a free for all and re-wreck the economy.
i wonder just how many of those on strike actually want to be and how many are out because the left wing union bully boys have instructed them they will strike - or else. Bullying an coercion does happen in unions. These people just want Labour back in power so they can have a free for all and re-wreck the economy. ChristoB
  • Score: -1

6:18pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Kelli_Marie says...

I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!!
[quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!! Kelli_Marie
  • Score: 9

9:04pm Thu 10 Jul 14

roadrunner says...

...They do say ignorance is bliss, and looking at the comments on here, I would also class them as embarrassing.
I work as a firefighter and just for the record I, and my colleagues are taking strike action to gain nothing.....thats right.....to gain absolutely nothing. As it has been so fantastically written above, we knew what we were signing up to......and that is why we are striking.....just to keep what we signed up for......absolutely nothing else.....to keep the pension that we signed up for....we are asking for an increase of nothing, zero, zilch.
As for undertaking a hard days work, I challenge any of you key board warriors to come and complete a tour of duty with me and my colleagues.....you will find out very very quickly that we work hard to proudly serve you the very people who bad mouth us for fighting just to keep what  we signed up for.
We deal with things that would have people like you crying for your mothers......we strive to educate and protect our communities, to prevent emergencies, and when that is not enough,  respond to save lives, property and pick up the pieces.
So before you saddle up you high horse, get your facts right, and take a second to think about the people in the public sector who are here to proudly serve you the public. We dont ask for much,  but a little respect,  fair pay and pensions,  and a stop to the cuts that will mean the people we proudly serve receiving a lesser service,  is not much to ask.....is it...?
...They do say ignorance is bliss, and looking at the comments on here, I would also class them as embarrassing. I work as a firefighter and just for the record I, and my colleagues are taking strike action to gain nothing.....thats right.....to gain absolutely nothing. As it has been so fantastically written above, we knew what we were signing up to......and that is why we are striking.....just to keep what we signed up for......absolutely nothing else.....to keep the pension that we signed up for....we are asking for an increase of nothing, zero, zilch. As for undertaking a hard days work, I challenge any of you key board warriors to come and complete a tour of duty with me and my colleagues.....you will find out very very quickly that we work hard to proudly serve you the very people who bad mouth us for fighting just to keep what  we signed up for. We deal with things that would have people like you crying for your mothers......we strive to educate and protect our communities, to prevent emergencies, and when that is not enough,  respond to save lives, property and pick up the pieces. So before you saddle up you high horse, get your facts right, and take a second to think about the people in the public sector who are here to proudly serve you the public. We dont ask for much,  but a little respect,  fair pay and pensions,  and a stop to the cuts that will mean the people we proudly serve receiving a lesser service,  is not much to ask.....is it...? roadrunner
  • Score: 14

12:47am Fri 11 Jul 14

chrishahar says...

I think a quote from Fight Club suits this comment thread perfectly well. "Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. Don't f*** with us.

Some may not necessarily suit the cause, but you get the essence.

That is all.
I think a quote from Fight Club suits this comment thread perfectly well. "Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. Don't f*** with us. Some may not necessarily suit the cause, but you get the essence. That is all. chrishahar
  • Score: 6

8:16am Fri 11 Jul 14

richiepooh says...

Kelli_Marie wrote:
I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!!
I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community.
Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG
[quote][p][bold]Kelli_Marie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!![/p][/quote]I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community. Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG richiepooh
  • Score: -8

10:02am Fri 11 Jul 14

Kelli_Marie says...

richiepooh wrote:
Kelli_Marie wrote:
I_don't_believe_it wrote:
Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't.

It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector.

Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day.

Pathetic!!!
I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!!
I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community.
Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG
As this comment clearly demonstrates a lot of the the negative comments left on this post are by small minded people that are unaware of the facts! Like I said in my previous post I have worked for the council for 6 years and I started on 12k a year I am now on 17k that did not happen in a pay raise but through working very hard to move up in my service, that's far from the £22k you state we get as a minimum! I am contacted to work 37 hours a week in fact I work on average 44 hours a week going above any beyond to keep people in this community safe and help improve there life quality!
Children will learn if they choose to no matter how hard teaching staff work not all young people will achieve there best due to own choosing, that stems from parenting not schools!
As for unskilled and cushy jobs, again shows the lack of knowledge you have in regards to your local service people, are jobs are far from cushy most of us work year to year on temporary contacts, and I would challenging any of you to come and spend a day in our jobs, working with vulnerable people out in the community and there homes, getting abuse daily in schools from young people, and saving life's putting out fires in your homes and then tell me again that we are unskilled!!!
[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kelli_Marie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I_don't_believe_it[/bold] wrote: Once again, those that are handsomely paid for the little effort they make on a daily basis think they have the right to disrupt the lives of others - Newsflash people, you don't. It really is quite simple, if you don't like the terms of your employment go and get a job where you are happy, preferably one where you don't have the ability to interfere with others, perhaps in the private sector. Oh wait, you won't do that as you know your self serving antics and "bare minimum" work ethic would see you down the job centre before the end of your first day. Pathetic!!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that this is the reaction from some of the public! I think before you leave comments like this you should maybe read up on what it is we are actually fighting for! No we are not paid handsomely at all, maybe the ones at the top sitting in the big offices not doing much work who are getting the 13% pay raises are paid handsomely! But us the front line workers who are the people out in the community, making sure your children are safe and educated, supporting the mentally ill and the people in our town who are most vulnerable that work hours over there contracted hours and receive no extra money for doing this! I have worked for WBC for the last 6 years and I earn below the national living wage, I don't pay into the pension because I can't afford to!! The 1% offer is a joke!![/p][/quote]I think before taking action asking for public support you shouldsee if we support you...WE DON'T because of all the reasons by ALL the other comments on here. YOU ARE PAID HANDSOMELY, most of you are unskilled, find and most across all services are paid a minimum of £22k with a pension with an average of £25k, and higher echelons £40k+. unskilled that aren't ripping off the tax payer in private earn HALF that NO PENSION and if they worked as little as you lot, would get sacked. DOn't use the word community, youre not entitled, you are not a part of it you are leaches on the needs of the community. Kids safe and educated..FAIL year on year you push them out barely able to read, teachers have one job, thats all they are intrested in, its not educating our kids, its passing their own OFSTED report and ticking quota boxes so they can keep in their cushy self serving jobs, nothing else matters to them. supporting mentally ill? FAIL again 1st hand experience, you make home visits and nod, tick boxes to say you have been, do not listen, do not act. overtime...we all work overtime, except normal peoples overtime is for less money than your normal hourly rate even if they are on time and a half/double, anyone on larger skilled pay in private are salaried so they don't get overtime either, so your on a loser there. 1% has been the average annual pay rise across the UK for the past 10 years...its lower than inflation, that's why its called RECESSION. WAKE UP! you have no supporters because you are WRONG[/p][/quote]As this comment clearly demonstrates a lot of the the negative comments left on this post are by small minded people that are unaware of the facts! Like I said in my previous post I have worked for the council for 6 years and I started on 12k a year I am now on 17k that did not happen in a pay raise but through working very hard to move up in my service, that's far from the £22k you state we get as a minimum! I am contacted to work 37 hours a week in fact I work on average 44 hours a week going above any beyond to keep people in this community safe and help improve there life quality! Children will learn if they choose to no matter how hard teaching staff work not all young people will achieve there best due to own choosing, that stems from parenting not schools! As for unskilled and cushy jobs, again shows the lack of knowledge you have in regards to your local service people, are jobs are far from cushy most of us work year to year on temporary contacts, and I would challenging any of you to come and spend a day in our jobs, working with vulnerable people out in the community and there homes, getting abuse daily in schools from young people, and saving life's putting out fires in your homes and then tell me again that we are unskilled!!! Kelli_Marie
  • Score: 13
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